Canon Elura 100
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The Canon Elura 100 offers 16:9-widescreen video capture that doesn't skimp on coverage like other camcorders. The Elura 100 uses the entire width of the camera's sensor to create a larger field of view for your home videos. The simple "Widescreen" button switches easily from the widescreen 16:9 to a 4:3 aspect ratio (like the picture on a standard television). This Mini DV digital camcorder offers superb quality and high-resolution videos.
Specifications
- 1.3 megapixels
- 20x optical zoom
- auto and manual focus
- image stabilization
- 2.7 inch LCD
- 13.1 oz.
- Mini DV storage
Canon Elura 100 Comments & Questions (write your own!)
does motor make noise (CJ — 09/28/2006)
I've read that the motor can make noise which is picked up while recording.
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L (10/29/2006)
I bought a Elura 100 this past August. The motor makes a significantly loud whine. I returned it to the Canon Service Center. After a couple of weeks, it was sent back to me saying that my machine sounded like the others. My next step is to go back to the store, B&H, in Manhattan where I bought it. I am not a "happy camper".
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by James DeRuvo (08/08/2007)
Some will argue that due to the design, that the Elura can record noise from it's mechanisms being so close to the microphone. My research suggests that this may or may not be a design flaw as many just don't get the noise issue on their videos while some complain they do. I'm not convinced it's a design wide issue and may be due to faulty individual units that need to be repaired or replaced.
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mini dv or dvd - which one is better in terms of image quality (gopvenu — 09/29/2006)
this qtn is wrt to camcorders??
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RichSmith (09/29/2006)
MiniDV. No comparison. Cameras record to DVD by compressing the data via the mpeg2 codec, which just isn't up to par for top rate image quality.
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by James DeRuvo (08/08/2007)
If you want to shoot video and then edit it to take out wasted scenes, add titles and music, etc., you're taking a hit in video quality by shooting native with a DVD camera ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). This is because the video on DVDs is encoded to MPEG2, a compressed format. It's great as an end of the line format, but not for shooting source footage. Likewise, hard drive based camcorders ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ), while convenient, tend to record in MPEG2 (only JVC gives you an option to record in AVI). This gives you the same problem. Additionally, you will also have to "re-encode" (also called demuxing) the footage into an editable format. It's a hassle for those of us who wish to edit our videos as a hobby.
However, for DVDs, you'll need to take that DVD and "rip" it to your PC and then encode it into a more editible format. I recommend DVD Decrypter or DVD Shrink. They will get your footage off the dvd and onto your PC. You can then use something like Videoera (PC) or Handbrake (Mac) to encode it to a more editable format. Depending on what editing software you use, you may be able to import mpeg2 and even VOB files directly. But understand that you're already starting with compressed footage, so the resolution quality will not be as good as if you had shot native with MiniDV tape and captured to your PC.
Oppositely, miniDV cameras ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) are much more robust. Cameras like the Elura 100 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) are much better in format because once you've captured, edited and then burned to DVD, you aren't recompressing already compressed footage, like using the DVD camera would force you into.
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However, for DVDs, you'll need to take that DVD and "rip" it to your PC and then encode it into a more editible format. I recommend DVD Decrypter or DVD Shrink. They will get your footage off the dvd and onto your PC. You can then use something like Videoera (PC) or Handbrake (Mac) to encode it to a more editable format. Depending on what editing software you use, you may be able to import mpeg2 and even VOB files directly. But understand that you're already starting with compressed footage, so the resolution quality will not be as good as if you had shot native with MiniDV tape and captured to your PC.
Oppositely, miniDV cameras ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) are much more robust. Cameras like the Elura 100 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) are much better in format because once you've captured, edited and then burned to DVD, you aren't recompressing already compressed footage, like using the DVD camera would force you into.
does the Canon ZR 60 record VHS to DVD? (Larry — 09/29/2006)
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tharrison (10/03/2006)
Neither -- the ZR60 records to a spacial tape format called MiniDV. It is smaller than a VHS tape and unlike VHS, the signal recorded is digital, and, amongst other things, this makes it a little easier to edit and transfer the recording to whatever media (DVD, VHS, movie file, etc.) that you want to. But the original picture is recorded on a MiniDV tape cassette.
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by James DeRuvo (08/08/2007)
If you want to shoot video and then edit it to take out wasted scenes, add titles and music, etc., you're taking a hit in video quality by shooting native with a DVD camera ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). This is because the video on DVDs is encoded to MPEG2, a compressed format. It's great as an end of the line format, but not for shooting source footage. Likewise, hard drive based camcorders ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ), while convenient, tend to record in MPEG2 (only JVC gives you an option to record in AVI). This gives you the same problem. Additionally, you will also have to "re-encode" (also called demuxing) the footage into an editable format. It's a hassle for those of us who wish to edit our videos as a hobby.
However, for DVDs, you'll need to take that DVD and "rip" it to your PC and then encode it into a more editible format. I recommend DVD Decrypter or DVD Shrink. They will get your footage off the dvd and onto your PC. You can then use something like Videoera (PC) or Handbrake (Mac) to encode it to a more editable format. Depending on what editing software you use, you may be able to import mpeg2 and even VOB files directly. But understand that you're already starting with compressed footage, so the resolution quality will not be as good as if you had shot native with MiniDV tape and captured to your PC.
Oppositely, miniDV cameras ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) are much more robust. Cameras like the Elura 100 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) are much better in format because once you've captured, edited and then burned to DVD, you aren't recompressing already compressed footage, like using the DVD camera would force you into.
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However, for DVDs, you'll need to take that DVD and "rip" it to your PC and then encode it into a more editible format. I recommend DVD Decrypter or DVD Shrink. They will get your footage off the dvd and onto your PC. You can then use something like Videoera (PC) or Handbrake (Mac) to encode it to a more editable format. Depending on what editing software you use, you may be able to import mpeg2 and even VOB files directly. But understand that you're already starting with compressed footage, so the resolution quality will not be as good as if you had shot native with MiniDV tape and captured to your PC.
Oppositely, miniDV cameras ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) are much more robust. Cameras like the Elura 100 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) are much better in format because once you've captured, edited and then burned to DVD, you aren't recompressing already compressed footage, like using the DVD camera would force you into.
what is the best camcorder for shooting athletic events? (Bob — 10/03/2006)
I am looking for an inexpensive camcorder to shoot game film of football, soccer and other events with lots of movement and varying light situations. Since I'll be shooting in all kinds of weather conditions and at night under lights I would appreciate all info from those who have had a similiar experience.
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David Parker (11/21/2006)
Sorry you haven't received an answer yet. I suggest you re-submit - more people will see your question that way.
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by James DeRuvo (08/08/2007)
If you want to shoot video and then edit it to take out wasted scenes, add titles and music, etc., you're taking a hit in video quality by shooting native with a DVD camera ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). This is because the video on DVDs is encoded to MPEG2, a compressed format. It's great as an end of the line format, but not for shooting source footage. Likewise, hard drive based camcorders ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ), while convenient, tend to record in MPEG2 (only JVC gives you an option to record in AVI). This gives you the same problem. Additionally, you will also have to "re-encode" (also called demuxing) the footage into an editable format. It's a hassle for those of us who wish to edit our videos as a hobby.
However, for DVDs, you'll need to take that DVD and "rip" it to your PC and then encode it into a more editible format. I recommend DVD Decrypter or DVD Shrink. They will get your footage off the dvd and onto your PC. You can then use something like Videoera (PC) or Handbrake (Mac) to encode it to a more editable format. Depending on what editing software you use, you may be able to import mpeg2 and even VOB files directly. But understand that you're already starting with compressed footage, so the resolution quality will not be as good as if you had shot native with MiniDV tape and captured to your PC.
Oppositely, miniDV cameras ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) are much more robust. Cameras like the Elura 100 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) are much better in format because once you've captured, edited and then burned to DVD, you aren't recompressing already compressed footage, like using the DVD camera would force you into.
I'm a big fan of Canon ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). Most models have widescreen ability, image stabilization, and a nifty little feature called analog to digital pass through, which enables you to take those home movies you have on VHS and capture them onto your PC by daisy chaining your VCR through the camera and into the PC via firewire. Then you can edit and burn to DVD as well. Great feature.
Canon's new models upgrade its ZR-line of miniDV camcorders. The Canon ZR800, 830, and 850 will replace the ZR500, 600, and 700 as the company's budget video cameras. While these new models offer only minor improvements over their predecessors, they're welcome offerings ...
With a price difference of just $80 between models, the three offer similar features. All are relatively low resolution, with 680,000-pixel sensors on the ZR800 and ZR830 and a 1-megapixel sensor on the ZR850. All three use the same 35X zoom lens, and feature *electronic* image stabilization to reduce shake. Of course, any magnification over about 12X is usually going to be shaky without a tripod, regardless of the anti-shake features. Finally, all three camcorders have a 2.7-inch 16:9 widescreen LCD for framing shots.
The ZR830 and ZR850 include a new QuickStart feature, a modified standby mode that Canon claims draws 50 percent less power. All three camcorders also feature SecureDigital card slots, and the ZR830 and ZR850 support SDHC cards with capacities of 4 GB and higher. While the ZR800 doesn't feature QuickStart, it's the only one among the three to offer an external microphone port. ZR830 and ZR850 users have to make due with the camera's built-in mic.
The Canon ZR800, ZR830, and ZR850 ship later this month, with suggested price tags of $280, $300, and $353, respectively.
Another good option is the Panasonic GS500 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). 3CCD camera with both firewire and USB 2.0 for transfer, image stabilization, and recording on miniDV. Word on the street though, is that the GS500 has been discontinued to make ready for a new model. You can still find it available as vendors sell out their existing stock to make ready. And support will still be available for it.
Both these cameras are good solid options.
So, why haven't I talked about HD? I just don't think it's ready for the mainstream consumer because of market saturation of HD. As such, it's purely the domain of professionals and early adopters who don't mind investing a good deal of cash to be the first ones to use the latest. That's changing mind you. As we head towards 2007 (the year that Uncle Sam has mandated for moving television broadcast into the HD spectrum), prices have dropped dramatically this year on HD televisions (from $8K to just over $1K), but let's not forget that you'd also need an HD capable editing software, HD DVD burner, HD dvd player, etc. And you need to unlearn and relearn how to shoot HD. And how many friends and family are actually investing in HD at the moment? Sharing HD DVDs with them will be a problem. So, for at least the next 6 months to a year, HD is still out of reach. But it won't be for long.
Well, my beef about HD is that market saturation just isn't there yet. And in buying an HD camera, you have to also upgrade to an HDTV, HD DVD player, HD DVD burner and use expensive HD DVD media. And since there's yet another petty and rediculous format war going on between HD DVD and Blue Ray, which one do you get? And that also has an issue with what others have. All this, and the fact that HD is still the purvue of the early adopter has prices very expensive and it all adds up.
So, it's up to you if you want to get in on the ground floor of HD, or wait until the tipping point has been reached with prices, availability, and market saturation. My bet is you'll be ready when you're looking to buy your NEXT camcorder, not this one.
I hope that helps.
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However, for DVDs, you'll need to take that DVD and "rip" it to your PC and then encode it into a more editible format. I recommend DVD Decrypter or DVD Shrink. They will get your footage off the dvd and onto your PC. You can then use something like Videoera (PC) or Handbrake (Mac) to encode it to a more editable format. Depending on what editing software you use, you may be able to import mpeg2 and even VOB files directly. But understand that you're already starting with compressed footage, so the resolution quality will not be as good as if you had shot native with MiniDV tape and captured to your PC.
Oppositely, miniDV cameras ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) are much more robust. Cameras like the Elura 100 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) are much better in format because once you've captured, edited and then burned to DVD, you aren't recompressing already compressed footage, like using the DVD camera would force you into.
I'm a big fan of Canon ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). Most models have widescreen ability, image stabilization, and a nifty little feature called analog to digital pass through, which enables you to take those home movies you have on VHS and capture them onto your PC by daisy chaining your VCR through the camera and into the PC via firewire. Then you can edit and burn to DVD as well. Great feature.
Canon's new models upgrade its ZR-line of miniDV camcorders. The Canon ZR800, 830, and 850 will replace the ZR500, 600, and 700 as the company's budget video cameras. While these new models offer only minor improvements over their predecessors, they're welcome offerings ...
With a price difference of just $80 between models, the three offer similar features. All are relatively low resolution, with 680,000-pixel sensors on the ZR800 and ZR830 and a 1-megapixel sensor on the ZR850. All three use the same 35X zoom lens, and feature *electronic* image stabilization to reduce shake. Of course, any magnification over about 12X is usually going to be shaky without a tripod, regardless of the anti-shake features. Finally, all three camcorders have a 2.7-inch 16:9 widescreen LCD for framing shots.
The ZR830 and ZR850 include a new QuickStart feature, a modified standby mode that Canon claims draws 50 percent less power. All three camcorders also feature SecureDigital card slots, and the ZR830 and ZR850 support SDHC cards with capacities of 4 GB and higher. While the ZR800 doesn't feature QuickStart, it's the only one among the three to offer an external microphone port. ZR830 and ZR850 users have to make due with the camera's built-in mic.
The Canon ZR800, ZR830, and ZR850 ship later this month, with suggested price tags of $280, $300, and $353, respectively.
Another good option is the Panasonic GS500 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). 3CCD camera with both firewire and USB 2.0 for transfer, image stabilization, and recording on miniDV. Word on the street though, is that the GS500 has been discontinued to make ready for a new model. You can still find it available as vendors sell out their existing stock to make ready. And support will still be available for it.
Both these cameras are good solid options.
So, why haven't I talked about HD? I just don't think it's ready for the mainstream consumer because of market saturation of HD. As such, it's purely the domain of professionals and early adopters who don't mind investing a good deal of cash to be the first ones to use the latest. That's changing mind you. As we head towards 2007 (the year that Uncle Sam has mandated for moving television broadcast into the HD spectrum), prices have dropped dramatically this year on HD televisions (from $8K to just over $1K), but let's not forget that you'd also need an HD capable editing software, HD DVD burner, HD dvd player, etc. And you need to unlearn and relearn how to shoot HD. And how many friends and family are actually investing in HD at the moment? Sharing HD DVDs with them will be a problem. So, for at least the next 6 months to a year, HD is still out of reach. But it won't be for long.
Well, my beef about HD is that market saturation just isn't there yet. And in buying an HD camera, you have to also upgrade to an HDTV, HD DVD player, HD DVD burner and use expensive HD DVD media. And since there's yet another petty and rediculous format war going on between HD DVD and Blue Ray, which one do you get? And that also has an issue with what others have. All this, and the fact that HD is still the purvue of the early adopter has prices very expensive and it all adds up.
So, it's up to you if you want to get in on the ground floor of HD, or wait until the tipping point has been reached with prices, availability, and market saturation. My bet is you'll be ready when you're looking to buy your NEXT camcorder, not this one.
I hope that helps.
what is the best for ease of use (matt — 10/04/2006)
Having a baby and want a camera that gives a good picture, easy to point and record, and is known to be durable.
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by James DeRuvo (01/23/2007)
Well, for that standard, you can always go for the Pure Digital Point and Shoot Camcorder. $129 for up to 60 minutes on it's built in flash drive. Footage can be transferred over to PC with it's built in switchblade style USB plug. And because there are no moving parts, per se, it's quite durable. Downside, no video light. But great for keeping in your pocket to capture those priceless ad lib moments. There's also the Samsung SC-MM10S ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). Records to SD cards. Small. Durable. Downside, records to MPEG4 which is a compressed footage.
Last, but certainly not least, is the real camcorder of the bunch, the Canon Elura 100 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). It has widescreen ability, image stabilization, recording in Dolby, and a nifty little feature called analog to digital pass through, which enables you to take those home movies you have on VHS and capture them onto your PC by daisy chaining your VCR through the camera and into the PC via firewire. Then you can edit and burn to DVD as well. Great feature.
Some will argue that due to the design, that the Elura can record noise from it's mechanisms being so close to the microphone. My research suggests that this may or may not be a design flaw as many just don't get the noise issue on their videos while some complain they do. I'm not convinced it's a design wide issue and may be due to faulty individual units that need to be repaired or replaced. Still, it's a good solid camera and there are great prices on the link above.
Canon announced some upgrades to its ZR-line of miniDV camcorders. The Canon ZR800, 830, and 850 will replace the ZR500, 600, and 700 as the company's budget video cameras. While these new models offer only minor improvements over their predecessors, they're welcome offerings ...
With a price difference of just $80 between models, the three offer similar features. All are relatively low resolution, with 680,000-pixel sensors on the ZR800 and ZR830 and a 1-megapixel sensor on the ZR850. All three use the same 35X zoom lens, and feature *electronic* image stabilization to reduce shake. Of course, any magnification over about 12X is usually going to be shaky without a tripod, regardless of the anti-shake features. Finally, all three camcorders have a 2.7-inch 16:9 widescreen LCD for framing shots.
The ZR830 and ZR850 include a new QuickStart feature, a modified standby mode that Canon claims draws 50 percent less power. All three camcorders also feature SecureDigital card slots, and the ZR830 and ZR850 support SDHC cards with capacities of 4 GB and higher. While the ZR800 doesn't feature QuickStart, it's the only one among the three to offer an external microphone port. ZR830 and ZR850 users have to make due with the camera's built-in mic.
The Canon ZR800, ZR830, and ZR850 ship later this month, with suggested price tags of $280, $300, and $353, respectively.
All cameras will be basically point and shoot. But can they all grow with you as you evolve with it?
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Last, but certainly not least, is the real camcorder of the bunch, the Canon Elura 100 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). It has widescreen ability, image stabilization, recording in Dolby, and a nifty little feature called analog to digital pass through, which enables you to take those home movies you have on VHS and capture them onto your PC by daisy chaining your VCR through the camera and into the PC via firewire. Then you can edit and burn to DVD as well. Great feature.
Some will argue that due to the design, that the Elura can record noise from it's mechanisms being so close to the microphone. My research suggests that this may or may not be a design flaw as many just don't get the noise issue on their videos while some complain they do. I'm not convinced it's a design wide issue and may be due to faulty individual units that need to be repaired or replaced. Still, it's a good solid camera and there are great prices on the link above.
Canon announced some upgrades to its ZR-line of miniDV camcorders. The Canon ZR800, 830, and 850 will replace the ZR500, 600, and 700 as the company's budget video cameras. While these new models offer only minor improvements over their predecessors, they're welcome offerings ...
With a price difference of just $80 between models, the three offer similar features. All are relatively low resolution, with 680,000-pixel sensors on the ZR800 and ZR830 and a 1-megapixel sensor on the ZR850. All three use the same 35X zoom lens, and feature *electronic* image stabilization to reduce shake. Of course, any magnification over about 12X is usually going to be shaky without a tripod, regardless of the anti-shake features. Finally, all three camcorders have a 2.7-inch 16:9 widescreen LCD for framing shots.
The ZR830 and ZR850 include a new QuickStart feature, a modified standby mode that Canon claims draws 50 percent less power. All three camcorders also feature SecureDigital card slots, and the ZR830 and ZR850 support SDHC cards with capacities of 4 GB and higher. While the ZR800 doesn't feature QuickStart, it's the only one among the three to offer an external microphone port. ZR830 and ZR850 users have to make due with the camera's built-in mic.
The Canon ZR800, ZR830, and ZR850 ship later this month, with suggested price tags of $280, $300, and $353, respectively.
All cameras will be basically point and shoot. But can they all grow with you as you evolve with it?
by James DeRuvo (07/24/2007)
Hi, I noticed that you haven't marked any replies as the "best answer." Are you still looking for an answer? If so, I recommend you re-submit it on digitalcamera-hq.com so it will have a better chance of being noticed. These days it looks like most questions are being answered within a few days. Good luck!
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i want informations about handycam CCD-TRV10E (Amali E Dissanayake — 10/11/2006)
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by James DeRuvo (08/10/2007)
Video8 is pretty much the 8 track of video now. You're better off looking to miniDV. Avoid DVD and hard drive camcorders.
If you want to shoot video and then edit it to take out wasted scenes, add titles and music, etc., you're taking a hit in video quality by shooting native with a DVD camera ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). This is because the video on DVDs is encoded to MPEG2, a compressed format. It's great as an end of the line format, but not for shooting source footage. Likewise, hard drive based camcorders ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ), while convenient, tend to record in MPEG2 (only JVC gives you an option to record in AVI). This gives you the same problem. Additionally, you will also have to "re-encode" (also called demuxing) the footage into an editable format. It's a hassle for those of us who wish to edit our videos as a hobby.
However, for DVDs, you'll need to take that DVD and "rip" it to your PC and then encode it into a more editible format. I recommend DVD Decrypter or DVD Shrink. They will get your footage off the dvd and onto your PC. You can then use something like Videoera (PC) or Handbrake (Mac) to encode it to a more editable format. Depending on what editing software you use, you may be able to import mpeg2 and even VOB files directly. But understand that you're already starting with compressed footage, so the resolution quality will not be as good as if you had shot native with MiniDV tape and captured to your PC.
Oppositely, miniDV cameras ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) are much more robust. Cameras like the Elura 100 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) are much better in format because once you've captured, edited and then burned to DVD, you aren't recompressing already compressed footage, like using the DVD camera would force you into.
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If you want to shoot video and then edit it to take out wasted scenes, add titles and music, etc., you're taking a hit in video quality by shooting native with a DVD camera ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). This is because the video on DVDs is encoded to MPEG2, a compressed format. It's great as an end of the line format, but not for shooting source footage. Likewise, hard drive based camcorders ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ), while convenient, tend to record in MPEG2 (only JVC gives you an option to record in AVI). This gives you the same problem. Additionally, you will also have to "re-encode" (also called demuxing) the footage into an editable format. It's a hassle for those of us who wish to edit our videos as a hobby.
However, for DVDs, you'll need to take that DVD and "rip" it to your PC and then encode it into a more editible format. I recommend DVD Decrypter or DVD Shrink. They will get your footage off the dvd and onto your PC. You can then use something like Videoera (PC) or Handbrake (Mac) to encode it to a more editable format. Depending on what editing software you use, you may be able to import mpeg2 and even VOB files directly. But understand that you're already starting with compressed footage, so the resolution quality will not be as good as if you had shot native with MiniDV tape and captured to your PC.
Oppositely, miniDV cameras ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) are much more robust. Cameras like the Elura 100 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) are much better in format because once you've captured, edited and then burned to DVD, you aren't recompressing already compressed footage, like using the DVD camera would force you into.
What would you recomend? The canon dc-40 or the panasonic pv-gs500 (rick — 10/14/2006)
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by James DeRuvo (01/24/2007)
Without question, the Panasonic GS500 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) hands down. Two reasons. 1) the GS500 is a 3 CCD camera. Great imagery, great sound.
Secondly, if you want to shoot video and then edit it to take out wasted scenes, add titles and music, etc., you're taking a hit in video quality by shooting native with a DVD camera ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). This is because the video on DVDs is encoded to MPEG2, a compressed format. It's great as an end of the line format, but not for shooting source footage. Likewise, hard drive based camcorders ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ), while convenient, tend to record in MPEG2 (only JVC gives you an option to record in AVI). This gives you the same problem. Additionally, you will also have to "re-encode" (also called demuxing) the footage into an editable format. It's a hassle for those of us who wish to edit our videos as a hobby.
Oppositely, miniDV cameras ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) are much more robust. Cameras like the Elura 100 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) are much better in format because once you've captured, edited and then burned to DVD, you aren't recompressing already compressed footage, like using the DVD camera would force you into.
But if all you want to do is record it and play it on your DVD in one step, then the DC40 is just fine for the convenience of it.
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Secondly, if you want to shoot video and then edit it to take out wasted scenes, add titles and music, etc., you're taking a hit in video quality by shooting native with a DVD camera ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). This is because the video on DVDs is encoded to MPEG2, a compressed format. It's great as an end of the line format, but not for shooting source footage. Likewise, hard drive based camcorders ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ), while convenient, tend to record in MPEG2 (only JVC gives you an option to record in AVI). This gives you the same problem. Additionally, you will also have to "re-encode" (also called demuxing) the footage into an editable format. It's a hassle for those of us who wish to edit our videos as a hobby.
Oppositely, miniDV cameras ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) are much more robust. Cameras like the Elura 100 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) are much better in format because once you've captured, edited and then burned to DVD, you aren't recompressing already compressed footage, like using the DVD camera would force you into.
But if all you want to do is record it and play it on your DVD in one step, then the DC40 is just fine for the convenience of it.
doid100 (03/14/2007)
I would recomend the 500
but it has been dscountinued
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but it has been dscountinued
by James DeRuvo (03/14/2007)
Yep. That's sadly the case. However, he may be able to get one on clearance complete with warranty and such. You just have to shop around. Or, start looking for the model that replaces it.
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by James DeRuvo (07/24/2007)
Hi, I noticed that you haven't marked any replies as the "best answer." Are you still looking for an answer? If so, I recommend you re-submit it on digitalcamera-hq.com so it will have a better chance of being noticed. These days it looks like most questions are being answered within a few days. Good luck!
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What would you recomend? The canon dc-40 or the panasonic pv-gs500 (rick — 10/14/2006)
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by James DeRuvo (01/30/2007)
I'm going with the GS500. If you want to shoot video and then edit it to take out wasted scenes, add titles and music, etc., you're taking a hit in video quality by shooting native with a DVD camera ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) like the DC40. This is because the video on DVDs is encoded to MPEG2, a compressed format. It's great as an end of the line format, but not for shooting source footage. Likewise, hard drive based camcorders ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ), while convenient, tend to record in MPEG2 (only JVC gives you an option to record in AVI). This gives you the same problem. Additionally, you will also have to "re-encode" (also called demuxing) the footage into an editable format. It's a hassle for those of us who wish to edit our videos as a hobby.
Oppositely, miniDV cameras ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) are much more robust. Cameras like the Elura 100 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) are much better in format because once you've captured, edited and then burned to DVD, you aren't recompressing already compressed footage, like using the DVD camera would force you into.
The Panasonic GS500 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) is also a 3CCD camera with both firewire and USB 2.0 for transfer, image stabilization, and recording on miniDV. Word on the street though, is that the GS500 has been discontinued to make ready for a new model. You can still find it available as vendors sell out their existing stock to make ready. And support will still be available for it.
That's where'd I go because I want to edit my movies before burning them to DVD. If that's not important to you, then perhaps the convenience the DC40 offers will tip the scales in it's favor.
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Oppositely, miniDV cameras ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) are much more robust. Cameras like the Elura 100 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) are much better in format because once you've captured, edited and then burned to DVD, you aren't recompressing already compressed footage, like using the DVD camera would force you into.
The Panasonic GS500 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) is also a 3CCD camera with both firewire and USB 2.0 for transfer, image stabilization, and recording on miniDV. Word on the street though, is that the GS500 has been discontinued to make ready for a new model. You can still find it available as vendors sell out their existing stock to make ready. And support will still be available for it.
That's where'd I go because I want to edit my movies before burning them to DVD. If that's not important to you, then perhaps the convenience the DC40 offers will tip the scales in it's favor.
by James DeRuvo (08/30/2007)
Now that both the Elura 100 and the GS500 has been discontinued (you may be able to find on eBay), Panasonic's option is the PV-GS320. On the Canon side, there's the ZR850, ZR830 and the ZR800 (all three for around $300-325).
BTW - I noticed that you haven't marked any replies as the "best answer." Are you still looking for an answer? If so, I recommend you re-submit it on digitalcamera-hq.com so it will have a better chance of being noticed. These days it looks like most questions are being answered within a few days. Good luck!
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BTW - I noticed that you haven't marked any replies as the "best answer." Are you still looking for an answer? If so, I recommend you re-submit it on digitalcamera-hq.com so it will have a better chance of being noticed. These days it looks like most questions are being answered within a few days. Good luck!
Entry level camcorder for family activities (Ray — 10/16/2006)
I'm looking to replace my Hi-8 camcorder. I will use it for family activities (including youth sports.) I would like at least a 20x optical zoom, LCD & viewfinder. I'm back-logged on copying over the Hi-8 tape (S-video out) to the computer so the sound of the video going to directly to the (camcorder) HD has me interested. The system does not have to have a built-in digital camera. I would lke to keep the price < $600. Is this realistic?
Thanks,
Ray
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Thanks,
Ray
by James DeRuvo (01/04/2007)
I'm still going to recommend the Canon Elura 100 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). Within your price range (you could almost buy two), has image stabilization, wide screen, records in dolby, an all around great camera. And an additional advantage for you is the Analog to digital pass-through which allows you to hook up that Hi8 camcorder and capture digitally to your PC for burning to DVD.
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by James DeRuvo (08/30/2007)
I noticed that you haven't marked any replies as the "best answer." Are you still looking for an answer? If so, I recommend you re-submit it on digitalcamera-hq.com so it will have a better chance of being noticed. These days it looks like most questions are being answered within a few days. Good luck!
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filming helicopters in flight (flyingtonka — 10/19/2006)
I fly helicopters all day in NYC and want to film from the aircraft, film others landing and taking off, and film things I am flying past at 150mph. I then want to edit the film easily, put in some fancy effects, captions, music etc and send out copies on DVD. I use an HP Pc and use canon digital cameras, really would like something not too expensive<$500, pretty compact, easy to use and compatible with my Pc and cameras. What would you suggest
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by James DeRuvo (11/24/2006)
Well, may as well stay in the Canon Family. And the sweet thing is, Canon camcorders, the Elura ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... )in particular, also shoot in widescreen which is stunning for shooting the NYC skylines from 1500 feet. Compact, 1.33MP, image stabilization. It's a good buy.
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by James DeRuvo (07/24/2007)
Hi, I noticed that you haven't marked any replies as the "best answer." Are you still looking for an answer? If so, I recommend you re-submit it on digitalcamera-hq.com so it will have a better chance of being noticed. These days it looks like most questions are being answered within a few days. Good luck!
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I am getting more confused as the hours pass sitting here looking at soooo many opinions (elisa — 10/20/2006)
I am getting more confused as the hours pass sitting here looking at soooo many opinions. Need help to find a decent camcorder, hard drive, do I really need High Def? Long battery life, good audio, good stabilizer, good zoom, and the obvious of a great picture. (not pro). SUGGESTIONS? And by the way, is canon coming out with a High def on hard disk??
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by James DeRuvo (12/13/2006)
Here's the thing to remember about HiDef. To really get the benefit out of high def, you need a hi def tv. you need a hi Def dvd player and hi def burner if you plan to save those memories on DVD. That can add up price wise at the moment to breaking the proverbial bank. You'll also need to unlearn habits shooting with SD which were fine but in HD, can create issues - like lighting, shooting styles, etc. And how do you share that footage with others who may not have taken or can't afford to take the HD plunge and still get that same great look. Personally, I don't think HD is ready for prime time yet. It's close, but until the prices drop dramatically and the market saturation is such, it doesn't make sense for anyone outside of early adopters to go HD at this point.
Hard Drives. Sure, they're convenient. But, like their DVD cousins, they also usually record in MPEG2. This isn't too bad if you have no intention of editing your footage, but presents a many extra hurdles if you do in order to prepare that footage to edit. And then, you end up recompressing the footage (since MPEG2 is already compressed) when you burn it back to DVD, taking a quality hit and rendering the convenience advantage a moot point.
For my money, miniDV is till the best bet for the foreseable future. And the Canon Elura 100 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) is a good choice. It records in dolby audio, has image stabilization, 20x optical zoom (ignore the digital stuff - as that's just blowing up an image killing your quality), great canon optics for a good sharp colorful picture, and the added benefit of the analog to digital pass through so you can take those home movies on VHS and get them to DVD where they'll last a lot longer. And Mac compatible if you need that.
That's where my money goes if I was getting one. And there are good prices on the Elura site here ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). Check em out.
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Hard Drives. Sure, they're convenient. But, like their DVD cousins, they also usually record in MPEG2. This isn't too bad if you have no intention of editing your footage, but presents a many extra hurdles if you do in order to prepare that footage to edit. And then, you end up recompressing the footage (since MPEG2 is already compressed) when you burn it back to DVD, taking a quality hit and rendering the convenience advantage a moot point.
For my money, miniDV is till the best bet for the foreseable future. And the Canon Elura 100 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) is a good choice. It records in dolby audio, has image stabilization, 20x optical zoom (ignore the digital stuff - as that's just blowing up an image killing your quality), great canon optics for a good sharp colorful picture, and the added benefit of the analog to digital pass through so you can take those home movies on VHS and get them to DVD where they'll last a lot longer. And Mac compatible if you need that.
That's where my money goes if I was getting one. And there are good prices on the Elura site here ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). Check em out.
elisa (12/13/2006)
An answer worth the wait. Thank you. My gut feeling confirmed. So what about stills taken from this canon? I suppose they wouldn't match those taken from let's say a compact canon dig camera...would they? I was going to forget the camcorder for now and go with the canon sd800 IS or the panasonic equivalent. also would you say the minitape camcorders are obsolete now?
thanks....elisa
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thanks....elisa
by James DeRuvo (12/14/2006)
Well, the MP of the camera is 1.33 megapixels. That isn't going to change from Still to video. As such, you can't go larger than snapshots with it or you'll end up with severe pixelation. However, the video option for a still camera is equally as limiting, so I'm not sure forsaking a camcorder for a still camera with a video feature for any reason other than convenience is a doable option IMHO.
And no, miniDV camcorders are alive and well. In fact, they are still the best option in my view as DVD and hard drive camcorders record in MPEG2 which is a compressed format.
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And no, miniDV camcorders are alive and well. In fact, they are still the best option in my view as DVD and hard drive camcorders record in MPEG2 which is a compressed format.
elisa (12/14/2006)
thanks.
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dan (01/07/2007)
ah, may be wrong, but, how can 720X576 better than 1280X720 ???? i believe if we down size the HD it will still be sharper than standard SD...
can we have some one who actually used and edited the HD images answer here.
sure, HD format editing is not going to be good. but if we are using it for pal or NTSC as final output then it is great.
say what...guys?
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can we have some one who actually used and edited the HD images answer here.
sure, HD format editing is not going to be good. but if we are using it for pal or NTSC as final output then it is great.
say what...guys?
by James DeRuvo (01/08/2007)
The point is, Dan, that market saturation for HD isn't there yet. Sure, it's getting there. But sharing your videos with friends and family at this point is kinda moot if the user has HD and the rest don't. But if you want to take the plunge into HD, buy the camera, TV, and dvd player, the dvd burner for your PC, etc., then sure, by all means, go for it. But that's quite a chunk of change when you can't share it, and when, in about 6mos. - a year the market saturation will be such that the prices will be cheaper, the technology better, and there will be more people to share videos with.
But if you're an early adopter, it's your wallet.
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But if you're an early adopter, it's your wallet.
Skuzzy (01/17/2007)
Dan, that is a big misunderstanding about images in general. If you down sample an image, it will not be as sharp as the original. There is not an algorithm, anywhere, which will maintain the clarity of the original sampled images when you change resolutions of the entire frame.
If you clip the frame, then you can maintain the clarity of the imagery at the expense of losing some of the frame.
This is why most movies are shot with a center action area small enough to allow the sides to be clipped off. If there was an algorithm available, which could preserve the clarity of the image when downsampling, it would be used instead.
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If you clip the frame, then you can maintain the clarity of the imagery at the expense of losing some of the frame.
This is why most movies are shot with a center action area small enough to allow the sides to be clipped off. If there was an algorithm available, which could preserve the clarity of the image when downsampling, it would be used instead.
I'll take any help... (elisa — 10/20/2006)
I am getting more confused as the hours pass sitting here looking at soooo many opinions. Need help to find a decent camcorder, hard drive, do I really need High Def? Long battery life, good audio, good stabilizer, good zoom, and the obvious of a great picture. (not pro). SUGGESTIONS? consumer reports likes toshiba, do you? is sony really the best. And by the way, is canon coming out with a High def on hard disk??
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bobmarley (11/15/2006)
Sound like you need to start with a price range and go from there. If your looking at this camera im guessing your looking at the 300+- range. I researched this camera and everything best in class... except for some noise complaints. Some users have reported hearing the motor noise in recordings. The noise is due to two things, 1. the ultra compact size of the elura causes everything to be really close together causing the mic to pic up on the tape motor noise (some motors seem to be louder than others, and some have no noise), 2. defected motor or a loud tape motor, people have reported returning their elura for another without the laud motor noise or testing them out at the store before perchasing.
If you dont like this I would recomend a panisonic pv-gs180 for about $100 more ($400 @ costco). And if you want a hard drive camcorder you will have two pay about $500+ where i would still recomend a panisonic. Others might recomend others...
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If you dont like this I would recomend a panisonic pv-gs180 for about $100 more ($400 @ costco). And if you want a hard drive camcorder you will have two pay about $500+ where i would still recomend a panisonic. Others might recomend others...
Does it take still pictures? (Shannon — 10/21/2006)
I'm looking for a good, reasonably priced camcorder that will take still pictures. It also needs to be Mac compatible.
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by James DeRuvo (10/21/2006)
Yes, it does. And it's MAC compatible, as Canon chose to stick with Firewire for their transfer conduit rather than USB 2, which causes some camcorders to not be compatible with the MAC unless having a special adapter.
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by James DeRuvo (08/30/2007)
Hi, I noticed that you haven't marked any replies as the "best answer." Are you still looking for an answer? If so, I recommend you re-submit it on digitalcamera-hq.com so it will have a better chance of being noticed. These days it looks like most questions are being answered within a few days. Good luck!
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rochk123 (09/12/2007)
you might to look at the canon zr series
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by James DeRuvo (09/12/2007)
Agreed. Since the Elura has been discontinued and the ZR800 line is the current model, that's where they should look. And there many improvements to the quality of the digital stills as well.
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Can anyone suggest me between sony dcr hc 46 and canon elura 100. These 2 look to have really similar specs. But Im kinda biased for sony. (arane — 10/21/2006)
I snot need a real pro cam. Just for household purposes.
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by James DeRuvo (10/21/2006)
The Canon Elura ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) has the edge on resolution, 16:9 widescreen capability (even the onboard video screen is widescreen), and a better optical zoom (20x vs. 12x). It does not come with a memory stick option, but that's only relevant for digital stills taken by the HC46 still camera feature. The HC 46 has one advantage, the included Dock station which allows for simple video transfer to the PC for editing via USB, and you can also turn your camera into a webcam for live web streaming to friends and family via the same USB intergface.
Then again, a Canon chose firewire, which is faster and a bigger "pipe" for offloading your video to your PC. Another cool feature is it's twin LED light, which offers lighting the video with low power consumption.
A potential downside is that some SONYs have comatibility problems with the APPLE MAC OS. So be wary of that and make certain that the HC46 will capture if you are a MacHead.
Depending on what your needs are, I can understand how you'd be torn. But he Elura, for my money, simply has more bang for the buck.
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Then again, a Canon chose firewire, which is faster and a bigger "pipe" for offloading your video to your PC. Another cool feature is it's twin LED light, which offers lighting the video with low power consumption.
A potential downside is that some SONYs have comatibility problems with the APPLE MAC OS. So be wary of that and make certain that the HC46 will capture if you are a MacHead.
Depending on what your needs are, I can understand how you'd be torn. But he Elura, for my money, simply has more bang for the buck.
by James DeRuvo (10/21/2006)
The Canon also does comes with an SD memory card slot, which is much more practical the proprietary Sony Memory stick, and USB for transferring pictures to PC.
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arane (10/22/2006)
So I hope I wont have any problems transferring videos from the canon elura to my PC with a USB right. Since my laptop is new and PC is kinda old it does not have the firewire port. It seems i like canon now. Damn this dilemma is killing me.
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by James DeRuvo (10/22/2006)
Depends on what you mean by "old." If it only has USB 1.1, then you will have problems.
But if it's got USB 2 and you have a decent amount of RAM, and at least a P4 chip, you'll be fine. Otherwise, you may want to use the laptop.
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But if it's got USB 2 and you have a decent amount of RAM, and at least a P4 chip, you'll be fine. Otherwise, you may want to use the laptop.
arane (10/22/2006)
I appreciate your prompt answer. So since Im ready to buy one of them, do you have any personal choice among these two. Please let me know. I am not sure if either of them has facility to attach an external microphone. Also in some cams i heard that the mike also zooms with the picture so that distant sounds can be heard.
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by James DeRuvo (10/22/2006)
Well, as I've already said, the Elura, for my money, simply has more bang for the buck.
You can't go wrong with Canon, IMHO.
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You can't go wrong with Canon, IMHO.
vinsol69 (10/30/2006)
hi all,
i have a simple question about this product that can we attach another light source with this handycam in case we wnt photography in night,and no light source is there, can we attach another light source to this,
thanks
bye
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i have a simple question about this product that can we attach another light source with this handycam in case we wnt photography in night,and no light source is there, can we attach another light source to this,
thanks
bye
rick (10/31/2006)
I have the hc 46 and I realize camcorders have gotten better , sometimes much better then when the trvs were out but I love this tiny wonder. Are you sure resolution is better on the canon.?
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rick (10/31/2006)
I have the hc 46 and I realize camcorders have gotten better , sometimes much better then when the trvs were out but I love this tiny wonder. Are you sure resolution is better on the canon.?
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cav (11/01/2006)
I am an HC46 fan but there is some incorrect inforomation being put out here. The Sony uses the USB for downloading the still pix only. It uses a IEEE 1394 (firewire) to download the video. Also, there are reviews by "users" of the Canon that claim the motor noice from the camera is very noticeable in audio on playback. Keep this in mind. Slightly less pix quality trumps bad audio everytime. The other users say the "noise" is not as noticeable when outdoors but indoors and in quiet situations, the "noise" is annoying. Look at AMAZON.COM for "user" reviews for both. If it wasn't for the "noise", I would go for the CANON in a heartbeat.
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by James DeRuvo (11/01/2006)
Cav may have a point here about the noise. I've never experienced that with any Canon camcorder. But as the addage says "your mileage may vary." And if this is the case, yes, lesser picture quality is much better than annoying camera noise.
Cav, perhaps you can post your impressions of the audio issue in the reviews section?
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Cav, perhaps you can post your impressions of the audio issue in the reviews section?
bluefish (11/10/2006)
"Depends on what you mean by "old." If it only has USB 1.1, then you will have problems.
But if it's got USB 2 and you have a decent amount of RAM, and at least a P4 chip, you'll be fine. Otherwise, you may want to use the laptop."
OR you could buy an inexpensive Firewire PCI card for you computer.
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But if it's got USB 2 and you have a decent amount of RAM, and at least a P4 chip, you'll be fine. Otherwise, you may want to use the laptop."
OR you could buy an inexpensive Firewire PCI card for you computer.
by James DeRuvo (11/13/2006)
Sure that is an option, but if the PC doesn't have enough memory or a strong enough chip to handle the video, then problems don't go away with a firewire card. If it's a P4 that's over 2 gHz, there's a shot. But it has to have at least 512 MB of RAM. Video takes up a ton of bandwidth to process and edit.
It just depends on how old the box is.
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It just depends on how old the box is.
ron (12/06/2006)
Hello,
I am planning to by a Canon Elura 100 as well, my major concern is downloading the videos for editing in my laptop. I have heard that it is very difficult to do that in a Canon. Is it true? All responses will be appreciated.
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I am planning to by a Canon Elura 100 as well, my major concern is downloading the videos for editing in my laptop. I have heard that it is very difficult to do that in a Canon. Is it true? All responses will be appreciated.
ron (12/06/2006)
Also how good is the software and cables bundled with the Canon. Do I need to buy anything else for it?
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by James DeRuvo (12/07/2006)
Not at all. If firewire, you simply hook it up and then use a capture utility from your editing software to capture the footage for editing. It's quite a straight forward process.
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Jill K (12/09/2006)
A related question from a total video newbie -- I'm wanting the Canon Elura 100. I have a computer with USB 2. Do I need firewire, or will I be able to download video via USB? (I don't really care if it's slow-ish; I'd just rather not have to get a firewire port at the moment.)
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by James DeRuvo (12/11/2006)
You'll need firewire. And firewire cards are dirt cheap and easy to install. Totally worth it too as firewire is a fatter and faster pipeline.
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Jill K (12/12/2006)
Thanks -- but I have a laptop and don't know if I want to put in a firewire card. So once again, with the Canon I NEED (absolutely need, can't work with just USB2) firewire -- correct?
THANKS for your help!
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THANKS for your help!
by James DeRuvo (12/12/2006)
Yes, you do. However, it's simple to get a PCMCIA firewire card. They're about $40. Or, you can go with a USB 2 based camera. I would at that point recommend Panasonic. ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... )
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In the dark (12/14/2006)
Have been looking at camcorders and looked long and hard at the Elura 100. For a while it was the top choice because of features, performance and price. It has good video performance, great zoom range and again the price now is sub $300. The other feature that it has that is useful to me is the analog to digital converter feature in which you can convert your old tapes to digital by running it throught he camcorder. However, it has dropped down on my list for several reasons starting with the audio noise issue. I've read in user groups this is a big problem. I've viewed and listened to video clips posted and the noise is very distracting. I will be using the camcorder to video school musical performances so this is a huge negative for me.
Besides audio/visual performance, I look for a good zoom (preferably 20x optical or better), good low light performance (since it is in auditoriums and they sometimes dim the lights except on stage) and optical stabilization (as opposed to digital).
Another negative of the Elura 100 is that the battery placement is poor (within the body). You cannot use an extended life battery since they are larger and stick out farther. You will not be able to close the screen (flip the screen in) with an extended life battery. Again, since I will be filming performances, a battery that can go at least 3 hours is necessary. This can be solved by buying a second battery and switching it out during breaks so it is more of an inconvenience than anything.
Regarding the Sony, we have the model below the HC-46. It has done well and looks good on the screen (much better than my old Canon Hi8). However, when we download it to the computer, the videos look very grainy. It does have a nice feature of Night Shot which can capture video at very very low light (candlelight) where cameras without this feature cannot. Of course, the video is of low resolution and is green but it beats totally black video where you can't see a thing.
My top choice right now is the Panasonic PV-GS500. It has superb video due to the 3CCDs and no motor noise, does better in low light than most camcorders (due to its larger chip) and can accept larger extended battery. HOWEVER, it only has a 12x zoom and no analog/digital converter which is a big bummer (big sigh). The last negative is the price which is 2 1/2 times the cost of the Elura 100. However, the motor noise kills the Elura. I figure, even with the lower zoom and no converter and big price tag, for my needs, the GS500 is the best choice since I will have to live with it the next 7-8 years.
My second choice the Panasonic PV-GS300, another 3CCD camcorder that does well. It does not perform quite as well as the GS500, all around and there is a noticeable difference in performance. The zoom is only 10x compared to the GS500 which is 12x. Since I will be using this for 7-8 years, the extra pain of shelling out an extra $300 is a necessity.
Again, the Elura 100 is nice considering the features and especially since it is more in line with what I really want to pay but the noise factor is the killer, for me at least.
Lastly, I also looked at the Sony HC-96 which performs well but is pricey. In the end the GS500 for the same price range outperformed it all around and is 3CCD compared the H-96 which is a single chip.
The Elura 100 versus Sony HC-46? Tough call only because of the noise issue of the Canon. I'd go with reduced video and choose the Sony over the Elura. My only concern is my experience with Sony camcorders are that they haven't lasted as long for me as the Canons (this is just my experience). Just a funny note. Sony camcorders are so popular that many parents have them and are taping in a crowded auditorium. I've had to have tripods up high to get a good shot so the only way to adjust it, is by using the remote. The first time I did this, you should have seen the response. Every time I zoomed in or out, it zoomed everyone else's as well, so there was a lot of people scrambling and re-adjusting their cameras until we all figured out what was going on and I had to quit using the remote. Now I make sure I'm monitoring the screen at all times just in case someone uses theirs.
There are several discussion groups regarding the Elura 100 noise issue. I'm not sure this is the one where there were a lot of people posting problems but you can do a Google search as well. Hope this helps.
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Besides audio/visual performance, I look for a good zoom (preferably 20x optical or better), good low light performance (since it is in auditoriums and they sometimes dim the lights except on stage) and optical stabilization (as opposed to digital).
Another negative of the Elura 100 is that the battery placement is poor (within the body). You cannot use an extended life battery since they are larger and stick out farther. You will not be able to close the screen (flip the screen in) with an extended life battery. Again, since I will be filming performances, a battery that can go at least 3 hours is necessary. This can be solved by buying a second battery and switching it out during breaks so it is more of an inconvenience than anything.
Regarding the Sony, we have the model below the HC-46. It has done well and looks good on the screen (much better than my old Canon Hi8). However, when we download it to the computer, the videos look very grainy. It does have a nice feature of Night Shot which can capture video at very very low light (candlelight) where cameras without this feature cannot. Of course, the video is of low resolution and is green but it beats totally black video where you can't see a thing.
My top choice right now is the Panasonic PV-GS500. It has superb video due to the 3CCDs and no motor noise, does better in low light than most camcorders (due to its larger chip) and can accept larger extended battery. HOWEVER, it only has a 12x zoom and no analog/digital converter which is a big bummer (big sigh). The last negative is the price which is 2 1/2 times the cost of the Elura 100. However, the motor noise kills the Elura. I figure, even with the lower zoom and no converter and big price tag, for my needs, the GS500 is the best choice since I will have to live with it the next 7-8 years.
My second choice the Panasonic PV-GS300, another 3CCD camcorder that does well. It does not perform quite as well as the GS500, all around and there is a noticeable difference in performance. The zoom is only 10x compared to the GS500 which is 12x. Since I will be using this for 7-8 years, the extra pain of shelling out an extra $300 is a necessity.
Again, the Elura 100 is nice considering the features and especially since it is more in line with what I really want to pay but the noise factor is the killer, for me at least.
Lastly, I also looked at the Sony HC-96 which performs well but is pricey. In the end the GS500 for the same price range outperformed it all around and is 3CCD compared the H-96 which is a single chip.
The Elura 100 versus Sony HC-46? Tough call only because of the noise issue of the Canon. I'd go with reduced video and choose the Sony over the Elura. My only concern is my experience with Sony camcorders are that they haven't lasted as long for me as the Canons (this is just my experience). Just a funny note. Sony camcorders are so popular that many parents have them and are taping in a crowded auditorium. I've had to have tripods up high to get a good shot so the only way to adjust it, is by using the remote. The first time I did this, you should have seen the response. Every time I zoomed in or out, it zoomed everyone else's as well, so there was a lot of people scrambling and re-adjusting their cameras until we all figured out what was going on and I had to quit using the remote. Now I make sure I'm monitoring the screen at all times just in case someone uses theirs.
There are several discussion groups regarding the Elura 100 noise issue. I'm not sure this is the one where there were a lot of people posting problems but you can do a Google search as well. Hope this helps.
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by James DeRuvo (12/14/2006)
Well said, ItD. I reckon I should reevaluate the Elura in light of the noise issue. You can have the greatest image in the world, but if the sound takes you out of what you're watching, what's the point?
However, in the link that you give, there is testimony from some Elura users that motor noise isn't an issue. Some have no noise at all. This may lead more to a few lemons in the inventory rather than a simply bad design. Although some believe the problem is an issue with all miniDV cameras with onboard mics as they are too close to the casette department that some noise coming from there should be expected in really quiet environments. In that instance, they advise using an external microphone.
I also agree that the GS500 is a good choice, particularly if you're a mac user as the Sony would be problematic as it isn't compatible with OSX.
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However, in the link that you give, there is testimony from some Elura users that motor noise isn't an issue. Some have no noise at all. This may lead more to a few lemons in the inventory rather than a simply bad design. Although some believe the problem is an issue with all miniDV cameras with onboard mics as they are too close to the casette department that some noise coming from there should be expected in really quiet environments. In that instance, they advise using an external microphone.
I also agree that the GS500 is a good choice, particularly if you're a mac user as the Sony would be problematic as it isn't compatible with OSX.
p.l. (12/15/2006)
The cannon elura 100 has a TERRIBLE noise problem. It sounds as if you had been standing right next to a fan or air conditioner the entire time you record. It is not as noticable when playing back on the camcorder, but it is extremely noticable on a tv. Ruins your video.
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by James DeRuvo (12/15/2006)
Again, while that may be your experience, I've read others from the linked thread In the Dark provided who simply don't have that problem. Which leads me to believe there's a bad batch in the production pipeline that got distributed. I would recommend you contact Canon about an RMA replacement.
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hey_sparky (12/15/2006)
Regarding the Canon motor noise issue, that isn't always a problem with that particular camera AND I have read that other cameras (notably Sony) can also have this issue. If you want the best possible sound when you record, you are going to want to use an external mic. The elura 100 does have an external mic jack.
If I was going to use the camera to record a musical performance, where sound quality is probably even more important that video quality, I'd definitely use an external mic, no matter which camera I was using.
Quote:
"My top choice right now is the Panasonic PV-GS500. It has superb video due to the 3CCDs and no motor noise, does better in low light than most camcorders (due to its larger chip) and can accept larger extended battery"
A correction, the Panasonic PV-GS550 does not have "a larger chip", it has 3 individual chips (3CCD's) so it's low light capability isn't necessarily "better than most camcorders" because for low light capability size is more important than the number of chips.
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If I was going to use the camera to record a musical performance, where sound quality is probably even more important that video quality, I'd definitely use an external mic, no matter which camera I was using.
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"My top choice right now is the Panasonic PV-GS500. It has superb video due to the 3CCDs and no motor noise, does better in low light than most camcorders (due to its larger chip) and can accept larger extended battery"
A correction, the Panasonic PV-GS550 does not have "a larger chip", it has 3 individual chips (3CCD's) so it's low light capability isn't necessarily "better than most camcorders" because for low light capability size is more important than the number of chips.
In the dark (12/16/2006)
The Panasonic PV-GS500 has three chips as I've alluded to. The chips are also larger than most Mini-DV camcorders on the market so it does do better in low light. If you do a comparison of the Mini -DVs you're interested in you'll find that this is correct. Here are some chip sizes
Sony DCR-HC46 1/5.5 inch
Sony DCR-HC36 1/6
Sony DCR-HC96 1/3
Canon Elura 100 1/5
Canon ZR700 1/6
Canon ZR500 1/6
Canon Optura 600 1/2.8
Panasonic PV-GS180 1/6
Panasonic PV-GS500 1/4.7
Panasonic PV-GS300 1/6
Of these there are only two camcorders that have larger chips than the GS500, the Canon Optura 600 and Sony DCR-HC96.
The following are the test results of
www.camcorderinfo.com in the reviews
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and <a href="camcorderinfo.com/content/C... Light Performance (higher score better)
Panasonic PV-GS500 6.75
Panasonic PV-GS300 5.5
Sony DCR-HC96 6.75
Canon Optura 600 5.75
Canon Elura 100 4.75
Canon ZR700 4.75
Canon Elura 90 3.75
Panasonic PV-GS39 4.75
Sony DCR-HC26 3.0
You can check the test results for other camcorders at:
<a href="#"><a href="#"><a href="#"><a href="#"><a href="#"><a href="#"><a href="camcorderinfo.com/d/Reviews... My statement "better than most camcorders" should be construed as just that and not interpreted at "great low light performance". Based on other reputable performance reviews, I stand by that assessment.
As a side note the Canon Elura 100 did notch 2006 best camcorder of the year and best camcorder under $400 from www.camcorderinfo.com while the GS500 took best camcorder under $1000.
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Sony DCR-HC46 1/5.5 inch
Sony DCR-HC36 1/6
Sony DCR-HC96 1/3
Canon Elura 100 1/5
Canon ZR700 1/6
Canon ZR500 1/6
Canon Optura 600 1/2.8
Panasonic PV-GS180 1/6
Panasonic PV-GS500 1/4.7
Panasonic PV-GS300 1/6
Of these there are only two camcorders that have larger chips than the GS500, the Canon Optura 600 and Sony DCR-HC96.
The following are the test results of
www.camcorderinfo.com in the reviews
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and <a href="camcorderinfo.com/content/C... Light Performance (higher score better)
Panasonic PV-GS500 6.75
Panasonic PV-GS300 5.5
Sony DCR-HC96 6.75
Canon Optura 600 5.75
Canon Elura 100 4.75
Canon ZR700 4.75
Canon Elura 90 3.75
Panasonic PV-GS39 4.75
Sony DCR-HC26 3.0
You can check the test results for other camcorders at:
<a href="#"><a href="#"><a href="#"><a href="#"><a href="#"><a href="#"><a href="camcorderinfo.com/d/Reviews... My statement "better than most camcorders" should be construed as just that and not interpreted at "great low light performance". Based on other reputable performance reviews, I stand by that assessment.
As a side note the Canon Elura 100 did notch 2006 best camcorder of the year and best camcorder under $400 from www.camcorderinfo.com while the GS500 took best camcorder under $1000.
by James DeRuvo (12/18/2006)
Here's another thought regarding recording a performance. You could get there early and see if you could "patch in" to the sound board. Usually, if you're really nice and offer to help, sound techs will let you plug into their audio feed directly so you can get a solid audio track. Just a thought.
Also, a note about the PV-GS500, word on the street is it's been discontinued.
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Also, a note about the PV-GS500, word on the street is it's been discontinued.
Dave (12/21/2006)
I have an Elura 100 that I bought back in Aug 2006. I have NO motor noise in my recorded audio. I just used it to film my daughter's drama play and even though I was 6 rows back, and the actor's were not miked, I can hear her fine without any motor noise.
My question. I've been filming in 'wide screen' and tonight used XP's movie maker to DL the video to my PC to create a DVD. The video is 'tall' in that the widescreen format has been crunched down to 4:3 format making everyone tall. I noticed the same thing looking at the video output to my 4:3 TV.
What video editing software will allow me to edit these videos in widescreen format and not break the bank?
TIA,
Dave
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My question. I've been filming in 'wide screen' and tonight used XP's movie maker to DL the video to my PC to create a DVD. The video is 'tall' in that the widescreen format has been crunched down to 4:3 format making everyone tall. I noticed the same thing looking at the video output to my 4:3 TV.
What video editing software will allow me to edit these videos in widescreen format and not break the bank?
TIA,
Dave
by James DeRuvo (12/21/2006)
First off, I'm not much of as fan of Windows Movie Maker. It's rather limited in it's editing features and output. I understand using what's on your computer but you get what you pay for, IMHO. You could check the settings you have it set for before capture to see if there's a problem there. Go to Options, then Video Properties. Set it for 16:9. Then capture and see if it comes out better.
Absent that, I'd try recapturing the video using another utility. Recommend WinDV ( windv.com ). It's a free application, light on size, and captures great.
I'd also consider picking up Adobe's Premiere Elements 3.0. For $99 you get 99 video and audio channels and 80% of the functionality of Premiere Pro. Well worth it if you're seriously into editing.
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Absent that, I'd try recapturing the video using another utility. Recommend WinDV ( windv.com ). It's a free application, light on size, and captures great.
I'd also consider picking up Adobe's Premiere Elements 3.0. For $99 you get 99 video and audio channels and 80% of the functionality of Premiere Pro. Well worth it if you're seriously into editing.
Dave (12/22/2006)
Thanks James! I have used PremierPro in the past and wasn't impressed with it (editing DVD's in MPG format - had serious audio and video syncing issues) but that was at least 2 years ago.
Will look at that other capture program also. Thanks!
Dave
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Will look at that other capture program also. Thanks!
Dave
udhay (12/27/2006)
hi,
What is the difference between Panasonic PV GS500 and
Panasonic NV GS500 (PAL) ?
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What is the difference between Panasonic PV GS500 and
Panasonic NV GS500 (PAL) ?
by James DeRuvo (12/29/2006)
Frame rates. The PAL version records at 25 FPS, whereas the NTSC version records in 30 FPS. If you live in the US, you'll need to get the NTSC version or you'll end up spending a lot of time converting ...
ps to Dave - Regarding Premiere, as the old saying goes, "your mileage may vary!" There are plenty other editing options afoot.
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ps to Dave - Regarding Premiere, as the old saying goes, "your mileage may vary!" There are plenty other editing options afoot.
sjb (01/02/2007)
James DeRuvo,
Although there are many Elura 100 satisfied customers, don't the Elura 100 noise complainers (even if there are only a few out there- but still enough of them to have a noise claim) discourage you from recommending it so highly? I mean , why take a chance on it when we already have some bad recommendations? At leaset with the Sony hc46 there aren't any negative reviews!
Basically what I'm asking is: is it worth taking the chance on the Elura 100 (the chance of noise) when the hc46 seems just as good
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Although there are many Elura 100 satisfied customers, don't the Elura 100 noise complainers (even if there are only a few out there- but still enough of them to have a noise claim) discourage you from recommending it so highly? I mean , why take a chance on it when we already have some bad recommendations? At leaset with the Sony hc46 there aren't any negative reviews!
Basically what I'm asking is: is it worth taking the chance on the Elura 100 (the chance of noise) when the hc46 seems just as good
by James DeRuvo (01/03/2007)
No it doesn't. Because for every person that complains about noise, there are about 20 who don't have that experience. This leads me to suspect either defective product, bad batch manufacturing, etc. My belief is, that if you run into a noise issue, you simply return it for another.
It really comes down to if you 1) plan on editing and 2) have a MAC. If neither apply, then sure, go for it.
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It really comes down to if you 1) plan on editing and 2) have a MAC. If neither apply, then sure, go for it.
Sergio (01/13/2007)
Hi
I'm a total newbie to digital camcorders. I've been looking at some reviews because I want to buy one and need to decide which model to get.
I have a generic question for you ... I live in country which uses PAL. I have the possibility of buying the camcorder from USA and I was wondering if it makes that much of a difference if i buy an NTSC camcorder. I plan to download all my movies to my PC and after some editing burn them to DVD. Will this work or will I need a PAL camcorder ?
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I'm a total newbie to digital camcorders. I've been looking at some reviews because I want to buy one and need to decide which model to get.
I have a generic question for you ... I live in country which uses PAL. I have the possibility of buying the camcorder from USA and I was wondering if it makes that much of a difference if i buy an NTSC camcorder. I plan to download all my movies to my PC and after some editing burn them to DVD. Will this work or will I need a PAL camcorder ?
by James DeRuvo (01/16/2007)
You'll want to pick up the PAL version. Trust me, Pal shoots at 25 FMS, while NTSC is 30 FPS. You'll run into problems if you don't.
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dilp (01/21/2007)
james, regarding sergio's question .. i am not sure about your answer ..even if the cam is PAL or NTSC, once you download it to your computer and burn it to your dvd ... will it make any difference?
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Ed, (01/21/2007)
I have 35 dv video tapes and I need a camera to playback so I can put them on to DVD are all cameras equal at playback from recordings from another camera , I feel that there are two choices for me 1 buy a cheep camera and 2 buy a decent camera for future use when grandchildren arrive. I may want to buy a decent dv camera under $400 if possible any advice! Even if its over my budget please advise of your choice. Thank for your input!
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Ungermann (06/13/2007)
I have an Elura 100, this is a fabulous camcorder. The motor noise does present if you record in quiet conditions like inside your house. The automatic gain control (AGC) tries to capture every sound in a room, so it amplifies everything including motor noise. Shooting outside or on a party or on an event is not a problem, the noise is barely there. I don't think this is a problem. First, I got an external mic anyway (ATR-25, very good, not exactly a shotgun, but pretty directional). It seems that AGC is turned off for an external mic. Also, many editing apps allow you to remove background noise, you just record some room noise and tell the app that this is noise it should remove. Works very well.
Elura 100 has mic in, A/V out (you can even use this output for headphones), has proper 16:9 mode. I love it! Also, it can be used in a pseudo-manual mode, when you can preselect shutter speed, and then adjust aperture as you need. See details here: elurauser.com/articles/manu... Neutral density filters are must haves for outdoor shooting. Now you can shoot like a pro with a three hundred dollar camcorder. I think it is a pretty cool piece of equipment.
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Elura 100 has mic in, A/V out (you can even use this output for headphones), has proper 16:9 mode. I love it! Also, it can be used in a pseudo-manual mode, when you can preselect shutter speed, and then adjust aperture as you need. See details here: elurauser.com/articles/manu... Neutral density filters are must haves for outdoor shooting. Now you can shoot like a pro with a three hundred dollar camcorder. I think it is a pretty cool piece of equipment.
Barb Smuts (01/30/2008)
I have purchased 4 Canon mini-dvd cameras in the last 5 years, including ZR800 and Elura 80. Every single one of them stopped working within 1-2 years (after the warranty had expired). I checked the repair records for mini-dvds and Canon's is bad. Sony's is much better. I will never buy another Canon camcorder.
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dark194 (02/16/2009)
byjamesderuvo has an interested point about quality and price, but he mistook another feauture on the Sony DCR-HC46's dock. It has a firewire option too. Still, it is the consumer decision weather they want a Canon or Sony.
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What's better: dvd or mini dv? (Michele — 10/21/2006)
I don't know whether a DVD or miniDV version is better for me. I want to easily load vide to the computer and burn DVDs for the future.
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Vern (10/21/2006)
MiniDV tapes are the easiest and proven method to download video clips to computers using firewire or USB connections. Editing softwares are designed to accept these downloads which is not so with many of the DVD disks because of the various formats and type of disks. Also, computers need special Codecs (a device that compresses and decompresses the video files) to convert the MPEG files into video files readable by editing softwares. DVD camcorders are great for recording directly on a disk and immediate playback on DVD players using DVD+/-RW disks. Another plus. MiniDV tapes are reusable at any point. DVD+/-RW disk must be completely erased with a computer and software program before they can be re-used again. MiniDV tapes are easier to handle, to store and compact in size.
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Lindsay (10/24/2006)
I'd say miniDV. The tapes are easy to use and write over. You will have no problems downloading clips off of miniDVs but dvds you might have a problem. DVDs are one time use thing as well, unless you want to go through the long earsing process on your computer. MiniDVs are easy to reuse, simply rewind to the beginning of the tape and you are ready to go! One might argue that dvds are ready for easy playback on the tv but digital camcorders generally come with a cable that connects your camera directly into the tv. After that viewing your clips on the tv is as simple as using a VCR.
To address your problem specifically I would still say miniDV. Its the easiest format to download right onto your computer. Just plug your camera in and go to capture on your editing software and your are there. While dvds are already in the dvd format you desire, if you want to do any type of editing you are just going to have to burn it onto a dvd after the editing anyways, so being on dvd originally does you no good.
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To address your problem specifically I would still say miniDV. Its the easiest format to download right onto your computer. Just plug your camera in and go to capture on your editing software and your are there. While dvds are already in the dvd format you desire, if you want to do any type of editing you are just going to have to burn it onto a dvd after the editing anyways, so being on dvd originally does you no good.
Raj (06/19/2007)
A bit confusing. These days miniDV and DVD are both being phased out with hard disk drives
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by James DeRuvo (07/20/2007)
If you want to shoot video and then edit it to take out wasted scenes, add titles and music, etc., you're taking a hit in video quality by shooting native with a DVD camera ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). This is because the video on DVDs is encoded to MPEG2, a compressed format. It's great as an end of the line format, but not for shooting source footage. Likewise, hard drive based camcorders ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ), while convenient, tend to record in MPEG2 (only JVC gives you an option to record in AVI). This gives you the same problem. Additionally, you will also have to "re-encode" (also called demuxing) the footage into an editable format. It's a hassle for those of us who wish to edit our videos as a hobby.
However, for DVDs, you'll need to take that DVD and "rip" it to your PC and then encode it into a more editible format. I recommend DVD Decrypter or DVD Shrink. They will get your footage off the dvd and onto your PC. You can then use something like Videoera (PC) or Handbrake (Mac) to encode it to a more editable format. Depending on what editing software you use, you may be able to import mpeg2 and even VOB files directly. But understand that you're already starting with compressed footage, so the resolution quality will not be as good as if you had shot native with MiniDV tape and captured to your PC.
Good luck.
Oppositely, miniDV cameras ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) are much more robust. Cameras like the Elura 100 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) are much better in format because once you've captured, edited and then burned to DVD, you aren't recompressing already compressed footage, like using the DVD camera would force you into.
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However, for DVDs, you'll need to take that DVD and "rip" it to your PC and then encode it into a more editible format. I recommend DVD Decrypter or DVD Shrink. They will get your footage off the dvd and onto your PC. You can then use something like Videoera (PC) or Handbrake (Mac) to encode it to a more editable format. Depending on what editing software you use, you may be able to import mpeg2 and even VOB files directly. But understand that you're already starting with compressed footage, so the resolution quality will not be as good as if you had shot native with MiniDV tape and captured to your PC.
Good luck.
Oppositely, miniDV cameras ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) are much more robust. Cameras like the Elura 100 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) are much better in format because once you've captured, edited and then burned to DVD, you aren't recompressing already compressed footage, like using the DVD camera would force you into.
Kos (11/08/2007)
But what about the future of MiniDV tapes, aren't they being outdated soon?
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Arnold (07/26/2008)
I personally wouldn't trust DVDs to last forever given the relatively high rate of attrition that pre-recorded DVDs and CDs seem to have in our household. One scratch and potentially the whole disc is unreadable. At least with tape a mangled bit could be cut out and you'd just lose that.
However, I think that it's fair to say at this point that tapes are on their way out. Yes, you can still get miniDV but by and large it's on either low end machines or those at the very top end which implies that it will die out in consumer products fairly soon but may well last a good deal longer on professional machines. After all, Betamax lasted many, many years on pro products after it had been completely replaced by VHS for consumer products.
Personally my money would now be on SD machines. At the time of the original post these were just far too expensive and the memory itself cost a fortune too yet now on a standard resolution machine you can have about an hour on a card that costs $10 or so. Also, the machines are, in principle, a good deal more robust than those with hard discs or DVD drives as there aren't any moving parts. And to top it all, the SD format is interchangeable amongst a whole host of other devices including "still" cameras (most of which can record movies these days), computers, and the little media players to name but a few. So if you've a still camera and run out of space on your camcorder you could just swap the cards.
What's probably more important long term though is that you include your movies and photos in a proper backup plan so that you move them all to new technologies as they come along. After all, had you recorded your movies to the backup technology of even just 10 years ago chances are that you'd not be able to read the discs/tapes at this point. If nothing else, you could at least hold films up to the light if all else failed!
Sadly I suspect that the majority of people won't do that so their grandchildren will never be able to see the many videos or even photos that we've been taking in massive numbers in the digital age.
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However, I think that it's fair to say at this point that tapes are on their way out. Yes, you can still get miniDV but by and large it's on either low end machines or those at the very top end which implies that it will die out in consumer products fairly soon but may well last a good deal longer on professional machines. After all, Betamax lasted many, many years on pro products after it had been completely replaced by VHS for consumer products.
Personally my money would now be on SD machines. At the time of the original post these were just far too expensive and the memory itself cost a fortune too yet now on a standard resolution machine you can have about an hour on a card that costs $10 or so. Also, the machines are, in principle, a good deal more robust than those with hard discs or DVD drives as there aren't any moving parts. And to top it all, the SD format is interchangeable amongst a whole host of other devices including "still" cameras (most of which can record movies these days), computers, and the little media players to name but a few. So if you've a still camera and run out of space on your camcorder you could just swap the cards.
What's probably more important long term though is that you include your movies and photos in a proper backup plan so that you move them all to new technologies as they come along. After all, had you recorded your movies to the backup technology of even just 10 years ago chances are that you'd not be able to read the discs/tapes at this point. If nothing else, you could at least hold films up to the light if all else failed!
Sadly I suspect that the majority of people won't do that so their grandchildren will never be able to see the many videos or even photos that we've been taking in massive numbers in the digital age.
How do I get the date to record on a Elura 100 (Bill Harr — 10/23/2006)
I have set the date and time. Can not see how I can get it to record on the tape. Would like it to record on the start and then go a way.Bill
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by James DeRuvo (10/26/2006)
There isn't really an option for that on the camera. You can make the date appear while you're playing back the video footage through your camera by going to menu, display setup, set TV screen to on.
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What are some good cameras under $1000 for a somewhat advanced user? (Lindsay — 10/23/2006)
I am looking into a career in film and already have made many home movies. My camcoder recently broke and I am looking for a replacement under $1000. My requiments are: uses mini dv tapes, firewire connection, microphone plug-in, and a 20x+ zoom (thats what my current camera has and I definetly dont want anything worse). I don't need many bells and whistles, I just need something that is inexpensive that looks decent.
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by James DeRuvo (12/12/2006)
Rumor is that Canon will be announcing a new HD GL3 at CES this year. If so, then prices for the GL2 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) are sure to drop (they're hovering around $1800 right now).
Absent that, you could look at the Elura. ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) It's about $400.
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Absent that, you could look at the Elura. ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) It's about $400.
Piero Foto (03/20/2007)
Hi, Lindsay.
If you are looking for a camcorder to get into a film career, I would not recommend any consumer camcorder models. You need to step it up to and get a camcorder to suit your professional needs. You will also you need to look like a pro to be taken more seriously. Palm corder styles is not going to cut it, trust me.
The pro-style cams will handle much better for smoother and more accurate cam movements, they will also give you the professional A/V controls you need. A camcoder being too compact can work to your disadvantage. The Canon GL2 would work, but nothing smaller than that. You will need to have a good stable DV picture quality.
Here are a few links of pro-style video cams that would be more suitable around your price range.
Panasonic
thecamerapros.com/display.a...
pronto.com/comparisonGrid.d...
Canon
The GL2 as of 1:00pm Mar/20 the price was $849 with a video light. I called and confirmed it. If the price is higher than this, try clicking on this link randomly at different times. The price changes like the stock market.
thecamerapros.com/prodetail...
thecamerapros.com/display.a...
JVC
bhphotovideo.com/bnh/contro...
Sony
thecamerapros.com/prodetail...
Happy Shopping!
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If you are looking for a camcorder to get into a film career, I would not recommend any consumer camcorder models. You need to step it up to and get a camcorder to suit your professional needs. You will also you need to look like a pro to be taken more seriously. Palm corder styles is not going to cut it, trust me.
The pro-style cams will handle much better for smoother and more accurate cam movements, they will also give you the professional A/V controls you need. A camcoder being too compact can work to your disadvantage. The Canon GL2 would work, but nothing smaller than that. You will need to have a good stable DV picture quality.
Here are a few links of pro-style video cams that would be more suitable around your price range.
Panasonic
thecamerapros.com/display.a...
pronto.com/comparisonGrid.d...
Canon
The GL2 as of 1:00pm Mar/20 the price was $849 with a video light. I called and confirmed it. If the price is higher than this, try clicking on this link randomly at different times. The price changes like the stock market.
thecamerapros.com/prodetail...
thecamerapros.com/display.a...
JVC
bhphotovideo.com/bnh/contro...
Sony
thecamerapros.com/prodetail...
Happy Shopping!
Piero Foto (03/20/2007)
Canon
The GL2 as of 1:00pm Mar/20 the price was $849 with a video light. I called and confirmed it. If the price is higher than this, try clicking on this link randomly at different times. The price changes like the stock market. You just might real lucky today. They said this was today's price, so call if its different.
thecamerapros.com/prodetail...
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The GL2 as of 1:00pm Mar/20 the price was $849 with a video light. I called and confirmed it. If the price is higher than this, try clicking on this link randomly at different times. The price changes like the stock market. You just might real lucky today. They said this was today's price, so call if its different.
thecamerapros.com/prodetail...
steve h (10/13/2007)
Canon ZR 800 is mini DV, has firewire, mike jack, AV jack, 32x zoom. Needs a lot of light for good image. I love mine for what it is.
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Which "non-professional" video camera gives the best resolution. (Ron Cordes — 10/25/2006)
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by James DeRuvo (12/12/2006)
At 1.3 MP, the Elura ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... )is a good choice and has one of the highest resolutions of any camcorder here. The Panasonic GS500 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) has slightly less MP but it is a 3 CCD camera. Very nice.
Sadly, both have been discontinued. But there are newer updated versions, particularly with Canon's ZR800, ZR830 and ZR850 line. All for around $325 or less.
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Sadly, both have been discontinued. But there are newer updated versions, particularly with Canon's ZR800, ZR830 and ZR850 line. All for around $325 or less.
by James DeRuvo (08/30/2007)
Hi, I noticed that you haven't marked any replies as the "best answer." Are you still looking for an answer? If so, I recommend you re-submit it on digitalcamera-hq.com so it will have a better chance of being noticed. These days it looks like most questions are being answered within a few days.
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Is canon Elura 100 compatable with MACs? And can you make DVDs from the videos taken with Canon eluras? (IDKMACs — 10/27/2006)
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Nick from Circuit City St 0409 (10/27/2006)
Hey IDKMACs
The Elura 100 is not mac compatible, it does not have a Firewire port on it, and only uses the usb 2.0. Your mac will ask for a camcorder to be plugged in using a firewire. If you had a PC it would be completely different, then you just use the USB. On the other hand if you really must have that camera you would have to go to the mac store to purchase pinnacle or someother type of hardware that will allow you to plug it into your mac using the rc cables (yellow-video, white/red-audio) and go from there.
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The Elura 100 is not mac compatible, it does not have a Firewire port on it, and only uses the usb 2.0. Your mac will ask for a camcorder to be plugged in using a firewire. If you had a PC it would be completely different, then you just use the USB. On the other hand if you really must have that camera you would have to go to the mac store to purchase pinnacle or someother type of hardware that will allow you to plug it into your mac using the rc cables (yellow-video, white/red-audio) and go from there.
Piero Foto (10/28/2006)
YES! the Elura 100 is "MAC COMPATIBLE" and YES!, you can make DVDs, PLUS!, you can also edit your DV footage into prostyle movies better than it could be possible with a PC.
The Canon Elura 100 DV camera needs to be used with a 4-6 pin (1394)Firewire cable (not supplied with camera. I purchased one at a local BESTBUY store). The 4-pin side of the cable end fits the Elura 100 and the other end of the cable is a standard firewire 6-pin that fits any MAC Computer with a firewire port.
Now, you must keep in mind that in-order for a computer to detect a DV camera, you need to have some type of DV supporting software. One software that will detect the Elura 100 and I am sure many other DV cameras is the Apple iMovieHD editing software. As soon as you open IMovie on your Mac it automatically detects the DV camera and gives you the option to either import the video footage for editing or just view your video footage. The software even takes complete control of your playback functions of your DV camera so that you can operate the DV camera playback through your Mac computer. To make DVD copies from your DV movie footage on a computer you must have a DVD burner installed, without a DVD burner the only other option is to convert your DV movie footage into Quicktime and burn it to a CD, without a CD burner then you truly remain without a PADDLE!
ONE MORE THING, just the other day I walked into a MAC Apple store and what do I see, a Canon Elura 100 connected to one of their MAC computers, which by-the-way this store was even offering DV courses with that setup and has led me to believe that the Canon Elura 100 is a good MAC choice for a DV consumer Camera. Finally, mini tape DV recorders seems to be preferred for digital editing as the data information is recorded uncompressed. Hope this advise helps: by Piero Foto
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The Canon Elura 100 DV camera needs to be used with a 4-6 pin (1394)Firewire cable (not supplied with camera. I purchased one at a local BESTBUY store). The 4-pin side of the cable end fits the Elura 100 and the other end of the cable is a standard firewire 6-pin that fits any MAC Computer with a firewire port.
Now, you must keep in mind that in-order for a computer to detect a DV camera, you need to have some type of DV supporting software. One software that will detect the Elura 100 and I am sure many other DV cameras is the Apple iMovieHD editing software. As soon as you open IMovie on your Mac it automatically detects the DV camera and gives you the option to either import the video footage for editing or just view your video footage. The software even takes complete control of your playback functions of your DV camera so that you can operate the DV camera playback through your Mac computer. To make DVD copies from your DV movie footage on a computer you must have a DVD burner installed, without a DVD burner the only other option is to convert your DV movie footage into Quicktime and burn it to a CD, without a CD burner then you truly remain without a PADDLE!
ONE MORE THING, just the other day I walked into a MAC Apple store and what do I see, a Canon Elura 100 connected to one of their MAC computers, which by-the-way this store was even offering DV courses with that setup and has led me to believe that the Canon Elura 100 is a good MAC choice for a DV consumer Camera. Finally, mini tape DV recorders seems to be preferred for digital editing as the data information is recorded uncompressed. Hope this advise helps: by Piero Foto
Just got my Elura 100 (Chris — 05/14/2010)
Thanks for that great info! On my way to best buy!
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I'm a mac. (06/20/2007)
Sounds like Nick is a PC user. Figures.
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iMac Maniac (08/26/2007)
Piero i cant thank you enough for answering that question. I have an iMac (g4) and a canon elura 100 mini dv camera. i recently bought a firewire 6 pin-4 pin cable off eBay because i had inspected the ports on both my camera and mac, and the cable looked like a perfect fit. When i read the first guy's comment i was unsure weather i just wasted $6 or not. Then i read read your reply and it answered ALL my questions. I have iMovie, i have a superdrive (reads/writes cd's/dvd's) So it sounds like i am all set to do some movie editing. Thanks again
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rob o'neal (11/18/2009)
can the elura be used as a pass-through device with an imac? i have about 40 tapes shot with a sony trv-33 and have been searching the internet and have called apple countless times trying to resolve this issue. the imac will not recognize the camera or a sony walkman dv player. i think it is a snow leopard issue, but admittedly, know little on this subject. apparently, i need to find a pass through device. this nightmare has been going on for two months. any help would be greatly appreciated.
thanks.
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thanks.
BrianMorgan (12/15/2009)
At BestBuy they have a Cable to Connect the Elura 100 to the MacBookPro; it is a FireWire 800 9-to-4 pin cable; Made by "Dynex"; Cost about $40. - Brian Morgan
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Which camcorder should I buy:panasonic gs300 or the Canon Eluera 100 (Paul in SA — 10/29/2006)
Which camcorder should I buy:panasonic gs300 or the Canon Eluera 100
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Traci (11/05/2006)
I am debating the same two camcorders. Does anyone have any information on this?
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by James DeRuvo (08/08/2007)
The Elura 100 has been discontinued. the Canon Elura ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). It has widescreen ability, image stabilization, recording in Dolby, and a nifty little feature called analog to digital pass through, which enables you to take those home movies you have on VHS and capture them onto your PC by daisy chaining your VCR through the camera and into the PC via firewire. Then you can edit and burn to DVD as well. Great feature.
Some will argue that due to the design, that the Elura can record noise from it's mechanisms being so close to the microphone. My research suggests that this may or may not be a design flaw as many just don't get the noise issue on their videos while some complain they do. I'm not convinced it's a design wide issue and may be due to faulty individual units that need to be repaired or replaced.
However, it has been discontinued. I believe you can still get the Panasonic GS300. Have you already decided?
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Some will argue that due to the design, that the Elura can record noise from it's mechanisms being so close to the microphone. My research suggests that this may or may not be a design flaw as many just don't get the noise issue on their videos while some complain they do. I'm not convinced it's a design wide issue and may be due to faulty individual units that need to be repaired or replaced.
However, it has been discontinued. I believe you can still get the Panasonic GS300. Have you already decided?
Need to replace PV101. Loved the optical range, lowlight boost, fades and minDV.What do you recommend? (watermusik — 10/31/2006)
Film concerts in darkish barn. The Panasonic did well. Excellent digital stereo sound. Need good replacement with same MinDV format. x12 optical minimum prefer more. Prefer camera bulk to the ultra minis. What rates top?
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by James DeRuvo (11/04/2006)
Have you taken a gander at the Canon Elura 100 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... )? All the usual refinements including nice 16:9 widescreen capability.
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watermusik (01/25/2007)
Interesting and thanks - but does the Canon support Firewire as the Pansonic DV101 did? If not, what does that also competes with the old 101. Not interested in ultra-minis - prefer the old bulk ;-)
michael
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michael
by James DeRuvo (01/25/2007)
Absolutely. Firewire is the main DV out. But if you want bulk, you may want to look at the GL2 or the XL2. HD versions coming online now, but they're expensive.
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watermusik (01/25/2007)
Thanks James. I could actually STILL buy a PV101 that I found from about 6 years back in sealed box. I am tempted at $250 but concerned about how it has survived being unused for so long. I guess the std. 90 or 1 yr. guarentee would still apply - or so I was told by the seller.
THe PV 101 had very convenient decent sized buttons for Fade and BackLight etc (by left hand fingers). plus Firewire and even a hot shoe. Lens was f1.6 3.6-72mm. I'll certainly check out the Eleru100. I need the MiniDV to play back old tapes.
thanks again
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THe PV 101 had very convenient decent sized buttons for Fade and BackLight etc (by left hand fingers). plus Firewire and even a hot shoe. Lens was f1.6 3.6-72mm. I'll certainly check out the Eleru100. I need the MiniDV to play back old tapes.
thanks again
by James DeRuvo (01/25/2007)
While that may be tempting from a comfort zone point of view, Michael, miniDV cameras have improved a heck of alot in the last 6 years. The analog to dv pass through alone is worth the $50 difference if you have any VHS home movies you'd like to get into your PC for burning to DVD.
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watermusik (01/25/2007)
Thanks for you patience. I'm quite knowledgeable on many things - but not video ;-)
The only regative thing I've read about the Elura is the motor noise pickup. I emailed CANON about this and got a strange reply. QUOTE:
Please note, automatic audio gain will set the volume to capture any available noise. In a very quiet setting, this may be the sound of the camcorder motor, which could sound like a hum. To correct for this, provide some 'white' background noise.
(Alternatively, you may use an external microphone).
UNQUOTE
'Add noise to hide noise' As a classical musician, that sort of worries me as a solution!
Of course the other aspect of staying with the PV101 is that I still have 2 good Panasonic batteries and a charger! But if you are confident in the upgrade, then I'll give the Elura 100 a serious look. Who would you recommend to buy from with return rights in case it does not pan out? I was thinking that dbuys.com looked ok at $339.
thanks James
m/
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The only regative thing I've read about the Elura is the motor noise pickup. I emailed CANON about this and got a strange reply. QUOTE:
Please note, automatic audio gain will set the volume to capture any available noise. In a very quiet setting, this may be the sound of the camcorder motor, which could sound like a hum. To correct for this, provide some 'white' background noise.
(Alternatively, you may use an external microphone).
UNQUOTE
'Add noise to hide noise' As a classical musician, that sort of worries me as a solution!
Of course the other aspect of staying with the PV101 is that I still have 2 good Panasonic batteries and a charger! But if you are confident in the upgrade, then I'll give the Elura 100 a serious look. Who would you recommend to buy from with return rights in case it does not pan out? I was thinking that dbuys.com looked ok at $339.
thanks James
m/
Newby, looking for a Canon camcorder that takes still photos. (Cheryl — 11/03/2006)
I am looking for a camcorder that takes still photos. I have never owned a camcorder b-4 but want one that I will not have to upgrade from. I will be using it for general family use. Leaning toward Canon. I see more good reviews several different places for them. I would like to stay under $300. thanks
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by James DeRuvo (11/03/2006)
Canon camcorders are great. But let me ask you this, how often will you be taking video vs. still photos. If you're looking for the ability to do both, but tend to shoot more still photos, then why not buy a good digital still camera that has 640x480 movie capability?
I ask this because in my view, the ability to take stills in a video camera just isn't as good as we want it to be. And I have found that more often than not, I use the video feature in my still camera much more often than the other way around.
However, the Elura 100 does store pictures on a memory card and you can take stills while you are videoing a scene. So that is a handy feature. And it does give you widescreen options. But I am skeptical that it can take stills with the same quality as a digital still camera. Your mileage may vary though.
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I ask this because in my view, the ability to take stills in a video camera just isn't as good as we want it to be. And I have found that more often than not, I use the video feature in my still camera much more often than the other way around.
However, the Elura 100 does store pictures on a memory card and you can take stills while you are videoing a scene. So that is a handy feature. And it does give you widescreen options. But I am skeptical that it can take stills with the same quality as a digital still camera. Your mileage may vary though.
Cheryl (11/06/2006)
I did not know that cameras could take movies. So then what would be 2 good cameras to consider? And what are your top 2 picks of camcorder?
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by James DeRuvo (11/06/2006)
At the risk of being labled a Canon man, I'd have to recommend for both camera and camcorder. They're just good digital cameras for the price. And if you're a MAC user, you wont' run into any problems with compatibility problems. There are <a href="digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... good quality cameras</a>, but for my money, it's Canon.
Particularly, for Camcorders, I'd go with either the <a href="digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... or, better yet, the <a href="digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... 100</a>. I just love the ability to shoot widescreen.
As for digital cameras that shoot video? Well, my favs are <a href="digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... A640</a> or the <a href="digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... for point and shoots and the Digital Rebel Xti ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ) for SLRs.
As I said, there are other really good cameras. Still cameras you can go with just about any model recommended here and not be led astray.
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Particularly, for Camcorders, I'd go with either the <a href="digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... or, better yet, the <a href="digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... 100</a>. I just love the ability to shoot widescreen.
As for digital cameras that shoot video? Well, my favs are <a href="digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... A640</a> or the <a href="digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... for point and shoots and the Digital Rebel Xti ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ) for SLRs.
As I said, there are other really good cameras. Still cameras you can go with just about any model recommended here and not be led astray.
Mongo (11/07/2006)
My kids have a casio exilim S500, it takes pics and movies.
Does a great job in the still department, and the video, which I believe is up to 30 minutes, isn't as good as a camcorder. but it is good enough for daily fun.
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Does a great job in the still department, and the video, which I believe is up to 30 minutes, isn't as good as a camcorder. but it is good enough for daily fun.
Suggest me a handycam ! (Inam-ul-Haq — 11/05/2006)
Personally i m a SONY FAN, but if there is any other and better option available, pls do let me know.
I plan to buy a DVD cam, should i ? Pls suggest me which brand and model should i go for and why ?
The only and lonely reason to buy this handy cam is my newly born son !
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I plan to buy a DVD cam, should i ? Pls suggest me which brand and model should i go for and why ?
The only and lonely reason to buy this handy cam is my newly born son !
by James DeRuvo (11/06/2006)
First off, heartiest congratulations are in order! Having a child is the greatest adventure on earth. Now, as for your suggestions. I'm afraid I have to rain on your DVD parade a little. But with a caviat that if all you plan on doing is recording and watching what you shoot, then ignore what I'm about to suggest, but if you plan on editing your footage, then "let he who has ears, let him hear:"
While they are incredibly convenient and shoot good footage on DVD, if you plan on editing your footage, then using a DVD camcorder is not your best choice. This is largely due to the fact that DVD camcorders record in the compressed format of MPEG2, the format recognized by your dvd player. But when you want to move that footage over to your PC and edit it, you then must jump through several hoops. You must "rip" the dvd to your PC. Then, you must re-encode the footage into a more editable format. The footage will still be compressed, mind you, but editable. Then, when done editing and wanting to put back on DVD, you'll be re-encoding (and recompressing) that footage back to MPEG2 for burning to DVD. As such, the quality of your footage will take a noticable turn for the worse.
Therefore, I recommend staying with miniDV cameras ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) as a better format. They digitally record uncompressed and are the best camcorder option for editing.
Now, onto SONY. My main question would be, are you a MAC user? If so, I'd steer clear of SONY, even if you are a Sony fan. That's because Sony isn't very compatible with the OSX platform without a third party utility which can convert the footage to something your MAC will reconize. Yet another hoop.
Canon makes some great camcorders, like the Elura 100 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ), which have great features like image stabilization, widescreen 16:9, and good color that are both PC and Mac compatible.
Panasonic's
PV GS500 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) is a good 3 CCD camera.
However, if your a PC/Sony guy, then Sony's DCR HC96 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) gets good marks.
Regardless of what you settle on, allow me to also recommend you spend an extra hundred or so and pick up the Pure Digital Point and Shoot Camcorder ( puredigitalinc.com/products... ). That's because you're life isn't always going to happen when you have your camcorder with you. And this little pocket digital camcorder works great for those moments when you wish you had your camcorder with you. And the new upgraded model comes with 1 hour of recording time on it's built in flash drive and improved color.
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While they are incredibly convenient and shoot good footage on DVD, if you plan on editing your footage, then using a DVD camcorder is not your best choice. This is largely due to the fact that DVD camcorders record in the compressed format of MPEG2, the format recognized by your dvd player. But when you want to move that footage over to your PC and edit it, you then must jump through several hoops. You must "rip" the dvd to your PC. Then, you must re-encode the footage into a more editable format. The footage will still be compressed, mind you, but editable. Then, when done editing and wanting to put back on DVD, you'll be re-encoding (and recompressing) that footage back to MPEG2 for burning to DVD. As such, the quality of your footage will take a noticable turn for the worse.
Therefore, I recommend staying with miniDV cameras ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) as a better format. They digitally record uncompressed and are the best camcorder option for editing.
Now, onto SONY. My main question would be, are you a MAC user? If so, I'd steer clear of SONY, even if you are a Sony fan. That's because Sony isn't very compatible with the OSX platform without a third party utility which can convert the footage to something your MAC will reconize. Yet another hoop.
Canon makes some great camcorders, like the Elura 100 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ), which have great features like image stabilization, widescreen 16:9, and good color that are both PC and Mac compatible.
Panasonic's
PV GS500 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) is a good 3 CCD camera.
However, if your a PC/Sony guy, then Sony's DCR HC96 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) gets good marks.
Regardless of what you settle on, allow me to also recommend you spend an extra hundred or so and pick up the Pure Digital Point and Shoot Camcorder ( puredigitalinc.com/products... ). That's because you're life isn't always going to happen when you have your camcorder with you. And this little pocket digital camcorder works great for those moments when you wish you had your camcorder with you. And the new upgraded model comes with 1 hour of recording time on it's built in flash drive and improved color.
by James DeRuvo (09/01/2007)
Update: there is a slight change. The HC96 now has firewire capability thanks to the optional camera dock. That means it's got a better compatibility with MAC. So if you're a machead, this Sony isn't out of reach.
BTW - I noticed that you haven't marked any replies as the "best answer." Are you still looking for an answer? If so, I recommend you re-submit it on digitalcamera-hq.com so it will have a better chance of being noticed. These days it looks like most questions are being answered within a few days.
If you're happy with the answer you received, you can simply click on "Mark for best answer" bubble and it will close out the question. Thanks for posting it and Good luck!
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BTW - I noticed that you haven't marked any replies as the "best answer." Are you still looking for an answer? If so, I recommend you re-submit it on digitalcamera-hq.com so it will have a better chance of being noticed. These days it looks like most questions are being answered within a few days.
If you're happy with the answer you received, you can simply click on "Mark for best answer" bubble and it will close out the question. Thanks for posting it and Good luck!
Greetings all. I'm looking for a miniDV camcorder under $300 that has an input for an external microphone and the capability to convert analog to dig (Josh — 11/08/2006)
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by James DeRuvo (11/09/2006)
Analog to digital pass through is a standard feature in most camcorders these days. Canon's line I know for sure. Like the Elura 100 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). A very nice feature.
And you can use an external mic thought the mic terminal.
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And you can use an external mic thought the mic terminal.
Hi, I'm looking for a quick crash course on camcorders (Perla — 11/08/2006)
Need some help on what to look for before purchasing a camcorder, kinda like "camcorder for dummies". I'm just planning to use it for homevideo making, just the basics and may be a few added features. I need something of good quality and user friendly. My budget is between $250 and $400, any suggestions on models, or specifics on what to look for will be greatly appreciated. Thanks
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by James DeRuvo (11/09/2006)
Canon's Elura 100 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) or the DC 100 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) is a good place to start. Easy to use, good basics. Mac Compatible. Capture via firewire. Widescreen capability and image stabiliation are very goo dfeatures. And they're in your price range.
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by James DeRuvo (09/01/2007)
If you look in the upper right hand corner of this page, you will find a list of helpful guides. These cover topics such as
* High Definition Camcorders
* 7 Camcorder Pitfalls
* Camcorder Shopping Tips
* Digital Camcorder Formats
* Camcorders - Selecting Partners
* Online vs. Bricks and Mortar
A quick and informative read which should get you up to speed on what to look for in a good camcorder.
BTW, I noticed that you haven't marked any replies as the "best answer." Are you still looking for an answer? If so, I recommend you re-submit it on digitalcamera-hq.com so it will have a better chance of being noticed. These days it looks like most questions are being answered within a few days.
If you're happy with the answer you received, you can simply click on "Mark for best answer" bubble and it will close out the question. Thanks for posting it and Good luck!
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* High Definition Camcorders
* 7 Camcorder Pitfalls
* Camcorder Shopping Tips
* Digital Camcorder Formats
* Camcorders - Selecting Partners
* Online vs. Bricks and Mortar
A quick and informative read which should get you up to speed on what to look for in a good camcorder.
BTW, I noticed that you haven't marked any replies as the "best answer." Are you still looking for an answer? If so, I recommend you re-submit it on digitalcamera-hq.com so it will have a better chance of being noticed. These days it looks like most questions are being answered within a few days.
If you're happy with the answer you received, you can simply click on "Mark for best answer" bubble and it will close out the question. Thanks for posting it and Good luck!
how do you compare DCR- DVD405 against DCR-DVD8O3/E and DCR-DVD7/E. (S Pujari — 11/14/2006)
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by James DeRuvo (02/15/2007)
At the risk of sounding glib, I wouldn't. Two reasons. 1) SONY. Relies on proprietary technologies to trap you into their techno/revenue stream. This can be a hassle. 2) the DVD format. If you want to shoot video and then edit it to take out wasted scenes, add titles and music, etc., you're taking a hit in video quality by shooting native with a DVD camera ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). This is because the video on DVDs is encoded to MPEG2, a compressed format. It's great as an end of the line format or for the simple convenience of shooting and then watching it on TV, but not for shooting source footage. Likewise, hard drive based camcorders ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ), while convenient, tend to record in MPEG2 (only JVC gives you an option to record in AVI). This gives you the same problem. Additionally, you will also have to "re-encode" (also called demuxing) the footage into an editable format. It's a hassle for those of us who wish to edit our videos as a hobby.
Oppositely, miniDV cameras ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) are much more robust. Cameras like the Elura 100 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) are much better in format because once you've captured, edited and then burned to DVD, you aren't recompressing already compressed footage, like using the DVD camera would force you into.
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Oppositely, miniDV cameras ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) are much more robust. Cameras like the Elura 100 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) are much better in format because once you've captured, edited and then burned to DVD, you aren't recompressing already compressed footage, like using the DVD camera would force you into.
by James DeRuvo (09/01/2007)
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which is best for family use (more indoor than outdoor) - the GS250, GS300, GS500 or a sony Sony DCR HC96? (jak1 — 11/15/2006)
I'm trying to find the best camcorder for my purposes - i own a MAC G5, would like basic editing abilities (without much time investment) - price is not my biggest concern - i want the best bang for my buck! I'm a new mom and plan on using this camcorder for a long time!
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by James DeRuvo (12/07/2006)
Then I'd look elsewhere, like Canon's Elura 100 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). Sony's aren't very MAC friendly. Few, if any, are compatible.
Wheras, Canon's seem to be designed for integrating with mac. And since Macs come with editing softare and dvd software included, you want the best camera for it. Canon is the choice.
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Wheras, Canon's seem to be designed for integrating with mac. And since Macs come with editing softare and dvd software included, you want the best camera for it. Canon is the choice.
Piero Foto (03/20/2007)
Hi, Jules.
The Elura 100 is a the bigest bang for your buck!
You have probably already bought your camcorder by now, and if you did by the the Elura 100, You are very lucky. This camcorder is a hard gem to find right now. Its the only camcorder that I know of that has been selling way above list price. Up as much as $500. This camera as you may already know works great an a mac, I am having a great time with using mine on my Mac Pro Laptop.
If you are still looking, then the Panasonic GS500 is an excellent choice for a mac user on a G5. The GS500 is the Elura and much more with features and overall performace
If you need any further advice just ask, or select an answer to close off the question so others don't respond.
Thanks and have fun movie making!
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The Elura 100 is a the bigest bang for your buck!
You have probably already bought your camcorder by now, and if you did by the the Elura 100, You are very lucky. This camcorder is a hard gem to find right now. Its the only camcorder that I know of that has been selling way above list price. Up as much as $500. This camera as you may already know works great an a mac, I am having a great time with using mine on my Mac Pro Laptop.
If you are still looking, then the Panasonic GS500 is an excellent choice for a mac user on a G5. The GS500 is the Elura and much more with features and overall performace
If you need any further advice just ask, or select an answer to close off the question so others don't respond.
Thanks and have fun movie making!
Getting a new grandbaby and this challenged gran needs a camcorder - any advice on which kind to get under $650? (Sholthouston — 11/15/2006)
I am somewhat challenged with "gadgets". Do great with my computer and point and shoot camera though. Would really like to have a camcorder that I can easily pick up and take footage of the new - first grandchild. I would like to spend under $650 if possible. The old Sony HI8 was not user friendly for me.
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by James DeRuvo (11/15/2006)
The Canon 100 will work just fine, though it does have some whistles and bells that may cause you to be "gadget challenged." But the bottom line is, <u>all camcorders will</u>. With the exception of one that I think may be just for you.
Have you looked at the <a href="puredigitalinc.com/products... Digital Point and Shoot Camcorder</a>?
The latest model shoots up to 60 minutes worth of uncompressed video and transferring it to PC is as simple as plugging it using the on board USB jack. It even has built in software with which to transfer or even alter the video you create. It has auto focus, one touch button, built in microphone, LCD screen, 4x zoom and can easily fit in your hand. It's small, so it can fit in your pocket and runs on AA batteries. Great for capturing those fast moments of your grandchildren without having to dig out the camcorder.
The downside is, that it doesn't have a video light. But many models don't anymore and there are third party LCD lights which can handle that for you. The quality is good, shoots 640x480, and you can even plug the camera directly into your TV to watch. Just hit the "play" button and you're off to the races.
And the best part is, it's $179.00 ($129 for 30 min. version).
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Have you looked at the <a href="puredigitalinc.com/products... Digital Point and Shoot Camcorder</a>?
The latest model shoots up to 60 minutes worth of uncompressed video and transferring it to PC is as simple as plugging it using the on board USB jack. It even has built in software with which to transfer or even alter the video you create. It has auto focus, one touch button, built in microphone, LCD screen, 4x zoom and can easily fit in your hand. It's small, so it can fit in your pocket and runs on AA batteries. Great for capturing those fast moments of your grandchildren without having to dig out the camcorder.
The downside is, that it doesn't have a video light. But many models don't anymore and there are third party LCD lights which can handle that for you. The quality is good, shoots 640x480, and you can even plug the camera directly into your TV to watch. Just hit the "play" button and you're off to the races.
And the best part is, it's $179.00 ($129 for 30 min. version).
Susan (12/12/2006)
thanks for responding so quickly-the price is sure right thanks for the info
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by James DeRuvo (07/20/2007)
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If I buy the Canon Elura 100, can I easily hook up to my PC and edit my movies in Photoshop Elements or Movie Maker? (brendad1977 — 11/15/2006)
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by James DeRuvo (11/15/2006)
Yes. You can capture using firewire (if your PC has a firewire connection). But you can't use Photoshop Elements as that is a still photo editing software. What you probably mean is Adobe Premiere Elements. Which will work great. Ignore Movie Maker. It's a dog with fleas.
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sony DCR-DVD 105 or sony HC32, which is better (rcbergren — 11/16/2006)
Which camcorder would you recommend, the Sony DCR-DVD105 or Sony DCR HC32?
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by James DeRuvo (12/07/2006)
I guess this largely depends on what you're looking for in a camera. Do you want ultimate ease of shooting and then viewing? If so, then you're going to gravitate towards the DCR 105 as it shoots in DVD and once you finalize the disc, you can just pop it into a DVD player and enjoy the memories.
If, however, you want to edit your footage, then I'm not sure the SONY is the best choice at all as it isn't compatible with MACs, has proprietary memory stick storage, as well as their LANC terminal.
Canon's Elura 100 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) is a much better choice for editing footage, IMHO, and it also gives you the analog to digital pass through capaibility for editing older analog video footage and burning to DVD.
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If, however, you want to edit your footage, then I'm not sure the SONY is the best choice at all as it isn't compatible with MACs, has proprietary memory stick storage, as well as their LANC terminal.
Canon's Elura 100 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) is a much better choice for editing footage, IMHO, and it also gives you the analog to digital pass through capaibility for editing older analog video footage and burning to DVD.
rcbergren (12/07/2006)
James, thank you so much for responding to my question. My son and his wife are expecting their first child and need a camcorder, of which I know little. Again thank you for your help.
Renee
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Renee
by James DeRuvo (07/20/2007)
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WHICH DVD CAMCORDER SHOOTS STILLS ON A REMOVABLE MEDIA CARD? (SHERRYWAKE — 11/17/2006)
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by James DeRuvo (11/20/2006)
The Elura ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) does.
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by James DeRuvo (09/01/2007)
Samsung camcorders also record to SD cards. I believe that Panasonic has this as well. JVC. It's almost becoming standard. Although most just let you use it for still shots. Some give you the option to shoot video directly to it. I'm betting that as SD cards become larger, flash replaces hard drives, DVDs and miniDV tapes altogether.
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I need a memory card for my new Elura 100...should I go 1 GB or 2 GB? Or, something else? Anything specific I should know? Thanks (carolcamera — 11/18/2006)
I just want to be able to shoot decent length videos for my family and transfer them to the computer. :)
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by James DeRuvo (11/20/2006)
I am not sure that the Elura is SDHC (Secure Digital High Capacity) compatible. As such, I think you're limit is 2GB on the model. Which is not bad. But be advised that shooting in Memory Card mode will shoot in "Motion JPEG" and not uncompressed regular video. Which would be fine for sharing small clips via email, etc. But if you plan on doing any editing and then burning them to DVD, using the Memory Card Mode is not the way to go. You're better off just capturing the miniDV footage using your editing software or a free capture utility called WinDV.
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by James DeRuvo (09/01/2007)
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Piero Foto (10/03/2007)
Either memory card is fine for the Elura 100. I would not go less than 1GB, but 2GB would be recommended if you plan to shoot more MJPEG footage. For stills, 1GB is more than enough.
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Is the Canon Elura 100 compatable with Windows XP? What type of memory card will I need for 2 hours of recording? (Gary72 — 11/19/2006)
I have Kodak EasyShare software already installed on my computer and was wondering if there are any other camcorders that use that same software?
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by James DeRuvo (11/20/2006)
Kodak's Easyshare Software is for digital still cameras, not video camcorders. It's also bloatware. Not impressed with it. For accessing the images on the Memory Card, I'd recommend a memory card reader and <a href="picasa.com">Picasa 2 by Google</a>.
The Elura should has no trouble being compatible with Windows at all. Downside is, that shooting in Memory Card Mode uses the Motion JPEG encoding. Which is fine for sharing via email small video clips, but any serious videotaping and editing should keep shooting video in MiniDV.
As for what type of memory card, you're looking at the 2GB SD cards max as I don't believe the Elura is SDHC (secure digital high capacity) compatible.
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The Elura should has no trouble being compatible with Windows at all. Downside is, that shooting in Memory Card Mode uses the Motion JPEG encoding. Which is fine for sharing via email small video clips, but any serious videotaping and editing should keep shooting video in MiniDV.
As for what type of memory card, you're looking at the 2GB SD cards max as I don't believe the Elura is SDHC (secure digital high capacity) compatible.
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Good camcorder with optical zoom for wildlife viewing. (jane — 11/19/2006)
Other high use events would be family gatherings. I was hoping I could "hook up" to our Sony LCD 50" tv for viewing. After some research I'm confused over what brand/model is best. It seems that the camcorders which record on mini DVD's might not necessarily play on our DVD player. And the ones that use mini DV we would have to hook up to a computer and burn on a DVD in order to view on the televison. Also, I read that the video on some camcorders is less than desireable when viewed on a larger sized television. Please, please help. Thank you!
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by James DeRuvo (11/27/2006)
You shouldn'thave any trouble connecting a miniDV camcorder to a television set as long as it has analog audio/video jacks or SVideo to connect to. And burning to a DVD via a computer isn't as difficult as you may think. In fact, it's advantageous since it allows you to edit out unwanted scenes, add music, titles, etc. Additionally, the Elura 100 has widescreen shooting which is excfellent for wildlife shooting.
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Piero Foto (12/31/2006)
Since the Elura 100 has a nice optical zoom of 20x, true wide screen recording and that it can be plugged in easily to your 50" screen TV, the Elura 100 is the way to go for the money. Plus, mini DV tapes will record digital data information with out compression, so the picture quality will hold better together for when transferring to DVD or viewing straight to a large screen TV from the DV camcorder.
You need to keep in mind that optical zoom and digital zoom are two different breeds when it comes to how close you can zoom in on your subject. The optical zoom is the real ma-coy, because the optical zoom ratio is a true lens zoom that determines how wide and how close a lens can go. The digital zoom is a marketing gimmick and I would stay completely away from it. What a digital zoom does is, it crops the video image and magnifies it. To give you an idea of the quality to expect from a digital zoom, just take a thumbnail image, lets say from a web site, then blow it up real large on your computer screen. The quality is so bad the picture pixels are the size of marbles or golf balls.
Now, if a 20x optical zoom is not quite enough for your wild life shooting, then the next step is to turn the Elura 100 in to a 40x to 100x optical zoom lens. "Thats right". it is a very simple installation of mounting an adapter(conversion) lens to the existing Elura lens. There are 2x, to 5x tele-converter lenses on the market that will fit the Elura 100. 2x tele-converter means that a 20x optical lens would double to a 40x optical and a 3x tele-converter will triple the optical to 60x and so on.
The image stabilization is really going help more when you are zoomed in, but with tele-converters zoomed in at more than 20x its not going to cut it, so I would strongly recommend a mono-pod(one leg tripod) to stabilize any camera movement, especially critical for wild life.
There are other camcorder choices that will give you even higher quality results, but you are also looking of spending two-three times the cost of the Elura 100 and then you will need to deal with other complicated expensive issues related to higher end quality, like upgrading your entertainment system and computer to be evenly compatible with the video source. Thats why the Elura 100 is one of the best all around mainstream consumer DV cameras on the market.
I know that you post it this question over a month ago, but if any this information is helpful to you or anyone else, then it was worth my time.
Later!
Piero Foto
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You need to keep in mind that optical zoom and digital zoom are two different breeds when it comes to how close you can zoom in on your subject. The optical zoom is the real ma-coy, because the optical zoom ratio is a true lens zoom that determines how wide and how close a lens can go. The digital zoom is a marketing gimmick and I would stay completely away from it. What a digital zoom does is, it crops the video image and magnifies it. To give you an idea of the quality to expect from a digital zoom, just take a thumbnail image, lets say from a web site, then blow it up real large on your computer screen. The quality is so bad the picture pixels are the size of marbles or golf balls.
Now, if a 20x optical zoom is not quite enough for your wild life shooting, then the next step is to turn the Elura 100 in to a 40x to 100x optical zoom lens. "Thats right". it is a very simple installation of mounting an adapter(conversion) lens to the existing Elura lens. There are 2x, to 5x tele-converter lenses on the market that will fit the Elura 100. 2x tele-converter means that a 20x optical lens would double to a 40x optical and a 3x tele-converter will triple the optical to 60x and so on.
The image stabilization is really going help more when you are zoomed in, but with tele-converters zoomed in at more than 20x its not going to cut it, so I would strongly recommend a mono-pod(one leg tripod) to stabilize any camera movement, especially critical for wild life.
There are other camcorder choices that will give you even higher quality results, but you are also looking of spending two-three times the cost of the Elura 100 and then you will need to deal with other complicated expensive issues related to higher end quality, like upgrading your entertainment system and computer to be evenly compatible with the video source. Thats why the Elura 100 is one of the best all around mainstream consumer DV cameras on the market.
I know that you post it this question over a month ago, but if any this information is helpful to you or anyone else, then it was worth my time.
Later!
Piero Foto
I plan on video taping softball pitching and hitting also golf swings. (coach2538 — 11/23/2006)
I want to be able to view in slow motion and it most be user friendly for instand review. Please recommend a camcorder. I prefer DVD format.
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by James DeRuvo (11/24/2006)
You'll want a camera which will give you high shutter speeds. And I know you prefer dvd camcorders, but that shoots in MPEG2, which is a compressed format. You're much better off shooting uncompressed in miniDV and then transferring onto your PC for editing. But your mileage may vary. Just look for high shutter speeds and "sports" modes. My recommendation is the Canon line, the Elura 100 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) in particular.
It has image stabilization, wifescreen, 1.33 MP, adjustable exposures and good low light capability.
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It has image stabilization, wifescreen, 1.33 MP, adjustable exposures and good low light capability.
coach2538 (11/25/2006)
Thanks for your time.
The most important thing in need the camera for is to play back a very slow motion to analyze golf and softball swings.
I was thinking about splurging on the Sony 405 dvd version.
It has a Max shutter speed of 4000 1/f versus the Canon Elura 100 of 2000 1/f.
Would the faster shutter speed of the Sony off set shooting in MPEG2 for playing back is slow motion?
Thanks for all your help.
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The most important thing in need the camera for is to play back a very slow motion to analyze golf and softball swings.
I was thinking about splurging on the Sony 405 dvd version.
It has a Max shutter speed of 4000 1/f versus the Canon Elura 100 of 2000 1/f.
Would the faster shutter speed of the Sony off set shooting in MPEG2 for playing back is slow motion?
Thanks for all your help.
by James DeRuvo (11/26/2006)
Not really. The compression is compression. Faster Shutter speeds are always good for that kind of thing. The faster the better. It should work for your purposes. But if you plan on doing ANY editing at all, you'll find more hassle than convenience when it comes to reencoding, etc.
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Golf Nut (11/29/2006)
Just curious. I was told that shutter speed is definately important and for golf analysis you need at least 1/2000.
Here's my question. I thought that the key to watch sports action in slow motion was frames/second recorded. The Elura is spec'd at 30 frames/second. Professional models can record at 60 frames/second but it comes at quite a price tag. Am I lost here regarding these specifications?
I was also thinking about the Elura 100 as well. What software are you using on your desktop/laptop to analyze the swing?
Thanks,
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Here's my question. I thought that the key to watch sports action in slow motion was frames/second recorded. The Elura is spec'd at 30 frames/second. Professional models can record at 60 frames/second but it comes at quite a price tag. Am I lost here regarding these specifications?
I was also thinking about the Elura 100 as well. What software are you using on your desktop/laptop to analyze the swing?
Thanks,
coach2538 (11/29/2006)
I have not purchased a video camera or associated software yet.
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by James DeRuvo (11/29/2006)
Shooting at faster frames per second can help in that regard, but it also creates a natural slow motion. If you can afford it, sure. If not, shooting at a high shutter speed will enable you to get crisper images of the action which can help in frame by frame analysis.
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softball dad (04/10/2008)
Is there a computer viewing program(software) that can slow any video camera down so that you can watch the video in slow motion.
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what is the best camera for shooting sports highlights (epen86 — 11/24/2006)
i am looking to purchase a camcorder to shoot sports highlights,what are best cameras for fast action video?
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by James DeRuvo (11/26/2006)
The Canon Elura ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) has a shutter speed of 1/2000, that's pretty good. Although I hear that Panasonic has a model that shoots 1/4k. The faster the better for frame by frame. But if that isn't an issue, the Elura works well, and with a widescreen capability it makes for good sports video.
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Can videos recorded onto minidv tapes be transfered to a pc? (DBZCHRIS — 11/25/2006)
I plan on getting the canon elura 100 for christmas which is in minidv format. I want to know if the stuff i record on the minidv tapes will be able to be tranfered to my computer.
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by James DeRuvo (11/26/2006)
Absolutely. What you'll need is a firewire card for your computer (about $10) if it doesn't already have one. If Mac, you're gold. Then, you'll need editing software. If Mac, you have iMovie - great app. If PC - recommend Adobe Premiere Elements about $99.00. Also recommend WinDV as a great capture utility - free. Google ( google.com/search?q=windv&a... )
is your friend. This is a simple utility which will enable you to capture your video with a click of your mouse and save it.
Then, if you choose to burn to DVD, recommend NERO, although I believe that Adobe Premiere Elements has a utility, but don't quote me on that. If MAC, you have iDVD already installed so you're gold there too.
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is your friend. This is a simple utility which will enable you to capture your video with a click of your mouse and save it.
Then, if you choose to burn to DVD, recommend NERO, although I believe that Adobe Premiere Elements has a utility, but don't quote me on that. If MAC, you have iDVD already installed so you're gold there too.
which camcorder to buy? (kath9267 — 11/28/2006)
Help! Need camcorder for granchildren and social functions inside and outside. I keep reading reviews and am totally confused. Want small,easy,easy TV and DVD. Want light and audio to be good(that seems to be complaint of so many) We do have HDTV. Do I need Firewall,front mic, Tapes or not. Please help, Thanks, Kathryn Would like to spend no more than $500
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by James DeRuvo (12/07/2006)
If I were to use a DVD camera, the Canon DC40 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) catches my eye. It does fall on the high end of your budget if you look around for prices and you can find some at the link above. Image stabilization, weighs in at just north of a pound, so it's very light. Has a built in digital still feature with Pictbridge print share capability. It also records in Dolby, which is cool. Widescreen. Ultra bright video light and low light capability. And a 4.3 MP CCD.
You only need firewire (I think that's what you meant as firewalls are for protecting computers) if you're planning on editing your video. If that's the case, then you don't want DVD, you want miniDV. And in that case, I'd go with the Elura 100. ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) Much of the same features including analog to digital pass through, so you can capture old VHS home movies and get them on DVD. It's also MAC compatible if you're a machead.
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You only need firewire (I think that's what you meant as firewalls are for protecting computers) if you're planning on editing your video. If that's the case, then you don't want DVD, you want miniDV. And in that case, I'd go with the Elura 100. ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) Much of the same features including analog to digital pass through, so you can capture old VHS home movies and get them on DVD. It's also MAC compatible if you're a machead.
by James DeRuvo (09/03/2007)
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Best option for a camcorder if one doesn't expect to do much if any editing, wants ease in shooting then watching? (meb52 — 12/02/2006)
This is a present for a daughter who has a MAC laptop. Ease in watching will be key. Looking to spend $300-400. NOt clear on whether you can play back via DVD/TV if using Mini DV format and not recording directly to DVD.
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by James DeRuvo (12/04/2006)
Well, if ease of use is what you're looking for, then DVD Camcorders ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) are about as easy as it gets. And since there's no editing planned, it doesn't really matter what computer one has.
If, however, she is planning on doing any kind of editing with her MAC and utilizing the great utilities they came with via ILife (iMovie, iDVD, etc), then a miniDV camera is your best bet and Canon ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) is, IMHO, the most compatible with that platform. I recommend the Elura 100 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). Highly ranked, editor's choice, and not only in your price range, but under it.
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If, however, she is planning on doing any kind of editing with her MAC and utilizing the great utilities they came with via ILife (iMovie, iDVD, etc), then a miniDV camera is your best bet and Canon ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) is, IMHO, the most compatible with that platform. I recommend the Elura 100 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). Highly ranked, editor's choice, and not only in your price range, but under it.
by James DeRuvo (08/08/2007)
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Is it very difficult to download videos from Canon Eulora 100 into a computer for editing?Do I need to purchase any other S/W or cables? (ron — 12/06/2006)
I am planning to by a Canon Elura 100, my major concern is downloading the videos for editing in my laptop. I have heard that it is very difficult to do that in a Canon. Is it true? The other camera I was thinking was Sony HC 46.
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by James DeRuvo (12/07/2006)
You'll need a firewire cable and a firewire card if your PC doesn't already have one. Then it's simply a matter of hooking it up and then using the capture utility in your editing program to get the footage in. It's relatively straight forward.
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by James DeRuvo (09/03/2007)
What you need to do is capture the footage. You can use your editor for this purpose.
It's a simple matter of connecting the computer, going into your editor and selecting the
capture option. Then press play on your camcorder, capture in your software and you're off
to the races.
However, the best utility I have found for this purpose is WinDV ( windv.mourek.cz/ ). It's free. And not only can you capture with it without dropping a frame, but thanks to the firewire interface, you can control your camcorder directly! That's the way I would do it. Then import it into your editor
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It's a simple matter of connecting the computer, going into your editor and selecting the
capture option. Then press play on your camcorder, capture in your software and you're off
to the races.
However, the best utility I have found for this purpose is WinDV ( windv.mourek.cz/ ). It's free. And not only can you capture with it without dropping a frame, but thanks to the firewire interface, you can control your camcorder directly! That's the way I would do it. Then import it into your editor
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I want a camcorder to make home videos, Help! (homevideo — 12/10/2006)
I am looking for my first digital camcorder to record, edit, and just play and have fun with. It has to be able to work indoors with good lighting, because my babies are still young. I can record now with my digital camera, and its great. I can make movies from that, but I want to upgrade to a digital camcorder for christmas and recitals, and just loosing a tooth and stuff like that. I have to be able to save, edit and stuff like that. Any suggestions on what to buy and what NOT to buy would be great. I want to stay under the 500.00 limit. Thanks in advance to the advice.
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by James DeRuvo (12/11/2006)
I'd have to give the nod to the <a href="digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... Elura 100</a>. Sports mode. 1/2000 shutter. Image stabilization. Widescreen. And Analog to digital pass through for transfering those old VHS home movies to DVD. That's where I'd go. And there's some good deals in the link above.
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by James DeRuvo (09/03/2007)
Sadly, the Elura has been discontinued. However, Canon's ZR800 line has many of the same features, absent the analog to digital pass through which Canon seems to have dumped. There's also the SONY HC96 which, with it's optional camera dock, can make a firewire connection which is great for both MAC and PC.
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What would be a good camcorder to record our 7 month old baby and to record golf swings? (mrichards — 12/11/2006)
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by James DeRuvo (12/11/2006)
I'd have to give the nod to the Canon Elura 100 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). Sports mode. 1/2000 shutter. Image stabilization. Widescreen. And Analog to digital pass through for transfering those old VHS home movies to DVD. That's where I'd go. And there's some good deals in the link above.
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mini camcorder easy to use 250.00 under to buy? (sharf4 — 12/11/2006)
first time buyer/user of camcorder new to pcs need help finding the best camcorder available for 250.00 or under not ver technologically skilled person used for videos of grandkids and vacations mostly just simple to use easy to hook into computer to make dvd small light weight good for low light situations
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by James DeRuvo (12/11/2006)
There's not much under $250.00 sadly. Just north of that are two very good and highly rated camcorders - The Canon Elura 100 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) and the Canon ZR700 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). I give the edge to the Elura here because for the additional $25 difference, you get twice the resolution. Both also have the analog to digital pass through which enables you to transfer those VHS home movies into your computer for editing and burning to DVD. A nice feature. Both are simple to use and compatible with both PC and MAC. And both have a night shooting feature. But my experience has always been that a good video light source is essential no matter what. And there are many LED camera lights on the market which light up nicely, but sadly not from a distance.
However, if you are solid under $250.00, I'd have to recommend the Pure Digital Point and Shoot Camcorder for $129.00. It shoots up to 60 minutes on it's flash drive, has good color and sound and plugs directly into your USB port for transferring and editing of the footage. And for that price, you can buy two and keep one with you at all times. And lightweight? How about it fits in the palm of your hand and weighs less than 8 oz.! Worth looking into.
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However, if you are solid under $250.00, I'd have to recommend the Pure Digital Point and Shoot Camcorder for $129.00. It shoots up to 60 minutes on it's flash drive, has good color and sound and plugs directly into your USB port for transferring and editing of the footage. And for that price, you can buy two and keep one with you at all times. And lightweight? How about it fits in the palm of your hand and weighs less than 8 oz.! Worth looking into.
by James DeRuvo (09/03/2007)
Just an update. Both the Elura and the ZR700 have been discontinued. However, Canon's affordble models are the ZR800 line which have many of the same features, although it seems that Canon has decided to dump the analog to digital pass through feature which is a tragedy, IMHO.
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can i use this camera to broadcast live onto the internet? (c4jurgen — 12/14/2006)
i want to broadcast a live (not prerecorded) music event over the internet through a website. can i use a camcorder such as this one to capture the visual images and then some kind of analogue to digital interface to capture the audio?
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by James DeRuvo (12/14/2006)
I think you're in good shape with the GS500. I came across a guitar teacher who teaches bass lessons all around the world live over the internet using the GS500.
Another option may be the Canon Elura 100 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ), which also has the analog to digital pass-through for this feature.
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Another option may be the Canon Elura 100 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ), which also has the analog to digital pass-through for this feature.
Sherm (12/18/2006)
Yes. The GS500 has a Webcam mode and does a pretty good job of it.
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Ron (07/09/2007)
How can i broadcast from the camera to the PC without wires ?
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by James DeRuvo (07/17/2007)
There may be a wireless solution which would plug into the analog ports.
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I am stuck between the Sony DCR DVD205 and the Canon DC40... any help? (newgrandma — 12/14/2006)
I am looking for a camcorder for my daughter and son-in-law for Christmas so they can take videos of our first grandchild. They're not really techies, but my daughter does well with her digital camera editing so I figured a dvd camcorder would give her the most flexibility. I don't want to skimp on camera, but want the best quality shots with the most ease. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks
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by James DeRuvo (12/21/2006)
Actually, it won't. Sure, it would be convenient, but a DVD camera poses more problems than it's worth if you plan on doing editing. If you want to shoot video and then edit it to take out wasted scene, add titles and music, etc., you're taking a hit in video quality by shooting native with a DVD camera. This is because the video on DVDs is encoded to MPEG2, a compressed format. It's great as an end of the line format, but not for the source.
As such, miniDV cameras ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ), like the Elura 100 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) are much better in format because once you've captured, edited and then burned to DVD, you aren't recompressing already compressed footage, like using the DVD camera would force you into.
Canon does give you the the ability to move your footage over to PC for editing using Roxio's MyDVD Software for Canon. To be honest, I'm not a big fan of MyDVD. It's historically had it's issues.
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As such, miniDV cameras ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ), like the Elura 100 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) are much better in format because once you've captured, edited and then burned to DVD, you aren't recompressing already compressed footage, like using the DVD camera would force you into.
Canon does give you the the ability to move your footage over to PC for editing using Roxio's MyDVD Software for Canon. To be honest, I'm not a big fan of MyDVD. It's historically had it's issues.
newgrandma (12/21/2006)
Thank you James - I had already looked at some of your other answers to questions and ended up buying the elura 100 - your answer makes me doubly sure. Have a super holiday - and thank you for taking the time to answer questions for people like myself!
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by James DeRuvo (12/21/2006)
That's what we're here for, Deb. Once you've had a chance to shoot around with it, I'm sure we'd all appreciate a report on how you like it.
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which software can I use for the elura 100 to capture video from the usb port? (randhir79 — 12/15/2006)
i can not transfer video to my pc via usb.I do not have an fire wire port.
Can someone pl'se help me with this?
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Can someone pl'se help me with this?
by James DeRuvo (12/15/2006)
While you do need software to capture your video to a PC (your editing software will have a capture utility - I can also recommend WinDV), the Elura is specifically designed to capture via Firewire. All is not lost however. You can buy a firewire card for a desktop for about $10-20 and they are easy to install. Or, if you have a laptop, a Fireiwire PCMCIA card is about $40 and slides in easily to the PCMCIA slot. Then you're ready to go.
Otherwise, you need to get something like Pinnacle's Studio Movie Box which will enable you to connect your Elura to it via RCA and SVideo cables and then into your PC via USB. Downside is that it will be analog and not digital. :(
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Otherwise, you need to get something like Pinnacle's Studio Movie Box which will enable you to connect your Elura to it via RCA and SVideo cables and then into your PC via USB. Downside is that it will be analog and not digital. :(
by James DeRuvo (07/17/2007)
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I am looking for a camcorder I can play my old tapes on and transfer to my computer dvd (donnac1111 — 12/16/2006)
I have a sony 8 camare and need to makedvd on my computer I wouldlike to buy a camara that I can do that with
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by James DeRuvo (12/21/2006)
I suggest either Canon's Elura 100 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) or the ZR700 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). Both have the "analog to digital pass through" feature which allows you to daisy chain your Sony 8 through the Canon using cables and then capturing directly into your PC via firewire. Very useful feature. Click on the links above for great prices.
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Piero Foto (02/07/2007)
The Canon Elura 100 would a good choice.
The Elura 100 is a great choice for movie editing on MAC or PC. It uses mini DV tapes a preferred choice by professionals because tapes does do not compress the video data information which in turn produces the best quality for transfers or making DVD's and works like a charm with movie editing software. The Elura 100 has digital dubbing capabilities so you can transfer your VHS/Video 8 tape collection to DVD or copy them on mini DV tapes to turn your old footage into digital. It also has audio dubbing sound capabilities, and can transfer audio and video from other digital devices. The money you can save from these dubbing features alone will more than pay for the Elura 100.
The Canon Elura 100 is action packed with tons of features and functions, more than your average user will ever use. Its an incredible consumer DV camcorder for the money. Its very versatile and designed for just about any shooting situation. The Elura 100 has an impressive picture quality and true wide screen recording.
Happy Shopping!
Piero Foto
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The Elura 100 is a great choice for movie editing on MAC or PC. It uses mini DV tapes a preferred choice by professionals because tapes does do not compress the video data information which in turn produces the best quality for transfers or making DVD's and works like a charm with movie editing software. The Elura 100 has digital dubbing capabilities so you can transfer your VHS/Video 8 tape collection to DVD or copy them on mini DV tapes to turn your old footage into digital. It also has audio dubbing sound capabilities, and can transfer audio and video from other digital devices. The money you can save from these dubbing features alone will more than pay for the Elura 100.
The Canon Elura 100 is action packed with tons of features and functions, more than your average user will ever use. Its an incredible consumer DV camcorder for the money. Its very versatile and designed for just about any shooting situation. The Elura 100 has an impressive picture quality and true wide screen recording.
Happy Shopping!
Piero Foto
Rich Watson (02/07/2007)
Sony did produce a Digital8 camcorder (it had '480' in the model) which would read old 8mm tapes, and could record them digitally, or pass them thru like James described.
But these much-newer models from Canon are smaller, and use smaller tapes. And they are in the same price ballpark. So I sure wouldn't go back to an old technology, I would go ahead to the miniDV tape format.
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But these much-newer models from Canon are smaller, and use smaller tapes. And they are in the same price ballpark. So I sure wouldn't go back to an old technology, I would go ahead to the miniDV tape format.
what brands are the simplest to use? (timv57 — 12/16/2006)
I'm thinking of buying a camcorder for my wife for Christmas, and want one that will be easy for her to use
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by James DeRuvo (12/21/2006)
Consumer grade camcorders are really easy to use these days for basic recording. Essentially point and hit the record button is all you need to do. The differences and difficulties come out when trying to use the "whistles and bells."
It really comes down to what she's going to use it for. If it's simply capturing a moment like you would a point and shoot still camera, then I'd point you to the Pure Digital Point and Shoot Camcorder. Its about $140, fits in her purse and can record up to 60 minutes of full screen video on it's flash drive. YOu can then move it over to your PC by plugging it in with it's built-in USB. The burn to dvd or upload/share via email.
However, if she's going to get serious with editing first, then burning to dvd, etc. Then doing for something like the Canon Elura 100 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) makes a good option.
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It really comes down to what she's going to use it for. If it's simply capturing a moment like you would a point and shoot still camera, then I'd point you to the Pure Digital Point and Shoot Camcorder. Its about $140, fits in her purse and can record up to 60 minutes of full screen video on it's flash drive. YOu can then move it over to your PC by plugging it in with it's built-in USB. The burn to dvd or upload/share via email.
However, if she's going to get serious with editing first, then burning to dvd, etc. Then doing for something like the Canon Elura 100 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) makes a good option.
by James DeRuvo (09/03/2007)
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What tapeless camcorder doesn't stall the video when taking a still? (eradani — 12/17/2006)
I just got the HD1A, and would be perfectly happy with it but for the fact that when you take a still while taping it stalls the video for 2 seconds while it's writing the image. I don't know why I never saw this mentioned anywhere and it drives me absolutely nuts. I want a hybrid so I can take pictures while I video. I'm more a camera person than video, but want video capability for my baby. The lowlight of the HD1A is about as low as I can stand (reminds me very much of my Nikon Coolpix 5700, though the HD1A is actually easier to adjust to get decent footage). I hate tapes, so DVD, media card, or hd. I have a Mac and PC (and Win on the Mac, love the irony there), but would much rather use the Mac (and I know Sonys have issues with Macs). Any insight would be most appreciated.
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by James DeRuvo (01/23/2007)
Well, Anna, if you are planning to do any editing, you'll probably grow to hate tapeless video more than you do tapes. This is largely because most hard drive based and dvd camcorders record in MPEG2.
If you want to shoot video and then edit it to take out wasted scenes, add titles and music, etc., you're taking a hit in video quality by shooting native with a DVD camera ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). This is because the video on DVDs is encoded to MPEG2, a compressed format. It's great as an end of the line format, but not for shooting source footage. Likewise, hard drive based camcorders ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ), while convenient, tend to record in MPEG2 (only JVC's Everio line gives you an option to record in AVI). This gives you the same problem. Additionally, you will also have to "re-encode" (also called demuxing) the footage into an editable format. It's a hassle for those of us who wish to edit our videos as a hobby.
And Media Card camcorders usually shoot in MPEG4, yet another compressed format.
Oppositely, miniDV cameras ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) are much more robust. Cameras like the Elura 100 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) are much better in format because once you've captured, edited and then burned to DVD, you aren't recompressing already compressed footage, like using the DVD camera would force you into.
So as much as you don't care for tape based camcorders, they're still the best bet for video editing. IMHO. Not what you wanted to hear, I'm sure. But at least some, like the Canon Elura ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) also shoot still shots on a separate SD card.
It also has widescreen ability, image stabilization, recording in Dolby, and a nifty little feature called analog to digital pass through, which enables you to take those home movies you have on VHS and capture them onto your PC by daisy chaining your VCR through the camera and into the PC via firewire. Then you can edit and burn to DVD as well. Great feature.
HD variant would be the HV10 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ).
And it's VERY compatible with that MAC of yours.
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If you want to shoot video and then edit it to take out wasted scenes, add titles and music, etc., you're taking a hit in video quality by shooting native with a DVD camera ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). This is because the video on DVDs is encoded to MPEG2, a compressed format. It's great as an end of the line format, but not for shooting source footage. Likewise, hard drive based camcorders ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ), while convenient, tend to record in MPEG2 (only JVC's Everio line gives you an option to record in AVI). This gives you the same problem. Additionally, you will also have to "re-encode" (also called demuxing) the footage into an editable format. It's a hassle for those of us who wish to edit our videos as a hobby.
And Media Card camcorders usually shoot in MPEG4, yet another compressed format.
Oppositely, miniDV cameras ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) are much more robust. Cameras like the Elura 100 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) are much better in format because once you've captured, edited and then burned to DVD, you aren't recompressing already compressed footage, like using the DVD camera would force you into.
So as much as you don't care for tape based camcorders, they're still the best bet for video editing. IMHO. Not what you wanted to hear, I'm sure. But at least some, like the Canon Elura ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) also shoot still shots on a separate SD card.
It also has widescreen ability, image stabilization, recording in Dolby, and a nifty little feature called analog to digital pass through, which enables you to take those home movies you have on VHS and capture them onto your PC by daisy chaining your VCR through the camera and into the PC via firewire. Then you can edit and burn to DVD as well. Great feature.
HD variant would be the HV10 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ).
And it's VERY compatible with that MAC of yours.
by James DeRuvo (09/04/2007)
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Best camcorder, under $600, for editing movies? Clear audio is a must. (jagger — 12/17/2006)
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by James DeRuvo (01/11/2007)
My first question is ... PC or MAC. There is a reason for this as camcorders like the SONY line can have compatibility problems with the MAC OS without a third party application to bridge the gap. I hear that SONY and Apple are working on it, however.
Avoiding DVD and Hard Drive based camcorders is also key here.
If you want to shoot video and then edit it to take out wasted scene, add titles and music, etc., you're taking a hit in video quality by shooting native with a DVD camera. This is because the video on DVDs is encoded to MPEG2, a compressed format. It's great as an end of the line format, but not for the source. As such, miniDV cameras, like the Elura 100 are much better in format because once you've captured, edited and then burned to DVD, you aren't recompressing already compressed footage, like using the DVD camera would force you into.
The only exception to this rule is the JVC Everio ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) line of hard drive camcorders as they give you the option of recording in AVI.
This leaves you with miniDV ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) as still the best option. Canon is really good for both MAC and PC. Particularly the Everio 100 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). It has widescreen ability, image stabilization, recording in Dolby, and a nifty little feature called analog to digital pass through, which enables you to take those home movies you have on VHS and capture them onto your PC by daisy chaining your VCR through the camera and into the PC via firewire. Then you can edit and burn to DVD as well. Great feature.
Some will argue that due to the design, that the Elura can record noise from it's mechanism being so close to where the microphone is placed. My research suggests that this isn't necessarily a design flaw as many just don't get the noise issue on their videos while some complain they do. I'm not convinced it's a design wide issue and may be due to faulty individual units that need to be repaired or replaced or some other issue. Still, it's a good solid camera and there are great prices on the link above.
There's also the and the ZR700 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) or ZR500.
And Canon has announced newer models. So stay tuned.
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Avoiding DVD and Hard Drive based camcorders is also key here.
If you want to shoot video and then edit it to take out wasted scene, add titles and music, etc., you're taking a hit in video quality by shooting native with a DVD camera. This is because the video on DVDs is encoded to MPEG2, a compressed format. It's great as an end of the line format, but not for the source. As such, miniDV cameras, like the Elura 100 are much better in format because once you've captured, edited and then burned to DVD, you aren't recompressing already compressed footage, like using the DVD camera would force you into.
The only exception to this rule is the JVC Everio ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) line of hard drive camcorders as they give you the option of recording in AVI.
This leaves you with miniDV ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) as still the best option. Canon is really good for both MAC and PC. Particularly the Everio 100 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). It has widescreen ability, image stabilization, recording in Dolby, and a nifty little feature called analog to digital pass through, which enables you to take those home movies you have on VHS and capture them onto your PC by daisy chaining your VCR through the camera and into the PC via firewire. Then you can edit and burn to DVD as well. Great feature.
Some will argue that due to the design, that the Elura can record noise from it's mechanism being so close to where the microphone is placed. My research suggests that this isn't necessarily a design flaw as many just don't get the noise issue on their videos while some complain they do. I'm not convinced it's a design wide issue and may be due to faulty individual units that need to be repaired or replaced or some other issue. Still, it's a good solid camera and there are great prices on the link above.
There's also the and the ZR700 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) or ZR500.
And Canon has announced newer models. So stay tuned.
Piero Foto (03/07/2007)
Hi, Jagger.
Since your question is still open and it seems that you are still in search of more advice, then in addition to and supporting James response here is mine.
Sony, Canon, JVC, Panasonic are all good top competeive brands in camcorders. What ever brand you choose, mini DV tape camcorders is the choice for video editing.
There are three types of DV camcorders available on the consumer market.
1)Mini DV tape camcorder 2)Mini DVD disc camcorder 3) Tapeless DV Hard drive camcorder
If you plan to edit your videos on a computer so that you can cut out unwanted video footage, and or maybe add special effects, music and titles, or just make DVD copies, then a mini DV tape camcorder is the way to go. Mini DV tapes is a preferred choice by professionals because with tapes the video data information is not compressed. Uncompressed video produces the best quality for video transfers to DVD and works like a charm with movie editing software like Final Cut Pro. Mini DV tapes has longer recording times than mini discs and is also more reliable. The tapeless hard drive camcorders does not have an issue of running out of recording media, but your video footage cannot be physically removed from the camcorder, it can only be electronically removed by computer if you want to back up the video information on another storage system. The mini DV tape and mini DVD disc media can be considered as instant video backup storage when physically removed from the camcorder.
Mini DVD Disc and Hard Drive camcorders are limited and record in a compressed MPEG2 format which are fine if your intentions are just to shoot and leave the video footage in its original media format for viewing playback only. They are not as computer friendly as mini tape with editing software or transferring to DVD on your computer, also the image quality will not be as good when transferred. The mini DVD disc camcorder has the advantage of putting the disc in direct to a DVD player after recording. The hard drive camcorder is nice because it gives you a big storage space to accumulate allot of video footage without ever any need to change your recording media, but if the hard drive melfunctions some how, or the camcorder gets damaged, or gets stolen, then it will be good bye to all your recorded memories if you haven't backed it up.
There are a few good high quality mini DV camcorders available, some with 3-CCD chip image sensors in the $600-$800 range, but for smaller budgets, then I recommend the Canon Elura 100 for best all around performance and for editing use under $375.
CANON ELURA 100 MINI DV CAMCORDER:
If you want a good reliable quality and the simplicity of a point and shoot camcorder for easy training, but still have the options for creative shooting, and the advanced ability to adjust your controls to get even better results when shooting specific situations like sports, wildlife, fireworks, and etc. Then I am highly recommending the Canon Elura 100. The Elura 100 is a great all around mainstream consumer camcorder on the market and delivers big performance for under $375 "its a steal". The Elura has an impressive picture quality, 20x zoom, true wide screen recording, built in video lights, and is very veratile for just about any type shooting style. Its also action packed with features and is truly a camcorder that you will not grow out of for a while. The Elura can be used by beginners to the advanced videographers.
The Canon Elura 100 uses mini DV tapes which works great for movie editing on MAC or PC. The Elura 100 is one of a rare few DV camcorders that comes with an external mic option, this is a great feature for dramatically improving audio sound like at sporting events, concerts, airshows, and etc. Built in condenser mics generally do not produce very good audio quality on any camcorder. The Elura 100 can also be used with a wireless mic system, this allows you record action audio sounds and voices from a distance. The Analog to Digital pass through offers you the feature of transferring your analog VHS/Video 8 tape collection to DVD.
THE ELURA 100 OPERATES AT 3 LEVELS, FOR THE BASIC CONSUMER TO THE ADVANCED VIDEOOGRAPHER:
1) Easy Mode: This feature gives you a fully automatic point-and-shoot camcorder. This is a great feature for people that just want to turn the camcorder on and hit record. With this feature the Elura does all the thinking for you and generally produces nice results.
2) Scene Selection: The Elura offers 8 auto scene selection modes for capturing scenes from fireworks display, night scenes, bright beach scenes to fast action sports. These settings are preset from Canon. The exposure, focus, shutter speed and color balance are preset differently for each scene, so you don't even have to think or fuss with settings, for e.g.: the sport scene mode would be automatically set to a higher shutter speed to capture fast motions for a crisper picture by eliminating the motion blur. You can also manually add special effects in combination with the scene selections. For,eg: you can start the recording with the video picture fading in and then end the recording with the video picture tumbling out of the frame. You can apply these and other special in camera effects with out a computer.
3) Custom manual mode: Manual functions are a big bonus for any DV camcorder. This is where you can not only be experimental, but also control your video the way you want. With manual functions you can fine tune your settings to best suit your personal scene conditions, for e.g.: just with sports, video recording Hockey vs Baseball, the two scene conditions are totally different even though there both classified as sports. So in this situation you would need to do is adjust the exposure to make the ice rink brightness a Little darker or the Baseball Field a little brighter if its a night game, then you will have the good capture. The easymode feature in many shooting conditions is usually intelligent enough to automatically make these adjustments for you, but the manual mode is more stable for when you need it most.
I hope this info will give you a better perspective of choosing the right camcorder.
Happy shopping!
Piero Foto
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Since your question is still open and it seems that you are still in search of more advice, then in addition to and supporting James response here is mine.
Sony, Canon, JVC, Panasonic are all good top competeive brands in camcorders. What ever brand you choose, mini DV tape camcorders is the choice for video editing.
There are three types of DV camcorders available on the consumer market.
1)Mini DV tape camcorder 2)Mini DVD disc camcorder 3) Tapeless DV Hard drive camcorder
If you plan to edit your videos on a computer so that you can cut out unwanted video footage, and or maybe add special effects, music and titles, or just make DVD copies, then a mini DV tape camcorder is the way to go. Mini DV tapes is a preferred choice by professionals because with tapes the video data information is not compressed. Uncompressed video produces the best quality for video transfers to DVD and works like a charm with movie editing software like Final Cut Pro. Mini DV tapes has longer recording times than mini discs and is also more reliable. The tapeless hard drive camcorders does not have an issue of running out of recording media, but your video footage cannot be physically removed from the camcorder, it can only be electronically removed by computer if you want to back up the video information on another storage system. The mini DV tape and mini DVD disc media can be considered as instant video backup storage when physically removed from the camcorder.
Mini DVD Disc and Hard Drive camcorders are limited and record in a compressed MPEG2 format which are fine if your intentions are just to shoot and leave the video footage in its original media format for viewing playback only. They are not as computer friendly as mini tape with editing software or transferring to DVD on your computer, also the image quality will not be as good when transferred. The mini DVD disc camcorder has the advantage of putting the disc in direct to a DVD player after recording. The hard drive camcorder is nice because it gives you a big storage space to accumulate allot of video footage without ever any need to change your recording media, but if the hard drive melfunctions some how, or the camcorder gets damaged, or gets stolen, then it will be good bye to all your recorded memories if you haven't backed it up.
There are a few good high quality mini DV camcorders available, some with 3-CCD chip image sensors in the $600-$800 range, but for smaller budgets, then I recommend the Canon Elura 100 for best all around performance and for editing use under $375.
CANON ELURA 100 MINI DV CAMCORDER:
If you want a good reliable quality and the simplicity of a point and shoot camcorder for easy training, but still have the options for creative shooting, and the advanced ability to adjust your controls to get even better results when shooting specific situations like sports, wildlife, fireworks, and etc. Then I am highly recommending the Canon Elura 100. The Elura 100 is a great all around mainstream consumer camcorder on the market and delivers big performance for under $375 "its a steal". The Elura has an impressive picture quality, 20x zoom, true wide screen recording, built in video lights, and is very veratile for just about any type shooting style. Its also action packed with features and is truly a camcorder that you will not grow out of for a while. The Elura can be used by beginners to the advanced videographers.
The Canon Elura 100 uses mini DV tapes which works great for movie editing on MAC or PC. The Elura 100 is one of a rare few DV camcorders that comes with an external mic option, this is a great feature for dramatically improving audio sound like at sporting events, concerts, airshows, and etc. Built in condenser mics generally do not produce very good audio quality on any camcorder. The Elura 100 can also be used with a wireless mic system, this allows you record action audio sounds and voices from a distance. The Analog to Digital pass through offers you the feature of transferring your analog VHS/Video 8 tape collection to DVD.
THE ELURA 100 OPERATES AT 3 LEVELS, FOR THE BASIC CONSUMER TO THE ADVANCED VIDEOOGRAPHER:
1) Easy Mode: This feature gives you a fully automatic point-and-shoot camcorder. This is a great feature for people that just want to turn the camcorder on and hit record. With this feature the Elura does all the thinking for you and generally produces nice results.
2) Scene Selection: The Elura offers 8 auto scene selection modes for capturing scenes from fireworks display, night scenes, bright beach scenes to fast action sports. These settings are preset from Canon. The exposure, focus, shutter speed and color balance are preset differently for each scene, so you don't even have to think or fuss with settings, for e.g.: the sport scene mode would be automatically set to a higher shutter speed to capture fast motions for a crisper picture by eliminating the motion blur. You can also manually add special effects in combination with the scene selections. For,eg: you can start the recording with the video picture fading in and then end the recording with the video picture tumbling out of the frame. You can apply these and other special in camera effects with out a computer.
3) Custom manual mode: Manual functions are a big bonus for any DV camcorder. This is where you can not only be experimental, but also control your video the way you want. With manual functions you can fine tune your settings to best suit your personal scene conditions, for e.g.: just with sports, video recording Hockey vs Baseball, the two scene conditions are totally different even though there both classified as sports. So in this situation you would need to do is adjust the exposure to make the ice rink brightness a Little darker or the Baseball Field a little brighter if its a night game, then you will have the good capture. The easymode feature in many shooting conditions is usually intelligent enough to automatically make these adjustments for you, but the manual mode is more stable for when you need it most.
I hope this info will give you a better perspective of choosing the right camcorder.
Happy shopping!
Piero Foto
tota100 (07/07/2007)
I would suggest looking at the Panasonic gs85. Its video quality, particularly on imovie, is something to be seen to be believed. It'll make the stuff shot on elura 100 seem childish in comparison.
Its not iccd or 3ccd that's the question, its the size and capability of the ccd itself, plus image stabilization (optical) that's key in camcorder mivie quality. I'm prepared to stand against pundits on this. Let anyone try out what I've said.
Besides, Canon products have recently shown an alarming tendency for inexplicable hardware failure.
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Its not iccd or 3ccd that's the question, its the size and capability of the ccd itself, plus image stabilization (optical) that's key in camcorder mivie quality. I'm prepared to stand against pundits on this. Let anyone try out what I've said.
Besides, Canon products have recently shown an alarming tendency for inexplicable hardware failure.
Kym Foley (05/20/2008)
The screen on my jcv gzmg77 is cracked what do I do?????
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Best camera for a student filmmaker? (erintilly — 12/17/2006)
I'm looking for something small so that I can pretty much take it anywhere and shoot everything (to have a lot to play with) so I've been looking at the Sanyo Xiacti HD-1 (decided against 1a for prices) but I'm worried that the quality will be too bad to properly edit and/or enter into small-time (not professional) student contests . . . I edit with Premiere Pro at work and Final Cut at home, so I'm also worried about choosing a camera that is easily compatible with both programs . . . any advice?
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by James DeRuvo (12/19/2006)
You have a good reason to worry. The HD1 shoots in MPEG4. As such, it's compressed already. Not good for the edit bay when you will just end up recompressing footage that is already compressed in order to burn to DVD or put online.
I'm still of the mind that miniDV ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) cameras are the way to go, and that leads to the Canon HV10. ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) And since Canon designs their cameras with Apple in mind, I think it's a good choice for HD.
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I'm still of the mind that miniDV ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) cameras are the way to go, and that leads to the Canon HV10. ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) And since Canon designs their cameras with Apple in mind, I think it's a good choice for HD.
JJhay (12/23/2006)
The problem is that the Canon HV10 has no microphone jack. Thats a big deal.
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by James DeRuvo (01/03/2007)
A very good point. So, for budgetary reasons, I would suggest the Elura 100 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). However, if you can splurge, the XL2 and the GL2 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) are popular student filmmaking choices.
And I'm betting there will be even better choices after CES later this month.
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And I'm betting there will be even better choices after CES later this month.
Don S (01/07/2007)
If she is truely film student, then the first thing she will learn is that nobody uses the onboard mic inputs on a camcorder. Sound is always recorded using dedicated sound equipment,ie feild recorders and professional mics, all of which can be purchased or rented with camera for under 5 grand.
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by James DeRuvo (01/08/2007)
5 Grand? If she's a student, she doesn't have five grand. I agree that recording with a boom mic and dedicated sound equipment is the way to go, but when you're just getting into it .... there's nothing wrong with recording as you go.
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I am trying to find the best still and video digital-camcorder combination? (jcad — 12/18/2006)
Can you recommend a digital camcorder with the best still photo capability and the best video combination. I am tired of carrying around my slr and old analog video camera, I am looking for the best of both worlds still and video.
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by James DeRuvo (12/19/2006)
Well, I would recommend the Canon Elura 100 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) for the following reasons: Good Still photo capability. 9 point focus, motor drive capability, auto exposure bracketing. But understand that the mega pixel rating is only 1.33 and as such, it's not as comparable to a digital stand alone. No camcorder with this capability has.
But for you, it also has this advantage. Analog to Digital pass through. That means all those tapes you shot with your older analog camcorder can be captured to your PC and burned to DVD or edited along with any footage you shoot with the Elura.
A very attractive feature.
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But for you, it also has this advantage. Analog to Digital pass through. That means all those tapes you shot with your older analog camcorder can be captured to your PC and burned to DVD or edited along with any footage you shoot with the Elura.
A very attractive feature.
Piero Foto (12/31/2006)
The first question you need to ask yourself is, what is your primary use, Photography or Videography.
If your main concern is stills then you will need to stay away from the camcorder combo, but if your main use is for video recording then the Elura 100 will be an excellent choice for the money. The Elura 100 is action packed with more features and functions than most people would ever use.
The Elura 100 can flawlessly take stills while video taping and if you don't get the shot right right away, no problem. You can later view your video recoding and then select the exact frame you want and make it to a still shot. The low light situation for stills on a camcorder is usually a problem because in most cases there is no flash options, but the Elura 100 has built in lights that can be used for both video and stills. If you capture a still image directly on the SD card with good clean bright colors, contrast and sharp focus, you will be able to push your prints with out any problems up to 12"x16" size, which is great for a 3MB(1x3 /Red, Green, Blue) picture file. Now, when I tell about this still print test I recently did you are probably going to think I am full of it, but as a professional I am still laughing about it in misbelieve that it was actually able to take a 1 megapixel(3MB) still shot from the Elura 100 and print it to an 18"x24" size with out seeing any pixels from a minimum viewing distance of 3 feet away, now thats what I really call unbelievable. As far as the video quality goes, the Elura 100 is as good as it gets for a single CCD chip camcorder, "very Impressive". The Elura 100 also has true wide screen date recording because of the larger single CCD chip.
The dubbing capabilities on the Elura 100 that is also mentioned above by James, is very impressive. The money you can save just with this service alone of transferring your analog video tape collection to DV tape or DVD can pay for the Elura 100 for itself.
One of many great things the Elura 100 can do is, keep on video recording if you run out of tape, "thats right", if you run out of tape and you don't have an extra blank with you or if you are in a middle of a video shot where its to critical to put in a fresh tape right away, then all you need to do is switch over without missing a heart beat and record on to the SD card. Its like having a built in hard drive. I would recommend to insert at least a 1GB SD card for video back-up. I would also strongly recommend purchasing a second battery at the same time of purchasing any camcorder, because with any electronic device, battery power is always a bigger issue than the media data storage itself, especially when using the built in lights.
Later! Happy shopping.
Piero Foto
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If your main concern is stills then you will need to stay away from the camcorder combo, but if your main use is for video recording then the Elura 100 will be an excellent choice for the money. The Elura 100 is action packed with more features and functions than most people would ever use.
The Elura 100 can flawlessly take stills while video taping and if you don't get the shot right right away, no problem. You can later view your video recoding and then select the exact frame you want and make it to a still shot. The low light situation for stills on a camcorder is usually a problem because in most cases there is no flash options, but the Elura 100 has built in lights that can be used for both video and stills. If you capture a still image directly on the SD card with good clean bright colors, contrast and sharp focus, you will be able to push your prints with out any problems up to 12"x16" size, which is great for a 3MB(1x3 /Red, Green, Blue) picture file. Now, when I tell about this still print test I recently did you are probably going to think I am full of it, but as a professional I am still laughing about it in misbelieve that it was actually able to take a 1 megapixel(3MB) still shot from the Elura 100 and print it to an 18"x24" size with out seeing any pixels from a minimum viewing distance of 3 feet away, now thats what I really call unbelievable. As far as the video quality goes, the Elura 100 is as good as it gets for a single CCD chip camcorder, "very Impressive". The Elura 100 also has true wide screen date recording because of the larger single CCD chip.
The dubbing capabilities on the Elura 100 that is also mentioned above by James, is very impressive. The money you can save just with this service alone of transferring your analog video tape collection to DV tape or DVD can pay for the Elura 100 for itself.
One of many great things the Elura 100 can do is, keep on video recording if you run out of tape, "thats right", if you run out of tape and you don't have an extra blank with you or if you are in a middle of a video shot where its to critical to put in a fresh tape right away, then all you need to do is switch over without missing a heart beat and record on to the SD card. Its like having a built in hard drive. I would recommend to insert at least a 1GB SD card for video back-up. I would also strongly recommend purchasing a second battery at the same time of purchasing any camcorder, because with any electronic device, battery power is always a bigger issue than the media data storage itself, especially when using the built in lights.
Later! Happy shopping.
Piero Foto
by James DeRuvo (01/03/2007)
One thing though, Piero, if you want to grab a frame and use it as a still, you need to keep in mind the interlaced frames ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inter... ). As such, you will need to "deinterlace" a frame in order to get it as sharp as you can.
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Piero Foto (01/04/2007)
Yes, you are right James, about the interlaced frames.
The still image print tests I have conducted were only from the first generation still shots directly shot on to the SD card, which was quite amazing results for the file size. I would think that best case scenario for printing still shots pulled from the video would only be good enough for nice regular size photo prints, but the way I look at it is, that if you had no other choice and had to pull a still frame from the video, its far better than getting a kick in the ass for missing the shot entirely.
Most of the questions posted on this site are from beginner to intermediate consumers and I personally feel that if I get too technical, meaning that if I give them an answer with out explaining to them how to get the answer, it would only confuse them even more.
Later, James, keep up the good work.
Piero Foto
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The still image print tests I have conducted were only from the first generation still shots directly shot on to the SD card, which was quite amazing results for the file size. I would think that best case scenario for printing still shots pulled from the video would only be good enough for nice regular size photo prints, but the way I look at it is, that if you had no other choice and had to pull a still frame from the video, its far better than getting a kick in the ass for missing the shot entirely.
Most of the questions posted on this site are from beginner to intermediate consumers and I personally feel that if I get too technical, meaning that if I give them an answer with out explaining to them how to get the answer, it would only confuse them even more.
Later, James, keep up the good work.
Piero Foto
by James DeRuvo (01/05/2007)
Agreed.
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sjb (01/09/2007)
How is the elura 80? (the elura 100 is above my price range)
I don't plan on editing and I don't have a mac- is the elura 80 sufficient?
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I don't plan on editing and I don't have a mac- is the elura 80 sufficient?
by James DeRuvo (01/11/2007)
It may be. Similar to the 100 in many respects. It has widescreen. But for a little more than $50, you get analog to digital pass through (great for moving all those old VHS home movies into your PC for editing and burning to DVD), a good digital still camera, recording in stereo. Motion JPEG recording of movies onto an SD card. Much more bang for the buck.
The 80 has slightly better low light performance, but hardly a deal breaker.
But if you have no interests in editing, then perhaps looking at the dvd ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) or Hard Drive ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) based camcorders are more to your liking. If your budget allows, that is.
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The 80 has slightly better low light performance, but hardly a deal breaker.
But if you have no interests in editing, then perhaps looking at the dvd ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) or Hard Drive ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) based camcorders are more to your liking. If your budget allows, that is.
must work in Israel (Beth1956 — 12/18/2006)
We would like to purchase a camcorder that will work in Israel. Where should we look? What are the requirements and which website has a return policy?
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by James DeRuvo (12/19/2006)
Just about any camcorder will work. But what you'll need is an a/c adapter which will allow you to charge from 230v, which is the power standard in Israel. We use 110v. You must have the ability alter the voltage as it comes out of the plug and into the camera or you can fry the electronics.
And an even greater consideration is if you plan on editing any of your footage. If not, then I'd recommend a hard drive based camera ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) as you wouldn't have to carry tapes or dvds to record on. Otherwise, DVD based cameras ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) would be your next convenient choice.
HOWEVER, if you plan on editing your footage, then miniDV ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) camcorders are the way to go as they record footage uncompressed. And if you have a MAC, then you should focus more on Canon ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) and Panasonic ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... )brands as they are most compatible with OSX. My current favorite is the Elura 100 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ), as it has mac compatibility, widescreen shooting, image stabilization and records in Dolby stereo. It also has the nifty analog to digital pass through feature which allows you to capture to your PC all those old home movies you have on VHS tape. However, there has been some issue amoungst some users that due to the design of the tape mechanism behind the onboard mic, that you may run into camera noise. This isn't a wide spread issue amoungst Elura users, however. Not everyone agrees that it's an issue. And this issue does occur in other designs and makes.
Another favorite of mine is the Pansonic GS500 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ), for similar reasons, but including a 3 CCD recording chip for brilliant color and sharp images. Downside, though is that word on the street is that this model, though still available currently, may have been discontinued.
The links above list details of each camera and some very good prices from several merchants. I encourage you to check them out. Each will have separate return policies as well.
In the end, there are numerous considerations you have to ponder, but this should give you a head start. Remember though, Israel uses a different voltage than here in the States, so you'll need an adapter to handle that.
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And an even greater consideration is if you plan on editing any of your footage. If not, then I'd recommend a hard drive based camera ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) as you wouldn't have to carry tapes or dvds to record on. Otherwise, DVD based cameras ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) would be your next convenient choice.
HOWEVER, if you plan on editing your footage, then miniDV ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) camcorders are the way to go as they record footage uncompressed. And if you have a MAC, then you should focus more on Canon ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) and Panasonic ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... )brands as they are most compatible with OSX. My current favorite is the Elura 100 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ), as it has mac compatibility, widescreen shooting, image stabilization and records in Dolby stereo. It also has the nifty analog to digital pass through feature which allows you to capture to your PC all those old home movies you have on VHS tape. However, there has been some issue amoungst some users that due to the design of the tape mechanism behind the onboard mic, that you may run into camera noise. This isn't a wide spread issue amoungst Elura users, however. Not everyone agrees that it's an issue. And this issue does occur in other designs and makes.
Another favorite of mine is the Pansonic GS500 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ), for similar reasons, but including a 3 CCD recording chip for brilliant color and sharp images. Downside, though is that word on the street is that this model, though still available currently, may have been discontinued.
The links above list details of each camera and some very good prices from several merchants. I encourage you to check them out. Each will have separate return policies as well.
In the end, there are numerous considerations you have to ponder, but this should give you a head start. Remember though, Israel uses a different voltage than here in the States, so you'll need an adapter to handle that.
by James DeRuvo (09/04/2007)
Hi - I noticed that you haven't marked any replies as the "best answer." Are you still looking for an answer? If so, I recommend you re-submit it on digitalcamera-hq.com so it will have a better chance of being noticed. These days it looks like most questions are being answered within a few days.
If you're happy with the answer you received, you can simply click on "Mark for best answer" bubble and it will close out the question. Thanks for posting it and Good luck!
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If you're happy with the answer you received, you can simply click on "Mark for best answer" bubble and it will close out the question. Thanks for posting it and Good luck!
Please tell me the best HD Camcorder to purchase (circledd — 12/19/2006)
Which HD Camcorder is the best one to purchase?
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by James DeRuvo (12/19/2006)
Frankly, at this point I'm not recommending HD cameras. I don't consider them ready for prime time. Most capture in MPEG2 or MPEG4. Bad for editing. Also, you need the HD TV, the HD DVD player, and an HD burner for your PC in order to truly get HD output out of what you record. And market saturation isn't at the tipping point where prices are low enough to justify HD being anything but the purvue of the early adopter or videophile who doesn't mind paying the premium for being first. And if you share your videos, how many family and friends do you know who will be able to appreciate the image on their own equipment?
Additionally, the low light lux levels aren't comparable to the current line of regular camcorders. Which means that while you end up with very colorful and VERY sharp imagery, it only means that in low light, you end up seeing just how under exposed the image truly is.
You also need to relearn how to shoot in HD, light in HD, edit in HD. I'm just convinced that it's time to take the leap. It's close, sooner every day, but I still think that miniDV camcorders is your best bet, especially if editing and burning to DVD.
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Additionally, the low light lux levels aren't comparable to the current line of regular camcorders. Which means that while you end up with very colorful and VERY sharp imagery, it only means that in low light, you end up seeing just how under exposed the image truly is.
You also need to relearn how to shoot in HD, light in HD, edit in HD. I'm just convinced that it's time to take the leap. It's close, sooner every day, but I still think that miniDV camcorders is your best bet, especially if editing and burning to DVD.
circledd (12/19/2006)
Appreciate the info. Glad someone explained. Will probably buy miniDV.
Thanks!
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Thanks!
Piero Foto (12/30/2006)
If you are prepared for the following reality, then go for HD.
The first key point i am going to bring up is, that the higher the video quality, the more data information that a 3CCD chip, HD, and a pro model DV camera packs into the image, which will require much more hard drive space to store on your computer. If you plan to edit HD footage, you will have to be ready to buy at least a 500GB external VIDEO hard drive storage, plus a super powerful computer for handling bigger data information. Most people don't not even consider what it takes to drive higher quality imaging on the back end until their first encounter with the situation. Also, keep in mind that HD movie editing software can cost even more than the consumer HD camera itself.
Here is more info to confirm what James has already mentioned. Once you get into HD cameras or any high end pro DV camera models, they will require more experience and equipment to operate properly. What this means is, the high end video cameras are not designed for low light shooting and high quality sound recording out of the box. So, you will need to make an even a further investment of purchasing a video lighting system so you can light up low light scenes to get proper depth of field and color, and you will also need to purchase high quality microphones to get nice clean sound, plus completely upgrade allot of your other equipment like your entertainment system to properly support HD.
It does not make any sense to go half way with this type of advanced technology, because you will never get the full benefits of what HD really stands for. Just to let you know, my professional background is in still and motion pictures and I am even going to sit it out until the second or third generation HD camcorder comes out.
I was just in the same situation as you are now and my plan is this. I recently purchased the Elura 100 DV camera which is an incredible camera for the money. Then with in the next 12-18 months from now when more HD camcorders are available on the market and become more mainstream, there will be a better selection of HD camcorders and the prices should drop enough to cover the cost of the Elura 100 that I am currently having fun with.
The Elura 100 is even better than all the personal reviews you will read. Its literally action packed with tons of features and functions, more than most people will ever use. Just the digital dubbing capabilities with Elura 100 is very impressive and the money you can save from transferring your VHS tape collection to DVD alone will pay for the camera itself.
All the negative reviews that you will or have read about the Elura 100 like: the camera sucks because the camcorder motor sounds noisy on play back, or my picture looks to blue from the built in Elura video lights, or the camera is to grainy or to dark in low light shots. WELL, all these negative issues in these reviews are easily resolved when you use the correct settings. I suggest for everyone to first speak to MANUAL before making an opinion, everyone knows MANUAL, the little white guy that comes with the camera, he fits in your hand and you can read him like a book, he has a great memory and knows allot about the Elura 100. People should seriously dedicate one DV tape just for testing all the functions and features of the camcorder so that any technical issues can be resolved before show time, but I guess its easier to complain.
Good Luck!
Piero Foto
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The first key point i am going to bring up is, that the higher the video quality, the more data information that a 3CCD chip, HD, and a pro model DV camera packs into the image, which will require much more hard drive space to store on your computer. If you plan to edit HD footage, you will have to be ready to buy at least a 500GB external VIDEO hard drive storage, plus a super powerful computer for handling bigger data information. Most people don't not even consider what it takes to drive higher quality imaging on the back end until their first encounter with the situation. Also, keep in mind that HD movie editing software can cost even more than the consumer HD camera itself.
Here is more info to confirm what James has already mentioned. Once you get into HD cameras or any high end pro DV camera models, they will require more experience and equipment to operate properly. What this means is, the high end video cameras are not designed for low light shooting and high quality sound recording out of the box. So, you will need to make an even a further investment of purchasing a video lighting system so you can light up low light scenes to get proper depth of field and color, and you will also need to purchase high quality microphones to get nice clean sound, plus completely upgrade allot of your other equipment like your entertainment system to properly support HD.
It does not make any sense to go half way with this type of advanced technology, because you will never get the full benefits of what HD really stands for. Just to let you know, my professional background is in still and motion pictures and I am even going to sit it out until the second or third generation HD camcorder comes out.
I was just in the same situation as you are now and my plan is this. I recently purchased the Elura 100 DV camera which is an incredible camera for the money. Then with in the next 12-18 months from now when more HD camcorders are available on the market and become more mainstream, there will be a better selection of HD camcorders and the prices should drop enough to cover the cost of the Elura 100 that I am currently having fun with.
The Elura 100 is even better than all the personal reviews you will read. Its literally action packed with tons of features and functions, more than most people will ever use. Just the digital dubbing capabilities with Elura 100 is very impressive and the money you can save from transferring your VHS tape collection to DVD alone will pay for the camera itself.
All the negative reviews that you will or have read about the Elura 100 like: the camera sucks because the camcorder motor sounds noisy on play back, or my picture looks to blue from the built in Elura video lights, or the camera is to grainy or to dark in low light shots. WELL, all these negative issues in these reviews are easily resolved when you use the correct settings. I suggest for everyone to first speak to MANUAL before making an opinion, everyone knows MANUAL, the little white guy that comes with the camera, he fits in your hand and you can read him like a book, he has a great memory and knows allot about the Elura 100. People should seriously dedicate one DV tape just for testing all the functions and features of the camcorder so that any technical issues can be resolved before show time, but I guess its easier to complain.
Good Luck!
Piero Foto
by James DeRuvo (01/03/2007)
Hi, I noticed that you haven't marked any replies as the "best answer." Are you still looking for an answer? If so, I recommend you re-submit it on digitalcamera-hq.com so it will have a better chance of being noticed. These days it looks like most questions are being answered within a few days. Good luck!
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I want a "point and shoot" camcorder that is Mac compatible and under $700. Any suggestions? (meganoc2 — 12/20/2006)
I would prefer a camcorder that records to DVD or Hard Drive would be even better. Are there any out there that are Mac compatible out of the box??
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by James DeRuvo (12/20/2006)
If you want to shoot video and then edit it to take out wasted scene, add titles and music, etc., you're taking a hit in video quality by shooting native with a DVD camera. This is because the video on DVDs is encoded to MPEG2, a compressed format. It's great as an end of the line format, but not for the source. Ultimately, you would also need to "re-encode" that MPEG2 footage (also called demuxing) in order to put it into a more editable format.
Oppositely, miniDV cameras, like the Elura 100 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) are much better in format because once you've captured, edited and then burned to DVD, you aren't recompressing already compressed footage, like using the DVD camera would force you into.
And the Elura, in fact the entire Canon line, seems to have been designed and engineered with MAC in mind as it is very compatible. Check out the great prices on it's page in the link above. It's a great deal.
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Oppositely, miniDV cameras, like the Elura 100 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) are much better in format because once you've captured, edited and then burned to DVD, you aren't recompressing already compressed footage, like using the DVD camera would force you into.
And the Elura, in fact the entire Canon line, seems to have been designed and engineered with MAC in mind as it is very compatible. Check out the great prices on it's page in the link above. It's a great deal.
joshua Tonn (01/24/2007)
im lookin for a mac compatible camcorder. im not willing to spend too much on one as i wont use it much. lookin in a range round $100.
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by James DeRuvo (01/24/2007)
A hundred? Wow, that's a tall order. Only one I can think of is the Pure Digital Point and Shoot Camcorder. It can record up to 30 minutes on it's compact flash drive in quicktime for $99. For $129 you can record up to 60 minutes.
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joshua Tonn (01/24/2007)
do u have any brand names or links i could use?
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by James DeRuvo (01/24/2007)
Pure Digital. Google is your friend.
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joshua Tonn (01/24/2007)
thanks
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After reading everything I am so confused. I just don't which one to buy. I want to be able to edit and make my own dvd's. HELP! (circledd — 12/20/2006)
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by James DeRuvo (12/20/2006)
Well, let's make it a little easier for you! If you want to shoot video and then edit it to take out wasted scenes, add titles and music, etc., you're taking a hit in video quality by shooting native with a DVD camera ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). This is because the video on DVDs is encoded to MPEG2, a compressed format. It's great as an end of the line format, but not for shooting source footage. Likewise, hard drive based camcorders ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ), while convenient, tend to record in MPEG2 (only JVC gives you an option to record in AVI). This gives you the same problem. Additionally, you will also have to "re-encode" (also called demuxing) the footage into an editable format. It's a hassle for those of us who wish to edit our videos as a hobby.
Oppositely, miniDV cameras ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) are much more robust. Cameras like the Elura 100 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) are much better in format because once you've captured, edited and then burned to DVD, you aren't recompressing already compressed footage, like using the DVD camera would force you into.
Now, let's talk about what PC you're using. Are you a MAC user? If so, it's a good idea to steer clear of SONY ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ), IMHO, as they tend to be incompatible with MAC due to proprietary issues. They do, however, work just fine with PCs, go figure.
I'm a big fan of Canon ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). Particularly the Canon Elura ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). It has widescreen ability, image stabilization, recording in Dolby, and a nifty little feature called analog to digital pass through, which enables you to take those home movies you have on VHS and capture them onto your PC by daisy chaining your VCR through the camera and into the PC via firewire. Then you can edit and burn to DVD as well. Great feature.
Some will argue that due to the design, that the Elura can record noise from it's mechanisms being so close to the microphone. My research suggests that this may or may not be a design flaw as many just don't get the noise issue on their videos while some complain they do. I'm not convinced it's a design wide issue and may be due to faulty individual units that need to be repaired or replaced. Still, it's a good solid camera and there are great prices on the link above.
Another good option is the Panasonic GS500 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). 3CCD camera with both firewire and USB 2.0 for transfer, image stabilization, and recording on miniDV. Word on the street though, is that the GS500 has been discontinued to make ready for a new model. You can still find it available as vendors sell out their existing stock to make ready. And support will still be available for it.
Both these cameras are good solid options.
So, why haven't I talked about HD? I just don't think it's ready for the mainstream consumer because of market saturation of HD. As such, it's purely the domain of professionals and early adopters who don't mind investing a good deal of cash to be the first ones to use the latest. That's changing mind you. As we head towards 2007 (the year that Uncle Sam has mandated for moving television broadcast into the HD spectrum), prices have dropped dramatically this year on HD televisions (from $8K to just over $1K), but let's not forget that you'd also need an HD capable editing software, HD DVD burner, HD dvd player, etc. And you need to unlearn and relearn how to shoot HD. And how many friends and family are actually investing in HD at the moment? Sharing HD DVDs with them will be a problem. So, for at least the next 6 months to a year, HD is still out of reach. But it won't be for long.
So, it's up to you if you want to get in on the ground floor of HD, or wait until the tipping point has been reached with prices, availability, and market saturation. My bet is you'll be ready when you're looking to buy your NEXT camcorder, not this one.
I hope that helps.
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Oppositely, miniDV cameras ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) are much more robust. Cameras like the Elura 100 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) are much better in format because once you've captured, edited and then burned to DVD, you aren't recompressing already compressed footage, like using the DVD camera would force you into.
Now, let's talk about what PC you're using. Are you a MAC user? If so, it's a good idea to steer clear of SONY ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ), IMHO, as they tend to be incompatible with MAC due to proprietary issues. They do, however, work just fine with PCs, go figure.
I'm a big fan of Canon ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). Particularly the Canon Elura ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). It has widescreen ability, image stabilization, recording in Dolby, and a nifty little feature called analog to digital pass through, which enables you to take those home movies you have on VHS and capture them onto your PC by daisy chaining your VCR through the camera and into the PC via firewire. Then you can edit and burn to DVD as well. Great feature.
Some will argue that due to the design, that the Elura can record noise from it's mechanisms being so close to the microphone. My research suggests that this may or may not be a design flaw as many just don't get the noise issue on their videos while some complain they do. I'm not convinced it's a design wide issue and may be due to faulty individual units that need to be repaired or replaced. Still, it's a good solid camera and there are great prices on the link above.
Another good option is the Panasonic GS500 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). 3CCD camera with both firewire and USB 2.0 for transfer, image stabilization, and recording on miniDV. Word on the street though, is that the GS500 has been discontinued to make ready for a new model. You can still find it available as vendors sell out their existing stock to make ready. And support will still be available for it.
Both these cameras are good solid options.
So, why haven't I talked about HD? I just don't think it's ready for the mainstream consumer because of market saturation of HD. As such, it's purely the domain of professionals and early adopters who don't mind investing a good deal of cash to be the first ones to use the latest. That's changing mind you. As we head towards 2007 (the year that Uncle Sam has mandated for moving television broadcast into the HD spectrum), prices have dropped dramatically this year on HD televisions (from $8K to just over $1K), but let's not forget that you'd also need an HD capable editing software, HD DVD burner, HD dvd player, etc. And you need to unlearn and relearn how to shoot HD. And how many friends and family are actually investing in HD at the moment? Sharing HD DVDs with them will be a problem. So, for at least the next 6 months to a year, HD is still out of reach. But it won't be for long.
So, it's up to you if you want to get in on the ground floor of HD, or wait until the tipping point has been reached with prices, availability, and market saturation. My bet is you'll be ready when you're looking to buy your NEXT camcorder, not this one.
I hope that helps.
circledd (12/20/2006)
Thanks so much. This really helped.
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tharrison (12/20/2006)
Deb --
I feel your pain. It's confusing. I'll see if I can simplify.
Every camcorder we have on the site is digital, so one way or the other you can edit and make your own DVDs. The question is: how?
Editing a movie is something you'll do on your computer. There's free software that comes with Windows or Mac to do this. The process is something like this:
* "acquire" the movie from the camcorder to your computer hard disk.
* Remove, rearrange, dub, add titles, and whatever else you want to do to edit the movie
* Burn the movie to a DVD that you can play in a regular DVD player
Some camcorders store the unedited movie right on a playable DVD disk. Others store to MiniDV tapes, and new ones store to a hard disk on the camcorder. The only difference is how you "acquire" the movie from that media to your computer. Tapes are the standard technology, people like them enough and you can always buy more, but a little inconvenient if you ask me. DVDs are convenient but make for a kind of bulky camcorder. Hard Disks are pretty convenient and don't need to be converted -- they store the movies as files you can play from your computer. That probably makes things a little more convenient, but not dramatically.
So probably the main question for you is price and image quality. The Canon Elura 100 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) is a reasonably priced, highly rated MiniDV camcorder. For a little more, you can get the Sony DCR-HC96 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) (MiniDV) or the very similar Sony DCR-SR40 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) which records to hard disk. I wouldn't recommend the DVD versions -- they are right for some people who want to record a movie and pop it in a player.
Unless you want to go for HD (high definition, as in HDTV) you can save money there. Unless you want to spend more, or need some fancy features, the ones I links above are all good options.
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I feel your pain. It's confusing. I'll see if I can simplify.
Every camcorder we have on the site is digital, so one way or the other you can edit and make your own DVDs. The question is: how?
Editing a movie is something you'll do on your computer. There's free software that comes with Windows or Mac to do this. The process is something like this:
* "acquire" the movie from the camcorder to your computer hard disk.
* Remove, rearrange, dub, add titles, and whatever else you want to do to edit the movie
* Burn the movie to a DVD that you can play in a regular DVD player
Some camcorders store the unedited movie right on a playable DVD disk. Others store to MiniDV tapes, and new ones store to a hard disk on the camcorder. The only difference is how you "acquire" the movie from that media to your computer. Tapes are the standard technology, people like them enough and you can always buy more, but a little inconvenient if you ask me. DVDs are convenient but make for a kind of bulky camcorder. Hard Disks are pretty convenient and don't need to be converted -- they store the movies as files you can play from your computer. That probably makes things a little more convenient, but not dramatically.
So probably the main question for you is price and image quality. The Canon Elura 100 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) is a reasonably priced, highly rated MiniDV camcorder. For a little more, you can get the Sony DCR-HC96 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) (MiniDV) or the very similar Sony DCR-SR40 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) which records to hard disk. I wouldn't recommend the DVD versions -- they are right for some people who want to record a movie and pop it in a player.
Unless you want to go for HD (high definition, as in HDTV) you can save money there. Unless you want to spend more, or need some fancy features, the ones I links above are all good options.
tharrison (12/20/2006)
Well, James beat me to the punch, but it sounds like we're in complete agreement. His point about converting from MPEG to something you can edit is a good one.
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circledd (12/20/2006)
3 out of 3 recommends the Canon Elura 100. My mind is made up. Thanks for all the input. It really helps.
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low light usage? (dianeboc — 12/21/2006)
i've heard mixed reviews about this camera when used in low light. any thoughts?
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by James DeRuvo (01/05/2007)
That's pretty true about most cameras these days, IMHO. The lux rating is what you want to look for. The closer it is to zero, the better it performs in low light. This unit has a lux rating of 5 Lux (0 Lux with Super NightShotî Plus Infrared System). Not bad, but there are others out there that perform better, like the <a href="digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... 100</a>, which has a 2 lux rating or the <a href="digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... which also has a 2 lux rating in Night mode.
However, even tech guru Leo Laporte acknowledges that low light performance of today's cameras are not what they were back in the day when lux ratings were zero or even -1.
And today's HD camras? Even worse in low light at this point.
In the end, if you can use a video light, you're better off. But they're rather limited as well.
But are you locked into hard drive based cameras? I don't want to hijack your thread here, but if you want to shoot video and then edit it to take out wasted scenes, add titles and music, etc., like it's DVD counterparts ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ), you're taking a hit in video quality by shooting native with a hard drive based cameras ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). This is because the video ois encoded to MPEG2, a compressed format. It's great as an end of the line format, but not for shooting source footage. Likewise, hard drive based camcorders, while convenient, tend to record in MPEG2 (only JVC gives you an option to record in AVI, which is a good idea). This gives you the same problem. Additionally, you will also have to "re-encode" (also called demuxing) the footage into an editable format. It's a hassle for those of us who wish to edit our videos as a hobby.
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However, even tech guru Leo Laporte acknowledges that low light performance of today's cameras are not what they were back in the day when lux ratings were zero or even -1.
And today's HD camras? Even worse in low light at this point.
In the end, if you can use a video light, you're better off. But they're rather limited as well.
But are you locked into hard drive based cameras? I don't want to hijack your thread here, but if you want to shoot video and then edit it to take out wasted scenes, add titles and music, etc., like it's DVD counterparts ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ), you're taking a hit in video quality by shooting native with a hard drive based cameras ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). This is because the video ois encoded to MPEG2, a compressed format. It's great as an end of the line format, but not for shooting source footage. Likewise, hard drive based camcorders, while convenient, tend to record in MPEG2 (only JVC gives you an option to record in AVI, which is a good idea). This gives you the same problem. Additionally, you will also have to "re-encode" (also called demuxing) the footage into an editable format. It's a hassle for those of us who wish to edit our videos as a hobby.
Piero Foto (03/21/2007)
Hi, Diane.
In general, consumer camcorders are usually better in lower lighting conditions than pro models. The word photography comming from latin word "FOTO" means Light. without light an image cannot be captured(exposed). In the motion picture industry, they create a night scene with different lighting angles, they don't just shoot in the dark without lights.
So the bottom line is, photo imaging devices do not perform the best on their own in dark lighting conditions. Now, Sony has been pretty good for low light shooting, but infrared features usually looses color and I also don't consider Sony to be a good allaround camcorder for versatility. The ZR 700 with night mode actually does a pretty good job and keeps the color, but this night mode feature is not good for fast moving subjects.
Conclusion: If you want the best video picture you need good lighting. There is no such thing as a perfect camcorder.
So the ZR 700 is the closest you are going to get for your needs with little money, its an excellent value for what you get.
Happy Shopping!
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In general, consumer camcorders are usually better in lower lighting conditions than pro models. The word photography comming from latin word "FOTO" means Light. without light an image cannot be captured(exposed). In the motion picture industry, they create a night scene with different lighting angles, they don't just shoot in the dark without lights.
So the bottom line is, photo imaging devices do not perform the best on their own in dark lighting conditions. Now, Sony has been pretty good for low light shooting, but infrared features usually looses color and I also don't consider Sony to be a good allaround camcorder for versatility. The ZR 700 with night mode actually does a pretty good job and keeps the color, but this night mode feature is not good for fast moving subjects.
Conclusion: If you want the best video picture you need good lighting. There is no such thing as a perfect camcorder.
So the ZR 700 is the closest you are going to get for your needs with little money, its an excellent value for what you get.
Happy Shopping!
Piero Foto (03/28/2007)
Hi, Diane.
Mix reviews on camcorders usually means, it benefits the consumers that use them properly and in many cases, negative reviews are created by user errors. They simply do not take the time to read manuals or conduct proper tests before they complain.
I general, I wouldn't pay big attention to negative reviews from non-professionals unless everyone complains about the same thing.
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Mix reviews on camcorders usually means, it benefits the consumers that use them properly and in many cases, negative reviews are created by user errors. They simply do not take the time to read manuals or conduct proper tests before they complain.
I general, I wouldn't pay big attention to negative reviews from non-professionals unless everyone complains about the same thing.
My computer can't find my connected Elura 100! (hvurb — 12/26/2006)
I recently bought a Canon Elura 100 and a DV cable. I connected it to my computer but for some reason my computer can't find it. Is there some special way for my computer to recognize the camera/
Thanks for helping me out,
Hunter
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Thanks for helping me out,
Hunter
by James DeRuvo (12/27/2006)
The troubleshooting guide in the manual recommends disconnecting your USB or Firewire cable on both sides, rebooting, and then connecting them again making sure the connections are firmly seated. Then turn on and see if the PC recognizes it. If not, this could easily be a bad Firewire or USB cable. You could confirm this by connecting the same cable to another computer and recreating the problem.
Or, it could be a corrupted driver. recommend going into "device manager" (start, computer, right click, properties, hardware tab, device manager button) and looking at the IEEE 1394 host adapters. Or, if using USB, then check Universal Serial Bus Controllers. See if there's a black/yellow exclaimation mark. That means your driver has stopped working. Remove it, reboot and let Windows reacquire and reinstall it.
It also could be spyware is affecting your PC. Do this FIRST. Run an anti spyware utility like ADAWARE or SPYBOT SEARCH AND DESTROY. Also run your AntiVirus. Clean everything up. Reboot and see what happens.
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Or, it could be a corrupted driver. recommend going into "device manager" (start, computer, right click, properties, hardware tab, device manager button) and looking at the IEEE 1394 host adapters. Or, if using USB, then check Universal Serial Bus Controllers. See if there's a black/yellow exclaimation mark. That means your driver has stopped working. Remove it, reboot and let Windows reacquire and reinstall it.
It also could be spyware is affecting your PC. Do this FIRST. Run an anti spyware utility like ADAWARE or SPYBOT SEARCH AND DESTROY. Also run your AntiVirus. Clean everything up. Reboot and see what happens.
yolanda (10/27/2007)
i have canon elura 100, and lately keep telling me to "remove the cassette, i removed it and reloaded again but still said the same "remove the cassette", do you know what i can do beside remove the cassette and reloaded again
thank you.
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thank you.
Which camcorder to buy? (mkladybug1 — 12/27/2006)
My son is in every sport just about and I would like to get a really good camcorder that would last me. He is 11 yrs old and is quarterback, pitcher, short stop, point guard. This will be my first to purchase and I don't want to spend a fortune.
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by James DeRuvo (01/05/2007)
I'm going to recommend the Canon Elura 100 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). Affordable. Has Image Stabilization. Wide screen. Dolby. Great digital still camera imagery that records to an SD card simultaneously while recording. A good solid zoom. And if you're a mac user, it's tailor made for capture and editing, IMHO.
Additionally, if you have the need, it also has a nifty little feature called analog to digital pass through, which enables you to take those home movies you have on VHS or 8mm video and capture them onto your PC by daisy chaining your VCR through the camera and into the PC via firewire. Then you can edit and burn to DVD as well. Great feature.
Some will argue that due to the design, that the Elura can record noise from it's mechanisms being so close to the microphone. My research suggests that this may or may not be a design flaw as many just don't get the noise issue on their videos while some complain they do. It seems about 10-1 no noise issue. So, I'm not convinced it's a design wide issue and may be due to faulty individual units that need to be repaired or replaced. Still, it's a good solid camera and there are great prices on the link above.
Another good option is the Panasonic GS500 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). 3CCD camera with both firewire and USB 2.0 for transfer, image stabilization, and recording on miniDV. Word on the street though, is that the GS500 has been discontinued to make ready for a new model. You can still find it available as vendors sell out their existing stock to make ready. And support will still be available for it.
Both these cameras are good solid options.
Now you're probably wondering why I didn't mention DVD or Hard drive based cameras. Well, if you want to shoot video and then edit it to take out wasted scene, add titles and music, etc., you're taking a hit in video quality by shooting native with a DVD or hard drive camera. This is because the video is encoded to MPEG2, a compressed format. It's great as an end of the line format, but not for the source. As such, miniDV cameras, like the Elura 100 are much better in format because it records uncompressed, and once you've captured, edited and then burned to DVD, you aren't recompressing already compressed footage, like using the DVD or hard drive based camera would force you into.
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Additionally, if you have the need, it also has a nifty little feature called analog to digital pass through, which enables you to take those home movies you have on VHS or 8mm video and capture them onto your PC by daisy chaining your VCR through the camera and into the PC via firewire. Then you can edit and burn to DVD as well. Great feature.
Some will argue that due to the design, that the Elura can record noise from it's mechanisms being so close to the microphone. My research suggests that this may or may not be a design flaw as many just don't get the noise issue on their videos while some complain they do. It seems about 10-1 no noise issue. So, I'm not convinced it's a design wide issue and may be due to faulty individual units that need to be repaired or replaced. Still, it's a good solid camera and there are great prices on the link above.
Another good option is the Panasonic GS500 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). 3CCD camera with both firewire and USB 2.0 for transfer, image stabilization, and recording on miniDV. Word on the street though, is that the GS500 has been discontinued to make ready for a new model. You can still find it available as vendors sell out their existing stock to make ready. And support will still be available for it.
Both these cameras are good solid options.
Now you're probably wondering why I didn't mention DVD or Hard drive based cameras. Well, if you want to shoot video and then edit it to take out wasted scene, add titles and music, etc., you're taking a hit in video quality by shooting native with a DVD or hard drive camera. This is because the video is encoded to MPEG2, a compressed format. It's great as an end of the line format, but not for the source. As such, miniDV cameras, like the Elura 100 are much better in format because it records uncompressed, and once you've captured, edited and then burned to DVD, you aren't recompressing already compressed footage, like using the DVD or hard drive based camera would force you into.
Piero Foto (01/07/2007)
Well said James.
If you want to keep the costs closer to the Elura 100 with a 3 CCD chip system and high shutter speeds to capture sports, the Panasonic GS180 the GS300 is also worth looking into. These two camcorder models are a few hundred dollars less than the Panasonic GS500. Keep in mind that the GS180 has 3 very small CCD chips and the total data information is just shy of the single large CCD chip in the Canon Elura 100.
For a eleven year old boy to have, I assume his very own first camcorder, the Canon Elura 100 would be like having a BMW sports car. The Elura 100 offers great performance for the money and is packed with allot great functions and features that will keep in interested in the camera for number of years. For today's digital standards and budget, I would also be recommending the Canon Elura 100 to Videography collage students.
GOOD LUCK!
Piero Foto
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If you want to keep the costs closer to the Elura 100 with a 3 CCD chip system and high shutter speeds to capture sports, the Panasonic GS180 the GS300 is also worth looking into. These two camcorder models are a few hundred dollars less than the Panasonic GS500. Keep in mind that the GS180 has 3 very small CCD chips and the total data information is just shy of the single large CCD chip in the Canon Elura 100.
For a eleven year old boy to have, I assume his very own first camcorder, the Canon Elura 100 would be like having a BMW sports car. The Elura 100 offers great performance for the money and is packed with allot great functions and features that will keep in interested in the camera for number of years. For today's digital standards and budget, I would also be recommending the Canon Elura 100 to Videography collage students.
GOOD LUCK!
Piero Foto
by James DeRuvo (01/08/2007)
And Panasonic is announcing new models this month at CES, so it may be worth holding off just a few days to see what happens. Prices are sure to drop on older models.
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sjb (01/08/2007)
What about the Canon Elura 80?
Obviously it isn't as good as the Elura 100 but it is quite a bit cheaper.
What would you recommend for a $300 budget?
Is the Elura 100 really worth spending the extra 50 bucks?
I don't have a MAC and I don't plan on doing much editing (if any)
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Obviously it isn't as good as the Elura 100 but it is quite a bit cheaper.
What would you recommend for a $300 budget?
Is the Elura 100 really worth spending the extra 50 bucks?
I don't have a MAC and I don't plan on doing much editing (if any)
by James DeRuvo (01/11/2007)
Sure, it's a bit cheaper. But not much. And considering that it also gives you sd card capability, a nice still camera, and the best feature of all ANALOG to analog to digital pass through, which enables you to take those home movies you have on VHS and capture them onto your PC by daisy chaining your VCR through the camera and into the PC via firewire. Then you can edit and burn to DVD as well. Great feature and worth the difference in price all by itself.
Also note that Canon has announced a few new models you may wish to consider. ZR850, ZR830, and the ZR800. The Canon ZR800, 830, and 850 will replace the ZR500, 600, and 700 as the company's budget video cameras. While these new models offer only minor improvements over their predecessors, they're welcome offerings ...
With a price difference of just $80 between models, the three offer similar features. All are relatively low resolution, with 680,000-pixel sensors on the ZR800 and ZR830 and a 1-megapixel sensor on the ZR850. All three use the same 35X zoom lens, and feature *electronic* image stabilization to reduce shake. Of course, any magnification over about 12X is usually going to be shaky without a tripod, regardless of the anti-shake features. Finally, all three camcorders have a 2.7-inch 16:9 widescreen LCD for framing shots.
The ZR830 and ZR850 include a new QuickStart feature, a modified standby mode that Canon claims draws 50 percent less power. All three camcorders also feature SecureDigital card slots, and the ZR830 and ZR850 support SDHC cards with capacities of 4 GB and higher. While the ZR800 doesn't feature QuickStart, it's the only one among the three to offer an external microphone port. ZR830 and ZR850 users have to make due with the camera's built-in mic.
The Canon ZR800, ZR830, and ZR850 ship later this month, with suggested price tags of $280, $300, and $353, respectively.
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Also note that Canon has announced a few new models you may wish to consider. ZR850, ZR830, and the ZR800. The Canon ZR800, 830, and 850 will replace the ZR500, 600, and 700 as the company's budget video cameras. While these new models offer only minor improvements over their predecessors, they're welcome offerings ...
With a price difference of just $80 between models, the three offer similar features. All are relatively low resolution, with 680,000-pixel sensors on the ZR800 and ZR830 and a 1-megapixel sensor on the ZR850. All three use the same 35X zoom lens, and feature *electronic* image stabilization to reduce shake. Of course, any magnification over about 12X is usually going to be shaky without a tripod, regardless of the anti-shake features. Finally, all three camcorders have a 2.7-inch 16:9 widescreen LCD for framing shots.
The ZR830 and ZR850 include a new QuickStart feature, a modified standby mode that Canon claims draws 50 percent less power. All three camcorders also feature SecureDigital card slots, and the ZR830 and ZR850 support SDHC cards with capacities of 4 GB and higher. While the ZR800 doesn't feature QuickStart, it's the only one among the three to offer an external microphone port. ZR830 and ZR850 users have to make due with the camera's built-in mic.
The Canon ZR800, ZR830, and ZR850 ship later this month, with suggested price tags of $280, $300, and $353, respectively.
I. Jones (01/20/2008)
I am 'new' at this, so forgive my ignorance.
I am going to purchase a Canon ZR850.
If I do, do I have to 'record' my videos onto a CD to see them on my TV?
As I understand it, I would have to purchase a 'firewall' something-or other to transfer to CD's on my 3 year old Dell---Yes?
If 'yes' what is the name of the 'firewall-something or other?'
thank you
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I am going to purchase a Canon ZR850.
If I do, do I have to 'record' my videos onto a CD to see them on my TV?
As I understand it, I would have to purchase a 'firewall' something-or other to transfer to CD's on my 3 year old Dell---Yes?
If 'yes' what is the name of the 'firewall-something or other?'
thank you
I plan to shoot vido on a canon elura 100 indoors at a wedding reception. Any tips on what settings will produce the best results? (sleder68 — 12/28/2006)
I am curious if I should just use the default exposure (auto), or one of the programmable modes on the Elura. Also, I will not be using any special or additional lighting other than the indoor lights at the party.
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Piero Foto (12/29/2006)
INDOOR VIDEO SHOOTING:
You will need to set your Elura 100 to "Tungsten." The auto mode will not correct the color temperature of lights as well as the tungsten setting when indoor lights get below 3400K(k means kalvin degrees, the color temperature measurement of the light source). The tungsten filter is generally a blue filter and will take out the yellowish red color from the indoor lights which will result in a cleaner natural look to your movie. The color temperature of 3400K is a very warm yellowish color equivalent to what you see from your average quartz track lighting, the daylight color temperature shifts towards blue and is based on 5500k, regular house bulbs will shift towards yellow red and a candle light will shift even more towards a red color bringing the color temperature of light much further below than 3400k, estimated around 2500k-500k. The Elura 100 is capable of custom white balancing for precision color balance even if the color that is casted from the lights around you is some crazy reading like 2437k, but don't worry about this feature now until you get a better understanding of it or ask for an answer next time. You made a very good choice buying the Elura 100, its an unbelievable camera for the money and if you take some time to go through and practice every function and feature you will find that there really is nothing to complain about.
NOTE: Make sure that if you use the built-in Elura lights for your close ups, you must turn off your tungsten filter or you are going to get the reverse effect of your movie being to blue, because the built in lights in the Elura 100 are not tungsten balanced, they are closer to the daylight color temperature. Now Listen carefully, since you will be in a social environment and maybe having a few drinks, the Elura 100 has a very simple system to switch back and forth with your tungsten filter with out wasting time or fumbling through the menu. You just need to set your tungsten filter once in your menu for the entire wedding shoot, then from that point all you will need to do is flick the easy switch on to make it fully automatic again so you can use your built -in video light for close-ups and then flick the easy switch off to return to your custom settings, in this case your custom setting is the tungsten mode for standard indoor shooting.
"Now!, you can drink all you want!" I sometimes call the easy switch mode "The Drunk Mode" because you don't have to think or be coherent.
Procedures:
First, turn on your camera to REC mode, then turn off the easy switch, and then activate the function menu button. Your camera will need to be in Program AE, from that point, joy stick down one and you should see Auto for white balance, then joy stick right until you get the tungsten mode, then exit.
If you get a chance, read the main review for the Elura 100.
Later! Have a good time.
Piero Foto
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You will need to set your Elura 100 to "Tungsten." The auto mode will not correct the color temperature of lights as well as the tungsten setting when indoor lights get below 3400K(k means kalvin degrees, the color temperature measurement of the light source). The tungsten filter is generally a blue filter and will take out the yellowish red color from the indoor lights which will result in a cleaner natural look to your movie. The color temperature of 3400K is a very warm yellowish color equivalent to what you see from your average quartz track lighting, the daylight color temperature shifts towards blue and is based on 5500k, regular house bulbs will shift towards yellow red and a candle light will shift even more towards a red color bringing the color temperature of light much further below than 3400k, estimated around 2500k-500k. The Elura 100 is capable of custom white balancing for precision color balance even if the color that is casted from the lights around you is some crazy reading like 2437k, but don't worry about this feature now until you get a better understanding of it or ask for an answer next time. You made a very good choice buying the Elura 100, its an unbelievable camera for the money and if you take some time to go through and practice every function and feature you will find that there really is nothing to complain about.
NOTE: Make sure that if you use the built-in Elura lights for your close ups, you must turn off your tungsten filter or you are going to get the reverse effect of your movie being to blue, because the built in lights in the Elura 100 are not tungsten balanced, they are closer to the daylight color temperature. Now Listen carefully, since you will be in a social environment and maybe having a few drinks, the Elura 100 has a very simple system to switch back and forth with your tungsten filter with out wasting time or fumbling through the menu. You just need to set your tungsten filter once in your menu for the entire wedding shoot, then from that point all you will need to do is flick the easy switch on to make it fully automatic again so you can use your built -in video light for close-ups and then flick the easy switch off to return to your custom settings, in this case your custom setting is the tungsten mode for standard indoor shooting.
"Now!, you can drink all you want!" I sometimes call the easy switch mode "The Drunk Mode" because you don't have to think or be coherent.
Procedures:
First, turn on your camera to REC mode, then turn off the easy switch, and then activate the function menu button. Your camera will need to be in Program AE, from that point, joy stick down one and you should see Auto for white balance, then joy stick right until you get the tungsten mode, then exit.
If you get a chance, read the main review for the Elura 100.
Later! Have a good time.
Piero Foto
Piero Foto (01/27/2007)
Hey!, Steven.
I have noticed that its been a month since you asked your question and I would think that you have already shot your wedding. So it would be a good idea to close off this question.
Thanks!
Piero Foto
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I have noticed that its been a month since you asked your question and I would think that you have already shot your wedding. So it would be a good idea to close off this question.
Thanks!
Piero Foto
models with analog pass through (moe4les — 12/30/2006)
I'm looking for the analog pass through feature on a good used or less expensive new camcorder. what models should I look for?
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by James DeRuvo (01/03/2007)
This is a very popular feature and one worth considering when buying a new camera. Canon's line of camcorders has it. Particularly the Elura 100 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) and the ZR700 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ).
Sony's DCR-HC96 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) also has this feature, as well as numerous others in the SONY line.
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Sony's DCR-HC96 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) also has this feature, as well as numerous others in the SONY line.
Audie Aslinger (01/03/2007)
I chose the Sony Handycam DCR-HC32 DCRHC32 MiniDV Camcorder
found several to choose from on ebay by searching "analog pass through" in the mini dv section
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found several to choose from on ebay by searching "analog pass through" in the mini dv section
by James DeRuvo (01/05/2007)
Well, as long as aren't using a MAC to edited, you should be good to go then.
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Don (02/08/2007)
Which brand does not work with Mac and which brand/models do?
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by James DeRuvo (02/08/2007)
Well, SONY for one is historically and still uncompatible with MACs. This is largely due to Sony's reliance on proprietary spins on the technology they employ. You can get third party software to bridge the gap, but yet another hoop SONY forces you into.
CANON's line of miniDV camcorders ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) are the way to go for MAC compatibility.
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CANON's line of miniDV camcorders ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) are the way to go for MAC compatibility.
Piero Foto (03/21/2007)
Hi, Audie.
Since the Elura 100 is out of production, the Canon ZR700 is the best inexpensive choice. The Analog to Digital pass is not a common feature in camcorders, and its also a feature that is not even available in some $900 models.
The ZR 700 is the way to for budget around $299.
abesofmaine.com/item.do?ite...
Happy Shopping if you are still looking!
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Since the Elura 100 is out of production, the Canon ZR700 is the best inexpensive choice. The Analog to Digital pass is not a common feature in camcorders, and its also a feature that is not even available in some $900 models.
The ZR 700 is the way to for budget around $299.
abesofmaine.com/item.do?ite...
Happy Shopping if you are still looking!
by James DeRuvo (03/21/2007)
Gee, I thought I said that. LOL
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Piero Foto (03/21/2007)
Hey, James.
Sometimes when you say the same thing over again or in a different way, they some how get it.
I have been rattling my brain to come up with some type of solution of getting all these open questions closed, especially the questions that have been open more than 30-60 days or more. Its worse than pulling teeth.
Consumers are hanging on to 5 points like it was there last $5, no matter how well their question has been answered. What's up with that. We are not even getting paid for this.
I am sure you must have some tricks.
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Sometimes when you say the same thing over again or in a different way, they some how get it.
I have been rattling my brain to come up with some type of solution of getting all these open questions closed, especially the questions that have been open more than 30-60 days or more. Its worse than pulling teeth.
Consumers are hanging on to 5 points like it was there last $5, no matter how well their question has been answered. What's up with that. We are not even getting paid for this.
I am sure you must have some tricks.
Piero Foto (03/21/2007)
James.
I need to ask you another question. What miniDv cams have analog to digital pass through and external mic option in the $400-$700 range.
I talked to Canon and was told that the Elura 100 has sold out, out of production. Some others at Canon said the Elura shows as current, but if at least one person can confirm that its out of production then that would be official enough. Because no one at Canon says anything unless there some type of confirmation from headquarters.
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I need to ask you another question. What miniDv cams have analog to digital pass through and external mic option in the $400-$700 range.
I talked to Canon and was told that the Elura 100 has sold out, out of production. Some others at Canon said the Elura shows as current, but if at least one person can confirm that its out of production then that would be official enough. Because no one at Canon says anything unless there some type of confirmation from headquarters.
Piero Foto (03/21/2007)
Hey! James.
Since the Elura is now gone, it feels like we have to disguise our selves with wearing sunglasses and a baseball cap when recommending anything less. It feels like I am saying, let Mikey try it.
Its an empty feeling with out the Elura.
Do you agree.
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Since the Elura is now gone, it feels like we have to disguise our selves with wearing sunglasses and a baseball cap when recommending anything less. It feels like I am saying, let Mikey try it.
Its an empty feeling with out the Elura.
Do you agree.
by James DeRuvo (07/17/2007)
Well, I don't think so. I think Canon's new models fit the gap just fine. And they've probably engineered out those sound problems that some complained about. So it's all good.
Embrace, Change, Piero. It's all good.
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Embrace, Change, Piero. It's all good.
geckophotographer (07/31/2007)
Sony DOES work with Mac. Trust me, I own this camcorder an it works perfectly fine with my hc96!
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by James DeRuvo (07/31/2007)
Michael, are you using it through the Dock? The dock does give that firewire capability needed for the MAC.
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geckophotographer (08/01/2007)
Yes, the hanycam station has a firewire 4-pin connector.
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by James DeRuvo (08/01/2007)
Well that's a good way to go then. Course, the dock is optional and doesn't come with the camera originally. So for firewire capability, you have an extra expense.
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geckophotographer (08/01/2007)
No, the Sony DCR-HC96 comes with the Handycam Station. Read it on Amazon in tdhe "What's in the box" section:
Sony DCR-HC96 on Amazon ( amazon.com/Sony-DCR-HC96-Di... )
The Handycam Station IS listed on the list.
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Sony DCR-HC96 on Amazon ( amazon.com/Sony-DCR-HC96-Di... )
The Handycam Station IS listed on the list.
by James DeRuvo (08/01/2007)
I stand corrected. Clearly this was the easiest workaround in the short term to get firewire capability back into the product line. Kudos to SONY for finally coming around on that.
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Does the Elura 100 record the time & date on the media tape or does the the camcorder internally remember when the data was shot by the time code: (Piero Foto — 12/30/2006)
The Elura 100 allows to display the time and date on the playback screen for six seconds, but it does not indicate whether its recorded on tape or not, so i am not quite sure if it internally tags the info to the time code of the tape. What happens once you play the tape on another system or take the tape out and put it back in, will it still remember and display the time and date of recording.
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by James DeRuvo (01/03/2007)
It records it on a separate track. So as you record, it's actually using linear time, unless you reset it, it will go from zero to 59 min 59 sec or there abouts.
However, it isn't like timecode, per se. It's just hours, minutes, and seconds. Not frames. What you could try is "blacking" the tape before you actually use it. Place the tape in with the lens cap on and hit record. Laying down a recording track over the entire tape. Then, when you record with it, you may have an uninterrupted time code track. This is an old trick used by news cameramen.
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However, it isn't like timecode, per se. It's just hours, minutes, and seconds. Not frames. What you could try is "blacking" the tape before you actually use it. Place the tape in with the lens cap on and hit record. Laying down a recording track over the entire tape. Then, when you record with it, you may have an uninterrupted time code track. This is an old trick used by news cameramen.
Piero Foto (01/04/2007)
Thanks for your answer James.
I am glad you brought up the blacking trick, its been almost 20 years since I have done that. I will have to try it with the Elura and see how it works.
Doing some further tests, the Elura 100 does remember the date & time of the recorded footage on the tape regardless of how many times I reset the counter or take the tape out. Also, if I record new footage over some existing footage, it still recognizes the date & time of any recordings that remains for playback. So far as I have noticed, once the information is transferred, the date & time is not recognized any more, even if I transfer back the same recording to the Elura.
So it seems to me that you would need to use the elura its self for play back with the original recording when you want to get the time & date of any important documented footage. I will try the blacking trick to see if the date & time will drag itself with the recorded footage when transferred. I have a feeling it won't
Thanks again for your answer, and I going to close this question off as I don't see any further answers without further testing.
Piero Foto
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I am glad you brought up the blacking trick, its been almost 20 years since I have done that. I will have to try it with the Elura and see how it works.
Doing some further tests, the Elura 100 does remember the date & time of the recorded footage on the tape regardless of how many times I reset the counter or take the tape out. Also, if I record new footage over some existing footage, it still recognizes the date & time of any recordings that remains for playback. So far as I have noticed, once the information is transferred, the date & time is not recognized any more, even if I transfer back the same recording to the Elura.
So it seems to me that you would need to use the elura its self for play back with the original recording when you want to get the time & date of any important documented footage. I will try the blacking trick to see if the date & time will drag itself with the recorded footage when transferred. I have a feeling it won't
Thanks again for your answer, and I going to close this question off as I don't see any further answers without further testing.
Piero Foto
whats the bottom line: sony dcr hc46 or canon elura 100??? (sjb — 01/01/2007)
the panasonic is out of my price range.
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by James DeRuvo (01/03/2007)
I think the key is to finish the question with ... which is compatible with my computer ... if you have a MAC, the question is easy - it's the elura 100. This is because the SONY will have compatibility issues. So much so that even SONY recommends capturing in analog mode only. If PC, you will be able to use either one.
But I'm a Canon fan. I just don't like SONYs reliance on proprietary technology and designs in an effort to force their users into only one tech stream. Whereas, Canon uses more open source or standard solutions allowing for faster, more affordable, and compatible solutions.
So given the choice, I'd take the Elura 100 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) every time.
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But I'm a Canon fan. I just don't like SONYs reliance on proprietary technology and designs in an effort to force their users into only one tech stream. Whereas, Canon uses more open source or standard solutions allowing for faster, more affordable, and compatible solutions.
So given the choice, I'd take the Elura 100 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) every time.
Piero Foto (02/06/2007)
The Canon Elura 100 is action packed with tons of features and functions, more than your average user will ever use. Its an incredible consumer DV camcorder for the money, very versatile and designed for just about any shooting situation. The Elura 100 has an impressive picture quality and its about as good as it gets for a single CCD chip consumer camcorder, the larger CCD chip also allows true wide screen recording. Its extremely quick of switching from play mode to record and vice-verse, about two seconds. One of the great things about this camcorder is, its mainly a one handed camcorder, all your functions, joystick and features are controlled and activated with your thumb and index finger, very important feature for when shooting while you are driving or engaged in sports, like skiing, or if you are carrying things with your other hand, like beach stuff, camera bags, and etc.
The Elura 100 is a great choice for movie editing on MAC or PC. It uses mini DV tapes a preferred choice by professionals because tapes does do not compress the video data information which in turn produces the best quality when transferring and works like a charm with movie editing software.
THE ELURA 100 IS GREAT FOR BEGINNERS TO THE ADVANCED VIDEOGRAPHERS:
1) Easy Mode: This feature gives you a fully automatic point-and-shoot camcorder. This is a great feature for anyone that just wants to turn the camcorder on and hit record for general shooting, or for people that had a few extra drinks at a party, then I call it the "Drunk Mode". When you switch to Easy Mode from custom settings, you can always return to Custom Mode with out having to reset your manual settings, it remembers the last set-up.
2) Scene Selection: The Elura offers 8 auto scene selection modes for capturing scenes from fireworks display, night scenes, bright beach scenes to fast action sports. These settings are preset from Canon. The exposure, focus, shutter speed and color balance are preset differently for each scene, so you don't even have to think or fuss with settings, for e.g.: the sport scene mode would be automatically set to a higher shutter speed to capture fast motions for a crisper picture by eliminating the motion blur. You can also manually add special effects in combination with the scene selections.
3) Custom manual mode: Manual functions are a big bonus for any DV camcorder. This is where you can not only be experimental, but control your video the way you want. With manual functions you fine tune your settings to best suit your personal scene conditions, for e.g.: A) just with sports, video recording Hockey vs Baseball, the two scene conditions are totally different even though there both classified as sports. B) You can also manually adjust for color/white balance more precisely when video recording under tungsten lighting conditions at wedding halls, and etc. The Elura 100 has allot of other great features where both beginners and pros can have fun with creating some cool in camera video effects.
Happy Shopping!
Piero Foto
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The Elura 100 is a great choice for movie editing on MAC or PC. It uses mini DV tapes a preferred choice by professionals because tapes does do not compress the video data information which in turn produces the best quality when transferring and works like a charm with movie editing software.
THE ELURA 100 IS GREAT FOR BEGINNERS TO THE ADVANCED VIDEOGRAPHERS:
1) Easy Mode: This feature gives you a fully automatic point-and-shoot camcorder. This is a great feature for anyone that just wants to turn the camcorder on and hit record for general shooting, or for people that had a few extra drinks at a party, then I call it the "Drunk Mode". When you switch to Easy Mode from custom settings, you can always return to Custom Mode with out having to reset your manual settings, it remembers the last set-up.
2) Scene Selection: The Elura offers 8 auto scene selection modes for capturing scenes from fireworks display, night scenes, bright beach scenes to fast action sports. These settings are preset from Canon. The exposure, focus, shutter speed and color balance are preset differently for each scene, so you don't even have to think or fuss with settings, for e.g.: the sport scene mode would be automatically set to a higher shutter speed to capture fast motions for a crisper picture by eliminating the motion blur. You can also manually add special effects in combination with the scene selections.
3) Custom manual mode: Manual functions are a big bonus for any DV camcorder. This is where you can not only be experimental, but control your video the way you want. With manual functions you fine tune your settings to best suit your personal scene conditions, for e.g.: A) just with sports, video recording Hockey vs Baseball, the two scene conditions are totally different even though there both classified as sports. B) You can also manually adjust for color/white balance more precisely when video recording under tungsten lighting conditions at wedding halls, and etc. The Elura 100 has allot of other great features where both beginners and pros can have fun with creating some cool in camera video effects.
Happy Shopping!
Piero Foto
Piero Foto (02/28/2007)
Hi, Sjb.
Its been a while since you asked your question, If you need more advice it would be a good idea to start a new question so it can be noticed. Also if you can choose the best answer to close this question off it would be great, thanks!
I hope you have found the right camcorder, if not we are to help.
Piero Foto
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Its been a while since you asked your question, If you need more advice it would be a good idea to start a new question so it can be noticed. Also if you can choose the best answer to close this question off it would be great, thanks!
I hope you have found the right camcorder, if not we are to help.
Piero Foto
Does Elura support PAL video format (rprabshe — 01/04/2007)
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by James DeRuvo (01/05/2007)
The PAL version of the Elura is the MVX460.
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Piero Foto (01/06/2007)
If you are only looking for a PAL camcorder, I would also recommend the same camcorder model as James indicated, but if you are looking for a dual system, I would investigate some more advanced movie editing software programs like Final Cut Pro, Avid Express, or Adobe Premiere that's available for MAC and PC. You might be able to use the NTSC video footage from the Canon Elura 100, then transfer it to an editing program and record it back as PAL. The only draw back to this is, the editing software could cost as much or more than purchasing an extra camcorder so that you would have both NTSC & PAL, but if you are planning to edit your videos anyway, then its worth the time to look in to it, so that you would only put out the cost of one system that will give you both video formats.
It could be a good idea if you start a new question to find out if there is any computer video software conversion programs available to convert NTSC to PAL. Another option to find out is, if there is a converter available so that when you travel over seas you can play your NTSC video through the converter and then the signals tranfers directly to any PAL TV or PAL system.
Good Luck!
Piero Foto
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It could be a good idea if you start a new question to find out if there is any computer video software conversion programs available to convert NTSC to PAL. Another option to find out is, if there is a converter available so that when you travel over seas you can play your NTSC video through the converter and then the signals tranfers directly to any PAL TV or PAL system.
Good Luck!
Piero Foto
by James DeRuvo (01/08/2007)
Piero, Adobe dropped Apple support for Premiere a few years ago. Although I hear that they're about ready to release a new suite of video programs into the MAC platform.
Final Cut Pro is definitely the best if you're serious. But if a hobbyest, ILife is a great way to go for editing video and burning to DVD. And it comes with the MAC for free. Does it have PAL support? I'd have to research that. But I'm betting it does.
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Final Cut Pro is definitely the best if you're serious. But if a hobbyest, ILife is a great way to go for editing video and burning to DVD. And it comes with the MAC for free. Does it have PAL support? I'd have to research that. But I'm betting it does.
isaiah53 (01/21/2007)
is it likely that I might find the Canon MVX460 for sale in USA?
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pengizzle (01/29/2007)
yep, look for Canon Elura 100
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Piero Foto (03/29/2007)
Yes,
but the PAL version is the ELura 100E. you can get one here in the USA.
Also there is software that will convert NTSC to PAL or vice-verse.
If you need any further advice, just ask in the reply box below.
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but the PAL version is the ELura 100E. you can get one here in the USA.
Also there is software that will convert NTSC to PAL or vice-verse.
If you need any further advice, just ask in the reply box below.
by James DeRuvo (03/30/2007)
Curious, GLRose, why do you need a PAL camera here in the US where we use NTSC? I ask because I shot a film on PAL a few years ago and it ended up being much more trouble than it was worth.
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Ungermann (06/13/2007)
James, the answer is "film look". PAL camcorders shoot in 50i, which is closer to 24fps than 60i.
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Piero Foto (06/13/2007)
The UK/PAL version of the Elura 100 is the Canon MXV460. The 100E was either made before the MXV460 or it was a PAL version that was only sold in North America.
The new released UK/PAL Canon MD160 is very close to the Elura 100 specs, but with a few new upgrades. Its specs matches-up between the Elura 100 and the ZR700
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The new released UK/PAL Canon MD160 is very close to the Elura 100 specs, but with a few new upgrades. Its specs matches-up between the Elura 100 and the ZR700
by James DeRuvo (06/15/2007)
Ah, yes, I agree. I shot a short film on PAL for that very reason. A pain in post, but worth it on the scree.n
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by James DeRuvo (07/17/2007)
Hi. I noticed that you haven't marked any replies as the "best answer." Are you still looking for an answer? If so, I recommend you re-submit it on digitalcamera-hq.com so it will have a better chance of being noticed. These days it looks like most questions are being answered within a few days. Good luck!
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does this product the Sony DCR-SR40 have firewire capability>? (gan — 01/07/2007)
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by James DeRuvo (01/08/2007)
No. According to the specs, it has Composite video/audio output, USB, and S-Video output. Additionally, if you want to shoot video and then edit it to take out wasted scene, add titles and music, etc., you're taking a hit in video quality by shooting native with a hard drive based camera. This is because the video is encoded to MPEG2, a compressed format. It's great as an end of the line format when burning to DVD, but not for the source. As such, miniDV ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) cameras, like the Elura 100 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) are much better in format because once you've captured, edited and then burned to DVD, you aren't recompressing already compressed footage, like using this kind of camera would force you into. Additionally, the SONY has proprietary issues, making it difficult to capture and edit on a MAC.
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MrX (01/20/2007)
As james said, the only computer output it has is USB 2/0, which is 480mbps :) very fast
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Dave Amspoker (01/31/2007)
what is the other "port" on the DCR-SR40? It looks like a 4pin firewire port, but has a different shape.
I wish I would have known about the "proprietary issues" because editing on my MAC is exactly what I want to do with this camera.
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I wish I would have known about the "proprietary issues" because editing on my MAC is exactly what I want to do with this camera.
MrX (02/02/2007)
IT has two ports on the side of the camera its self, DC and A/V
it has usb capability through the dock.
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it has usb capability through the dock.
by James DeRuvo (07/17/2007)
Another option is to hook it up via USB, the MAC should read the camera as a hard drive. Drag and drop the file onto the mac and use MPEG Stream Clip by Square 5 to reencode it into a more editable format.
Good luck.
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Good luck.
by James DeRuvo (09/04/2007)
BTW - I noticed that you haven't marked any replies as the "best answer." Are you still looking for an answer? If so, I recommend you re-submit it on digitalcamera-hq.com so it will have a better chance of being noticed. These days it looks like most questions are being answered within a few days.
If you're happy with the answer you received, you can simply click on "Mark for best answer" bubble and it will close out the question. Thanks for posting it and Good luck!
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how to view recorded video on computer from sony HC36 (ls15 — 01/08/2007)
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by James DeRuvo (01/08/2007)
Well that largely depends on whether your a mac or pc user. If PC, no problem. Hook it up via it's firewire cable, capture, view, and/or edit.
However, if you are a mac user, SONY's tend to have compatibility problems with the MAC OS. Either way, you'll need to install the required software in which to operate it. Your manual ( docs.sony.com/release/DCRHC... ) has the step by step.
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However, if you are a mac user, SONY's tend to have compatibility problems with the MAC OS. Either way, you'll need to install the required software in which to operate it. Your manual ( docs.sony.com/release/DCRHC... ) has the step by step.
Piero Foto (03/01/2007)
shown link text ( www.digitalcamera-hq.com/camcorders/canon-elura-100_reviews.html )
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Piero Foto (03/19/2007)
Just plug it in the computer and push play.
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VDR-D100 and Mac?? (jb-28 — 01/08/2007)
I received the Panasonic VDR-D100 for Chirstmas. However, I have a Mac and am proficient with iDVD. (OSX v10.4) I have heard that it is very difficult and frustrating to edit with this camera. If so, I will return for another model. Can anyone give me some advice? I am not an expert, I just like to edit for titles, music, etc. Thanks.
Jen
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Jen
by James DeRuvo (01/08/2007)
Well, it's a dvd camcorder. If you want to shoot video and then edit it to take out wasted scene, add titles and music, etc., you're taking a hit in video quality by shooting native with a DVD camera. This is because the video on DVDs is encoded to MPEG2, a compressed format. It's great as an end of the line format, but not for the source. As such, miniDV ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) cameras, like the Panasonic GS500 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ), or the Elura 100 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) are much better in format because once you've captured, edited and then burned to DVD, you aren't recompressing already compressed footage, like using the DVD camera would force you into.
The VDR-100 is great for people who just want to record and play at home, but if you want to edit, it's more trouble than the quality gives you.
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The VDR-100 is great for people who just want to record and play at home, but if you want to edit, it's more trouble than the quality gives you.
nicky (01/27/2007)
Well I have read your reply to how to transfer my panasonic VDR-D100 to my computor and am none the wiser as to how to do it! I would appreciate any other help from any reader on this subject. thanks
nicky
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nicky
Chris (03/11/2007)
yes!! i have been trying this for hours and hours today (transferring my files to a mac, VLC won't open the files?) help me please!!!!!!!!!!!
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Piero Foto (03/13/2007)
Hey James.
I believe that Canon might have has pulled the Elura 100 off the retail shelves, this could be related to the "Motor Sound" issue of the Elura's mic design problem. If they were planning to discontinue it, they would have just sold out the inventory. One consumer that I was responding to looked on every major site and could not get an Elura 100, but she finally did get one as a kit combo only at a small mom and pop electronic store. If you can find one around there selling above list for around $450. I believe that refurbished ones are also gone up in price if you can get one.
I contacted Canon's headquarters about two weeks ago and brought this problem to their attention, so I am not quite sure if that reinforced or created their decision after running a few tests of their own. Its a little strange that they did not originally want to acknowledge the issue and then the camcorder suddenly disappears.
Keep me posted if you know or hear anything about it.
Good talking to you again!
Piero Foto
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I believe that Canon might have has pulled the Elura 100 off the retail shelves, this could be related to the "Motor Sound" issue of the Elura's mic design problem. If they were planning to discontinue it, they would have just sold out the inventory. One consumer that I was responding to looked on every major site and could not get an Elura 100, but she finally did get one as a kit combo only at a small mom and pop electronic store. If you can find one around there selling above list for around $450. I believe that refurbished ones are also gone up in price if you can get one.
I contacted Canon's headquarters about two weeks ago and brought this problem to their attention, so I am not quite sure if that reinforced or created their decision after running a few tests of their own. Its a little strange that they did not originally want to acknowledge the issue and then the camcorder suddenly disappears.
Keep me posted if you know or hear anything about it.
Good talking to you again!
Piero Foto
by James DeRuvo (03/13/2007)
Well, it's still listed on the Canon website. ( usa.canon.com/consumer/cont... ) But that could be only until backstock is sold off. In addition to the motor noise issue, it could also just be that they're thinning the herd, as it were, to focus on the newer line - the ZR800, ZR830, and ZR850.
Regardless, I do agree that until things become more clear as to the Elura's fate, that we should give this as a proviso before recommending it.
Thanks for the heads up, Piero!
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Regardless, I do agree that until things become more clear as to the Elura's fate, that we should give this as a proviso before recommending it.
Thanks for the heads up, Piero!
compare the Caono Elura 110 va the Canon DC100. which would choose? (hoppy — 01/14/2007)
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by James DeRuvo (01/18/2007)
If you go to the Canon Camera website ( usa.canon.com/consumer/cont... ), you can check up to three cameras and then hit the comparison button. It will give you a breakdown of the differences and similarities.
Among the highlights:
- The Elura has twice the effective pixels for recording.
- The DC100 has a larger optical zoom range (25x vs. 20x)
- The Elura also shoots in widescreen
But the biggest advantage the Elura has is this. If you want to shoot video and then edit it to take out wasted scenes, add titles and music, etc., you're taking a hit in video quality by shooting native with a DVD camera ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). This is because the video on DVDs is encoded to MPEG2, a compressed format. It's great as an end of the line format, but not for shooting source footage. Likewise, hard drive based camcorders ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ), while convenient, tend to record in MPEG2 (only JVC gives you an option to record in AVI). This gives you the same problem. Additionally, you will also have to "re-encode" (also called demuxing) the footage into an editable format. It's a hassle for those of us who wish to edit our videos as a hobby.
Oppositely, miniDV cameras ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) are much more robust. Cameras like the Elura 100 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) are much better in format because once you've captured, edited and then burned to DVD, you aren't recompressing already compressed footage, like using the DVD camera would force you into.
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Among the highlights:
- The Elura has twice the effective pixels for recording.
- The DC100 has a larger optical zoom range (25x vs. 20x)
- The Elura also shoots in widescreen
But the biggest advantage the Elura has is this. If you want to shoot video and then edit it to take out wasted scenes, add titles and music, etc., you're taking a hit in video quality by shooting native with a DVD camera ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). This is because the video on DVDs is encoded to MPEG2, a compressed format. It's great as an end of the line format, but not for shooting source footage. Likewise, hard drive based camcorders ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ), while convenient, tend to record in MPEG2 (only JVC gives you an option to record in AVI). This gives you the same problem. Additionally, you will also have to "re-encode" (also called demuxing) the footage into an editable format. It's a hassle for those of us who wish to edit our videos as a hobby.
Oppositely, miniDV cameras ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) are much more robust. Cameras like the Elura 100 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) are much better in format because once you've captured, edited and then burned to DVD, you aren't recompressing already compressed footage, like using the DVD camera would force you into.
Piero Foto (03/19/2007)
Hi M Lea.
Just stand back and look at the two camcorders side by side and see which the prettiest, the sleekest, the sexiest, the coolest, the hottest, the one that says "come to Papa", that's the one I would buy.
Now, this that's what I call the perfect allaround camcorder for the money.
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Just stand back and look at the two camcorders side by side and see which the prettiest, the sleekest, the sexiest, the coolest, the hottest, the one that says "come to Papa", that's the one I would buy.
Now, this that's what I call the perfect allaround camcorder for the money.
by James DeRuvo (09/06/2007)
Hi, I noticed that you haven't marked any replies as the "best answer." Are you still looking for an answer? If so, I recommend you re-submit it on digitalcamera-hq.com so it will have a better chance of being noticed. These days it looks like most questions are being answered within a few days.
If you're happy with the answer you received, you can simply click on "Mark for best answer" bubble and it will close out the question. Thanks for posting it and Good luck!
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I want to make slide shows with photos and add some video clips. Which camcorder would be the best for this so that I can give copies to friends? (lexiegirl07 — 01/15/2007)
I use PhotoShow Deluxe 4 to make my slideshows. I am hoping to add the video clips to these slideshows. If you know of any programs that are better, please let me know. Appreciate your help!
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by James DeRuvo (01/18/2007)
Just about any camcorder will give you the ability to capture your footage into your PC for import into PhotoShow Deluxe 4.
I would avoid DVD or Hard Drive based camcorders, however. If you want to shoot video and then edit it to take out wasted scenes, add titles and music, etc., you're taking a hit in video quality by shooting with a DVD camera ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). This is because the video on DVDs is encoded to MPEG2, a compressed format. It's great as an end of the line format, but not for shooting source footage. Likewise, hard drive based camcorders ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ), while convenient, tend to record in MPEG2 (only JVC is the exception to this rule as it gives you an option to record in AVI). This gives you the same problem. Additionally, you will also have to "re-encode" (also called demuxing) the footage into an editable format. It's a hassle for those of us who wish to edit our videos as a hobby.
Oppositely, miniDV cameras ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) are much more robust. Cameras like the GS500 or the Elura 100 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) are much better in format because once you've captured, edited and then burned to DVD, you aren't recompressing already compressed footage, like using the DVD camera would force you into.
The GS500 is being phased out for newer models now, but it's still an outstanding platform for what your looking for.
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I would avoid DVD or Hard Drive based camcorders, however. If you want to shoot video and then edit it to take out wasted scenes, add titles and music, etc., you're taking a hit in video quality by shooting with a DVD camera ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). This is because the video on DVDs is encoded to MPEG2, a compressed format. It's great as an end of the line format, but not for shooting source footage. Likewise, hard drive based camcorders ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ), while convenient, tend to record in MPEG2 (only JVC is the exception to this rule as it gives you an option to record in AVI). This gives you the same problem. Additionally, you will also have to "re-encode" (also called demuxing) the footage into an editable format. It's a hassle for those of us who wish to edit our videos as a hobby.
Oppositely, miniDV cameras ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) are much more robust. Cameras like the GS500 or the Elura 100 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) are much better in format because once you've captured, edited and then burned to DVD, you aren't recompressing already compressed footage, like using the DVD camera would force you into.
The GS500 is being phased out for newer models now, but it's still an outstanding platform for what your looking for.
Need to buy new camcorder. Looking at MiniDVD but want to make(copy) full size DVD copy w/same quality-heard it is hard (pjr01 — 01/15/2007)
Have heard you can't copy from Mini DVD to DVD on dual layer and also that you can use "premiere elements" but that it for some reason looks digital. Nedd to buy new camera ASAP and confused on what type to buy.
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by James DeRuvo (01/16/2007)
It's not hard at all. It's a simple matter of capturing and editing using your editing software, then encoding and burning to DVD. You can use Premiere elements for all this. I've had no complaints, nor have I read any regarding the image looking of lesser quality than the raw footage. It will be compressed, however. That's because DVDs use MPEG2 compression. All DVDs use this, so not matter whether you use a DVD based camcorder or burn your own from miniDV footage, that's just the nature of the beast. Now, you can tweak the bitrate in the encoding to improve the quality. That may be another layer of work, but it really isn't difficult.
I'm a big fan of Canon ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). Particularly the Canon Elura ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). It has widescreen ability, image stabilization, recording in Dolby, and a nifty little feature called analog to digital pass through, which enables you to take those home movies you have on VHS and capture them onto your PC by daisy chaining your VCR through the camera and into the PC via firewire. Then you can edit and burn to DVD as well. Great feature.
Some will argue that due to the design, that the Elura can record noise from it's mechanisms being so close to the microphone. My research suggests that this may or may not be a design flaw as many just don't get the noise issue on their videos while some complain they do. I'm not convinced it's a design wide issue and may be due to faulty individual units that need to be repaired or replaced. Still, it's a good solid camera and there are great prices on the link above.
Another good option is the Panasonic GS500 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). 3CCD camera with both firewire and USB 2.0 for transfer, image stabilization, and recording on miniDV. Word on the street though, is that the GS500 has been discontinued to make ready for a new model. You can still find it available as vendors sell out their existing stock to make ready. And support will still be available for it.
Both these cameras are good solid options.
HOWEVER, since we just had the Consumer Electronics Show, camera makers like Canon have introduced newer models. The Canon ZR800, 830, and 850 will replace the ZR500, 600, and 700 as the company's budget video cameras. While these new models offer only minor improvements over their predecessors, they're welcome offerings ...
With a price difference of just $80 between models, the three offer similar features. All are relatively low resolution, with 680,000-pixel sensors on the ZR800 and ZR830 and a 1-megapixel sensor on the ZR850. All three use the same 35X zoom lens, and feature *electronic* image stabilization to reduce shake. Of course, any magnification over about 12X is usually going to be shaky without a tripod, regardless of the anti-shake features. Finally, all three camcorders have a 2.7-inch 16:9 widescreen LCD for framing shots.
The ZR830 and ZR850 include a new QuickStart feature, a modified standby mode that Canon claims draws 50 percent less power. All three camcorders also feature SecureDigital card slots, and the ZR830 and ZR850 support SDHC cards with capacities of 4 GB and higher. While the ZR800 doesn't feature QuickStart, it's the only one among the three to offer an external microphone port. ZR830 and ZR850 users have to make due with the camera's built-in mic.
The Canon ZR800, ZR830, and ZR850 ship later this month, with suggested price tags of $280, $300, and $353, respectively.
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I'm a big fan of Canon ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). Particularly the Canon Elura ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). It has widescreen ability, image stabilization, recording in Dolby, and a nifty little feature called analog to digital pass through, which enables you to take those home movies you have on VHS and capture them onto your PC by daisy chaining your VCR through the camera and into the PC via firewire. Then you can edit and burn to DVD as well. Great feature.
Some will argue that due to the design, that the Elura can record noise from it's mechanisms being so close to the microphone. My research suggests that this may or may not be a design flaw as many just don't get the noise issue on their videos while some complain they do. I'm not convinced it's a design wide issue and may be due to faulty individual units that need to be repaired or replaced. Still, it's a good solid camera and there are great prices on the link above.
Another good option is the Panasonic GS500 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). 3CCD camera with both firewire and USB 2.0 for transfer, image stabilization, and recording on miniDV. Word on the street though, is that the GS500 has been discontinued to make ready for a new model. You can still find it available as vendors sell out their existing stock to make ready. And support will still be available for it.
Both these cameras are good solid options.
HOWEVER, since we just had the Consumer Electronics Show, camera makers like Canon have introduced newer models. The Canon ZR800, 830, and 850 will replace the ZR500, 600, and 700 as the company's budget video cameras. While these new models offer only minor improvements over their predecessors, they're welcome offerings ...
With a price difference of just $80 between models, the three offer similar features. All are relatively low resolution, with 680,000-pixel sensors on the ZR800 and ZR830 and a 1-megapixel sensor on the ZR850. All three use the same 35X zoom lens, and feature *electronic* image stabilization to reduce shake. Of course, any magnification over about 12X is usually going to be shaky without a tripod, regardless of the anti-shake features. Finally, all three camcorders have a 2.7-inch 16:9 widescreen LCD for framing shots.
The ZR830 and ZR850 include a new QuickStart feature, a modified standby mode that Canon claims draws 50 percent less power. All three camcorders also feature SecureDigital card slots, and the ZR830 and ZR850 support SDHC cards with capacities of 4 GB and higher. While the ZR800 doesn't feature QuickStart, it's the only one among the three to offer an external microphone port. ZR830 and ZR850 users have to make due with the camera's built-in mic.
The Canon ZR800, ZR830, and ZR850 ship later this month, with suggested price tags of $280, $300, and $353, respectively.
acpotts (02/27/2007)
I'm stuck over whether to purchase the Elura100 or the new ZR850? In your opinion, which is the better camcorder?
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by James DeRuvo (02/27/2007)
Well the one thing that appeals to me about the Elura 100 is the analog to digital pass through. If you have any video on VHS, 8mm, etc. and want to import it into your PC, edit it and burn it to DVD, then this feature is a great one to have.
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need to film home- based therapy: candid activity and conversation w/ small children (kgilad1 — 01/17/2007)
These will be used for guiding therapeutic treatment plan. Films will be analyzed by a therapist at frequent intervals. Audio must be excellent and resolution clear. Activities include therapeutic games and verbal interaction. Price range up to $895.00, but would prefer less. I am an absolute novice. Ease of use and ease of editing are paramount.
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by James DeRuvo (01/23/2007)
I'd recommend you consider getting a camera that has an external mic jack. This way you can clip a lavalier mic to your subject for that clear sound you need. And a 3CCD camera will give you good clear image as well. A good option is the Panasonic GS500 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). Word on the street though, is that the GS500 has been discontinued to make ready for a new model. You can still find it available as vendors sell out their existing stock to make ready. And support will still be available for it. It's a tad over your price range, but a good option nonetheless. And if being discontinued, you may be able to get a good price as camera vendors seek to clear out inventory for newer models.
Absent that, I'm a big fan of Canon ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). Particularly the Canon Elura ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). It has widescreen ability, image stabilization, recording in Dolby, and a nifty little feature called analog to digital pass through, which enables you to take those home movies you have on VHS and capture them onto your PC by daisy chaining your VCR through the camera and into the PC via firewire. Then you can edit and burn to DVD as well. Great feature. It also records in Dolby Digital 2ch (AC-3 2 ch). Great sound there.
Some will argue that due to the design, that the Elura can record noise from it's mechanisms being so close to the microphone. My research suggests that this may or may not be a design flaw as many just don't get the noise issue on their videos while some complain they do. I'm not convinced it's a design wide issue and may be due to faulty individual units that need to be repaired or replaced or even unrealistic expectations for the quality of consumer grade camcorder microphones. Still, it's a good solid camera and there are great prices on the link above.
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Absent that, I'm a big fan of Canon ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). Particularly the Canon Elura ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). It has widescreen ability, image stabilization, recording in Dolby, and a nifty little feature called analog to digital pass through, which enables you to take those home movies you have on VHS and capture them onto your PC by daisy chaining your VCR through the camera and into the PC via firewire. Then you can edit and burn to DVD as well. Great feature. It also records in Dolby Digital 2ch (AC-3 2 ch). Great sound there.
Some will argue that due to the design, that the Elura can record noise from it's mechanisms being so close to the microphone. My research suggests that this may or may not be a design flaw as many just don't get the noise issue on their videos while some complain they do. I'm not convinced it's a design wide issue and may be due to faulty individual units that need to be repaired or replaced or even unrealistic expectations for the quality of consumer grade camcorder microphones. Still, it's a good solid camera and there are great prices on the link above.
Piero Foto (01/26/2007)
I would recommend the Elura 100 not only because it delivers big performance for the money, but it will also leave you with extra money to keep within your budget when including accessories and proper lighting to get excellent results when capturing your therapeutic activities.
Keep in mind that there really is no turn key camcorder that is going to give you professional results out of the box. So, if you are trying to achieve the best visual rendition and detail of your subjects to be professionally analyzed, then i am recommending the following equipment that is very simple to use for your professional DV needs and keep with in your budget:
1) 1-Canon Elura 100 -$335
2) 1-Sima Shotgun external mic -$40
(make sure to set your sound in the Elura 100 at 16 bit for best quality)
3) 1-Camcorder side mount bracket with cold shoe for external mic $20
(for professional audio never mount mic directly on camcorder)
4) 2- Lowel Tota-Lights 750 Watt Tungsten Flood Lights -$230
(These lights have an amazing coverage and is as simple to use as turning on a lamp.)
These lights are very compact and can be placed in one spot of the room and never moved through out the whole session. Adjustable reflecting doors can illuminate four walls evenly from a corner, just bounce the light source off the ceiling and they will give off a bright but soft even light that will not distract your subject. These lights will produce an excellent picture quality and redeem the best performance from your DV camcorder.
Size closed: 2" x 3" x 11" (5 x 7.6 x 27.9 cm) Weight less cable: 1.3 lbs. (595 g)
with 16' cable: 2.25 lbs ( 1.02 kg)
Max. wattage: 750w at 120v, 800w at 220/240v
Max. amperage: 6.25 at 120v
Beam control: door angle provides vertical beam control
Fits on: studs 5/8" (1.59 cm) or smaller
Materials: primarily aluminum alloy
Cable: 16' (4.88 m) #18/3 wire
Switch: in-line
5) 2-Bogen / Manfrotto 3360 - Light Stands -$125
(extension up to 8')
6) Cullmann 54110 Euro Uno Tripod with 3-Way Fluid-effect Head -$70
Supports up to 5.5 lb (2.5 kg) DV camcorder
7) Extra Canon Battery -$50
TOTAL $870
Good Luck!
Piero Foto
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Keep in mind that there really is no turn key camcorder that is going to give you professional results out of the box. So, if you are trying to achieve the best visual rendition and detail of your subjects to be professionally analyzed, then i am recommending the following equipment that is very simple to use for your professional DV needs and keep with in your budget:
1) 1-Canon Elura 100 -$335
2) 1-Sima Shotgun external mic -$40
(make sure to set your sound in the Elura 100 at 16 bit for best quality)
3) 1-Camcorder side mount bracket with cold shoe for external mic $20
(for professional audio never mount mic directly on camcorder)
4) 2- Lowel Tota-Lights 750 Watt Tungsten Flood Lights -$230
(These lights have an amazing coverage and is as simple to use as turning on a lamp.)
These lights are very compact and can be placed in one spot of the room and never moved through out the whole session. Adjustable reflecting doors can illuminate four walls evenly from a corner, just bounce the light source off the ceiling and they will give off a bright but soft even light that will not distract your subject. These lights will produce an excellent picture quality and redeem the best performance from your DV camcorder.
Size closed: 2" x 3" x 11" (5 x 7.6 x 27.9 cm) Weight less cable: 1.3 lbs. (595 g)
with 16' cable: 2.25 lbs ( 1.02 kg)
Max. wattage: 750w at 120v, 800w at 220/240v
Max. amperage: 6.25 at 120v
Beam control: door angle provides vertical beam control
Fits on: studs 5/8" (1.59 cm) or smaller
Materials: primarily aluminum alloy
Cable: 16' (4.88 m) #18/3 wire
Switch: in-line
5) 2-Bogen / Manfrotto 3360 - Light Stands -$125
(extension up to 8')
6) Cullmann 54110 Euro Uno Tripod with 3-Way Fluid-effect Head -$70
Supports up to 5.5 lb (2.5 kg) DV camcorder
7) Extra Canon Battery -$50
TOTAL $870
Good Luck!
Piero Foto
kgilad1 (01/26/2007)
Thank you for helping me cut to the chase. I don't have much time to get an education, and need to get up and rolling now as there is a sudden opening in the therapist's schedule.
My child is autistic. I am afraid light stands may be intimidating. Any suggestion for a "side mounted bracket with cold shoe" that could hold mic and light source? Is there such a thing? Is there such a light source? Thank you again for your help. The amount of information I need to sort through RE:therapy is staggering. It's helpful not to have to figure out logistics.
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My child is autistic. I am afraid light stands may be intimidating. Any suggestion for a "side mounted bracket with cold shoe" that could hold mic and light source? Is there such a thing? Is there such a light source? Thank you again for your help. The amount of information I need to sort through RE:therapy is staggering. It's helpful not to have to figure out logistics.
Piero Foto (01/27/2007)
Following items are from Beach Audio: www.beachaudio.com / info@beachaudio.com
- Canon BP-208 battery for Elura 100 (Canon 0802B002)
- Sima SVB-1 2-in-1 Video Bracket (Sima SVB1)
This camcorder bracket can be used on the Elura 100 with the LCD screen door open and can be attached to camcorder for left or right handed grip. It also has two cold shoe mounts that can hold an external mic and small video light.
Personally, I feel that an on camera video light will be much more distracting than a stationary light source when you hit the record button. The on camera video light is usually not effective for full room shots, also, DC operated video lights have a very short battery life.
I am strongly recommending the Tota video light because you don't have to be a movie director of photogrphy(D.O.P) to operate this system, no experience is required and will work very well for your shooting situation. You can either place it on a stand or mount it with a clamp, then just place the video light in a corner of the room and reflect it off the ceiling to give a soft even light source. There will be a little attention when first turning on the light, but just leave it on continuous throughout the video session so that it becomes part of the room lights. This will allow you to move freely with the camcorder and be hardly noticed when you are recording. This Tota light is not a spot light, its a flood light with an impressive light spread of over 180 degree angle. You could get only one, but with two Tota lights, one at each end of the room is much better and will give you professional video picture results with out having to worry about dark shadows or strong highlights. It may seem to sound like a production but its really a very simple process. " 1) Lights 2) Camera 3) Action "
Tota Light $106 each www.adorama.com/LLT110.html
Good Luck!
Piero Foto
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- Canon BP-208 battery for Elura 100 (Canon 0802B002)
- Sima SVB-1 2-in-1 Video Bracket (Sima SVB1)
This camcorder bracket can be used on the Elura 100 with the LCD screen door open and can be attached to camcorder for left or right handed grip. It also has two cold shoe mounts that can hold an external mic and small video light.
Personally, I feel that an on camera video light will be much more distracting than a stationary light source when you hit the record button. The on camera video light is usually not effective for full room shots, also, DC operated video lights have a very short battery life.
I am strongly recommending the Tota video light because you don't have to be a movie director of photogrphy(D.O.P) to operate this system, no experience is required and will work very well for your shooting situation. You can either place it on a stand or mount it with a clamp, then just place the video light in a corner of the room and reflect it off the ceiling to give a soft even light source. There will be a little attention when first turning on the light, but just leave it on continuous throughout the video session so that it becomes part of the room lights. This will allow you to move freely with the camcorder and be hardly noticed when you are recording. This Tota light is not a spot light, its a flood light with an impressive light spread of over 180 degree angle. You could get only one, but with two Tota lights, one at each end of the room is much better and will give you professional video picture results with out having to worry about dark shadows or strong highlights. It may seem to sound like a production but its really a very simple process. " 1) Lights 2) Camera 3) Action "
Tota Light $106 each www.adorama.com/LLT110.html
Good Luck!
Piero Foto
kgilad1 (01/30/2007)
Two more questions:
1. The therapist contacted me and told me to make sure to purchase a wide angle lens - any suggestion for this?
2. Software to edit this stuff. Have PC now. Am considering eventual move to MAC. I will be making frequent tapes, and sending them out every two weeks.
This is all very intimidating: it's scary to make this kind of financial commitment. Thank you again for your time and willingness to assist.
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1. The therapist contacted me and told me to make sure to purchase a wide angle lens - any suggestion for this?
2. Software to edit this stuff. Have PC now. Am considering eventual move to MAC. I will be making frequent tapes, and sending them out every two weeks.
This is all very intimidating: it's scary to make this kind of financial commitment. Thank you again for your time and willingness to assist.
Piero Foto (01/31/2007)
First, how wide is wide that is needed. The Elura 100 has a 20x optical zoom ratio which also means extra wider focal length besides close zoom. You should first test your camcorder focal coverage, then if you are not getting a wide enough coverage as requested, you Will need around a .5x wide angle converter lens that adapts to the existing lens and gives you a wider focal coverage. You can purchase an third party .5x wide conversion lens for about $25-$45, Canon charges way to much. I have a Unpack .5x and I get some nice results, but when it comes to telephoto conversion lenses the quality is much more critical.
Editing software can easily cost more than camcorder itself. The backend investments after purchasing the camcorder can add up pretty fast. My advise to you is to make up your mind right now between PC and MAC and stick with it before you get to deep to change computer platforms later. My choice would be MAC all-the-way, their the best for Audio Visuals. When you buy a MAC, the editing software it is already included and in fact there is even a few choices for movie editing, like: QuickTime movies and DVD movies. You can even choose some automated features in iDV or iMovie and it will do the editing work for you. MAC computers cost more than PC but when you see what the MAC can do, its actually a better deal than the PC.
You need to keep in mind that when you have a question you should start a new question so that others can also be aware of the new qustion, plus I don't get any moe points answering within the same original question, this way you can ask as many questions as you want.
Later!
Pierofoto
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Editing software can easily cost more than camcorder itself. The backend investments after purchasing the camcorder can add up pretty fast. My advise to you is to make up your mind right now between PC and MAC and stick with it before you get to deep to change computer platforms later. My choice would be MAC all-the-way, their the best for Audio Visuals. When you buy a MAC, the editing software it is already included and in fact there is even a few choices for movie editing, like: QuickTime movies and DVD movies. You can even choose some automated features in iDV or iMovie and it will do the editing work for you. MAC computers cost more than PC but when you see what the MAC can do, its actually a better deal than the PC.
You need to keep in mind that when you have a question you should start a new question so that others can also be aware of the new qustion, plus I don't get any moe points answering within the same original question, this way you can ask as many questions as you want.
Later!
Pierofoto
kgilad1 (02/05/2007)
Just a final note to thank you for all of your help. I also appreciate your letting me know that I'm not using the system as it was intended. Next time, I'll be sure and start a new question so that others may benefit. I also regret that your gracious support did not get rewarded with extra points. I'll do better next time. Thanks for your patience. I'll "pay it forward," in your honor whenever and wherever I can.
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Looking for HDD camcorder- but compatible with MAC!! Can it be done!?? (danoty — 01/21/2007)
I bought the Sony HDR-SR1 (being told by Best Buy it was compatible with MAC), but the stupid thing won't work with a MAC or MAC software- (final cut or imovie)... I don't mind something in the same price range- but does anyone know of any other Hard disk, High Definition camaras that'll work for me?? please!!!!
daniel
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daniel
by James DeRuvo (01/22/2007)
Well here's the thing. As you have already eluded to your interest in editing, a hard drive based camcorder may not be the best option for you at this point. Especially the Sony for reasons you've already found it. It just isn't compatible with MAC.
If you want to shoot video and then edit it to take out wasted scenes, add titles and music, etc., the problem you'll have is that with the exception of JVCs Everio line, most hard drive based camcorders shoot video encoded to MPEG2, a compressed format. It's great as an end of the line format, but not for shooting source footage for editing. (JVCs Everio gives you the option of shooting in either MPEG2 or AVI. But the downside is, JVC hasn't been historically compatible with OSX).
With MPEG2 source footage, you will also have to "re-encode" (also called demuxing) the footage into an editable format. It's a hassle for those of us who wish to edit our videos as a hobby.
Oppositely, miniDV cameras ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) are much more robust. Cameras like the Elura 100 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) are much better in format because once you've captured, edited and then burned to DVD, you aren't recompressing already compressed footage, like using the DVD camera would force you into.
I'm a big fan of Canon ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). Particularly the Canon Elura ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). It has widescreen ability, image stabilization, recording in Dolby, and a nifty little feature called analog to digital pass through, which enables you to take those home movies you have on VHS and capture them onto your PC by daisy chaining your VCR through the camera and into the PC via firewire. Then you can edit and burn to DVD as well. Great feature.
Some will argue that due to the design, that the Elura can record noise from it's mechanisms being so close to the microphone. My research suggests that this may or may not be a design flaw as many just don't get the noise issue on their videos while some complain they do. I'm not convinced it's a design wide issue and may be due to faulty individual units that need to be repaired or replaced. Still, it's a good solid camera and there are great prices on the link above.
Another good option is the Panasonic GS500 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). 3CCD camera with both firewire and USB 2.0 for transfer, image stabilization, and recording on miniDV. Word on the street though, is that the GS500 has been discontinued to make ready for a new model. You can still find it available as vendors sell out their existing stock to make ready. And support will still be available for it.
Both these cameras are good solid options. But I'm afraid I can't suggest a hard drive based camcorder for editing at this juncture.
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If you want to shoot video and then edit it to take out wasted scenes, add titles and music, etc., the problem you'll have is that with the exception of JVCs Everio line, most hard drive based camcorders shoot video encoded to MPEG2, a compressed format. It's great as an end of the line format, but not for shooting source footage for editing. (JVCs Everio gives you the option of shooting in either MPEG2 or AVI. But the downside is, JVC hasn't been historically compatible with OSX).
With MPEG2 source footage, you will also have to "re-encode" (also called demuxing) the footage into an editable format. It's a hassle for those of us who wish to edit our videos as a hobby.
Oppositely, miniDV cameras ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) are much more robust. Cameras like the Elura 100 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) are much better in format because once you've captured, edited and then burned to DVD, you aren't recompressing already compressed footage, like using the DVD camera would force you into.
I'm a big fan of Canon ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). Particularly the Canon Elura ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). It has widescreen ability, image stabilization, recording in Dolby, and a nifty little feature called analog to digital pass through, which enables you to take those home movies you have on VHS and capture them onto your PC by daisy chaining your VCR through the camera and into the PC via firewire. Then you can edit and burn to DVD as well. Great feature.
Some will argue that due to the design, that the Elura can record noise from it's mechanisms being so close to the microphone. My research suggests that this may or may not be a design flaw as many just don't get the noise issue on their videos while some complain they do. I'm not convinced it's a design wide issue and may be due to faulty individual units that need to be repaired or replaced. Still, it's a good solid camera and there are great prices on the link above.
Another good option is the Panasonic GS500 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). 3CCD camera with both firewire and USB 2.0 for transfer, image stabilization, and recording on miniDV. Word on the street though, is that the GS500 has been discontinued to make ready for a new model. You can still find it available as vendors sell out their existing stock to make ready. And support will still be available for it.
Both these cameras are good solid options. But I'm afraid I can't suggest a hard drive based camcorder for editing at this juncture.
danoty (01/23/2007)
Hey James-- thanks so much for your info!! You're the camcorder genius!!! :)
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Rich Watson (01/26/2007)
Hi James,
I bought the Canon ZR700, in large part to be able to use the analog-to-digital feature (which I haven't used yet!). At the time, I didn't know the Elura had the same feature, or I probably would have bought that one. There doesn't seem to be the wealth of info on the web about camcorders, like there about digital cameras.
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I bought the Canon ZR700, in large part to be able to use the analog-to-digital feature (which I haven't used yet!). At the time, I didn't know the Elura had the same feature, or I probably would have bought that one. There doesn't seem to be the wealth of info on the web about camcorders, like there about digital cameras.
Do I need extra hardware or software to transfer video from a DV to a DVD? (acezanini — 01/21/2007)
I am trying to buy a video camera to record a wedding ceremony and want the best quality for the cheapest price. I have found that DV has better quality than DVD for the same price, but I am unsure of the ease in which I can transfer the DV video to a DVD. I am open to a DVD camcorder if the transfer process is complicated. The most I am willing to pay is 400 plus tax and what not. I am looking to use a tripod with this camera to it has to have that ability to be mounted on a tripod. Any and all suggestions are welcome. Thank you
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by James DeRuvo (01/22/2007)
Well, let's make it a little easier for you! If you want to shoot video and then edit it to take out wasted scenes, add titles and music, etc., you're taking a hit in video quality by shooting native with a DVD camera ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). This is because the video on DVDs is encoded to MPEG2, a compressed format. It's great as an end of the line format, but not for shooting source footage. Likewise, hard drive based camcorders ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ), while convenient, tend to record in MPEG2 (only JVC gives you an option to record in AVI). This gives you the same problem. Additionally, you will also have to "re-encode" (also called demuxing) the footage into an editable format. It's a hassle for those of us who wish to edit our videos as a hobby.
Oppositely, miniDV cameras ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) are much more robust. Cameras like the Elura 100 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) are much better in format because once you've captured, edited and then burned to DVD, you aren't recompressing already compressed footage, like using the DVD camera would force you into.
Now, let's talk about what PC you're using. Are you a MAC user? If so, it's a good idea to steer clear of SONY ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ), IMHO, as they tend to be incompatible with MAC due to proprietary issues. They do, however, work just fine with PCs, go figure.
I'm a big fan of Canon ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). Particularly the Canon Elura ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). It has widescreen ability, image stabilization, recording in Dolby, and a nifty little feature called analog to digital pass through, which enables you to take those home movies you have on VHS and capture them onto your PC by daisy chaining your VCR through the camera and into the PC via firewire. Then you can edit and burn to DVD as well. Great feature.
Some will argue that due to the design, that the Elura can record noise from it's mechanisms being so close to the microphone. My research suggests that this may or may not be a design flaw as many just don't get the noise issue on their videos while some complain they do. I'm not convinced it's a design wide issue and may be due to faulty individual units that need to be repaired or replaced. Still, it's a good solid camera and there are great prices on the link above.
Canon announced some upgrades to its ZR-line of miniDV camcorders. The Canon ZR800, 830, and 850 will replace the ZR500, 600, and 700 as the company's budget video cameras. While these new models offer only minor improvements over their predecessors, they're welcome offerings ...
With a price difference of just $80 between models, the three offer similar features. All are relatively low resolution, with 680,000-pixel sensors on the ZR800 and ZR830 and a 1-megapixel sensor on the ZR850. All three use the same 35X zoom lens, and feature *electronic* image stabilization to reduce shake. Of course, any magnification over about 12X is usually going to be shaky without a tripod, regardless of the anti-shake features. Finally, all three camcorders have a 2.7-inch 16:9 widescreen LCD for framing shots.
The ZR830 and ZR850 include a new QuickStart feature, a modified standby mode that Canon claims draws 50 percent less power. All three camcorders also feature SecureDigital card slots, and the ZR830 and ZR850 support SDHC cards with capacities of 4 GB and higher. While the ZR800 doesn't feature QuickStart, it's the only one among the three to offer an external microphone port. ZR830 and ZR850 users have to make due with the camera's built-in mic.
The Canon ZR800, ZR830, and ZR850 ship later this month, with suggested price tags of $280, $300, and $353, respectively.
As for software. If you own a MAC, you have everything you need thanks to ILife, which comes free with it. You can capture, edit and burn to DVD and it comes out great. Very easy and very professional looking.
On the PC side, I recommend Adobe Premiere Elements. It's about $99 and will be all you ever need to make great quality videos and burn them to DVD. Although for a burning platform, I like NERO.
I hope that helps.
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Oppositely, miniDV cameras ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) are much more robust. Cameras like the Elura 100 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) are much better in format because once you've captured, edited and then burned to DVD, you aren't recompressing already compressed footage, like using the DVD camera would force you into.
Now, let's talk about what PC you're using. Are you a MAC user? If so, it's a good idea to steer clear of SONY ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ), IMHO, as they tend to be incompatible with MAC due to proprietary issues. They do, however, work just fine with PCs, go figure.
I'm a big fan of Canon ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). Particularly the Canon Elura ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). It has widescreen ability, image stabilization, recording in Dolby, and a nifty little feature called analog to digital pass through, which enables you to take those home movies you have on VHS and capture them onto your PC by daisy chaining your VCR through the camera and into the PC via firewire. Then you can edit and burn to DVD as well. Great feature.
Some will argue that due to the design, that the Elura can record noise from it's mechanisms being so close to the microphone. My research suggests that this may or may not be a design flaw as many just don't get the noise issue on their videos while some complain they do. I'm not convinced it's a design wide issue and may be due to faulty individual units that need to be repaired or replaced. Still, it's a good solid camera and there are great prices on the link above.
Canon announced some upgrades to its ZR-line of miniDV camcorders. The Canon ZR800, 830, and 850 will replace the ZR500, 600, and 700 as the company's budget video cameras. While these new models offer only minor improvements over their predecessors, they're welcome offerings ...
With a price difference of just $80 between models, the three offer similar features. All are relatively low resolution, with 680,000-pixel sensors on the ZR800 and ZR830 and a 1-megapixel sensor on the ZR850. All three use the same 35X zoom lens, and feature *electronic* image stabilization to reduce shake. Of course, any magnification over about 12X is usually going to be shaky without a tripod, regardless of the anti-shake features. Finally, all three camcorders have a 2.7-inch 16:9 widescreen LCD for framing shots.
The ZR830 and ZR850 include a new QuickStart feature, a modified standby mode that Canon claims draws 50 percent less power. All three camcorders also feature SecureDigital card slots, and the ZR830 and ZR850 support SDHC cards with capacities of 4 GB and higher. While the ZR800 doesn't feature QuickStart, it's the only one among the three to offer an external microphone port. ZR830 and ZR850 users have to make due with the camera's built-in mic.
The Canon ZR800, ZR830, and ZR850 ship later this month, with suggested price tags of $280, $300, and $353, respectively.
As for software. If you own a MAC, you have everything you need thanks to ILife, which comes free with it. You can capture, edit and burn to DVD and it comes out great. Very easy and very professional looking.
On the PC side, I recommend Adobe Premiere Elements. It's about $99 and will be all you ever need to make great quality videos and burn them to DVD. Although for a burning platform, I like NERO.
I hope that helps.
Piero Foto (02/28/2007)
Hi, Angella.
Well here it is, if you want a good reliable quality of a point and shoot camcorder with no training, but still have the options for creative fun or maybe have the ability to fine tune your video controls to get even better results if shooting specific situations like indoor social functions, sports, fireworks, and etc. then the I am highly recommending the Canon Elura 100, a great all around mainstream camcorder on the market that delivers big performance with an impressive picture quality for the money, retailed as low as $295. It is a very veratile DV camcorder for just about any type shooting style and is action packed with features for when you need to use them. This is truly a camcorder that you will not grow out of or least for a long while. The Elura can be used by beginners to the demanding consumers.
The Elura 100 is a great choice for movie editing on MAC or PC. It uses mini DV tapes is a preferred choice by professionals because tapes does do not compress the video data information which in turn produces the best quality for video transfers to DVD and works like a charm with movie editing software. The Elura is one of a rare few that comes with an external mic option, this is a great feature for improving sound quality like at concerts, sporting events, airshows, church wedding ceremonies, and etc. For even better audio the Elura can also use wireless mic systems that will record distant sounds and voices like from the groom and bride at the alter. Plus, the audio dubbing feature can allow you to add music or voice over to your video footage from an external mic or audio device without a computer.
Computers now days usually come with some type of movie software. If your computer does have it, then your camcorder should be detected automatically on a PC., for Mac you will need to open the iMovie software. For burning a DVD your movie software will give you some video conversion options for quality first, then you will be able to burn a DVD, that's if you have a DVD burner in your computer.
THE ELURA 100 OPERATES AT 3 LEVELS, FOR THE BASIC CONSUMER TO THE ADVANCED VIDEOOGRAPHER:
1) Easy Mode: This feature gives you a fully automatic point-and-shoot camcorder. This is a great feature for people that just want to turn the camcorder on and hit record. With this feature the Elura does all the thinking for you and generally produces nice results.
2) Scene Selection: The Elura offers 8 auto scene selection modes for capturing scenes from fireworks display, night scenes, bright beach scenes to fast action sports. These settings are preset from Canon. The exposure, focus, shutter speed and color balance are preset differently for each scene, so you don't even have to think or fuss with settings, for e.g.: the sport scene mode would be automatically set to a higher shutter speed to capture fast motions for a crisper picture by eliminating the motion blur. You can also manually add special effects in combination with the scene selections.
3) Custom manual mode: Manual functions are a big bonus for any DV camcorder. This is where you can not only be experimental, but also control your video the way you want. With manual functions you can fine tune your settings to best suit your personal scene conditions, for e.g.: just with sports, video recording Hockey vs Baseball, the two scene conditions are totally different even though there both classified as sports. So in this situation you would need to adjust the exposure to compensate for the ice rink brightness and then you will have the perfect capture. The easymode feature in many shooting conditions is usually intelligent enough to automatically make these adjustments for you, but the manual mode is more stable for when you need it.
If you plan to edit your movies on a computer so you can cut out unwanted video footage, and or maybe add special effects, music and titles, or just transfer the entire footage onto DVD, then mini DV tapes is the best way to go for quality.
Mini DVD Disc and Hard Drive camcorders are limited and record in a compressed MPEG2 format which are fine if your intentions are just to shoot and leave the video footage in its original media format for viewing playback only. They are not as computer friendly as mini tape with editing software or transferring to DVD on your computer, also the image quality will not be as good when transferred. The mini DVD disc camcorder has the advantage of putting the disc in direct to a DVD player after recording. The hard drive camcorder is nice because it gives you a big storage space to accumulate allot of video footage without ever any need to change your recording media, but if the hard drive melfunctions some how, or the camcorder gets damaged, or gets stolen, then it will be good bye to all your recorded memories if you haven't backed it up.
If you are thinking about video taping weddings as a business, then here is some suggestions of what to get or what you will need to get started.
1) 1-Canon Elura 100 -$305 (low average price)
2) 1-Sima Shotgun external mic -$40
(make sure to set your sound in the Elura 100 at 16 bit for best quality)
3) 1-Sima SVB-1 2-in-1 Video Bracket (Sima SVB1) - $20
(for professional audio never mount mic directly on camcorder)
This camcorder bracket can be used on the Elura 100 with the LCD screen door open and can be attached to camcorder for left or right handed grip. It also has two cold shoe mounts that can hold an external mic and small video fill-in light.
4) 1-Sima camcorder LED light - $45
(this is a nice rechargeable fill-in light for closer subject shots, interior or exterior scenes)
5) 2- Lowel Tota-Lights 750 Watt Tungsten Flood Lights -$230
(These lights have an amazing coverage and is as simple to use)
These lights are very light weight and compact which can be placed in one spot of the room and rarely moved through out the whole shooting session. Adjustable reflecting doors can illuminate four walls evenly from a corner, just bounce the light source off the ceiling or place them at a height between 10ft.- 12ft. in larger rooms for direct lighting and they will give off a bright but soft even light that will not distract your subject. These lights will produce an excellent picture quality and redeem the best performance from your DV camcorder.
Size closed: 2" x 3" x 11" (5 x 7.6 x 27.9 cm) Weight less cable: 1.3 lbs. (595 g)
with 16' cable: 2.25 lbs ( 1.02 kg)
Max. wattage: 750w at 120v, 800w at 220/240v
Max. amperage: 6.25 at 120v
Beam control: door angle provides vertical beam control
Fits on: studs 5/8" (1.59 cm) or smaller
Materials: primarily aluminum alloy
Cable: 16' (4.88 m) #18/3 wire
Switch: in-line
6) 2-Photoflex LS-2218 Heavy Duty Light Stands - Black - $135
(extension up to 11' - sand bags could be used for more stability at full extension use)
7) Cullmann 54110 Euro Uno Tripod with 3-Way Fluid-effect Head -$70
Supports up to 5.5 lb (2.5 kg) DV camcorder
8) 1-Canon BP-208 battery for Elura 100 (Canon 0802B002 -$50
9) 2-50ft. A/C extension cords - $50
(these extra cords will come in very handy in wedding halls)
Your Pro-Kit to get started TOTAL $925
Here are other websites to help you find some of the equipment not found on this site -www.beachaudio.com -www.bhphotovideo.com
Its been a while since you asked your question, if you still need more advice I would suggest to close off this question by picking an answer and then start a new one so it can be viewed as a new question, thanks!
Good Luck Shopping!
Piero Foto
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Well here it is, if you want a good reliable quality of a point and shoot camcorder with no training, but still have the options for creative fun or maybe have the ability to fine tune your video controls to get even better results if shooting specific situations like indoor social functions, sports, fireworks, and etc. then the I am highly recommending the Canon Elura 100, a great all around mainstream camcorder on the market that delivers big performance with an impressive picture quality for the money, retailed as low as $295. It is a very veratile DV camcorder for just about any type shooting style and is action packed with features for when you need to use them. This is truly a camcorder that you will not grow out of or least for a long while. The Elura can be used by beginners to the demanding consumers.
The Elura 100 is a great choice for movie editing on MAC or PC. It uses mini DV tapes is a preferred choice by professionals because tapes does do not compress the video data information which in turn produces the best quality for video transfers to DVD and works like a charm with movie editing software. The Elura is one of a rare few that comes with an external mic option, this is a great feature for improving sound quality like at concerts, sporting events, airshows, church wedding ceremonies, and etc. For even better audio the Elura can also use wireless mic systems that will record distant sounds and voices like from the groom and bride at the alter. Plus, the audio dubbing feature can allow you to add music or voice over to your video footage from an external mic or audio device without a computer.
Computers now days usually come with some type of movie software. If your computer does have it, then your camcorder should be detected automatically on a PC., for Mac you will need to open the iMovie software. For burning a DVD your movie software will give you some video conversion options for quality first, then you will be able to burn a DVD, that's if you have a DVD burner in your computer.
THE ELURA 100 OPERATES AT 3 LEVELS, FOR THE BASIC CONSUMER TO THE ADVANCED VIDEOOGRAPHER:
1) Easy Mode: This feature gives you a fully automatic point-and-shoot camcorder. This is a great feature for people that just want to turn the camcorder on and hit record. With this feature the Elura does all the thinking for you and generally produces nice results.
2) Scene Selection: The Elura offers 8 auto scene selection modes for capturing scenes from fireworks display, night scenes, bright beach scenes to fast action sports. These settings are preset from Canon. The exposure, focus, shutter speed and color balance are preset differently for each scene, so you don't even have to think or fuss with settings, for e.g.: the sport scene mode would be automatically set to a higher shutter speed to capture fast motions for a crisper picture by eliminating the motion blur. You can also manually add special effects in combination with the scene selections.
3) Custom manual mode: Manual functions are a big bonus for any DV camcorder. This is where you can not only be experimental, but also control your video the way you want. With manual functions you can fine tune your settings to best suit your personal scene conditions, for e.g.: just with sports, video recording Hockey vs Baseball, the two scene conditions are totally different even though there both classified as sports. So in this situation you would need to adjust the exposure to compensate for the ice rink brightness and then you will have the perfect capture. The easymode feature in many shooting conditions is usually intelligent enough to automatically make these adjustments for you, but the manual mode is more stable for when you need it.
If you plan to edit your movies on a computer so you can cut out unwanted video footage, and or maybe add special effects, music and titles, or just transfer the entire footage onto DVD, then mini DV tapes is the best way to go for quality.
Mini DVD Disc and Hard Drive camcorders are limited and record in a compressed MPEG2 format which are fine if your intentions are just to shoot and leave the video footage in its original media format for viewing playback only. They are not as computer friendly as mini tape with editing software or transferring to DVD on your computer, also the image quality will not be as good when transferred. The mini DVD disc camcorder has the advantage of putting the disc in direct to a DVD player after recording. The hard drive camcorder is nice because it gives you a big storage space to accumulate allot of video footage without ever any need to change your recording media, but if the hard drive melfunctions some how, or the camcorder gets damaged, or gets stolen, then it will be good bye to all your recorded memories if you haven't backed it up.
If you are thinking about video taping weddings as a business, then here is some suggestions of what to get or what you will need to get started.
1) 1-Canon Elura 100 -$305 (low average price)
2) 1-Sima Shotgun external mic -$40
(make sure to set your sound in the Elura 100 at 16 bit for best quality)
3) 1-Sima SVB-1 2-in-1 Video Bracket (Sima SVB1) - $20
(for professional audio never mount mic directly on camcorder)
This camcorder bracket can be used on the Elura 100 with the LCD screen door open and can be attached to camcorder for left or right handed grip. It also has two cold shoe mounts that can hold an external mic and small video fill-in light.
4) 1-Sima camcorder LED light - $45
(this is a nice rechargeable fill-in light for closer subject shots, interior or exterior scenes)
5) 2- Lowel Tota-Lights 750 Watt Tungsten Flood Lights -$230
(These lights have an amazing coverage and is as simple to use)
These lights are very light weight and compact which can be placed in one spot of the room and rarely moved through out the whole shooting session. Adjustable reflecting doors can illuminate four walls evenly from a corner, just bounce the light source off the ceiling or place them at a height between 10ft.- 12ft. in larger rooms for direct lighting and they will give off a bright but soft even light that will not distract your subject. These lights will produce an excellent picture quality and redeem the best performance from your DV camcorder.
Size closed: 2" x 3" x 11" (5 x 7.6 x 27.9 cm) Weight less cable: 1.3 lbs. (595 g)
with 16' cable: 2.25 lbs ( 1.02 kg)
Max. wattage: 750w at 120v, 800w at 220/240v
Max. amperage: 6.25 at 120v
Beam control: door angle provides vertical beam control
Fits on: studs 5/8" (1.59 cm) or smaller
Materials: primarily aluminum alloy
Cable: 16' (4.88 m) #18/3 wire
Switch: in-line
6) 2-Photoflex LS-2218 Heavy Duty Light Stands - Black - $135
(extension up to 11' - sand bags could be used for more stability at full extension use)
7) Cullmann 54110 Euro Uno Tripod with 3-Way Fluid-effect Head -$70
Supports up to 5.5 lb (2.5 kg) DV camcorder
8) 1-Canon BP-208 battery for Elura 100 (Canon 0802B002 -$50
9) 2-50ft. A/C extension cords - $50
(these extra cords will come in very handy in wedding halls)
Your Pro-Kit to get started TOTAL $925
Here are other websites to help you find some of the equipment not found on this site -www.beachaudio.com -www.bhphotovideo.com
Its been a while since you asked your question, if you still need more advice I would suggest to close off this question by picking an answer and then start a new one so it can be viewed as a new question, thanks!
Good Luck Shopping!
Piero Foto
Piero Foto (03/26/2007)
Hi, Angela.
You can either burn DVDs by computer transfer or by external burners. You will need some type of supporting software on your computer for your DV cam depending if its PC or Mac. An easy way is to get an external DVD burner like the sony DVDirect - VRD-MC1 external dvd recorder and by pass the computer all to together.
Hope this helps you out.
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You can either burn DVDs by computer transfer or by external burners. You will need some type of supporting software on your computer for your DV cam depending if its PC or Mac. An easy way is to get an external DVD burner like the sony DVDirect - VRD-MC1 external dvd recorder and by pass the computer all to together.
Hope this helps you out.
Am I better off with a harddrive camcorder or DVD?? (Tonydiii — 01/22/2007)
I have been shopping for a camcorder and I am getting mixed answers on which is better? a DVD or a harddrive camcorder??
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by James DeRuvo (01/22/2007)
The short answer is, it doesn't really matter quality wise as both record in MPEG2. The difference being that a DVD camcorder allows you to take that DVD and pop it into your set top dvd player and watch it. Whereas, a hard drive based camcorder will require you to transfer the footage to a PC and burn to DVD before playing it in your DVD player in the living room.
However, I think it's important to point out that if you want to shoot video and then edit it to take out wasted scenes, add titles and music, etc., you're taking a hit in video quality by shooting native with a HDD ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) or DVD camera ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). This is because the video is encoded to MPEG2, a compressed format. It's great as an end of the line format, but not for shooting source footage. Additionally, you will also have to "re-encode" (also called demuxing) the footage into an editable format. It's a hassle for those of us who wish to edit our videos as a hobby.
Oppositely, miniDV cameras ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) are much more robust. Cameras like the Elura 100 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) are much better in format because once you've captured, edited and then burned to DVD, you aren't recompressing already compressed footage, like using the DVD or Hard Drive based cameras would force you into.
There is one exception to this. JVCs Everio line offers you the option of shooting AVI files instead of MPEG2.
I hope that helps.
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However, I think it's important to point out that if you want to shoot video and then edit it to take out wasted scenes, add titles and music, etc., you're taking a hit in video quality by shooting native with a HDD ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) or DVD camera ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). This is because the video is encoded to MPEG2, a compressed format. It's great as an end of the line format, but not for shooting source footage. Additionally, you will also have to "re-encode" (also called demuxing) the footage into an editable format. It's a hassle for those of us who wish to edit our videos as a hobby.
Oppositely, miniDV cameras ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) are much more robust. Cameras like the Elura 100 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) are much better in format because once you've captured, edited and then burned to DVD, you aren't recompressing already compressed footage, like using the DVD or Hard Drive based cameras would force you into.
There is one exception to this. JVCs Everio line offers you the option of shooting AVI files instead of MPEG2.
I hope that helps.
Piero Foto (03/19/2007)
Hi Tony.
I don't know if you have purchased your camcorder yet, but i will take a chance to answer your question since its still remains open and looks like you still might need another opinion.
If I had to choose. The hard drive would be a much better choice over DVD. With the DVD camcorder, you are pretty well stuck with what you shoot, you really can't do any else with the recording. At least the hard drive camcorder there is some light at the end of the tunnel for transferring video and burning to DVD later.
Truthfully, the professional choice is miniDv. MiniDV tape is best for overall versatility between the three video formats. It works well with editing software, transferring, making DVD's. Plus, the copies look the best when transferred. If that's not your concern then it doesn't matter.
The botton is this: if its between the hard drive camcorder over the DVD camcorder. Get the hard drive all the way.
Happy Shopping!
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I don't know if you have purchased your camcorder yet, but i will take a chance to answer your question since its still remains open and looks like you still might need another opinion.
If I had to choose. The hard drive would be a much better choice over DVD. With the DVD camcorder, you are pretty well stuck with what you shoot, you really can't do any else with the recording. At least the hard drive camcorder there is some light at the end of the tunnel for transferring video and burning to DVD later.
Truthfully, the professional choice is miniDv. MiniDV tape is best for overall versatility between the three video formats. It works well with editing software, transferring, making DVD's. Plus, the copies look the best when transferred. If that's not your concern then it doesn't matter.
The botton is this: if its between the hard drive camcorder over the DVD camcorder. Get the hard drive all the way.
Happy Shopping!
by James DeRuvo (04/02/2007)
Actually, Piero, you can rip the dvd and then re-encode the footage into a more editable format. You'll take a hit in quality doing it, but to say "you can't do anything else with the recording" isn't really true. You just wouldn't like the outcome once you did!
Then again, with most Hard drive based camcorders shooting in MPEG2 (only Sharp gives you an AVI option that I've found), there really isn't much difference there as well.
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Then again, with most Hard drive based camcorders shooting in MPEG2 (only Sharp gives you an AVI option that I've found), there really isn't much difference there as well.
Piero Foto (04/02/2007)
Thanks James!
I am aware of different digital file format software converters and all of that, but you are right, you will take a hit in quality anyway.
At the end of tha day, I realize that the best system is really to stay completely away from these formats and use the miniDv tape system.
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I am aware of different digital file format software converters and all of that, but you are right, you will take a hit in quality anyway.
At the end of tha day, I realize that the best system is really to stay completely away from these formats and use the miniDv tape system.
by James DeRuvo (04/02/2007)
Unless, as I previously mentioned, you look at Sharp's hard drive based camcorders. They do give you the option of shooting in AVI. I don't understand why other camcorder makers don't give this option.
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Piero Foto (04/02/2007)
Hey, James.
According to the newer camcorders, I am noticing that the AVI function seems to be popping up more now in camcorders.
How is AVI format compared to MPEG or other formats, I am reading mixed reviews. Is AVI a file format or another type media video data system.
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According to the newer camcorders, I am noticing that the AVI function seems to be popping up more now in camcorders.
How is AVI format compared to MPEG or other formats, I am reading mixed reviews. Is AVI a file format or another type media video data system.
by James DeRuvo (04/02/2007)
Wiki has all you need to know on the subject ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audio... ). It's much better than MPEG2. But like Quicktime, it largely depends on what codec you use to encode with.
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Piero Foto (04/02/2007)
Thanks again, James!
I will look into it.
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I will look into it.
by James DeRuvo (09/06/2007)
Hi, Tony, I noticed that you haven't marked any replies as the "best answer." Are you still looking for an answer? If so, I recommend you re-submit it on digitalcamera-hq.com so it will have a better chance of being noticed. These days it looks like most questions are being answered within a few days.
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My wife got a Merkury Lithium Ion AC/DC rapid charger for my Elura 100, but the pkg says it's for Canon BP 308, 315 series; is it OK for BP208? (birder1944 — 01/24/2007)
She also just got me the camcorder, and I haven't even used it yet. Still digesting the manual. Seems way too complicated. I need to find settings where I can basically just use it as a point-n-shoot for a while. I'm hoping to use it to get videos of songbirds and then be able to pull out single frames to print.
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Piero Foto (03/19/2007)
Hi, Albert.
Once you have transferred any analog to to miniDv or computer the options are virtually unlimited of making stills, and etc.
The easy mode switch will take care of all the complicated issues.
If you your wife picked the Elura from research, then she is a smart lady. If she chose the Elura 100 by chance, then its a great lucky choice. Either way you are very lucky and should proud to own one, The Elura 100 delivers big performance for the money.
Right now its very difficult to find one and has increases in price to $500 for even a refurbished one. Its the only camcorder that I know of that has ever sold well over list price.
Enjoy!
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Once you have transferred any analog to to miniDv or computer the options are virtually unlimited of making stills, and etc.
The easy mode switch will take care of all the complicated issues.
If you your wife picked the Elura from research, then she is a smart lady. If she chose the Elura 100 by chance, then its a great lucky choice. Either way you are very lucky and should proud to own one, The Elura 100 delivers big performance for the money.
Right now its very difficult to find one and has increases in price to $500 for even a refurbished one. Its the only camcorder that I know of that has ever sold well over list price.
Enjoy!
How can I find a new miniDV camcorder that has the picture quality of my old JVC GR-DVL505U? (mom-of-boys — 01/26/2007)
The focus on my JVC broke. I did some online research and bought a Panosonic PV-GS31 in 2005. I've used it for a year. Tried different settings and environments, but the playback quality is not nearly as clear as the tapes recorded on my old JVC. The picture in the LCD display looks clear, but when I plug the RCA cables into my TV and play it there, it is grainy with blurry edges. I can use the exact same playback for my old tapes that were recorded using the JVC, and they are clear with sharp edges on the TV. Am I doing something wrong, or is my old camera simply better than my new one? Is there a camera out there as good as my old JVC? Or should I just get the old one repaired?
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Rich Watson (01/27/2007)
For what it's worth, I bought a (digital) Sony camcorder in 2004. A few months ago, it started giving me problems. So I replaced it with a Canon ZR700. I was really amazed at the increase in the quality of the picture.
I am not trying to knock Sony. I honestly don't know if the Sony was as good as the Canon, (perhaps it was better than the Canon when the Sony was brand-new). Or did the image quality gradually diminish over time? But there was a startling improvement over the Sony, at that point when I first used the Canon. The picture quality is excellent. So I am pleased with the Canon. And I like the DV-tape format, it is easy to use with the PC.
Repair vs. Replace: I didn't even consider repairing the Sony. It was $400 new. I had a feeling that a repair shop would want (A) A deposit for "checking the unit out" ---probably $30 or more and (B) Incur a repair cost of $100 or more.
So, I feel that I would have be throwing good money after bad. I bought the new camcorder for about $340. Not only is it new, but (possibly) better engineered (since it has been 2 1/2 years since the Sony), with more features, etc.
Rich
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I am not trying to knock Sony. I honestly don't know if the Sony was as good as the Canon, (perhaps it was better than the Canon when the Sony was brand-new). Or did the image quality gradually diminish over time? But there was a startling improvement over the Sony, at that point when I first used the Canon. The picture quality is excellent. So I am pleased with the Canon. And I like the DV-tape format, it is easy to use with the PC.
Repair vs. Replace: I didn't even consider repairing the Sony. It was $400 new. I had a feeling that a repair shop would want (A) A deposit for "checking the unit out" ---probably $30 or more and (B) Incur a repair cost of $100 or more.
So, I feel that I would have be throwing good money after bad. I bought the new camcorder for about $340. Not only is it new, but (possibly) better engineered (since it has been 2 1/2 years since the Sony), with more features, etc.
Rich
by James DeRuvo (02/08/2007)
My first reaction is to ask what kind of RCA cables you're using. If they're the ones that came with the camera, no wonder. They are largely unshielded, the cheapest cables possible. And as such, you are losing a lion's share of the video/audio signal through leakage.
Using quality, shielded cables definitely make a difference. I'm not saying you have to go out and drop $50 on Monster cables or anything. But I use them and the difference is night and day. And there are companies that will make them custom for you for a fraction of what Monster charges.
I do agree with Ricio about Canon, and am a big fan of their line ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) of minDV camcorders. Particularly the Canon Elura ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). It has widescreen ability, image stabilization, digital still camera and a nifty little feature called analog to digital pass through, which enables you to take those home movies you have on VHS and capture them onto your PC by daisy chaining your VCR through the camera and into the PC via firewire. Then you can edit and burn to DVD as well. Great feature.
It's total pixel count is 1.3MP for the camcorder as it uses a chip that's about 1/5". One of the best in the field.
Another option, albeit a more expensive one, is the Panasonic GS500 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). 3CCD (1070K on each) camera with both firewire and USB 2.0 for transfer, image stabilization, and recording on miniDV. Word on the street though, is that the GS500 has been discontinued soon to make ready for a new model. You can still find it available as vendors sell out their existing stock to make ready. And support will still be available for it for quite some time.
Both these cameras are good solid options.
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Using quality, shielded cables definitely make a difference. I'm not saying you have to go out and drop $50 on Monster cables or anything. But I use them and the difference is night and day. And there are companies that will make them custom for you for a fraction of what Monster charges.
I do agree with Ricio about Canon, and am a big fan of their line ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) of minDV camcorders. Particularly the Canon Elura ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). It has widescreen ability, image stabilization, digital still camera and a nifty little feature called analog to digital pass through, which enables you to take those home movies you have on VHS and capture them onto your PC by daisy chaining your VCR through the camera and into the PC via firewire. Then you can edit and burn to DVD as well. Great feature.
It's total pixel count is 1.3MP for the camcorder as it uses a chip that's about 1/5". One of the best in the field.
Another option, albeit a more expensive one, is the Panasonic GS500 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). 3CCD (1070K on each) camera with both firewire and USB 2.0 for transfer, image stabilization, and recording on miniDV. Word on the street though, is that the GS500 has been discontinued soon to make ready for a new model. You can still find it available as vendors sell out their existing stock to make ready. And support will still be available for it for quite some time.
Both these cameras are good solid options.
Piero Foto (03/19/2007)
Hi Adrianne.
Have you purchased your camcorder yet. I am just following up with you to see if you need any further advice to your original question.
Just to let you know that digital advisors on this website like Richio, James and my self use up our own personal time and reseach efforts of responding to questions to help consumers like yourself at no charge. So, we would like to get feed back from consumers such as yourself when questions remain open to conclude and bring the question to a close.
We will be more than happy to answer any new questions you wish to post in the future.
Thank you in Advance.
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Have you purchased your camcorder yet. I am just following up with you to see if you need any further advice to your original question.
Just to let you know that digital advisors on this website like Richio, James and my self use up our own personal time and reseach efforts of responding to questions to help consumers like yourself at no charge. So, we would like to get feed back from consumers such as yourself when questions remain open to conclude and bring the question to a close.
We will be more than happy to answer any new questions you wish to post in the future.
Thank you in Advance.
mom-of-boys (03/19/2007)
Thank you all for your responses. I have been doing research myself. Between the two cameras, all playback material being equal, the JVC picture quality is definitely better. This is particularly true for filming done indoors and not very noticeable in outdoor settings. I have concluded that the difference stems from the lense difference between the two cameras. The JVC, being older, has a much bigger lens than the Panasonic. I've looked into getting a similar size lense on a newer camera, but those lenses now tend to be in the top of the price range. Thank you again for your responses.
-Adrianne
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-Adrianne
by James DeRuvo (03/20/2007)
Adrianne, just make sure that if you have a MAC that the JVC is compatible with OSX. If you don't, then no worries at all.
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Piero Foto (03/20/2007)
Hi, Adrianne
You must select one response for best answer to close question.
Thanks!
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You must select one response for best answer to close question.
Thanks!
Recommendation for camcorder to record bands in low light clubs? (bandmama — 02/04/2007)
Need something that gives good sound recordings and capable of recording in low light conditions (bars, nightclubs).
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by James DeRuvo (02/07/2007)
So far, the best camcorder for low light that I have found is the Canon Elura ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ), which has a 2 lux low light rating (close to zero, the better).
The onboard mic is more directional than most consumer camcorders, which means that ambient noise won't get picks up outside the camcorder's angle of view.
A nice feature when recording in the areas you're planning on using it since crowd noise could become a problem. The mic does have a range, however, and drops off significantly past about 30-feet range, so get close or, better yet, make use of the microphone input and plug into the sound system.
It also has widescreen ability, image stabilization, rand a nifty little feature called analog to digital pass through, which enables you to take those home movies you have on VHS and capture them onto your PC by daisy chaining your VCR through the camera and into the PC via firewire. Then you can edit and burn to DVD as well. Great feature.
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The onboard mic is more directional than most consumer camcorders, which means that ambient noise won't get picks up outside the camcorder's angle of view.
A nice feature when recording in the areas you're planning on using it since crowd noise could become a problem. The mic does have a range, however, and drops off significantly past about 30-feet range, so get close or, better yet, make use of the microphone input and plug into the sound system.
It also has widescreen ability, image stabilization, rand a nifty little feature called analog to digital pass through, which enables you to take those home movies you have on VHS and capture them onto your PC by daisy chaining your VCR through the camera and into the PC via firewire. Then you can edit and burn to DVD as well. Great feature.
What is the best camera for film making (Estavon7679 — 02/05/2007)
I am going to Mexico for volunteer work in May. I am an inspired filmmaker/writer. I am also young and know almost nothing about cameras. I want to make a film or at least shoot while I'm in Mexico. What camera would be best for my situation, and what equipment do i need with this camera. I would rather not spend more then $500 but my budget is very flexible. Please, somebody help me. Thanks.
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by James DeRuvo (02/05/2007)
Well, frankly, I would stick with a cheaper camcorder just in case it either gets lost or stolen while you're out of the country. I would also stick with miniDV cameras ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). You will shoot on tape and as such, won't end up losing your footage should it get stolen, like you would with a hard drive based camera.
I'm a big fan of Canon ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). Particularly the Canon Elura ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). It has widescreen ability, image stabilization, recording in Dolby, and a nifty little feature called analog to digital pass through, which enables you to take those home movies you have on VHS and capture them onto your PC by daisy chaining your VCR through the camera and into the PC via firewire. Then you can edit and burn to DVD as well. Great feature.
Some will argue that due to the design, that the Elura can record noise from it's mechanisms being so close to the microphone. My research suggests that this may or may not be a design flaw as many just don't get the noise issue on their videos while some complain they do. I'm not convinced it's a design wide issue and may be due to faulty individual units that need to be repaired or replaced. Still, it's a good solid camera and there are great prices on the link above.
Another good option is the Panasonic GS500 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). 3CCD camera with both firewire and USB 2.0 for transfer, image stabilization, and recording on miniDV. Word on the street though, is that the GS500 has been discontinued to make ready for a new model. You can still find it available as vendors sell out their existing stock to make ready. And support will still be available for it.
Both these cameras are good solid options.
Also, I'd check with where you are travelling to verify what power they use as you will need to recharge batteries while you're there. Make sure you have any power adapters before you go. Pck up one or two extra batteries. And get a 1A skylight filter for the lens. It's the best insurance policy against impact damage you can buy.
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I'm a big fan of Canon ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). Particularly the Canon Elura ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). It has widescreen ability, image stabilization, recording in Dolby, and a nifty little feature called analog to digital pass through, which enables you to take those home movies you have on VHS and capture them onto your PC by daisy chaining your VCR through the camera and into the PC via firewire. Then you can edit and burn to DVD as well. Great feature.
Some will argue that due to the design, that the Elura can record noise from it's mechanisms being so close to the microphone. My research suggests that this may or may not be a design flaw as many just don't get the noise issue on their videos while some complain they do. I'm not convinced it's a design wide issue and may be due to faulty individual units that need to be repaired or replaced. Still, it's a good solid camera and there are great prices on the link above.
Another good option is the Panasonic GS500 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). 3CCD camera with both firewire and USB 2.0 for transfer, image stabilization, and recording on miniDV. Word on the street though, is that the GS500 has been discontinued to make ready for a new model. You can still find it available as vendors sell out their existing stock to make ready. And support will still be available for it.
Both these cameras are good solid options.
Also, I'd check with where you are travelling to verify what power they use as you will need to recharge batteries while you're there. Make sure you have any power adapters before you go. Pck up one or two extra batteries. And get a 1A skylight filter for the lens. It's the best insurance policy against impact damage you can buy.
Rich Watson (02/06/2007)
Good points, James. I have the Canon ZR700, with similar features as the Elura, although I think my camera is slightly larger.
James, can I get a filter to fit over the lens on the ZR700? I did end up with a chip on the lens of my 3-year old Sony camcorder, just by putting it into my pocket with the lens cover open!
If so, where do you recommend I go for filters?
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James, can I get a filter to fit over the lens on the ZR700? I did end up with a chip on the lens of my 3-year old Sony camcorder, just by putting it into my pocket with the lens cover open!
If so, where do you recommend I go for filters?
by James DeRuvo (02/06/2007)
Absolutely. You'll be wanting a 1A Skylight. Any camera shop will have them for about $10-20.
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Sandy (02/11/2007)
James,
I am willing to spend 2500 on a camera. I like HD, 3CCD, directional Mic, film and burn it to a CD. I want to capture family and also do a documentary (just of family history and such). I like to purchase a good one not something I will regret because lack of features once I learn the ropes. Help...kids are getting older and senior family are passing away. I prefer canons, but am open to try Panasonic.
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I am willing to spend 2500 on a camera. I like HD, 3CCD, directional Mic, film and burn it to a CD. I want to capture family and also do a documentary (just of family history and such). I like to purchase a good one not something I will regret because lack of features once I learn the ropes. Help...kids are getting older and senior family are passing away. I prefer canons, but am open to try Panasonic.
by James DeRuvo (02/13/2007)
Well, my beef about HD is that market saturation just isn't there yet. And in buying an HD camera, you have to also upgrade to an HDTV, HD DVD player, HD DVD burner and use expensive HD DVD media. And since there's yet another petty and rediculous format war going on between HD DVD and Blue Ray, which one do you get? And that also has an issue with what others have. All this, and the fact that HD is still the purvue of the early adopter has prices very expensive and it all adds up.
That's why I don't think it's time yet for HD. However, I have mentioned two really good options - the Canon and the Panasonic GS500. And since you're willing to pony up more, you can look at such prosumer options as the Canon XL2.
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That's why I don't think it's time yet for HD. However, I have mentioned two really good options - the Canon and the Panasonic GS500. And since you're willing to pony up more, you can look at such prosumer options as the Canon XL2.
What camcorder should i have for using in weddings etc? (DVseeker — 02/05/2007)
In my town analog camcorders with tape-cassette are still commonly used. I would like to change it and start to use tapeless digital video camcorder. Considering that usually weddings (in low lighted premises etc.) are mostly recorded, pls advise what type of tapeless DV camcorder should i purchase and what editing software to use?
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by James DeRuvo (02/05/2007)
Well that's the thing. Currenly, tapeless camcorders aren't very editor friendly. If you want to shoot video and then edit it to take out wasted scenes, add titles and music, etc., you're taking a hit in video quality by shooting native with a either DVD cameras ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) or hard drive based camcorders ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ), which, while convenient, tend to record in MPEG2 (only JVC gives you an option to record in AVI). This is because the video is encoded to MPEG2, a compressed format. It's great as an end of the line format, but not for shooting source footage. You will have to "re-encode" (also called demuxing) any mpeg2 footage you shoot on a tapeless camcorder into an editable format. And that's a hassle for those of us who wish to edit our videos as a hobby.
Oppositely, miniDV cameras ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) are much more robust. Cameras like the Elura 100 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) are much better in format because once you've captured, edited and then burned to DVD, you aren't recompressing already compressed footage, like using DVD or hard drive based cameras would force you into.
So, for the forseable future, miniDV tape driven camcorders are still the best bet.
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Oppositely, miniDV cameras ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) are much more robust. Cameras like the Elura 100 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) are much better in format because once you've captured, edited and then burned to DVD, you aren't recompressing already compressed footage, like using DVD or hard drive based cameras would force you into.
So, for the forseable future, miniDV tape driven camcorders are still the best bet.
DVseeker (02/06/2007)
Thanks a lot, James. Your answer helped me to understand what i should seek. We are here (in my town) used to see additional microphones and lighting system on analog camcorders, as i know, Elura 100 doesnt have such mounted devices, is there difference in quality of picture and sound between miniDV and analog?
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Piero Foto (02/06/2007)
If you are getting into the video movie business with a small budget, then here is the deal to get you equipped with in $1000 and still get professional results.
I would recommend the Elura 100 not only because it delivers big performance under $400, but it will also leave you with extra money to include accessories and proper lighting for a lower budget set-up. Keep in mind that there really is no turn key camcorder that is going to give you professional results out of the box. So, if you are trying to achieve the best visual rendition and detail of your subjects to be professionally edited, then i am recommending the following equipment that is very simple to use for your professional DV needs under $1000.
1) 1-Canon Elura 100 -$335
2) 1-Sima Shotgun external mic -$40
(make sure to set your sound in the Elura 100 at 16 bit for best quality)
3) 1-Sima SVB-1 2-in-1 Video Bracket (Sima SVB1) - $20
(for professional audio never mount mic directly on camcorder)
This camcorder bracket can be used on the Elura 100 with the LCD screen door open and can be attached to camcorder for left or right handed grip. It also has two cold shoe mounts that can hold an external mic and small video fill-in light.
4) 1-Sima camcorder LED light - $45
(this is a nice rechargeable fill-in light for closer subject shots, interior or exterior scenes)
5) 2- Lowel Tota-Lights 750 Watt Tungsten Flood Lights -$230
(These lights have an amazing coverage and is as simple to use)
These lights are very light weight and compact which can be placed in one spot of the room and rarely moved through out the whole shooting session. Adjustable reflecting doors can illuminate four walls evenly from a corner, just bounce the light source off the ceiling or place them at a height between 10ft.- 12ft. in larger rooms for direct lighting and they will give off a bright but soft even light that will not distract your subject. These lights will produce an excellent picture quality and redeem the best performance from your DV camcorder.
Size closed: 2" x 3" x 11" (5 x 7.6 x 27.9 cm) Weight less cable: 1.3 lbs. (595 g)
with 16' cable: 2.25 lbs ( 1.02 kg)
Max. wattage: 750w at 120v, 800w at 220/240v
Max. amperage: 6.25 at 120v
Beam control: door angle provides vertical beam control
Fits on: studs 5/8" (1.59 cm) or smaller
Materials: primarily aluminum alloy
Cable: 16' (4.88 m) #18/3 wire
Switch: in-line
6) 2-Photoflex LS-2218 Heavy Duty Light Stands - Black - $135
(extension up to 11' - sand bags could be used for more stability at full extension use)
7) Cullmann 54110 Euro Uno Tripod with 3-Way Fluid-effect Head -$70
Supports up to 5.5 lb (2.5 kg) DV camcorder
8) 1-Canon BP-208 battery for Elura 100 (Canon 0802B002 -$50
9) 2-50ft. A/C extension cords - $50
(these extra cords will come in very handy in wedding halls)
Your Pro-Kit to get started TOTAL $955
Here are other websites to help you find some of the equipment not found on this site -www.beachaudio.com -www.bhphotovideo.com
THE ELURA 100 OPERATES VIDEO RECORDINGS IN 3 LEVELS:
1) Easy Mode: This feature gives you a fully automatic point-and-shoot camcorder. This is a great feature for anyone that just wants to turn the camcorder on and hit record for general shooting, or for people that had a few extra drinks at a party, then I call it the "Drunk Mode". When you switch to Easy Mode from custom settings, you can always return to Custom Mode with out having to reset your manual settings, it remembers the last set-up.
2) Scene Selection: The Elura offers 8 auto scene selection modes for capturing scenes from fireworks display, night scenes, bright beach scenes to fast action sports. These settings are preset from Canon. The exposure, focus, shutter speed and color balance are preset differently for each scene, so you don't even have to think or fuss with settings, for e.g.: the sport scene mode would be automatically set to a higher shutter speed to capture fast motions for a crisper picture by eliminating the motion blur. You can also manually add special effects in combination with the scene selections.
3) Custom manual mode: Manual functions are a big bonus for any DV camcorder. This is where you can not only be experimental, but control your video the way you want. With manual functions you fine tune your settings to best suit your personal scene conditions, for e.g.: A) just with sports, video recording Hockey vs Baseball, the two scene conditions are totally different even though there both classified as sports. B) You can also manually adjust for color/white balance more precisely when video recording under tungsten lighting conditions at wedding halls, and etc. The Elura 100 has allot of other great features where both beginners and pros can have fun with creating some cool in camera video effects.
The Elura 100 is a great choice for movie editing on MAC or PC. It uses mini DV tapes a preferred choice by professionals because tapes does do not compress the video data information which in turn produces the best quality when transferring and works like a charm with movie editing software. Plus, when editing with higher quality software packages you can push the limits even further by adjusting your video picture to look the way you want and include all the bells and whistles to give your movie a prostyle look.
Good Luck Shopping!
Piero Foto
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I would recommend the Elura 100 not only because it delivers big performance under $400, but it will also leave you with extra money to include accessories and proper lighting for a lower budget set-up. Keep in mind that there really is no turn key camcorder that is going to give you professional results out of the box. So, if you are trying to achieve the best visual rendition and detail of your subjects to be professionally edited, then i am recommending the following equipment that is very simple to use for your professional DV needs under $1000.
1) 1-Canon Elura 100 -$335
2) 1-Sima Shotgun external mic -$40
(make sure to set your sound in the Elura 100 at 16 bit for best quality)
3) 1-Sima SVB-1 2-in-1 Video Bracket (Sima SVB1) - $20
(for professional audio never mount mic directly on camcorder)
This camcorder bracket can be used on the Elura 100 with the LCD screen door open and can be attached to camcorder for left or right handed grip. It also has two cold shoe mounts that can hold an external mic and small video fill-in light.
4) 1-Sima camcorder LED light - $45
(this is a nice rechargeable fill-in light for closer subject shots, interior or exterior scenes)
5) 2- Lowel Tota-Lights 750 Watt Tungsten Flood Lights -$230
(These lights have an amazing coverage and is as simple to use)
These lights are very light weight and compact which can be placed in one spot of the room and rarely moved through out the whole shooting session. Adjustable reflecting doors can illuminate four walls evenly from a corner, just bounce the light source off the ceiling or place them at a height between 10ft.- 12ft. in larger rooms for direct lighting and they will give off a bright but soft even light that will not distract your subject. These lights will produce an excellent picture quality and redeem the best performance from your DV camcorder.
Size closed: 2" x 3" x 11" (5 x 7.6 x 27.9 cm) Weight less cable: 1.3 lbs. (595 g)
with 16' cable: 2.25 lbs ( 1.02 kg)
Max. wattage: 750w at 120v, 800w at 220/240v
Max. amperage: 6.25 at 120v
Beam control: door angle provides vertical beam control
Fits on: studs 5/8" (1.59 cm) or smaller
Materials: primarily aluminum alloy
Cable: 16' (4.88 m) #18/3 wire
Switch: in-line
6) 2-Photoflex LS-2218 Heavy Duty Light Stands - Black - $135
(extension up to 11' - sand bags could be used for more stability at full extension use)
7) Cullmann 54110 Euro Uno Tripod with 3-Way Fluid-effect Head -$70
Supports up to 5.5 lb (2.5 kg) DV camcorder
8) 1-Canon BP-208 battery for Elura 100 (Canon 0802B002 -$50
9) 2-50ft. A/C extension cords - $50
(these extra cords will come in very handy in wedding halls)
Your Pro-Kit to get started TOTAL $955
Here are other websites to help you find some of the equipment not found on this site -www.beachaudio.com -www.bhphotovideo.com
THE ELURA 100 OPERATES VIDEO RECORDINGS IN 3 LEVELS:
1) Easy Mode: This feature gives you a fully automatic point-and-shoot camcorder. This is a great feature for anyone that just wants to turn the camcorder on and hit record for general shooting, or for people that had a few extra drinks at a party, then I call it the "Drunk Mode". When you switch to Easy Mode from custom settings, you can always return to Custom Mode with out having to reset your manual settings, it remembers the last set-up.
2) Scene Selection: The Elura offers 8 auto scene selection modes for capturing scenes from fireworks display, night scenes, bright beach scenes to fast action sports. These settings are preset from Canon. The exposure, focus, shutter speed and color balance are preset differently for each scene, so you don't even have to think or fuss with settings, for e.g.: the sport scene mode would be automatically set to a higher shutter speed to capture fast motions for a crisper picture by eliminating the motion blur. You can also manually add special effects in combination with the scene selections.
3) Custom manual mode: Manual functions are a big bonus for any DV camcorder. This is where you can not only be experimental, but control your video the way you want. With manual functions you fine tune your settings to best suit your personal scene conditions, for e.g.: A) just with sports, video recording Hockey vs Baseball, the two scene conditions are totally different even though there both classified as sports. B) You can also manually adjust for color/white balance more precisely when video recording under tungsten lighting conditions at wedding halls, and etc. The Elura 100 has allot of other great features where both beginners and pros can have fun with creating some cool in camera video effects.
The Elura 100 is a great choice for movie editing on MAC or PC. It uses mini DV tapes a preferred choice by professionals because tapes does do not compress the video data information which in turn produces the best quality when transferring and works like a charm with movie editing software. Plus, when editing with higher quality software packages you can push the limits even further by adjusting your video picture to look the way you want and include all the bells and whistles to give your movie a prostyle look.
Good Luck Shopping!
Piero Foto
by James DeRuvo (02/06/2007)
You also might want to consider a 3CCD chip camera like the Panasonic GS500 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). It's about $995, I grant you, but you'll get a much better image, particularly in low light.
And if you are planning on doing this for a living, then perhaps looking at the XL2 or GL2 will give you other options as well.
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And if you are planning on doing this for a living, then perhaps looking at the XL2 or GL2 will give you other options as well.
kue (02/13/2007)
Can I use a camcorder to snap digital pictures as well as record motion picture (video )? What camcorder would be best for this purpose considering battery rating, and price range of $ 240 to $ 300.
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Piero Foto (02/13/2007)
Hi Kue
You should start a new question, then set points so there is an incentive for people to answer.
I will be watching your question to give you a fast response.
Piero Foto
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You should start a new question, then set points so there is an incentive for people to answer.
I will be watching your question to give you a fast response.
Piero Foto
kue (02/13/2007)
With my intention to buy a camcorder which will give the following services:
1. Snap pictures for family preservation/history
2. Take motion pictures such as video for over two hours
3. Have good power economy and easy charging system.
4. have value for money at a price range of $240 - $300
5. Be able to produce on DVD through my laptop.
which will you recommend for the above services and why?
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1. Snap pictures for family preservation/history
2. Take motion pictures such as video for over two hours
3. Have good power economy and easy charging system.
4. have value for money at a price range of $240 - $300
5. Be able to produce on DVD through my laptop.
which will you recommend for the above services and why?
Piero Foto (02/13/2007)
Hi again, Kue.
You are in luck, I have the right camcorder for you at a great price.
Go to the top of the page and ask your question again in the question box.
Your question in the question box will be "What camcorder offers these features?"
After you click ask, you can continue your question and info on the next page.
Then I will send you the info I have prepared you and where to get the camcorder
Thanks!
Piero Foto
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You are in luck, I have the right camcorder for you at a great price.
Go to the top of the page and ask your question again in the question box.
Your question in the question box will be "What camcorder offers these features?"
After you click ask, you can continue your question and info on the next page.
Then I will send you the info I have prepared you and where to get the camcorder
Thanks!
Piero Foto
Finding the right camcorder for our daily personal videos (cburch21 — 02/10/2007)
We are upgrading from a Palmcorder VHS to a Mini DVD or Mini DV Camcorder. We want to find out which camcorder would best fit our needs
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by James DeRuvo (02/13/2007)
Well, let's make it a little easier for you! If you want to shoot video and then edit it to take out wasted scenes, add titles and music, etc., you're taking a hit in video quality by shooting native with a DVD camera ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). This is because the video on DVDs is encoded to MPEG2, a compressed format. It's great as an end of the line format, but not for shooting source footage. Likewise, hard drive based camcorders ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ), while convenient, tend to record in MPEG2 (only JVC gives you an option to record in AVI). This gives you the same problem. Additionally, you will also have to "re-encode" (also called demuxing) the footage into an editable format. It's a hassle for those of us who wish to edit our videos as a hobby.
Oppositely, miniDV cameras ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) are much more robust. Cameras like the Elura 100 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) are much better in format because once you've captured, edited and then burned to DVD, you aren't recompressing already compressed footage, like using the DVD camera would force you into.
I'm a big fan of Canon ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). Particularly the Canon Elura ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). It has widescreen ability, image stabilization, recording in Dolby, and a nifty little feature called analog to digital pass through, which enables you to take those home movies you have on VHS and capture them onto your PC by daisy chaining your VCR through the camera and into the PC via firewire. Then you can edit and burn to DVD as well. Great feature.
Some will argue that due to the design, that the Elura can record noise from it's mechanisms being so close to the microphone. My research suggests that this may or may not be a design flaw as many just don't get the noise issue on their videos while some complain they do. I'm not convinced it's a design wide issue and may be due to faulty individual units that need to be repaired or replaced. Still, it's a good solid camera and there are great prices on the link above.
Another good option is the Panasonic GS500 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). 3CCD camera with both firewire and USB 2.0 for transfer, image stabilization, and recording on miniDV. Word on the street though, is that the GS500 has been discontinued to make ready for a new model. You can still find it available as vendors sell out their existing stock to make ready. And support will still be available for it.
Both these cameras are good solid options.
There are also new entry-level miniDV camcorders from Canon: The Canon ZR800, 830, and 850 are upgrades to the ZR500, 600, and 700 as the company's budget video cameras. While these new models offer only minor improvements over their predecessors, they're welcome offerings ...
With a price difference of just $80 between models, the three offer similar features. All are relatively low resolution, with 680,000-pixel sensors on the ZR800 and ZR830 and a 1-megapixel sensor on the ZR850. All three use the same 35X zoom lens, and feature *electronic* image stabilization to reduce shake. Of course, any magnification over about 12X is usually going to be shaky without a tripod, regardless of the anti-shake features. Finally, all three camcorders have a 2.7-inch 16:9 widescreen LCD for framing shots.
All three camcorders also feature SecureDigital card slots, and the ZR830 and ZR850 support SDHC cards with capacities of 4 GB and higher.
The ZR800 also offers an external microphone port, but sadly, ZR830 and ZR850 users have to make due with the camera's built-in mic.
The Canon ZR800, ZR830, and ZR850 ship later this month, with suggested price tags of $280, $300, and $353, respectively.
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Oppositely, miniDV cameras ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) are much more robust. Cameras like the Elura 100 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) are much better in format because once you've captured, edited and then burned to DVD, you aren't recompressing already compressed footage, like using the DVD camera would force you into.
I'm a big fan of Canon ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). Particularly the Canon Elura ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). It has widescreen ability, image stabilization, recording in Dolby, and a nifty little feature called analog to digital pass through, which enables you to take those home movies you have on VHS and capture them onto your PC by daisy chaining your VCR through the camera and into the PC via firewire. Then you can edit and burn to DVD as well. Great feature.
Some will argue that due to the design, that the Elura can record noise from it's mechanisms being so close to the microphone. My research suggests that this may or may not be a design flaw as many just don't get the noise issue on their videos while some complain they do. I'm not convinced it's a design wide issue and may be due to faulty individual units that need to be repaired or replaced. Still, it's a good solid camera and there are great prices on the link above.
Another good option is the Panasonic GS500 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). 3CCD camera with both firewire and USB 2.0 for transfer, image stabilization, and recording on miniDV. Word on the street though, is that the GS500 has been discontinued to make ready for a new model. You can still find it available as vendors sell out their existing stock to make ready. And support will still be available for it.
Both these cameras are good solid options.
There are also new entry-level miniDV camcorders from Canon: The Canon ZR800, 830, and 850 are upgrades to the ZR500, 600, and 700 as the company's budget video cameras. While these new models offer only minor improvements over their predecessors, they're welcome offerings ...
With a price difference of just $80 between models, the three offer similar features. All are relatively low resolution, with 680,000-pixel sensors on the ZR800 and ZR830 and a 1-megapixel sensor on the ZR850. All three use the same 35X zoom lens, and feature *electronic* image stabilization to reduce shake. Of course, any magnification over about 12X is usually going to be shaky without a tripod, regardless of the anti-shake features. Finally, all three camcorders have a 2.7-inch 16:9 widescreen LCD for framing shots.
All three camcorders also feature SecureDigital card slots, and the ZR830 and ZR850 support SDHC cards with capacities of 4 GB and higher.
The ZR800 also offers an external microphone port, but sadly, ZR830 and ZR850 users have to make due with the camera's built-in mic.
The Canon ZR800, ZR830, and ZR850 ship later this month, with suggested price tags of $280, $300, and $353, respectively.
Piero Foto (02/23/2007)
Hey, Cheryl,
it sounds like you need more info on the capabilities of the camcorder itself to make sure it suits your needs.
Well here it is, if you want a good reliable quality of a point and shoot camcorder but still have the options for creative fun for when you are in the mood or maybe to have the ability to fine tune your video controls to get even better results if shooting specific situations like sports or wildlife, then the I am highly recommending the Canon Elura 100. It is a very veratile DV camcorder for just about any type shooting style.
THE ELURA 100 OPERATES VIDEO RECORDINGS IN 3 LEVELS, FOR THE BASIC CONSUMER TO THE ADVANCED VIDEOOGRAPHER:
1) Easy Mode: This feature gives you a fully automatic point-and-shoot camcorder. This is a great feature for people that just want to turn the camcorder on and hit record. With this feature the Elura does all the thinking for you and generally produces nice results.
2) Scene Selection: The Elura offers 8 auto scene selection modes for capturing scenes from fireworks display, night scenes, bright beach scenes to fast action sports. These settings are preset from Canon. The exposure, focus, shutter speed and color balance are preset differently for each scene, so you don't even have to think or fuss with settings, for e.g.: the sport scene mode would be automatically set to a higher shutter speed to capture fast motions for a crisper picture by eliminating the motion blur. You can also manually add special effects in combination with the scene selections.
3) Custom manual mode: Manual functions are a big bonus for any DV camcorder. This is where you can not only be experimental, but also control your video the way you want. With manual functions you can fine tune your settings to best suit your personal scene conditions, for e.g.: just with sports, video recording Hockey vs Baseball, the two scene conditions are totally different even though there both classified as sports. So in this situation you would need to adjust the exposure to compensate for the ice rink brightness and then you will have the perfect capture, but at the same time the easymode feature in many shooting conditions is usually intelligent enough to automatically make these adjustments for you.
The Elura 100 is a great choice for movie editing on MAC or PC. It uses mini DV tapes is a preferred choice by professionals because tapes does do not compress the video data information which in turn produces the best quality for video transfers to DVD and works like a charm with movie editing software.
If you plan to edit your movies on a computer so you can cut out unwanted video footage, and or maybe add special effects, music and titles, or just transfer the entire footage onto DVD, then mini DV tapes is the best way to go for quality.
Mini DVD Disc and Hard Drive camcorders are limited and record in a compressed MPEG2 format which are fine if your intentions are just to shoot and leave the video footage in its original media format for viewing playback only. They are not as computer friendly as mini tape with editing software or transferring to DVD on your computer, also the image quality will not be as good when transferred. The mini DVD disc camcorder has the advantage of putting the disc in direct to a DVD player after recording. The hard drive camcorder is nice because it gives you a big storage space to accumulate allot of video footage without ever any need to change your recording media, but if the hard drive melfunctions some how, or the camcorder gets damaged, or gets stolen, then it will be good bye to all your recorded memories if you haven't backed it up.
I hope this info will give you a better perspective of choosing the right camcorder.
Piero Foto
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it sounds like you need more info on the capabilities of the camcorder itself to make sure it suits your needs.
Well here it is, if you want a good reliable quality of a point and shoot camcorder but still have the options for creative fun for when you are in the mood or maybe to have the ability to fine tune your video controls to get even better results if shooting specific situations like sports or wildlife, then the I am highly recommending the Canon Elura 100. It is a very veratile DV camcorder for just about any type shooting style.
THE ELURA 100 OPERATES VIDEO RECORDINGS IN 3 LEVELS, FOR THE BASIC CONSUMER TO THE ADVANCED VIDEOOGRAPHER:
1) Easy Mode: This feature gives you a fully automatic point-and-shoot camcorder. This is a great feature for people that just want to turn the camcorder on and hit record. With this feature the Elura does all the thinking for you and generally produces nice results.
2) Scene Selection: The Elura offers 8 auto scene selection modes for capturing scenes from fireworks display, night scenes, bright beach scenes to fast action sports. These settings are preset from Canon. The exposure, focus, shutter speed and color balance are preset differently for each scene, so you don't even have to think or fuss with settings, for e.g.: the sport scene mode would be automatically set to a higher shutter speed to capture fast motions for a crisper picture by eliminating the motion blur. You can also manually add special effects in combination with the scene selections.
3) Custom manual mode: Manual functions are a big bonus for any DV camcorder. This is where you can not only be experimental, but also control your video the way you want. With manual functions you can fine tune your settings to best suit your personal scene conditions, for e.g.: just with sports, video recording Hockey vs Baseball, the two scene conditions are totally different even though there both classified as sports. So in this situation you would need to adjust the exposure to compensate for the ice rink brightness and then you will have the perfect capture, but at the same time the easymode feature in many shooting conditions is usually intelligent enough to automatically make these adjustments for you.
The Elura 100 is a great choice for movie editing on MAC or PC. It uses mini DV tapes is a preferred choice by professionals because tapes does do not compress the video data information which in turn produces the best quality for video transfers to DVD and works like a charm with movie editing software.
If you plan to edit your movies on a computer so you can cut out unwanted video footage, and or maybe add special effects, music and titles, or just transfer the entire footage onto DVD, then mini DV tapes is the best way to go for quality.
Mini DVD Disc and Hard Drive camcorders are limited and record in a compressed MPEG2 format which are fine if your intentions are just to shoot and leave the video footage in its original media format for viewing playback only. They are not as computer friendly as mini tape with editing software or transferring to DVD on your computer, also the image quality will not be as good when transferred. The mini DVD disc camcorder has the advantage of putting the disc in direct to a DVD player after recording. The hard drive camcorder is nice because it gives you a big storage space to accumulate allot of video footage without ever any need to change your recording media, but if the hard drive melfunctions some how, or the camcorder gets damaged, or gets stolen, then it will be good bye to all your recorded memories if you haven't backed it up.
I hope this info will give you a better perspective of choosing the right camcorder.
Piero Foto
Piero Foto (02/23/2007)
Hi again, Cheryl.
I wanted to mention a few more features about the Elura 100. It has great digital dubbing capabilities so that you can transfer your analog VHS/Video 8 tape collection to DV mini tape or DVD through the Elura, and it also has true wide screen recording. The Elura 100 gives you big performance for the price under $375.
One final thing, if any of the responses you are getting is still not answering your question then you will need to provide more specifics of your video needs.
Thanks!
Piero Foto
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I wanted to mention a few more features about the Elura 100. It has great digital dubbing capabilities so that you can transfer your analog VHS/Video 8 tape collection to DV mini tape or DVD through the Elura, and it also has true wide screen recording. The Elura 100 gives you big performance for the price under $375.
One final thing, if any of the responses you are getting is still not answering your question then you will need to provide more specifics of your video needs.
Thanks!
Piero Foto
by James DeRuvo (02/23/2007)
It's called the Analog to Digital pass through, Piero.
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Piero Foto (02/23/2007)
First, I would thank Cheryl for choosing my answer, I am glad that I could be of help.
Now I can thank James,
for making sure I keep it straight. I thought it might easier for consumers to understand the word transferring.
Anyway James, how are you doing. I need to to ask you something, Do you post reviews and responses full time, What is your professional background.
Later everyone!
Piero Foto
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Now I can thank James,
for making sure I keep it straight. I thought it might easier for consumers to understand the word transferring.
Anyway James, how are you doing. I need to to ask you something, Do you post reviews and responses full time, What is your professional background.
Later everyone!
Piero Foto
Dose anybody who has a cannon elura 100 minicamcorder tell me if I can record in another format beside's mjpeg? If so how do I change the format (maikiki — 02/11/2007)
Im haveing a impossible time trying to transfer my cannon elura 100 mjpeg movies to video editing software like Sony vegas 7 without haveing to convert to a .mov file
Is there a way to transfer dirrectly from my camcorder to video editing software? ie. Change the recording format on the camara? / If not, what is the ideal conversion software for this task?
Maikiki,
Kauai, Hawaii
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Is there a way to transfer dirrectly from my camcorder to video editing software? ie. Change the recording format on the camara? / If not, what is the ideal conversion software for this task?
Maikiki,
Kauai, Hawaii
by James DeRuvo (02/13/2007)
If you're talking about recording movies to your SD card, sadly, it records them in mjpeg. There's no way around that. You can record to your miniDV tape and then simply hook it up to you PC via firewire and capture it into your software. You can use the capture utility of your editor or you can use a third party capture utility. I recommend WinDV. Easy to use and free. Google it.
Other than that, you can use an encoder like TMPEnc to re-encode it to another format.
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Other than that, you can use an encoder like TMPEnc to re-encode it to another format.
So I've read the manual and am lost. Which Format?? (Audrey2580 — 02/11/2007)
Here's what I want to do: Record my son. Delete mistakes or unwanted scenes. Play it on the DVD player.
Do I want to record in the VR Format or the Video Format. I've tried both and VR lets me edit but I cannot play it on the DVD player and Video Format lets me play on the DVD but no editing or deleting scenes. ERRR - please please help!
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Do I want to record in the VR Format or the Video Format. I've tried both and VR lets me edit but I cannot play it on the DVD player and Video Format lets me play on the DVD but no editing or deleting scenes. ERRR - please please help!
by James DeRuvo (02/13/2007)
Sadly, your troubles began when you bought the wrong camcorder for editing. If you want to shoot video and then edit it to take out wasted scenes, add titles and music, etc., you're taking a hit in video quality by shooting native with a DVD camera ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). This is because the video on DVDs is encoded to MPEG2, a compressed format. It's great as an end of the line format, but not for shooting source footage. Likewise, hard drive based camcorders ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ), while convenient, tend to record in MPEG2 (only JVC gives you an option to record in AVI). This gives you the same problem.
In order to edit that footage, you will have to "re-encode" (also called demuxing) the footage into an editable format. It's a hassle for those of us who wish to edit our videos as a hobby.
MiniDV is where you really need to be and if you can return your camera and get a miniDV camera, I would recommend it. MiniDV cameras ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) are much more robust. Cameras like the Elura 100 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) are much better in format because once you've captured, edited and then burned to DVD, you aren't recompressing already compressed footage, like using the DVD camera would force you into.
But if you can't go that route, all is not lost. You will simply have to "rip" your dvd to your hard drive using something like DVD Decrypter, and then re-encode the footage using something like TMPGEnc, to convert it to a more editable format like AVI. Then import that into your editor to edit and then burn to DVD.
But regardless, shooting in VR isn't helpful in the least for the reasons you've obviously stated.
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In order to edit that footage, you will have to "re-encode" (also called demuxing) the footage into an editable format. It's a hassle for those of us who wish to edit our videos as a hobby.
MiniDV is where you really need to be and if you can return your camera and get a miniDV camera, I would recommend it. MiniDV cameras ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) are much more robust. Cameras like the Elura 100 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) are much better in format because once you've captured, edited and then burned to DVD, you aren't recompressing already compressed footage, like using the DVD camera would force you into.
But if you can't go that route, all is not lost. You will simply have to "rip" your dvd to your hard drive using something like DVD Decrypter, and then re-encode the footage using something like TMPGEnc, to convert it to a more editable format like AVI. Then import that into your editor to edit and then burn to DVD.
But regardless, shooting in VR isn't helpful in the least for the reasons you've obviously stated.
What is the Best Camcorder and software for recording lacrosse games? We want to make dvds for kids and coaches. (ggkell — 02/12/2007)
This is for High School Lacrosse Team.
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by James DeRuvo (02/13/2007)
Well, let's make it a little easier for you! If you want to shoot video and then edit it to take out wasted scenes, add titles and music, etc., you're taking a hit in video quality by shooting native with a DVD camera ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). This is because the video on DVDs is encoded to MPEG2, a compressed format. It's great as an end of the line format, but not for shooting source footage. Likewise, hard drive based camcorders ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ), while convenient, tend to record in MPEG2 (only JVC gives you an option to record in AVI). This gives you the same problem. Additionally, you will also have to "re-encode" (also called demuxing) the footage into an editable format. It's a hassle for those of us who wish to edit our videos as a hobby.
Oppositely, miniDV cameras ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) are much more robust. Cameras like the Elura 100 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) are much better in format because once you've captured, edited and then burned to DVD, you aren't recompressing already compressed footage, like using the DVD camera would force you into.
Now, let's talk about what PC you're using. Are you a MAC user? If so, it's a good idea to steer clear of SONY ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ), IMHO, as they tend to be incompatible with MAC due to proprietary issues. They do, however, work just fine with PCs, go figure.
I'm a big fan of Canon ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). Particularly the Canon Elura ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). It has widescreen ability, image stabilization, recording in Dolby, and a nifty little feature called analog to digital pass through, which enables you to take those home movies you have on VHS and capture them onto your PC by daisy chaining your VCR through the camera and into the PC via firewire. Then you can edit and burn to DVD as well. Great feature.
Some will argue that due to the design, that the Elura can record noise from it's mechanisms being so close to the microphone. My research suggests that this may or may not be a design flaw as many just don't get the noise issue on their videos while some complain they do. I'm not convinced it's a design wide issue and may be due to faulty individual units that need to be repaired or replaced. Still, it's a good solid camera and there are great prices on the link above.
Another good option is the Panasonic GS500 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). 3CCD camera with both firewire and USB 2.0 for transfer, image stabilization, and recording on miniDV. Word on the street though, is that the GS500 may be discontinued to make ready for a new model. You can still find it available as vendors sell out their existing stock to make ready. And support will still be available for it.
Regardless of what camera you choose, you'll need to capture/import your video into your PC. Cameras with FireWire are the fastest and offer better capture results. However, USB 2.0 is also an option if you have that capability on your camera.
So, why haven't I talked about HD? I just don't think it's ready for the mainstream consumer because of market saturation of HD. As such, it's purely the domain of professionals and early adopters who don't mind investing a good deal of cash to be the first ones to use the latest. That's changing mind you. As we head towards 2007 (the year that Uncle Sam has mandated for moving television broadcast into the HD spectrum), prices have dropped dramatically this year on HD televisions (from $8K to just over $1K), but let's not forget that you'd also need an HD capable editing software, HD DVD burner, HD dvd player, etc. And you need to unlearn and relearn how to shoot HD. And how many friends and family are actually investing in HD at the moment? Sharing HD DVDs with them will be a problem.
And since there's yet another petty and rediculous format war going on between HD DVD and Blue Ray, which one do you get? And that also has an issue with what others have. All this, and the fact that HD is still the purvue of the early adopter has prices very expensive and it all adds up.
So, for at least the next 6 months to a year, HD is still not a practical options. But it won't be for long.
Now, onto software:
Depending on what computer you use, you have a wide range of options from the simple and free, to the complex and costly.
Just starting out and getting your feet wet, you may have all you need to get started. For Windows, there's Windows Movie Maker. Comes with XP and is probably on your computer as we speak. For MAC, there's iMovie, a fabulous editing program to get your feet wet, and may also be all you ever really need. It's that powerful.
Now, neither of this will allow you to do much in the way of special effects, but there's a limited amount you can do, your mileage may vary. The next level would be Adobe Premiere Elements on the Windows side. About $100. Great for editing basic footage and does offer more functionality in the way of 99 audio and video tracks, some more effects, directly burning to DVD, etc.
You'll also want to make copies of your final DVD. For limited quantities, you'll want to pick up NERO (for the PC) and Toast (for the MAC). Nero offers some limited capture, editing and DVD authoring capability, but it's true strength lies in it's copy utility.
Upper level software includes Adobe Premiere Pro on the PC side and Final Cut Pro on the MAC side. Much more functionality, ability to green screen, add dozens, if not hundreds of effects filters, and works great with Adobe After Effects which is the premiere video effects software. The learning curve is steep, but if you buy Adobe's fine book series CLASSROOM IN A BOOK, it will take you through it step by step rather quickly.
Finally, if you're on Windows, a free application called WinDV ( windv.mourek.cz/ ) is a must for your video editing quiver. It's free, it captures via firewire, no frame dropping, automatically captures separate clips into separate files, and is VERY easy to use.
Hope this helps.
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Oppositely, miniDV cameras ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) are much more robust. Cameras like the Elura 100 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) are much better in format because once you've captured, edited and then burned to DVD, you aren't recompressing already compressed footage, like using the DVD camera would force you into.
Now, let's talk about what PC you're using. Are you a MAC user? If so, it's a good idea to steer clear of SONY ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ), IMHO, as they tend to be incompatible with MAC due to proprietary issues. They do, however, work just fine with PCs, go figure.
I'm a big fan of Canon ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). Particularly the Canon Elura ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). It has widescreen ability, image stabilization, recording in Dolby, and a nifty little feature called analog to digital pass through, which enables you to take those home movies you have on VHS and capture them onto your PC by daisy chaining your VCR through the camera and into the PC via firewire. Then you can edit and burn to DVD as well. Great feature.
Some will argue that due to the design, that the Elura can record noise from it's mechanisms being so close to the microphone. My research suggests that this may or may not be a design flaw as many just don't get the noise issue on their videos while some complain they do. I'm not convinced it's a design wide issue and may be due to faulty individual units that need to be repaired or replaced. Still, it's a good solid camera and there are great prices on the link above.
Another good option is the Panasonic GS500 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). 3CCD camera with both firewire and USB 2.0 for transfer, image stabilization, and recording on miniDV. Word on the street though, is that the GS500 may be discontinued to make ready for a new model. You can still find it available as vendors sell out their existing stock to make ready. And support will still be available for it.
Regardless of what camera you choose, you'll need to capture/import your video into your PC. Cameras with FireWire are the fastest and offer better capture results. However, USB 2.0 is also an option if you have that capability on your camera.
So, why haven't I talked about HD? I just don't think it's ready for the mainstream consumer because of market saturation of HD. As such, it's purely the domain of professionals and early adopters who don't mind investing a good deal of cash to be the first ones to use the latest. That's changing mind you. As we head towards 2007 (the year that Uncle Sam has mandated for moving television broadcast into the HD spectrum), prices have dropped dramatically this year on HD televisions (from $8K to just over $1K), but let's not forget that you'd also need an HD capable editing software, HD DVD burner, HD dvd player, etc. And you need to unlearn and relearn how to shoot HD. And how many friends and family are actually investing in HD at the moment? Sharing HD DVDs with them will be a problem.
And since there's yet another petty and rediculous format war going on between HD DVD and Blue Ray, which one do you get? And that also has an issue with what others have. All this, and the fact that HD is still the purvue of the early adopter has prices very expensive and it all adds up.
So, for at least the next 6 months to a year, HD is still not a practical options. But it won't be for long.
Now, onto software:
Depending on what computer you use, you have a wide range of options from the simple and free, to the complex and costly.
Just starting out and getting your feet wet, you may have all you need to get started. For Windows, there's Windows Movie Maker. Comes with XP and is probably on your computer as we speak. For MAC, there's iMovie, a fabulous editing program to get your feet wet, and may also be all you ever really need. It's that powerful.
Now, neither of this will allow you to do much in the way of special effects, but there's a limited amount you can do, your mileage may vary. The next level would be Adobe Premiere Elements on the Windows side. About $100. Great for editing basic footage and does offer more functionality in the way of 99 audio and video tracks, some more effects, directly burning to DVD, etc.
You'll also want to make copies of your final DVD. For limited quantities, you'll want to pick up NERO (for the PC) and Toast (for the MAC). Nero offers some limited capture, editing and DVD authoring capability, but it's true strength lies in it's copy utility.
Upper level software includes Adobe Premiere Pro on the PC side and Final Cut Pro on the MAC side. Much more functionality, ability to green screen, add dozens, if not hundreds of effects filters, and works great with Adobe After Effects which is the premiere video effects software. The learning curve is steep, but if you buy Adobe's fine book series CLASSROOM IN A BOOK, it will take you through it step by step rather quickly.
Finally, if you're on Windows, a free application called WinDV ( windv.mourek.cz/ ) is a must for your video editing quiver. It's free, it captures via firewire, no frame dropping, automatically captures separate clips into separate files, and is VERY easy to use.
Hope this helps.
Piero Foto (02/28/2007)
Hi Gigi.
Here is an inexpensive solution of recording Lacrosse(sports) with two to three camera angles at the same during the game. The multiple angles of coverage will make editing continuity a breeze and look more professional. Also you can highlight different players at the same time or video record the games with each camcorder serving different purposes. You can get 3-Canon Elura 100 camcorders under $975.
If you want a good reliable quality and the simplicity of a point and shoot camcorder for easy training, but still have the options for creative shooting or the advanced ability to adjust your controls to get even better results when shooting specific situations like your Lacrosse games, and etc., then I am highly recommending the Canon Elura 100. The Elura 100 is the great all around mainstream camcorder on the market that delivers big performance for under $325. The Elura has an impressive picture quality, 20x zoom, true wide screen recording and is very veratile for just about any type shooting style. Its also action packed with features and is truly a camcorder that you will not grow out of for a while. The Elura can be used by beginners to the advanced videographers.
The Elura 100 is a great choice for movie editing on MAC or PC. It uses mini DV tapes is a preferred choice by professionals because tapes does do not compress the video data information which in turn produces the best quality for video transfers to DVD and works like a charm with movie editing software. The Elura is one of a rare few that comes with an external mic option, this is a great feature for improving sound quality like at sporting events, concerts, airshows, and etc. For video recording interviews or action sounds, the Elura 100 can also use wireless mic systems that will record audio sounds and voices from a distance of two football fields away. Plus, the audio dubbing feature can also allow you to add voice over to your video footage from an external mic or audio device without a computer.
THE ELURA 100 OPERATES AT 3 LEVELS, FOR THE BASIC CONSUMER TO THE ADVANCED VIDEOOGRAPHER:
1) Easy Mode: This feature gives you a fully automatic point-and-shoot camcorder. This is a great feature for people that just want to turn the camcorder on and hit record. With this feature the Elura does all the thinking for you and generally produces nice results.
2) Scene Selection: The Elura offers 8 auto scene selection modes for capturing scenes from fireworks display, night scenes, bright beach scenes to fast action sports. These settings are preset from Canon. The exposure, focus, shutter speed and color balance are preset differently for each scene, so you don't even have to think or fuss with settings, for e.g.: the sport scene mode would be automatically set to a higher shutter speed to capture fast motions for a crisper picture by eliminating the motion blur. You can also manually add special effects in combination with the scene selections.
3) Custom manual mode: Manual functions are a big bonus for any DV camcorder. This is where you can not only be experimental, but also control your video the way you want. With manual functions you can fine tune your settings to best suit your personal scene conditions, for e.g.: just with sports, video recording Hockey vs Lacrosse, the two scene conditions are totally different even though there both classified as sports. So in this situation you would need to adjust the exposure to compensate for the ice rink brightness and then you will have the perfect capture. The easymode feature in many shooting conditions is usually intelligent enough to automatically make these adjustments for you, but the manual mode is more stable for when you need it.
If you plan to edit your movies on a computer so you can cut out unwanted video footage, and or maybe add special effects, music and titles, or just transfer the entire footage onto DVD, then mini DV tapes is the best way to go for quality.
Mini DVD Disc and Hard Drive camcorders are limited and record in a compressed MPEG2 format which are fine if your intentions are just to shoot and leave the video footage in its original media format for viewing playback only. They are not as computer friendly as mini tape with editing software or transferring to DVD on your computer, also the image quality will not be as good when transferred. The mini DVD disc camcorder has the advantage of putting the disc in direct to a DVD player after recording. The hard drive camcorder is nice because it gives you a big storage space to accumulate allot of video footage without ever any need to change your recording media, but if the hard drive melfunctions some how, or the camcorder gets damaged, or gets stolen, then it will be good bye to all your recorded memories if you haven't backed it up.
I Hope this info helps you find for the right camcorder.
Happy Shopping!
Piero Foto
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Here is an inexpensive solution of recording Lacrosse(sports) with two to three camera angles at the same during the game. The multiple angles of coverage will make editing continuity a breeze and look more professional. Also you can highlight different players at the same time or video record the games with each camcorder serving different purposes. You can get 3-Canon Elura 100 camcorders under $975.
If you want a good reliable quality and the simplicity of a point and shoot camcorder for easy training, but still have the options for creative shooting or the advanced ability to adjust your controls to get even better results when shooting specific situations like your Lacrosse games, and etc., then I am highly recommending the Canon Elura 100. The Elura 100 is the great all around mainstream camcorder on the market that delivers big performance for under $325. The Elura has an impressive picture quality, 20x zoom, true wide screen recording and is very veratile for just about any type shooting style. Its also action packed with features and is truly a camcorder that you will not grow out of for a while. The Elura can be used by beginners to the advanced videographers.
The Elura 100 is a great choice for movie editing on MAC or PC. It uses mini DV tapes is a preferred choice by professionals because tapes does do not compress the video data information which in turn produces the best quality for video transfers to DVD and works like a charm with movie editing software. The Elura is one of a rare few that comes with an external mic option, this is a great feature for improving sound quality like at sporting events, concerts, airshows, and etc. For video recording interviews or action sounds, the Elura 100 can also use wireless mic systems that will record audio sounds and voices from a distance of two football fields away. Plus, the audio dubbing feature can also allow you to add voice over to your video footage from an external mic or audio device without a computer.
THE ELURA 100 OPERATES AT 3 LEVELS, FOR THE BASIC CONSUMER TO THE ADVANCED VIDEOOGRAPHER:
1) Easy Mode: This feature gives you a fully automatic point-and-shoot camcorder. This is a great feature for people that just want to turn the camcorder on and hit record. With this feature the Elura does all the thinking for you and generally produces nice results.
2) Scene Selection: The Elura offers 8 auto scene selection modes for capturing scenes from fireworks display, night scenes, bright beach scenes to fast action sports. These settings are preset from Canon. The exposure, focus, shutter speed and color balance are preset differently for each scene, so you don't even have to think or fuss with settings, for e.g.: the sport scene mode would be automatically set to a higher shutter speed to capture fast motions for a crisper picture by eliminating the motion blur. You can also manually add special effects in combination with the scene selections.
3) Custom manual mode: Manual functions are a big bonus for any DV camcorder. This is where you can not only be experimental, but also control your video the way you want. With manual functions you can fine tune your settings to best suit your personal scene conditions, for e.g.: just with sports, video recording Hockey vs Lacrosse, the two scene conditions are totally different even though there both classified as sports. So in this situation you would need to adjust the exposure to compensate for the ice rink brightness and then you will have the perfect capture. The easymode feature in many shooting conditions is usually intelligent enough to automatically make these adjustments for you, but the manual mode is more stable for when you need it.
If you plan to edit your movies on a computer so you can cut out unwanted video footage, and or maybe add special effects, music and titles, or just transfer the entire footage onto DVD, then mini DV tapes is the best way to go for quality.
Mini DVD Disc and Hard Drive camcorders are limited and record in a compressed MPEG2 format which are fine if your intentions are just to shoot and leave the video footage in its original media format for viewing playback only. They are not as computer friendly as mini tape with editing software or transferring to DVD on your computer, also the image quality will not be as good when transferred. The mini DVD disc camcorder has the advantage of putting the disc in direct to a DVD player after recording. The hard drive camcorder is nice because it gives you a big storage space to accumulate allot of video footage without ever any need to change your recording media, but if the hard drive melfunctions some how, or the camcorder gets damaged, or gets stolen, then it will be good bye to all your recorded memories if you haven't backed it up.
I Hope this info helps you find for the right camcorder.
Happy Shopping!
Piero Foto
Piero Foto (03/01/2007)
Hi Gigi.
Do you still need more advice, what computers will you be using for editing. With more specifics, we can answer you better.
If you have everything under control, that's great. Then simply choose an answer and close off the question, so others do not reply to an already answered question, thanks!
Good Luck!
Piero Foto
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Do you still need more advice, what computers will you be using for editing. With more specifics, we can answer you better.
If you have everything under control, that's great. Then simply choose an answer and close off the question, so others do not reply to an already answered question, thanks!
Good Luck!
Piero Foto
Piero Foto (03/18/2007)
Hi Gigi.
Have you purchased your camcorder yet. I am just following up with you to see if you need any further advice to your original question. Just to let you know that digital advisors on this website use up their own personal time and reseach efforts of responding to questions to help consumers like yourself at no charge, as long as the question does not remain open after its been responded with a reasonable answer. So, we would like to get feed back from consumers such as yourself when questions remain open to conclude and bring the question to a close. We will be more than happy to answer any new questions you wish to post in the future.
Thank you in Advance.
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Have you purchased your camcorder yet. I am just following up with you to see if you need any further advice to your original question. Just to let you know that digital advisors on this website use up their own personal time and reseach efforts of responding to questions to help consumers like yourself at no charge, as long as the question does not remain open after its been responded with a reasonable answer. So, we would like to get feed back from consumers such as yourself when questions remain open to conclude and bring the question to a close. We will be more than happy to answer any new questions you wish to post in the future.
Thank you in Advance.
Piero Foto (04/08/2007)
Gigi.
Answer to your question is based at a high end consumer level.
Your Question:
What is the Best Camcorder and software for recording lacrosse games? We want to make dvds for kids and coaches. This is for High School Lacrosse Team
Your Answer:
Camcorder:
The Canon HV20 HD camcorder
Editing Software:
Final Cut Pro HD editing suite software
Operating System Recommend:
Mac OSX 10.4.9
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Answer to your question is based at a high end consumer level.
Your Question:
What is the Best Camcorder and software for recording lacrosse games? We want to make dvds for kids and coaches. This is for High School Lacrosse Team
Your Answer:
Camcorder:
The Canon HV20 HD camcorder
Editing Software:
Final Cut Pro HD editing suite software
Operating System Recommend:
Mac OSX 10.4.9
by James DeRuvo (04/09/2007)
I'd also like to recommend either a Steadicam Jr. or even better is the SteadyOrb. Having the ability to record a more seamless and balanced image free of camera shake will make your sports videos even more enjoyable and increase your range beyond the optical range of your camera lens.
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Piero Foto (04/09/2007)
Hey, James.
Are we talking about the real "ma coy" Steady Cam apparatus in the motion picture industry?
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Are we talking about the real "ma coy" Steady Cam apparatus in the motion picture industry?
ggkell (04/10/2007)
Thanks for all the replies. I had not checked back. This is the first time using this venue for feedback. I have adobe and I run in the Windows world. I have not converted to Vista yet. I was waiting for the Canon HV20 to be released. I will be purchasing a camera this week.
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by James DeRuvo (04/10/2007)
They make a consumer version as do several others. Hell, you can even make one if you look online ...
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Piero Foto (04/10/2007)
Hey, Gigi.
We are glad you are still alive!
Congratulations in advance for choosing the HV20, its a very good choice. It was a bit difficult to pinpoint the answer with out your feedback.
{April 8 2007 reply)
Besides the HV20, I also suggested the Mac editing software as best choice and hoping you were on a Mac system. The HV20 camcorder itself will work well on both PC and Mac.
Happy Shooting!
Hey, James.
I have seen some home made steadycam versions with pipes and weights, some aren't bad. I actually have a design for one my self that works on a spring and friction system.
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We are glad you are still alive!
Congratulations in advance for choosing the HV20, its a very good choice. It was a bit difficult to pinpoint the answer with out your feedback.
{April 8 2007 reply)
Besides the HV20, I also suggested the Mac editing software as best choice and hoping you were on a Mac system. The HV20 camcorder itself will work well on both PC and Mac.
Happy Shooting!
Hey, James.
I have seen some home made steadycam versions with pipes and weights, some aren't bad. I actually have a design for one my self that works on a spring and friction system.
by James DeRuvo (04/11/2007)
There's a great website that shows all sorts of home built steady cams. Some are almost better than the real mccoy!
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Piero Foto (04/11/2007)
Thanks, James.
I will look into it if you let me know the website.
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I will look into it if you let me know the website.
Piero Foto (05/18/2007)
Gigi.
Is there anything else you need to know for concluding your question.
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Is there anything else you need to know for concluding your question.
by James DeRuvo (05/18/2007)
Well, it's called HOMEBUILT STABILIZERS ( homebuiltstabilizers.com/ ) and there's a lot of great information there. But you can also do google searches for both the $41 and $14 Steadycam designs just to get started. And there's even a good example of what you can make for about $40 in PVC pipe over at Make Magazine.
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Piero Foto (05/18/2007)
Thanks James.
I will check out the website.
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I will check out the website.
What would be a good camcorder for videoing at dusk and dawn? (albertabowhunter — 02/19/2007)
I need a camcorder for videoing my hunting trips. A lot of the footage will be at dusk and dawn when light is minimal since that's when the deer are moving the most. Using a light on the camcorder is not something I'm interested in since that'll scare away the animals.
Any help would be great!!!!
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Any help would be great!!!!
by James DeRuvo (02/21/2007)
Sadly, most low light (lux) ratings these days aren't as good as they were back in the days of 8mm video where they approached zero (I even remember one model at -1).
However, Canon ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ), has several that have lux ratings of 2, which is pretty darn good. For example, the Elura ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). I'd also recommend the Panasonic GS500 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ), although the lux level is around 5, it does have the 3CCD capabiltiy which will give you much clearer images as it has much more pixels to put on the image.
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However, Canon ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ), has several that have lux ratings of 2, which is pretty darn good. For example, the Elura ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). I'd also recommend the Panasonic GS500 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ), although the lux level is around 5, it does have the 3CCD capabiltiy which will give you much clearer images as it has much more pixels to put on the image.
Piero Foto (02/22/2007)
Hello Chad.
SHOOTING NEEDS AND STYLE:
Its going to be real tough for any camcorder to deal with that type of shooting situation, but with one of the good things about digital camcorders is, you can improve the picture quality and boost low light brightness when using advanced video editing software. Video editing will help you make up the lacking difference of camcorders. A good all around inexpensive camcorder I would suggest is the Elura 100 that has manual adjustments and preset scene modes that will help give you decent results, but for extremely dark situations, then camcorders with an infrared lowlight feature can give better results, but don't expect to see any good color with infrared. Some Sony models are better with extreme low light video, but I would not recommend Sony for the best for all around camcorders.
Mini DV tapes are still presently holding a strong interest in the market place mostly by advanced consumer videographers because of the versatility and best quality for digital video editing and DVD transferring. If you plan to edit your movies on a computer so you can cut out unwanted video footage, adjust picture quality, or maybe add special effects, music and titles, or maybe just to transfer the entire footage onto DVD, then mini DV tapes is the best way to go for quality.
Mini DVD Disc and Hard Drive camcorders are limited and record in a compressed MPEG2 format which are fine if your intentions are just to shoot and leave the video footage in its original media format for viewing playback only. The mini DVD disc camcorder has the advantage of putting the disc in direct to a DVD player after recording. The hard drive camcorder is nice because it gives you a big storage space to accumulate allot of video footage without ever any need to change your recording media, but if the hard drive melfunctions some how, or the camcorder gets damaged, or gets stolen, then it will be good bye to all your recorded memories if you haven't backed it up.
If you mean hunting videos as like wildlife recording, then I would also recommend adding a conversion telephoto zoom to your camcorder. Conversion lenses attaches to your excising camcorder lens and increases the zoom ratio, for eg: a 2x telephoto conversion lens will double the 20x optical lens on the Elura into a 40x optical lens, viewing your distant subjects much closer. You can get conversion lenses up to 5x, five times closer. The camcorders image stabilizing feature help hold the picture more stable, but this feature will not cut it when you are extremely zoomed in using telephoto conversion lenses. The professional solution to correct this problem is to buy a monopod, its very crucial that you use your camcorder on a monopod for hand held wild life shooting, then its easier to achieve a professional video look with out the annoying feeling that you are at sea swaying with the waves. Keep in mind that OPTICAL zoom is a real zoom ratio and digital zoom is a gimmick. Digital zoom produces terrible picture quality and its a feature that should have absolutely never been made available.
The Elura 100 is one of the rare few consumer camcorders that has an external audio option and also records audio in high quality 16bit mode. This is a very important feature for improved sound quality and for adding a shotgun mic to record distant wildlife sounds. Keep in mind that an external mic should never be mounted directly on the camcorder, so do not be concerned that the Elura has no shoe mount on the camera, it was intended that way for that specific reason. To mount your external mic or an external light when needed, just get a camcorder accessory cold shoe mount bracket, they cost with in $20. I got mine at Beach audio, this is a good bracket, it has two cold shoe mounts, a hand grip and its also designed to not interfere with your LCD scene when opened. The hand grip will give you some extra handling control.
The Elura 100 is very quick of switching from play mode to record mode or vise verse, about 2 seconds, very important feature when split seconds are critical for capturing your video wild life subjects.
Bottom line, there is no perfect system, but I found the Elura 100 to be a great all around mainstream choice for the money under $375. If money is not an issue for you, then spend what it takes to get what you need.
I hope this information will give you some of the answers to make the right purchase.
Happy Shopping!
Piero Foto
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SHOOTING NEEDS AND STYLE:
Its going to be real tough for any camcorder to deal with that type of shooting situation, but with one of the good things about digital camcorders is, you can improve the picture quality and boost low light brightness when using advanced video editing software. Video editing will help you make up the lacking difference of camcorders. A good all around inexpensive camcorder I would suggest is the Elura 100 that has manual adjustments and preset scene modes that will help give you decent results, but for extremely dark situations, then camcorders with an infrared lowlight feature can give better results, but don't expect to see any good color with infrared. Some Sony models are better with extreme low light video, but I would not recommend Sony for the best for all around camcorders.
Mini DV tapes are still presently holding a strong interest in the market place mostly by advanced consumer videographers because of the versatility and best quality for digital video editing and DVD transferring. If you plan to edit your movies on a computer so you can cut out unwanted video footage, adjust picture quality, or maybe add special effects, music and titles, or maybe just to transfer the entire footage onto DVD, then mini DV tapes is the best way to go for quality.
Mini DVD Disc and Hard Drive camcorders are limited and record in a compressed MPEG2 format which are fine if your intentions are just to shoot and leave the video footage in its original media format for viewing playback only. The mini DVD disc camcorder has the advantage of putting the disc in direct to a DVD player after recording. The hard drive camcorder is nice because it gives you a big storage space to accumulate allot of video footage without ever any need to change your recording media, but if the hard drive melfunctions some how, or the camcorder gets damaged, or gets stolen, then it will be good bye to all your recorded memories if you haven't backed it up.
If you mean hunting videos as like wildlife recording, then I would also recommend adding a conversion telephoto zoom to your camcorder. Conversion lenses attaches to your excising camcorder lens and increases the zoom ratio, for eg: a 2x telephoto conversion lens will double the 20x optical lens on the Elura into a 40x optical lens, viewing your distant subjects much closer. You can get conversion lenses up to 5x, five times closer. The camcorders image stabilizing feature help hold the picture more stable, but this feature will not cut it when you are extremely zoomed in using telephoto conversion lenses. The professional solution to correct this problem is to buy a monopod, its very crucial that you use your camcorder on a monopod for hand held wild life shooting, then its easier to achieve a professional video look with out the annoying feeling that you are at sea swaying with the waves. Keep in mind that OPTICAL zoom is a real zoom ratio and digital zoom is a gimmick. Digital zoom produces terrible picture quality and its a feature that should have absolutely never been made available.
The Elura 100 is one of the rare few consumer camcorders that has an external audio option and also records audio in high quality 16bit mode. This is a very important feature for improved sound quality and for adding a shotgun mic to record distant wildlife sounds. Keep in mind that an external mic should never be mounted directly on the camcorder, so do not be concerned that the Elura has no shoe mount on the camera, it was intended that way for that specific reason. To mount your external mic or an external light when needed, just get a camcorder accessory cold shoe mount bracket, they cost with in $20. I got mine at Beach audio, this is a good bracket, it has two cold shoe mounts, a hand grip and its also designed to not interfere with your LCD scene when opened. The hand grip will give you some extra handling control.
The Elura 100 is very quick of switching from play mode to record mode or vise verse, about 2 seconds, very important feature when split seconds are critical for capturing your video wild life subjects.
Bottom line, there is no perfect system, but I found the Elura 100 to be a great all around mainstream choice for the money under $375. If money is not an issue for you, then spend what it takes to get what you need.
I hope this information will give you some of the answers to make the right purchase.
Happy Shopping!
Piero Foto
albertabowhunter (02/26/2007)
Thanks for all the help guys!! However after doing some research on the Canon Elura I've found that it isn't suppose to be good for low light situations. According to the CNET review it says to steer clear of low light situations with this camcorder.
reviews.cnet.com/Canon_Elur...
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reviews.cnet.com/Canon_Elur...
Piero Foto (02/26/2007)
Hi again, Chad.
I am glad to see that you might have found the right camcorder. I have read the review from your link and there is some good points in the review, but at the same time some adviser's at times mis-testing certain features, for eg: the Elura manual slow shutter feature for low light. Keep in mind that digital advisers like James DeRuvo and myself are not representing Canon in any way and our interest is to guide you to the right choice.
If you are considering the JVC DF550 for low light performance, then read this article I have come across before buying.
This camcorder has some good points, but its rated below average for overall performace.
Low Light Performance (4.0)
Compared to nearly every other one-chip camcorder weââ¬â¢ve reviewed this year, the GR-DF550 performs miserably in full auto mode at both 15 and 60 lux.
The low light performance of the GR-DF550 really depends on how low a light level is involved. For a camcorder of its image specifications it is both surprising and largely not bad. We tested the GR-DF550 at both 15 lux and 60 lux light levels. 60 lux is the approximate equivalent of a slightly dim indoor room, which is by no means outside the camcorderââ¬â¢s recommended window of performance. 15 lux, while significantly dimmer than 60 lux, isnââ¬â¢t outside the realm of the camcorderââ¬â¢s performance either, though itââ¬â¢s riding the edge. Both the GR-DF550ââ¬â¢s 15 and 60 lux images shot in Full Auto mode are unusable. They are extremely dark, and while the chartââ¬â¢s form is distinguishable at 60 lux, colors in both images are almost completely nonexistent. This is unfortunate, though not unprecedented. The GR-DX307 showed similar results last year.
As far as performance goes, the automatic adjustments are okay. Automatic adjustments to white balance are good, subtle and smooth, but adjustments to exposure, while quick in themselves, take a moment to kick in before adjusting. Focal adjustments in good light and with the zoom pulled back are good and accurate, but low light situations (like some indoor light and in shadowy areas) give focus a lot of trouble. Needless to say, these automatic controls arenââ¬â¢t as good as they are on many Sony or Canon camcorders, which is a shame as most people are probably buying these camcorders to point-and-shoot.
If you need more advise just ask or close question off and choose best answer. Thanks!
Good luck!
Piero Foto
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I am glad to see that you might have found the right camcorder. I have read the review from your link and there is some good points in the review, but at the same time some adviser's at times mis-testing certain features, for eg: the Elura manual slow shutter feature for low light. Keep in mind that digital advisers like James DeRuvo and myself are not representing Canon in any way and our interest is to guide you to the right choice.
If you are considering the JVC DF550 for low light performance, then read this article I have come across before buying.
This camcorder has some good points, but its rated below average for overall performace.
Low Light Performance (4.0)
Compared to nearly every other one-chip camcorder weââ¬â¢ve reviewed this year, the GR-DF550 performs miserably in full auto mode at both 15 and 60 lux.
The low light performance of the GR-DF550 really depends on how low a light level is involved. For a camcorder of its image specifications it is both surprising and largely not bad. We tested the GR-DF550 at both 15 lux and 60 lux light levels. 60 lux is the approximate equivalent of a slightly dim indoor room, which is by no means outside the camcorderââ¬â¢s recommended window of performance. 15 lux, while significantly dimmer than 60 lux, isnââ¬â¢t outside the realm of the camcorderââ¬â¢s performance either, though itââ¬â¢s riding the edge. Both the GR-DF550ââ¬â¢s 15 and 60 lux images shot in Full Auto mode are unusable. They are extremely dark, and while the chartââ¬â¢s form is distinguishable at 60 lux, colors in both images are almost completely nonexistent. This is unfortunate, though not unprecedented. The GR-DX307 showed similar results last year.
As far as performance goes, the automatic adjustments are okay. Automatic adjustments to white balance are good, subtle and smooth, but adjustments to exposure, while quick in themselves, take a moment to kick in before adjusting. Focal adjustments in good light and with the zoom pulled back are good and accurate, but low light situations (like some indoor light and in shadowy areas) give focus a lot of trouble. Needless to say, these automatic controls arenââ¬â¢t as good as they are on many Sony or Canon camcorders, which is a shame as most people are probably buying these camcorders to point-and-shoot.
If you need more advise just ask or close question off and choose best answer. Thanks!
Good luck!
Piero Foto
by James DeRuvo (02/27/2007)
I think that it's key to strike a balance. Unless this camera is solely going to be used for lowlight situations.
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Piero Foto (03/30/2007)
Well, Chad.
I don't know if you found your night vision camera yet, But if you are looking for a serious piece of video equipment for extreme low lighting conditions, then check out this site. These night vision conversions are used by the military and government intelligence.
You will be able to see just as good as an owl or a bat in a cave.
electrophysics.com/Browse/B...
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I don't know if you found your night vision camera yet, But if you are looking for a serious piece of video equipment for extreme low lighting conditions, then check out this site. These night vision conversions are used by the military and government intelligence.
You will be able to see just as good as an owl or a bat in a cave.
electrophysics.com/Browse/B...
by James DeRuvo (03/30/2007)
I recently came across these thoughts at CNET:
"Luckily, most modern camcorders are fairly good in low light. You'll get better results the more you spend on your camcorder. A 3CCD (charge coupled device) camcorder will capture red, green and blue light independently. This type of camcorder is generally better in low light, but some single-CCD camcorders also do a decent job.
MiniDV tape camcorders are the best option, as the consumer models of DVD or hard disk based camcorders will give you poor low-light footage. Sony has a strong reputation for low-light performance and camcorders from its Handycam range, such as the DCR-HC96, are excellent low-light performers. Alternatively, our video editor recommends the more expensive Canon MVX 3i as a low-light performer.
If you're filming in really low light conditions, you could try using the infrared Night Shot and Super Night Shot modes on the Sony Handycam models. These are highly sensitive night-vision settings, but do result in a bright green appearance to your footage. This can give the impression that you're viewing things from the perspective of a psychopath, so it isn't ideal for family footage.
At the top end of the scale, the prosumer Sony HDR-FX1 is very good in low light, with the added benefit of being high definition, so you'll get a seriously detailed picture. However, this is a very expensive camcorder and since your camcorder will be in the proximity of a child, you'll probably want to opt for something more modest."
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"Luckily, most modern camcorders are fairly good in low light. You'll get better results the more you spend on your camcorder. A 3CCD (charge coupled device) camcorder will capture red, green and blue light independently. This type of camcorder is generally better in low light, but some single-CCD camcorders also do a decent job.
MiniDV tape camcorders are the best option, as the consumer models of DVD or hard disk based camcorders will give you poor low-light footage. Sony has a strong reputation for low-light performance and camcorders from its Handycam range, such as the DCR-HC96, are excellent low-light performers. Alternatively, our video editor recommends the more expensive Canon MVX 3i as a low-light performer.
If you're filming in really low light conditions, you could try using the infrared Night Shot and Super Night Shot modes on the Sony Handycam models. These are highly sensitive night-vision settings, but do result in a bright green appearance to your footage. This can give the impression that you're viewing things from the perspective of a psychopath, so it isn't ideal for family footage.
At the top end of the scale, the prosumer Sony HDR-FX1 is very good in low light, with the added benefit of being high definition, so you'll get a seriously detailed picture. However, this is a very expensive camcorder and since your camcorder will be in the proximity of a child, you'll probably want to opt for something more modest."
How do you mount a microphone on the Elura without a shoe mount? (Wes — 02/22/2007)
I recently purchased the Elura 100 and im trying to figure out how to mount an external microphone and external video light on the camcorder. Can anyone suggest anything?
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Piero Foto (02/23/2007)
Hey! Wes.
Right now you are probably as disappointed as I was when I bought my Elura-100 six months ago and realized there was no accessory shoe mount on the camcorder. Well after you read my response it will confirm you still made the right choice with the Canon Elura 100.
The Elura 100 is one of the rare few consumer camcorders that has an external audio option and also records audio in high quality 16bit mode. This is a very important feature for improved sound quality and for adding a shotgun mic to record distant sounds. Keep in mind that an external mic should never be mounted directly on the camcorder, so do not be concerned that the Elura has no shoe mount on the camera, it was intended that way for that specific reason. To mount your external mic or an external light when needed, just get a camcorder accessory cold shoe mount bracket, they cost with in $20. I got mine at Beach audio, this is a good bracket, it has two cold shoe mounts, a hand grip and its also designed to not interfere with your LCD screen when opened. The hand grip will give you some extra handling control.
These are some of the problems you would encounter if using a camcorder shoe mount.
1) If an external microphone is mounted directly on the camcorder, you are going to record allot of unwanted sounds and nosies like your hands fumbling around the controls and even picking up sounds from the camcorder motors. The mic needs to be mounted at least 6 inches away from the camcorder.
2) If an external video light is mount directly on the camcorder, you are increasing your chances of getting the red eye effect because the light is to close in alignment with the lens and if you are using conversion lenses with the video light mounted on the camcorder, you will also get shadows caused by the protruding lens that blocks some of the source. The video light also needs to mounted at least 6-8 inches away from camcorder, this will result in better contrast as well as reducing blow outs from glare.
So in conclusion to your question, if the Elura had a shoe mount you would probably not be using it anyway. I hope this response has resolved your question.
Piero Foto
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Right now you are probably as disappointed as I was when I bought my Elura-100 six months ago and realized there was no accessory shoe mount on the camcorder. Well after you read my response it will confirm you still made the right choice with the Canon Elura 100.
The Elura 100 is one of the rare few consumer camcorders that has an external audio option and also records audio in high quality 16bit mode. This is a very important feature for improved sound quality and for adding a shotgun mic to record distant sounds. Keep in mind that an external mic should never be mounted directly on the camcorder, so do not be concerned that the Elura has no shoe mount on the camera, it was intended that way for that specific reason. To mount your external mic or an external light when needed, just get a camcorder accessory cold shoe mount bracket, they cost with in $20. I got mine at Beach audio, this is a good bracket, it has two cold shoe mounts, a hand grip and its also designed to not interfere with your LCD screen when opened. The hand grip will give you some extra handling control.
These are some of the problems you would encounter if using a camcorder shoe mount.
1) If an external microphone is mounted directly on the camcorder, you are going to record allot of unwanted sounds and nosies like your hands fumbling around the controls and even picking up sounds from the camcorder motors. The mic needs to be mounted at least 6 inches away from the camcorder.
2) If an external video light is mount directly on the camcorder, you are increasing your chances of getting the red eye effect because the light is to close in alignment with the lens and if you are using conversion lenses with the video light mounted on the camcorder, you will also get shadows caused by the protruding lens that blocks some of the source. The video light also needs to mounted at least 6-8 inches away from camcorder, this will result in better contrast as well as reducing blow outs from glare.
So in conclusion to your question, if the Elura had a shoe mount you would probably not be using it anyway. I hope this response has resolved your question.
Piero Foto
Im hearing the camcorder motor on the audio playback. What should I do? Is this normal? (Wes — 02/26/2007)
I only hear the camcorder motor when I use the built-in microphone but its ok with the external microphone mounted on the camera
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Piero Foto (02/27/2007)
Hello again Wes.
I hope the last audio advice worked out for you.
This camcorder motor sound that you hear on playback is caused by an over sensitive mic. and or a design problem, but the camcorder itself is fine, in fact the camcorder is very quite when in operation including the zoom motor. Some Elura owners hear it, some don't. The ones that do, only hear it on the recorded video when played back, so that would prove its not the camcorder motors itself.
I have found the built in camcorder mic to be the most sensitive when there is physically no available audio present, like: people talking or moving around, street traffic, ocean waves, sounds of wildlife, wind, and etc. This non-present audio would play back on your video as a loud silence and usually picks up sounds from your camcorder or you handling the controls. Once there is actual audio present the built in mic seems to become less sensitive as if there were an auto sound limiter built in, which could be.
I have run a few tests myself and I found that it helps to switch your audio settings to Auto Wind screen mode at 12bit, this will cut back some mic sensitivity. I personally believe that the problem is caused by a design issue with the port holes being to small for the mic chamber and is causing a kind of a re-verb echo effect.
To eliminate this sensitive mic noise problem and improve your audio at the same time, I am recommending the same professional solution as pros do, use an external mic. at 16bit audio and mount it around six inches off the camcorder. You will have a greatly improved professional audio sound with out the loud silent noise of hearing the camcorder or yourself handling the camcorder buttons. You have also proved this solution as you mentioned that you did not have the problem anymore with the external mic. Try mounting the mic off the camcorder on a bracket this time about six inches away and you will hear even a better difference.
Hope this helps you out.
Piero Foto
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I hope the last audio advice worked out for you.
This camcorder motor sound that you hear on playback is caused by an over sensitive mic. and or a design problem, but the camcorder itself is fine, in fact the camcorder is very quite when in operation including the zoom motor. Some Elura owners hear it, some don't. The ones that do, only hear it on the recorded video when played back, so that would prove its not the camcorder motors itself.
I have found the built in camcorder mic to be the most sensitive when there is physically no available audio present, like: people talking or moving around, street traffic, ocean waves, sounds of wildlife, wind, and etc. This non-present audio would play back on your video as a loud silence and usually picks up sounds from your camcorder or you handling the controls. Once there is actual audio present the built in mic seems to become less sensitive as if there were an auto sound limiter built in, which could be.
I have run a few tests myself and I found that it helps to switch your audio settings to Auto Wind screen mode at 12bit, this will cut back some mic sensitivity. I personally believe that the problem is caused by a design issue with the port holes being to small for the mic chamber and is causing a kind of a re-verb echo effect.
To eliminate this sensitive mic noise problem and improve your audio at the same time, I am recommending the same professional solution as pros do, use an external mic. at 16bit audio and mount it around six inches off the camcorder. You will have a greatly improved professional audio sound with out the loud silent noise of hearing the camcorder or yourself handling the camcorder buttons. You have also proved this solution as you mentioned that you did not have the problem anymore with the external mic. Try mounting the mic off the camcorder on a bracket this time about six inches away and you will hear even a better difference.
Hope this helps you out.
Piero Foto
Should I purchase the Elura100 or the new ZR850? (acpotts — 02/27/2007)
Trying to decide which is the better camera, the Elura100 or the new ZR850? I'm not concerned with the slightly higher price of the Elura but the new Quickstart feature on the ZR850 is attractive.
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by James DeRuvo (02/27/2007)
As I mentioned in a previous answer, all things being equal - the Elura has a feature which I find very helpful if you have home movies still on analog VHS or 8mm tape. That is the Analog to Digital pass through. This feature will allow you to hook up a VCR or old analog camcorder and capture those home movies to your PC and edit and burn to DVD.
I like that.
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I like that.
Piero Foto (02/28/2007)
Hi, ACPotts.
Well here it is, if you want a good reliable quality of a point and shoot camcorder but still have the options for creative fun for when you are in the mood or maybe to have the ability to fine tune your video controls to get even better results if shooting specific situations like sports, fireworks, wildlife, and etc. then the I am highly recommending the Canon Elura 100, the best all around mainstream camcorder on the market that delivers big performance with an impressive picture quality for the money, retailed as low as $295. It is a very veratile DV camcorder for just about any type shooting style and is action packed with features for when you need to use them. This is truly a camcorder that you will not grow out of or least for a long while. The Elura can be used by beginners to the demanding consumers.
The Elura 100 is a great choice for movie editing on MAC or PC. It uses mini DV tapes is a preferred choice by professionals because tapes does do not compress the video data information which in turn produces the best quality for video transfers to DVD and works like a charm with movie editing software. The Elura is one of a rare few that comes with an external mic option, this is a great feature for improving sound quality like at concerts, airshows, and etc. For movie making or interviews the Elura can also use wireless mic systems that will record distant sounds and voices from two football fields away. Plus, the audio dubbing feature can allow you to add music to your video footage from an external audio device without a computer, you can add music in addition to the original sound or record over the original sound on your existing video footage. there is a few options for different audio chanel combinations.
THE ELURA 100 OPERATES AT 3 LEVELS, FOR THE BASIC CONSUMER TO THE ADVANCED VIDEOOGRAPHER:
1) Easy Mode: This feature gives you a fully automatic point-and-shoot camcorder. This is a great feature for people that just want to turn the camcorder on and hit record. With this feature the Elura does all the thinking for you and generally produces nice results.
2) Scene Selection: The Elura offers 8 auto scene selection modes for capturing scenes from fireworks display, night scenes, bright beach scenes to fast action sports. These settings are preset from Canon. The exposure, focus, shutter speed and color balance are preset differently for each scene, so you don't even have to think or fuss with settings, for e.g.: the sport scene mode would be automatically set to a higher shutter speed to capture fast motions for a crisper picture by eliminating the motion blur. You can also manually add special effects in combination with the scene selections.
3) Custom manual mode: Manual functions are a big bonus for any DV camcorder. This is where you can not only be experimental, but also control your video the way you want. With manual functions you can fine tune your settings to best suit your personal scene conditions, for e.g.: just with sports, video recording Hockey vs Baseball, the two scene conditions are totally different even though there both classified as sports. So in this situation you would need to adjust the exposure to compensate for the ice rink brightness and then you will have the perfect capture. The easymode feature in many shooting conditions is usually intelligent enough to automatically make these adjustments for you, but the manual mode is more stable for when you need it.
If you plan to edit your movies on a computer so you can cut out unwanted video footage, and or maybe add special effects, music and titles, or just transfer the entire footage onto DVD, then mini DV tapes is the best way to go for quality.
Mini DVD Disc and Hard Drive camcorders are limited and record in a compressed MPEG2 format which are fine if your intentions are just to shoot and leave the video footage in its original media format for viewing playback only. They are not as computer friendly as mini tape with editing software or transferring to DVD on your computer, also the image quality will not be as good when transferred. The mini DVD disc camcorder has the advantage of putting the disc in direct to a DVD player after recording. The hard drive camcorder is nice because it gives you a big storage space to accumulate allot of video footage without ever any need to change your recording media, but if the hard drive melfunctions some how, or the camcorder gets damaged, or gets stolen, then it will be good bye to all your recorded memories if you haven't backed it up.
HERE IS A QUICK REVIEW ON THE ZR850:
- THE GOOD: New, easier-to-use menu system with joystick control; impressive color in good lighting;
wide-screen LCD; built-in lens cover; low price.
- THE BAD: No accessory shoe or microphone input; bottom-loading tape compartment; doesn't support
analog-to-digital conversions; not enough stabilization at full zoom; poor low-light performance.
- THE BOTTOM LINE: Canon's new Mini DV top model, the ZR850, continues the ZR tradition of offering
affordable, easy-to-use wide-screen movie-making, though low-light performance is still subpar.
I hope this info will give you a better perspective of choosing the right camcorder.
Happy Shopping!
Piero Foto
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Well here it is, if you want a good reliable quality of a point and shoot camcorder but still have the options for creative fun for when you are in the mood or maybe to have the ability to fine tune your video controls to get even better results if shooting specific situations like sports, fireworks, wildlife, and etc. then the I am highly recommending the Canon Elura 100, the best all around mainstream camcorder on the market that delivers big performance with an impressive picture quality for the money, retailed as low as $295. It is a very veratile DV camcorder for just about any type shooting style and is action packed with features for when you need to use them. This is truly a camcorder that you will not grow out of or least for a long while. The Elura can be used by beginners to the demanding consumers.
The Elura 100 is a great choice for movie editing on MAC or PC. It uses mini DV tapes is a preferred choice by professionals because tapes does do not compress the video data information which in turn produces the best quality for video transfers to DVD and works like a charm with movie editing software. The Elura is one of a rare few that comes with an external mic option, this is a great feature for improving sound quality like at concerts, airshows, and etc. For movie making or interviews the Elura can also use wireless mic systems that will record distant sounds and voices from two football fields away. Plus, the audio dubbing feature can allow you to add music to your video footage from an external audio device without a computer, you can add music in addition to the original sound or record over the original sound on your existing video footage. there is a few options for different audio chanel combinations.
THE ELURA 100 OPERATES AT 3 LEVELS, FOR THE BASIC CONSUMER TO THE ADVANCED VIDEOOGRAPHER:
1) Easy Mode: This feature gives you a fully automatic point-and-shoot camcorder. This is a great feature for people that just want to turn the camcorder on and hit record. With this feature the Elura does all the thinking for you and generally produces nice results.
2) Scene Selection: The Elura offers 8 auto scene selection modes for capturing scenes from fireworks display, night scenes, bright beach scenes to fast action sports. These settings are preset from Canon. The exposure, focus, shutter speed and color balance are preset differently for each scene, so you don't even have to think or fuss with settings, for e.g.: the sport scene mode would be automatically set to a higher shutter speed to capture fast motions for a crisper picture by eliminating the motion blur. You can also manually add special effects in combination with the scene selections.
3) Custom manual mode: Manual functions are a big bonus for any DV camcorder. This is where you can not only be experimental, but also control your video the way you want. With manual functions you can fine tune your settings to best suit your personal scene conditions, for e.g.: just with sports, video recording Hockey vs Baseball, the two scene conditions are totally different even though there both classified as sports. So in this situation you would need to adjust the exposure to compensate for the ice rink brightness and then you will have the perfect capture. The easymode feature in many shooting conditions is usually intelligent enough to automatically make these adjustments for you, but the manual mode is more stable for when you need it.
If you plan to edit your movies on a computer so you can cut out unwanted video footage, and or maybe add special effects, music and titles, or just transfer the entire footage onto DVD, then mini DV tapes is the best way to go for quality.
Mini DVD Disc and Hard Drive camcorders are limited and record in a compressed MPEG2 format which are fine if your intentions are just to shoot and leave the video footage in its original media format for viewing playback only. They are not as computer friendly as mini tape with editing software or transferring to DVD on your computer, also the image quality will not be as good when transferred. The mini DVD disc camcorder has the advantage of putting the disc in direct to a DVD player after recording. The hard drive camcorder is nice because it gives you a big storage space to accumulate allot of video footage without ever any need to change your recording media, but if the hard drive melfunctions some how, or the camcorder gets damaged, or gets stolen, then it will be good bye to all your recorded memories if you haven't backed it up.
HERE IS A QUICK REVIEW ON THE ZR850:
- THE GOOD: New, easier-to-use menu system with joystick control; impressive color in good lighting;
wide-screen LCD; built-in lens cover; low price.
- THE BAD: No accessory shoe or microphone input; bottom-loading tape compartment; doesn't support
analog-to-digital conversions; not enough stabilization at full zoom; poor low-light performance.
- THE BOTTOM LINE: Canon's new Mini DV top model, the ZR850, continues the ZR tradition of offering
affordable, easy-to-use wide-screen movie-making, though low-light performance is still subpar.
I hope this info will give you a better perspective of choosing the right camcorder.
Happy Shopping!
Piero Foto
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acpotts (02/28/2007)
Thank you for your thorough response.
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Piero Foto (02/28/2007)
Hi again, ACPotts.
Has your question been answered or do need more advice on something specific.
Piero Foto
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Has your question been answered or do need more advice on something specific.
Piero Foto
Piero Foto (03/14/2007)
Hi, ACPotts.
UPDATE!
If you are still thinking about the Elura 100, you need to act quick. I just wanted to let you know that the Elura is getting tougher by the minute to find and if you can find one you will be most likely be paying above list. The ZR850 is still your backup.
Good Luck!
piero foto
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UPDATE!
If you are still thinking about the Elura 100, you need to act quick. I just wanted to let you know that the Elura is getting tougher by the minute to find and if you can find one you will be most likely be paying above list. The ZR850 is still your backup.
Good Luck!
piero foto
problem with buzzing from AV connection (cbowlan51 — 02/28/2007)
If I plug headphones into the camera (I've tried several), I get a loud buzzing noise. I've tried running the Elura off its battery and off the power cord. I tried adding a grounding plug to the camera cord's plug. Still buzzes. What's the problem?
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Rich Watson (02/28/2007)
Sounds like an impedance mis-match. Are the two products designed for each other?
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Piero Foto (03/01/2007)
Hi. C. Bowlan.
This answer will cost you 20 points, Ready!
The problem is not the headsets or earplugs, I have tried both and it sounds great with out the buzzing.
For some reason the mini jack has to be placed in the AV port just right or you will get that buzzing noise. It looks like a design problem with improper AV port placement. If the mini plug is in all the way you will get buzzing in one chanel, if you pull it out enough will get buzzing in the other chanel or both left and right.
Here is the Solution: You will need to push the mini jack in all the way and then slowly pull it out about 1/16" just enough to catch the contacts between both Chanel's. when you get it right, it sounds perfect.
Keep in mind that the volume is pre-set so you can not adjust. No big deal, its just enough volume anyway.
I am glad to help!
Piero Foto
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This answer will cost you 20 points, Ready!
The problem is not the headsets or earplugs, I have tried both and it sounds great with out the buzzing.
For some reason the mini jack has to be placed in the AV port just right or you will get that buzzing noise. It looks like a design problem with improper AV port placement. If the mini plug is in all the way you will get buzzing in one chanel, if you pull it out enough will get buzzing in the other chanel or both left and right.
Here is the Solution: You will need to push the mini jack in all the way and then slowly pull it out about 1/16" just enough to catch the contacts between both Chanel's. when you get it right, it sounds perfect.
Keep in mind that the volume is pre-set so you can not adjust. No big deal, its just enough volume anyway.
I am glad to help!
Piero Foto
Rich Watson (03/02/2007)
YIKES! That answer makes me want to buy a different model!
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Piero Foto (03/02/2007)
Hi. C. Bowlan.
Disregard Richio's comment, and any other following negative comment, it was unprofessional of him and I do apologize on his behalf.
I assure you that you made a great choice with the Elura, its one of the best DV consumer camcorders on the market right now, and more than likely the best overall mini DV tape camcorder under $400. There is no such thing as a perfect camcorder, just about every camcorder has easily a dozen negative issues about it, but if you only have just a few, then you have a great camcorder.
When I get a chance I am going to look further into this crazy issue with the head phone jack. It could be possible it might require a special mini jack for it.
Here is an actual review on the Elura 100, I want to share this with you because I found this review unique the way it was written:
ACTUAL REVIEW:
The rain forest, the polar ice caps, and the MiniDV, three quickly diminishing resources we would like to save. In some of the clearest evidence that Mini DV is indeed going the way of the dinosaur, Canon has replaced the entire Elura line (three models last year) with the just one model, the Elura 100. How can one camcorder replace an entire line, you ask? While you ponder that, also consider the strange fact that the Elura 100 has a $399 price point, the same price set for the Canon ZR700. How do they compare?
-end.
The Canon Elura 100 has not only dominated over and eliminated the other camcorder models in its own line, but its also holding very Strong grounds against the mini DV tape camcorders in new Canon ZR line.
I am a certified Master Pro Digital Photographer offerring advice to individuals like yourself. I do not represent or employed any camera manufacture.
My resposes and answers are mainly based from hands on professional experience and knowledge. Written information would be considered just as guide.
Happy Shooting!
Piero Foto
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Disregard Richio's comment, and any other following negative comment, it was unprofessional of him and I do apologize on his behalf.
I assure you that you made a great choice with the Elura, its one of the best DV consumer camcorders on the market right now, and more than likely the best overall mini DV tape camcorder under $400. There is no such thing as a perfect camcorder, just about every camcorder has easily a dozen negative issues about it, but if you only have just a few, then you have a great camcorder.
When I get a chance I am going to look further into this crazy issue with the head phone jack. It could be possible it might require a special mini jack for it.
Here is an actual review on the Elura 100, I want to share this with you because I found this review unique the way it was written:
ACTUAL REVIEW:
The rain forest, the polar ice caps, and the MiniDV, three quickly diminishing resources we would like to save. In some of the clearest evidence that Mini DV is indeed going the way of the dinosaur, Canon has replaced the entire Elura line (three models last year) with the just one model, the Elura 100. How can one camcorder replace an entire line, you ask? While you ponder that, also consider the strange fact that the Elura 100 has a $399 price point, the same price set for the Canon ZR700. How do they compare?
-end.
The Canon Elura 100 has not only dominated over and eliminated the other camcorder models in its own line, but its also holding very Strong grounds against the mini DV tape camcorders in new Canon ZR line.
I am a certified Master Pro Digital Photographer offerring advice to individuals like yourself. I do not represent or employed any camera manufacture.
My resposes and answers are mainly based from hands on professional experience and knowledge. Written information would be considered just as guide.
Happy Shooting!
Piero Foto
Rich Watson (03/02/2007)
Yeah, I'm just so negative and all...
No need to apologize (I'm sure I didn't offend Mr. Bowlan by being HONEST)
No need to apologize ...unless you work for Canon, that is.
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No need to apologize (I'm sure I didn't offend Mr. Bowlan by being HONEST)
No need to apologize ...unless you work for Canon, that is.
Piero Foto (03/02/2007)
Hi. C. Bowlan.
Let me know if you were able to get your headphones working properly, I am curious.
You can just respond in the "Add a reply" box below.
Thanks!
Piero Foto
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Let me know if you were able to get your headphones working properly, I am curious.
You can just respond in the "Add a reply" box below.
Thanks!
Piero Foto
Piero Foto (03/02/2007)
Hi. C. Bowlan.
Final Conclusion:
To confirm your question about the headphone buzzing noise, the Elura does not support a audio headphones, that's why the headphone jack does work properly in the AV port.
So in conclusion to the answer I recommended in my original reply, its a huge bonus of figuring out a way to make your headphones work when their not suppose to. A technical specialist at Canon was even amazed that I was able even to achieve that.
FINAL SOLUTION AND STEPS for headphone use on the Elura:
First, go to your playback menu with joy stick and scroll 2-down to audio set up, then scroll 4-down to 12bit audio, select 12bit audio and make sure that the audio mode is set to ST1 (stereo 1), then exit. Your headphones will not work with ST2 in some audio mode combinations.The MIX Audio modes work, but ST1 sounds best with headphones..
Now you will need to push the mini jack in all the way and then slowly back it out about 1/16" just enough to catch the ground contacts between both Chanel's. Once its positioned correctly, it will remain in that postion and give you clear and a distortion(BUZZ) free sound.
In final, the headphone mini jack even though not supported on the Elura it will not harm the AV port.
This should conclude your question and at the same time resolved an issue that should have not been able to resolve.
Happy Listening!
Piero Foto
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Final Conclusion:
To confirm your question about the headphone buzzing noise, the Elura does not support a audio headphones, that's why the headphone jack does work properly in the AV port.
So in conclusion to the answer I recommended in my original reply, its a huge bonus of figuring out a way to make your headphones work when their not suppose to. A technical specialist at Canon was even amazed that I was able even to achieve that.
FINAL SOLUTION AND STEPS for headphone use on the Elura:
First, go to your playback menu with joy stick and scroll 2-down to audio set up, then scroll 4-down to 12bit audio, select 12bit audio and make sure that the audio mode is set to ST1 (stereo 1), then exit. Your headphones will not work with ST2 in some audio mode combinations.The MIX Audio modes work, but ST1 sounds best with headphones..
Now you will need to push the mini jack in all the way and then slowly back it out about 1/16" just enough to catch the ground contacts between both Chanel's. Once its positioned correctly, it will remain in that postion and give you clear and a distortion(BUZZ) free sound.
In final, the headphone mini jack even though not supported on the Elura it will not harm the AV port.
This should conclude your question and at the same time resolved an issue that should have not been able to resolve.
Happy Listening!
Piero Foto
Rich Watson (03/02/2007)
So I guess my first answer was the correct one, after all.
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Piero Foto (03/02/2007)
Hi Mr. Richio,
I was expecting this to be your next response. Part of your answer held some weight, I have no problem with that, but you also answered the question with a question. C. Bowlan was looking for advice on a solution to an audio problem on this website from a digital adviser, but not to have go elsewhere to find the answer to your question. Your response left C. Bowlan in a no better situation, That's not what I call resolving the problem.
The purpose of this Digital Advisor website is to resolve digital issues, problems, and give informative answers to the consumers that are asking for our advice as advisers. I do not like to respond to a question and leave the consumer just as or more confused than when they originally ask the question. I also do not like to use elaborate technical terms ("impedance") with out an expnation of what they mean. You can't assume that consumers know all the technical terms, if they did, they would be able to figure out their own digital problems. I have read many reviews from digital advisers that were just totally saturated with tech talk, meanwhile the consumer that asked the question had no clue even how to put the tape in the camcorder.
-- C. Bowlan needed to know what the problem was and how to resolve it.
-- My mission was to figure out the problem was and to resolve it, and I did just that. In fact I made a feature come alive that did not exist. What is your accomplishment in this matter.
So if you want to get together for a couple of beers and talk tech., then no problem I live in Ft. Lauderdale and the weather is sunny and perfect here, but I do not want to waist my time explaining myself because you have to make remarks. If you do not agree with my answers, then you should use up your time to resolve the consumers needs. This is not a competitive race for me, I am just having some fun offering free advice to help out consumers with digital issues.
So next next time I should here from you is if you are in Ft.lauderdale and want to get together for a few beers either by the ocean or pool side. That's All!
Thanks!, for patience C. Bowlan.
Now I rest my case and need to move forward.
Piero Foto
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I was expecting this to be your next response. Part of your answer held some weight, I have no problem with that, but you also answered the question with a question. C. Bowlan was looking for advice on a solution to an audio problem on this website from a digital adviser, but not to have go elsewhere to find the answer to your question. Your response left C. Bowlan in a no better situation, That's not what I call resolving the problem.
The purpose of this Digital Advisor website is to resolve digital issues, problems, and give informative answers to the consumers that are asking for our advice as advisers. I do not like to respond to a question and leave the consumer just as or more confused than when they originally ask the question. I also do not like to use elaborate technical terms ("impedance") with out an expnation of what they mean. You can't assume that consumers know all the technical terms, if they did, they would be able to figure out their own digital problems. I have read many reviews from digital advisers that were just totally saturated with tech talk, meanwhile the consumer that asked the question had no clue even how to put the tape in the camcorder.
-- C. Bowlan needed to know what the problem was and how to resolve it.
-- My mission was to figure out the problem was and to resolve it, and I did just that. In fact I made a feature come alive that did not exist. What is your accomplishment in this matter.
So if you want to get together for a couple of beers and talk tech., then no problem I live in Ft. Lauderdale and the weather is sunny and perfect here, but I do not want to waist my time explaining myself because you have to make remarks. If you do not agree with my answers, then you should use up your time to resolve the consumers needs. This is not a competitive race for me, I am just having some fun offering free advice to help out consumers with digital issues.
So next next time I should here from you is if you are in Ft.lauderdale and want to get together for a few beers either by the ocean or pool side. That's All!
Thanks!, for patience C. Bowlan.
Now I rest my case and need to move forward.
Piero Foto
Rich Watson (03/03/2007)
I am ready to put this at rest as well, so I plan this to be non-confrontational, hopefully to obviate the need for a response from you.
More often than I like to think about, the questions that are asked on this site are vague, incomplete, or just plain confusing. I understand that many people have very limited knowledge of cameras, photography, or technical subjects. Others might be children/juveniles, and some might be one beer short of a six-pack, if you know what I mean. On the other hand, some questioners are too lazy, apparently, to go look up something in the owner's manual.
So I see nothing wrong with posing a question with a question, if more details are needed.
Yes, you did pose a solution. It's just that I have a problem with spending lots of money on a premium electronics product, only to have to 'fiddle with the 1/16" gap' solution that seems to work for you. In hind sight, yes, Canon says that jack is not designed for headphones, and therefore the problem/solution is a moot point. As long as Canon says that using the jack that way will not mess up the camera, hey, go for it.
Thanks anyway for the beer offer. :)
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More often than I like to think about, the questions that are asked on this site are vague, incomplete, or just plain confusing. I understand that many people have very limited knowledge of cameras, photography, or technical subjects. Others might be children/juveniles, and some might be one beer short of a six-pack, if you know what I mean. On the other hand, some questioners are too lazy, apparently, to go look up something in the owner's manual.
So I see nothing wrong with posing a question with a question, if more details are needed.
Yes, you did pose a solution. It's just that I have a problem with spending lots of money on a premium electronics product, only to have to 'fiddle with the 1/16" gap' solution that seems to work for you. In hind sight, yes, Canon says that jack is not designed for headphones, and therefore the problem/solution is a moot point. As long as Canon says that using the jack that way will not mess up the camera, hey, go for it.
Thanks anyway for the beer offer. :)
cbowlan51 (03/05/2007)
Dear Piero Photo,
Thanks for all your effort and excellent advice. You quickly grasped the problem and helped me with a solution. I appreciate it very much, as well your your clear explanations. C. Bowlan (PS The Canon Elura 100 manual mentions absolutely nothing about this problem. So, again, thank you very much for your help.)
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Thanks for all your effort and excellent advice. You quickly grasped the problem and helped me with a solution. I appreciate it very much, as well your your clear explanations. C. Bowlan (PS The Canon Elura 100 manual mentions absolutely nothing about this problem. So, again, thank you very much for your help.)
Help. I don't have a Firewire port, Can I download video using the USB? (electrodan — 02/28/2007)
I have read really good things about the Elura 100 but don't know if I can download using the usb port.
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Rich Watson (03/01/2007)
Why not just buy a firewire card at the computer store like CompUSA? About $20, they pop right in, any recent Windows OS (2000, XP) should read the card and set it up. Why use USB when you can get firewired?
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electrodan (03/01/2007)
I have a dell laptop so I guess I can go buy a Firewire expresscard...does anybody have any experience with these kinds of cards? Would it work well with the Elura?
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Piero Foto (03/03/2007)
Hi, Dan.
The Elura uses USB for the SD memory card, and firewire(1398) for Digital Video. Keep in mind that you will also need some type of video/movie supporting software to work with your camcorder on your computer. Plus, if you don't have a DVD burner, then you will have to convert your video footage into Quicktime movie or similar and burn it on a CD. The drawback to this is its a lower quality.
You will need a 4-6 firewire(1394) cable for the Elura which you can get at bestBuy or similar and also the internet. Richio has also suggested to get a firewire card because you don't have one in your computer, well, you have to have get firewire. It also sounds like you need some serious upgrading on your computer end.
But first, before you make any upgrades to your computer, ask yourself if you are due for a new computer, the reason why I am asking this is because the new computers now days come with allot of bells and whistles. It will already include Video/Movie software, USB 2.0 and Firewire(1398) ports, custom audio movie software, newer versions of photo software, and allot of other good stuff. I can bet that after spending the money to upgrade your outdated system for your camcorder use, its not going to perform as good and you will still probably have on going video issues of some sort. Then you will finally throw in the towel and go buy a new computer any way. If it was dealing with a still camera it would be no big deal, but video is a different animal. First research all your costs in upgrades, software, DVD burners, an additional harddrives and etc. If you get very close to the cost of a new one which includes what you need, then go for a new computer, especially if you are due for one any way. PC's are much cheaper than MAC, so you should be able get allot for good price. I have around $4000 innvested just in my Mac Pro laptop, so you can get a PC for a third of that or less. I am guessing around $35-50 a month.
ALSO CONSIDER THESE REQUIREMENTS:
Higher the quality of video also means more data information is packed in the video picture, so you will need more hard drive storage space and a much more powerful computer to properly work with video, for e.g.: with the Elura 100 at the high quality mode you need about 210 MB of hard drive space per recorded video minute, that works out to 12.6 GB for a 60 minute tape. When you edit your movie footage those megabytes double in size. Now at this point you are working with an editing project of 20GB+. If you are dealing with HD format, forget it. One HD movie would consume your whole computer as if a large snake was digesting a baby deer. You need to consider big processing power min 2000 MHZ+, ram memory min 1.5GB+, fast video graphic card, and big hard space or external drives of min 200GB+, and latest operating system. This all might sound discouraging, but I would hate to see you spend money to upgrade your computer and then you end up buying a new one anyway.
I hope this info helps your decision.
PS: You made a great choice with the Elura 100, enjoy!
Happy shopping!
Piero Foto
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The Elura uses USB for the SD memory card, and firewire(1398) for Digital Video. Keep in mind that you will also need some type of video/movie supporting software to work with your camcorder on your computer. Plus, if you don't have a DVD burner, then you will have to convert your video footage into Quicktime movie or similar and burn it on a CD. The drawback to this is its a lower quality.
You will need a 4-6 firewire(1394) cable for the Elura which you can get at bestBuy or similar and also the internet. Richio has also suggested to get a firewire card because you don't have one in your computer, well, you have to have get firewire. It also sounds like you need some serious upgrading on your computer end.
But first, before you make any upgrades to your computer, ask yourself if you are due for a new computer, the reason why I am asking this is because the new computers now days come with allot of bells and whistles. It will already include Video/Movie software, USB 2.0 and Firewire(1398) ports, custom audio movie software, newer versions of photo software, and allot of other good stuff. I can bet that after spending the money to upgrade your outdated system for your camcorder use, its not going to perform as good and you will still probably have on going video issues of some sort. Then you will finally throw in the towel and go buy a new computer any way. If it was dealing with a still camera it would be no big deal, but video is a different animal. First research all your costs in upgrades, software, DVD burners, an additional harddrives and etc. If you get very close to the cost of a new one which includes what you need, then go for a new computer, especially if you are due for one any way. PC's are much cheaper than MAC, so you should be able get allot for good price. I have around $4000 innvested just in my Mac Pro laptop, so you can get a PC for a third of that or less. I am guessing around $35-50 a month.
ALSO CONSIDER THESE REQUIREMENTS:
Higher the quality of video also means more data information is packed in the video picture, so you will need more hard drive storage space and a much more powerful computer to properly work with video, for e.g.: with the Elura 100 at the high quality mode you need about 210 MB of hard drive space per recorded video minute, that works out to 12.6 GB for a 60 minute tape. When you edit your movie footage those megabytes double in size. Now at this point you are working with an editing project of 20GB+. If you are dealing with HD format, forget it. One HD movie would consume your whole computer as if a large snake was digesting a baby deer. You need to consider big processing power min 2000 MHZ+, ram memory min 1.5GB+, fast video graphic card, and big hard space or external drives of min 200GB+, and latest operating system. This all might sound discouraging, but I would hate to see you spend money to upgrade your computer and then you end up buying a new one anyway.
I hope this info helps your decision.
PS: You made a great choice with the Elura 100, enjoy!
Happy shopping!
Piero Foto
Rob (05/14/2007)
Hi Dan,
You can transfer Videos from the tape right to the SD memory
card. I don't have firewire. I have a home built desktop running
windows Vista. I will get a firewire card soon....but until then
I use the SD memory card.
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You can transfer Videos from the tape right to the SD memory
card. I don't have firewire. I have a home built desktop running
windows Vista. I will get a firewire card soon....but until then
I use the SD memory card.
Piero Foto (05/14/2007)
I strongly advice everyone that it applies to, is shoot the original video on miniDV tape first, then record it on SD memory card within the camcoder(Elura 100) after. This way you can still have a high quality video when you are able to download your main video media to your computer later.
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Ungermann (06/13/2007)
> You can transfer Videos from the tape right
> to the SD memory card.
Interesting. How do you do that?
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> to the SD memory card.
Interesting. How do you do that?
Piero Foto (06/13/2007)
Ungermann.
With the Elura 100, you can re-record any video segment or capture still photos directly to your SD card from miniDV tape.
Just playback the pre-recorded footage from the miniDV tape and hit the record button, this will record any segment directly to your SD card. You do the same procedure with still photos, but you push the photo button on any frame you want to capture a still photo while playing back your video footage from mimniDV tape. Its a cool feature.
The Elura 100 was one of the best mid-range camcorders ever made for overall performace and versatility in its class.
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With the Elura 100, you can re-record any video segment or capture still photos directly to your SD card from miniDV tape.
Just playback the pre-recorded footage from the miniDV tape and hit the record button, this will record any segment directly to your SD card. You do the same procedure with still photos, but you push the photo button on any frame you want to capture a still photo while playing back your video footage from mimniDV tape. Its a cool feature.
The Elura 100 was one of the best mid-range camcorders ever made for overall performace and versatility in its class.
Ungermann (06/14/2007)
Whoa, this is pretty cool. I don't know why would one use it though, the resolution is lower, and the frame rate AFAIK is only 15fps. Also it cannot record widescreen, it crops it to 4:3. Anyway, an interesting feature. I have Elura 100 and I love it!
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Piero Foto (06/14/2007)
That's exactly the point, its a lower resolution.
You can record video directly on the SD memory card or from the prerecorded miniDv footage. The feature of recording video on an SD card from your pre-recorded video footage is great. It gives you the option of taking video segments from miniDv tape and quickly downloading it for email or to CD.
The movies and photos from an SD card downloads and works just like a still camera, That's the difference. This feature has nothing to do with playing back for TV, or editing high resolution miniDV video.
I have come across some cool things about the Elura 100 that are not even in the manual.
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You can record video directly on the SD memory card or from the prerecorded miniDv footage. The feature of recording video on an SD card from your pre-recorded video footage is great. It gives you the option of taking video segments from miniDv tape and quickly downloading it for email or to CD.
The movies and photos from an SD card downloads and works just like a still camera, That's the difference. This feature has nothing to do with playing back for TV, or editing high resolution miniDV video.
I have come across some cool things about the Elura 100 that are not even in the manual.
Piero Foto (06/14/2007)
Ungermann.
The Elura 100 is a great little cam and I would keep it for as long as you can. The newer version of miniDV cams that been released on the market, now record with an MPEG file format, not good for the demanding videographers like yourself. MPEG (1-2-4) video files are compressed and will loose quality, especially after transferring. Canon seems to be the biggest in supporting pure SD(standard definition) uncompressed video on miniDV tape, for how long, its hard to say.
With the Elura 100, you can maintain the original uncompressed video quality from your final editied version by transfering the footage back to miniDV tape, then playback to your TV. This way you have no quality loss, because when you burn it to DVD disc your video will be a compressed file. Its still a good quality from the Elura, but its better to transfer it back to miniDV tape for large viewing on an HD TV. Cams with MPEG video files will be compressed twice when it gets to DVD disc which produces a lower quality for large viewing, and sometimes not even great for regular TVs.
I say to keep your Elura 100 as long as you can, it may be that last of the Mohican's.
Later!
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The Elura 100 is a great little cam and I would keep it for as long as you can. The newer version of miniDV cams that been released on the market, now record with an MPEG file format, not good for the demanding videographers like yourself. MPEG (1-2-4) video files are compressed and will loose quality, especially after transferring. Canon seems to be the biggest in supporting pure SD(standard definition) uncompressed video on miniDV tape, for how long, its hard to say.
With the Elura 100, you can maintain the original uncompressed video quality from your final editied version by transfering the footage back to miniDV tape, then playback to your TV. This way you have no quality loss, because when you burn it to DVD disc your video will be a compressed file. Its still a good quality from the Elura, but its better to transfer it back to miniDV tape for large viewing on an HD TV. Cams with MPEG video files will be compressed twice when it gets to DVD disc which produces a lower quality for large viewing, and sometimes not even great for regular TVs.
I say to keep your Elura 100 as long as you can, it may be that last of the Mohican's.
Later!
by James DeRuvo (07/14/2007)
Dan, Firewire cards are less than $20 these days and are as simple as plugging in to install. That's where I'd be looking if I were you. You'll be better off with the larger bandwidth firewire gives you. Also capture using WinDV. Free software that won't drop a frame.
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Best type of camcorder for taping soccer games for college recruiters? (DiH7979 — 03/02/2007)
Need to make a DVD of my son to send to college coaches. what's the easiest to use and get the job done?
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by James DeRuvo (03/02/2007)
I'm a big fan of Canon ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). Particularly the Canon Elura ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). It has widescreen ability, image stabilization, recording in Dolby, and a nifty little feature called analog to digital pass through, which enables you to take those home movies you have on VHS and capture them onto your PC by daisy chaining your VCR through the camera and into the PC via firewire. Then you can edit and burn to DVD as well. Great feature.
Some will argue that due to the design, that the Elura can record noise from it's mechanisms being so close to the microphone. My research suggests that this may or may not be a design flaw as many just don't get the noise issue on their videos while some complain they do. I'm not convinced it's a design wide issue and may be due to faulty individual units that need to be repaired or replaced. Still, it's a good solid camera and there are great prices on the link above.
Another good option is the Panasonic GS500 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). 3CCD camera with both firewire and USB 2.0 for transfer, image stabilization, and recording on miniDV. Word on the street though, is that the GS500 has been discontinued to make ready for a new model. You can still find it available as vendors sell out their existing stock to make ready. And support will still be available for it.
Both these cameras are good solid options.
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Some will argue that due to the design, that the Elura can record noise from it's mechanisms being so close to the microphone. My research suggests that this may or may not be a design flaw as many just don't get the noise issue on their videos while some complain they do. I'm not convinced it's a design wide issue and may be due to faulty individual units that need to be repaired or replaced. Still, it's a good solid camera and there are great prices on the link above.
Another good option is the Panasonic GS500 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). 3CCD camera with both firewire and USB 2.0 for transfer, image stabilization, and recording on miniDV. Word on the street though, is that the GS500 has been discontinued to make ready for a new model. You can still find it available as vendors sell out their existing stock to make ready. And support will still be available for it.
Both these cameras are good solid options.
Piero Foto (03/02/2007)
Hi Diane.
If you want a good reliable quality and the simplicity of a point and shoot camcorder for easy training, but still have the options for creative shooting, or the advanced ability to adjust your controls to get even better results when shooting specific situations like your sports, and etc. Then I am highly recommending the Canon Elura 100. The Elura 100 is the great all around mainstream camcorder on the market that delivers big performance for under $325. The Elura has an impressive picture quality, 20x zoom, true wide screen recording and is very veratile for just about any type shooting style. Its also action packed with features and is truly a camcorder that you will not grow out of for a while. The Elura can be used by beginners to the advanced videographers.
The Elura 100 is a great choice for movie editing on MAC or PC. It uses mini DV tapes a preferred choice by professionals because tapes does do not compress the video data information which in turn produces the best quality for video transfers to DVD and works like a charm with movie editing software.
The Elura 100 is one of a rare few DV camcorders that comes with an external mic option, this is a great feature for dramatically improving audio sound like at sporting events, concerts, airshows, and etc. Built in condenser mics generally do to not good produce good quality on any camcorder. The Elura 100 can also be used with a wireless mic system, this allows you to place a small lapel wireless microphone on a soccer player and record action audio sounds and voices that surrounds the athlete during play and give a live broadcast feeling of professional sports. A good quality wireless mic system can easily record audio sound from a distance of two full soccer fields. Plus, the audio dubbing feature can also allow you to add voice over and narrate your video soccer footage from an external mic or an audio device without a computer. The Analog to Digital pass through offers you the feature of transferring your analog VHS/Video 8 tape collection to DVD. This gives the option to update or add older soccer footage to your new video coverage.
THE ELURA 100 OPERATES AT 3 LEVELS, FOR THE BASIC CONSUMER TO THE ADVANCED VIDEOOGRAPHER:
1) Easy Mode: This feature gives you a fully automatic point-and-shoot camcorder. This is a great feature for people that just want to turn the camcorder on and hit record. With this feature the Elura does all the thinking for you and generally produces nice results.
2) Scene Selection: The Elura offers 8 auto scene selection modes for capturing scenes from fireworks display, night scenes, bright beach scenes to fast action sports. These settings are preset from Canon. The exposure, focus, shutter speed and color balance are preset differently for each scene, so you don't even have to think or fuss with settings, for e.g.: the sport scene mode would be automatically set to a higher shutter speed to capture fast motions for a crisper picture by eliminating the motion blur. You can also manually add special effects in combination with the scene selections. For,eg: you can start the recording with the video picture fading in and then end the recording with the video picture tumbling out of the frame. You can apply these and other special in camera effects with out a computer.
3) Custom manual mode: Manual functions are a big bonus for any DV camcorder. This is where you can not only be experimental, but also control your video the way you want. With manual functions you can fine tune your settings to best suit your personal scene conditions, for e.g.: just with sports, video recording Hockey vs Soccer, the two scene conditions are totally different even though there both classified as sports. So in this situation you would need to do is adjust the exposure to make the ice rink brightness a Little darker or the soccer Field a little brighter if its a night game, then you will have the good capture. The easymode feature in many shooting conditions is usually intelligent enough to automatically make these adjustments for you, but the manual mode is more stable for when you need it most.
The three types of DV camcorders available:
1)Mini DV tape camcorder 2)Mini DVD disc camcorder 3) Hard drive camcorder
If you plan to edit your soccer footage or movies on a computer so that you can cut out unwanted video footage, and or maybe add special effects, music and titles, or just make DVD copies, then a mini DV tape camcorder is the way to go. Mini DV tapes has longer recording times than mini discs and is also more reliable. The tapeless hard drive camcorders does not have an issue of running out recording media, but your video footage cannot be physically removed from the camcorder, it can only be electronically removed by computer if you want to back up the video information on another storage system. The mini DV tape and mini DVD disc media can be considered as instant video backup storage when physically removed from the camcorder.
Mini DVD Disc and Hard Drive camcorders are limited and record in a compressed MPEG2 format which are fine if your intentions are just to shoot and leave the video footage in its original media format for viewing playback only. They are not as computer friendly as mini tape with editing software or transferring to DVD on your computer, also the image quality will not be as good when transferred. The mini DVD disc camcorder has the advantage of putting the disc in direct to a DVD player after recording. The hard drive camcorder is nice because it gives you a big storage space to accumulate allot of video footage without ever any need to change your recording media, but if the hard drive melfunctions some how, or the camcorder gets damaged, or gets stolen, then it will be good bye to all your recorded memories if you haven't backed it up.
The Elura 100 is available through vendors that linked to this site and sell for an average of $325. There some vendors that offer refurbished Elura camcorders at around $295. If you need one right away, BestBuy is a good bet. I paid $335 at BestBuy 6-months ago which is still considered a Good deal. The Elura's list price is around $400.
I hope this info will give you a better perspective of choosing the right camcorder.
Happy shopping!
Piero Foto
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If you want a good reliable quality and the simplicity of a point and shoot camcorder for easy training, but still have the options for creative shooting, or the advanced ability to adjust your controls to get even better results when shooting specific situations like your sports, and etc. Then I am highly recommending the Canon Elura 100. The Elura 100 is the great all around mainstream camcorder on the market that delivers big performance for under $325. The Elura has an impressive picture quality, 20x zoom, true wide screen recording and is very veratile for just about any type shooting style. Its also action packed with features and is truly a camcorder that you will not grow out of for a while. The Elura can be used by beginners to the advanced videographers.
The Elura 100 is a great choice for movie editing on MAC or PC. It uses mini DV tapes a preferred choice by professionals because tapes does do not compress the video data information which in turn produces the best quality for video transfers to DVD and works like a charm with movie editing software.
The Elura 100 is one of a rare few DV camcorders that comes with an external mic option, this is a great feature for dramatically improving audio sound like at sporting events, concerts, airshows, and etc. Built in condenser mics generally do to not good produce good quality on any camcorder. The Elura 100 can also be used with a wireless mic system, this allows you to place a small lapel wireless microphone on a soccer player and record action audio sounds and voices that surrounds the athlete during play and give a live broadcast feeling of professional sports. A good quality wireless mic system can easily record audio sound from a distance of two full soccer fields. Plus, the audio dubbing feature can also allow you to add voice over and narrate your video soccer footage from an external mic or an audio device without a computer. The Analog to Digital pass through offers you the feature of transferring your analog VHS/Video 8 tape collection to DVD. This gives the option to update or add older soccer footage to your new video coverage.
THE ELURA 100 OPERATES AT 3 LEVELS, FOR THE BASIC CONSUMER TO THE ADVANCED VIDEOOGRAPHER:
1) Easy Mode: This feature gives you a fully automatic point-and-shoot camcorder. This is a great feature for people that just want to turn the camcorder on and hit record. With this feature the Elura does all the thinking for you and generally produces nice results.
2) Scene Selection: The Elura offers 8 auto scene selection modes for capturing scenes from fireworks display, night scenes, bright beach scenes to fast action sports. These settings are preset from Canon. The exposure, focus, shutter speed and color balance are preset differently for each scene, so you don't even have to think or fuss with settings, for e.g.: the sport scene mode would be automatically set to a higher shutter speed to capture fast motions for a crisper picture by eliminating the motion blur. You can also manually add special effects in combination with the scene selections. For,eg: you can start the recording with the video picture fading in and then end the recording with the video picture tumbling out of the frame. You can apply these and other special in camera effects with out a computer.
3) Custom manual mode: Manual functions are a big bonus for any DV camcorder. This is where you can not only be experimental, but also control your video the way you want. With manual functions you can fine tune your settings to best suit your personal scene conditions, for e.g.: just with sports, video recording Hockey vs Soccer, the two scene conditions are totally different even though there both classified as sports. So in this situation you would need to do is adjust the exposure to make the ice rink brightness a Little darker or the soccer Field a little brighter if its a night game, then you will have the good capture. The easymode feature in many shooting conditions is usually intelligent enough to automatically make these adjustments for you, but the manual mode is more stable for when you need it most.
The three types of DV camcorders available:
1)Mini DV tape camcorder 2)Mini DVD disc camcorder 3) Hard drive camcorder
If you plan to edit your soccer footage or movies on a computer so that you can cut out unwanted video footage, and or maybe add special effects, music and titles, or just make DVD copies, then a mini DV tape camcorder is the way to go. Mini DV tapes has longer recording times than mini discs and is also more reliable. The tapeless hard drive camcorders does not have an issue of running out recording media, but your video footage cannot be physically removed from the camcorder, it can only be electronically removed by computer if you want to back up the video information on another storage system. The mini DV tape and mini DVD disc media can be considered as instant video backup storage when physically removed from the camcorder.
Mini DVD Disc and Hard Drive camcorders are limited and record in a compressed MPEG2 format which are fine if your intentions are just to shoot and leave the video footage in its original media format for viewing playback only. They are not as computer friendly as mini tape with editing software or transferring to DVD on your computer, also the image quality will not be as good when transferred. The mini DVD disc camcorder has the advantage of putting the disc in direct to a DVD player after recording. The hard drive camcorder is nice because it gives you a big storage space to accumulate allot of video footage without ever any need to change your recording media, but if the hard drive melfunctions some how, or the camcorder gets damaged, or gets stolen, then it will be good bye to all your recorded memories if you haven't backed it up.
The Elura 100 is available through vendors that linked to this site and sell for an average of $325. There some vendors that offer refurbished Elura camcorders at around $295. If you need one right away, BestBuy is a good bet. I paid $335 at BestBuy 6-months ago which is still considered a Good deal. The Elura's list price is around $400.
I hope this info will give you a better perspective of choosing the right camcorder.
Happy shopping!
Piero Foto
DiH7979 (03/03/2007)
Thank you SO much! Now I understand the difference between the 3 types of recorders and the DV tape absolutely sounds like the best one for me! I had no clue before. The price is within my range also. You really went into alot of detail and explained it so I could understand it. You even mentioned about transfereing old 8mm tapes which I have from long ago!. I still have a Sony Handycam CCD TR6 but can't find my charger! (15 yrs old) I guess it's time for me to upgrade! Thank you so much for your reply!
Diane
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Diane
Piero Foto (03/03/2007)
You are very welcomed, Diane.
If you can borrow, steal or rent an 8mm tape camcorder for a few days, or look on ebay for a Sony ac adapter, or just buy the whole 8mm camera for less than $40, then that's all it would take to playback your old 8mm video footage and transfer it through the Elura to digital. You can either transfer it to your computer or on to mini DV(Digital Video) tape. I would suggest to transfer one 8mm tape at time on your computer, then burn a DVD copy, then keep a few important scenes from each 8mm tape on your computer and then trash the unwanted footage. After you have completed all your 8mm tapes in the same way, you will have all of the best scenes remaining from each 8mm tape on your computer. Now you can create an edited movie with special effects, tittles, and music with the best of the best 8mm footage. Video takes up allot of hard drive space so you don't need to store all the 8mm footage on your computer.
In conclusion:
You will have all your original 8mm video footage on DVD and still remaining on 8mm tape, all the best scenes from 8mm tape remaining on the computer, and the best of best edited version on computer and DVD. You are fully covered from every angle.
Make sure that the your 8mm camcorder is powered by AC when transferring, so that the power is stable and consistent, do not use batteries beccause they will probably die on you in a middle of a transfer. Not a good thing!
Happy shopping and good luck!
Piero Foto
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If you can borrow, steal or rent an 8mm tape camcorder for a few days, or look on ebay for a Sony ac adapter, or just buy the whole 8mm camera for less than $40, then that's all it would take to playback your old 8mm video footage and transfer it through the Elura to digital. You can either transfer it to your computer or on to mini DV(Digital Video) tape. I would suggest to transfer one 8mm tape at time on your computer, then burn a DVD copy, then keep a few important scenes from each 8mm tape on your computer and then trash the unwanted footage. After you have completed all your 8mm tapes in the same way, you will have all of the best scenes remaining from each 8mm tape on your computer. Now you can create an edited movie with special effects, tittles, and music with the best of the best 8mm footage. Video takes up allot of hard drive space so you don't need to store all the 8mm footage on your computer.
In conclusion:
You will have all your original 8mm video footage on DVD and still remaining on 8mm tape, all the best scenes from 8mm tape remaining on the computer, and the best of best edited version on computer and DVD. You are fully covered from every angle.
Make sure that the your 8mm camcorder is powered by AC when transferring, so that the power is stable and consistent, do not use batteries beccause they will probably die on you in a middle of a transfer. Not a good thing!
Happy shopping and good luck!
Piero Foto
DiH7979 (03/03/2007)
Thanks again!
Diane
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Diane
Piero Foto (04/09/2007)
Hey Diane.
If you are finding your videos hard to shoot steady for action sports, then this is what I recomend. Either a Steadicam Jr. or even better is the SteadyOrb. Having the ability to record a more seamless and balanced image free of camera shake will make your sports videos even more enjoyable and increase your range beyond the optical range of your camera lens.
froogle.google.com/froogle?...
Sample videos also on this link.
steadyorb.com/
The cheapest system is a monopod if your are video taping from one spot. It will be more stable than free hand shooting.
A monopod is great for hand held shooting, it gives you a much more stable shot than free hand shooting. You can use a monopod while sitting or standing, its better than trying to lean against the wall, or leaning on a rail or table, its perfect for long shooting events. A monopod is very portable like a telescopic cane.
If you use a telephoto conversion lens, then you must use a tripod or monopod. The image stabilization is only going help so much for extreme zooming. Without a tripod or monopod when you are zoomed in at more than 20x optical, you get results like you are swaying at sea with the waves.
Monopods:
amazon.com/b?ie=UTF8&no...
fullcompass.com/brand/BOG/C...
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If you are finding your videos hard to shoot steady for action sports, then this is what I recomend. Either a Steadicam Jr. or even better is the SteadyOrb. Having the ability to record a more seamless and balanced image free of camera shake will make your sports videos even more enjoyable and increase your range beyond the optical range of your camera lens.
froogle.google.com/froogle?...
Sample videos also on this link.
steadyorb.com/
The cheapest system is a monopod if your are video taping from one spot. It will be more stable than free hand shooting.
A monopod is great for hand held shooting, it gives you a much more stable shot than free hand shooting. You can use a monopod while sitting or standing, its better than trying to lean against the wall, or leaning on a rail or table, its perfect for long shooting events. A monopod is very portable like a telescopic cane.
If you use a telephoto conversion lens, then you must use a tripod or monopod. The image stabilization is only going help so much for extreme zooming. Without a tripod or monopod when you are zoomed in at more than 20x optical, you get results like you are swaying at sea with the waves.
Monopods:
amazon.com/b?ie=UTF8&no...
fullcompass.com/brand/BOG/C...
by James DeRuvo (04/10/2007)
Gee, where'd you get that from, Piero? ;D
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would the Sony DCR-HC38 be a good choice for a first time buyer? (chipper — 03/05/2007)
I want a camcorder that is very very simple to operate
and download to my pc and burn to dvd.
I want to be able to record at a distance and in the
evening hours. Have never used a camcorder before.
Will I need some kind of extra software to do this?
My pc has a dvd burner. If the sony mentioned above is
not a good choice, what would you suggest?
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and download to my pc and burn to dvd.
I want to be able to record at a distance and in the
evening hours. Have never used a camcorder before.
Will I need some kind of extra software to do this?
My pc has a dvd burner. If the sony mentioned above is
not a good choice, what would you suggest?
by James DeRuvo (03/08/2007)
I'm not a huge fan of Sony these days. Sony forces you into a proprietary hardware configurations which require you to purchase only their accessories (like memory stick pro) which are slower and more expensive. Some people like them, but I like options. And LOTS of them.
That's why I like Canon. Much easier to use, very compatible with both PC and MAC. TI'm a big fan of Canon ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). Particularly the Canon Elura ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). It has widescreen ability, image stabilization, recording in Dolby, and a nifty little feature called analog to digital pass through, which enables you to take those home movies you have on VHS and capture them onto your PC by daisy chaining your VCR through the camera and into the PC via firewire. Then you can edit and burn to DVD as well. Great feature.
Some will argue that due to the design, that the Elura can record noise from it's mechanisms being so close to the microphone. My research suggests that this may or may not be a design flaw as many just don't get the noise issue on their videos while some complain they do. I'm not convinced it's a design wide issue and may be due to faulty individual units that need to be repaired or replaced. Still, it's a good solid camera and there are great prices on the link above.
A newer model would be the ZR700 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) or ZR800.
That's where I'd be looking.
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That's why I like Canon. Much easier to use, very compatible with both PC and MAC. TI'm a big fan of Canon ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). Particularly the Canon Elura ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). It has widescreen ability, image stabilization, recording in Dolby, and a nifty little feature called analog to digital pass through, which enables you to take those home movies you have on VHS and capture them onto your PC by daisy chaining your VCR through the camera and into the PC via firewire. Then you can edit and burn to DVD as well. Great feature.
Some will argue that due to the design, that the Elura can record noise from it's mechanisms being so close to the microphone. My research suggests that this may or may not be a design flaw as many just don't get the noise issue on their videos while some complain they do. I'm not convinced it's a design wide issue and may be due to faulty individual units that need to be repaired or replaced. Still, it's a good solid camera and there are great prices on the link above.
A newer model would be the ZR700 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) or ZR800.
That's where I'd be looking.
by James DeRuvo (03/15/2007)
FYI - Word on the street is that the Elura may be dropped from the line. It is still on Canon's website, and you can probably still get it, but it's only a matter of time before it's discontinued in favor of newer, upgraded models.
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Is there a better option one step up from the 100? (ambrily73 — 03/11/2007)
I like that the Elura has a mic jack and analog inputs and that, from my understanding, it is easy to edit your video, but I felt after trying it at a local store it seemed cluttered on the back and kind of hard to manipulate. The salesman also stated I would need to buy an extra battery. If I spent a little more money is there a MiniDV camera that maintains these quality features (editting, mic jack, analog input) and moves me into a camcorder worth the extra $$ (higher still resolution, 3CCD or other valuable feature) Thanks in advance for your help. I think I have over thunk this one and have managed to confuse myself with excessive reseach!
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Piero Foto (03/12/2007)
Hi, Angie.
With you considering the Elura 100, I can see you have done your homework. If you want to step up to another camcorder and get the equivalent or more versatility, features, and functions than the Elura, I would suggest the Panasonic GS500 mini DV Camcorder. The GS500 comes with 3-CCD chip technology that will produce a more refined picture quality over single CCD camcorders.
Both camcorders have external mic option, i-Link, USB and Firewire connections, and manual controls to suit your shooting needs, but the GS500 gives you extra TV outputs of S-Video and composite video outputs in case you want to use them. Both camcorders use mini DV tapes which works great with editing software. The Elura 100 with out using the built in video light is much more efficient with battery life than the GS500, but I would recommend extra batteries with any camcorder. For indoor shooting with a camcorder running on AC power it won't matter.
I am not sure with the GS500, but the Elura100 does come with a remote control for playback and remote record selections. The Elura 100 is also more efficient with hard drive space than higher quality 3-CCD camcorders. The higher the quality the more digital data is packed in the recording. So, you need to consider that with the Elura 100 at high quality mode you need about 12.6 GB of hard drive space for a 60 minute video tape transfer which could easily double in size when editing. The GS500 with 3-CCD's will require even more hard drive space. The Elura's 20x optical zoom has both a longer telephoto focal length and a wider focal length over the GS500 12x optical zoom lens.
I have been using my Elura 100 on my Mac Pro laptop and it works like a charm. Remember that firewire cables do not normally come with camcorders. The Elura 100 as some others use a 4-6 pin (1394)firewire cable which can be bought locally, the GS500 may require a special firewire cable. I have run a number of tests with my Elura and I am very very content with it. The still photo feature works absolutely flawless when snapping photos during video taping "no glitches". The GS500 should also offer this feature, but with even higher resolution still photos.
Bottom line:
If money is not an issue, then for around double the price of the Elura go for the Panasonic GS500, but for a great lower price I recommend the Canon Elura 100 which offers big performance for the money. If you are wondering why the big jump in price just to step up a notch in camcorders and why I have not suggested a camcorder priced closer to the Elura, that's because the Elura offers so much for the money you have to take a big leap in price just to get a camcorder to be comparable with the Elura's overall features and performance. The Elura 100 is a "steal". The mini DV camcorders around the $450-$600 range do have some nice features, but those models seem to fall a Little short for the advanced videographer, its ok if you mainly want a high quality point-and-shoot camcorder. I personally tested three similar priced camcorders within a few days before deciding that the Elura 100 just simply stood alone in its price range, and in fact the Elura 100 does stand alone because it dominated and eliminated the rest of the Elura camcorder line.
I want to add one more important thing about the Elura 100. The Elura 100 was designed to be mainly a one handed camcorder, all your functions, joystick and features are controlled and activated with your thumb and index finger, this is a great deign and very important feature for when shooting while you are driving or engaged in sports, like skiing, or if your other hand is occupied by carrying things, like camera bag, beach stuff, and etc. I know you have mentioned that this seemed to be cluttered for you, but even with my hands being above average size I do not have any difficulties with operating the functions that are mainly located in one area. This design also makes it easier to memorize the controls and you do not have to have the LCD screen door open to get to some functions.
I hope that this info has answered your question.
Happy Shopping and good Luck!
Piero Foto
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With you considering the Elura 100, I can see you have done your homework. If you want to step up to another camcorder and get the equivalent or more versatility, features, and functions than the Elura, I would suggest the Panasonic GS500 mini DV Camcorder. The GS500 comes with 3-CCD chip technology that will produce a more refined picture quality over single CCD camcorders.
Both camcorders have external mic option, i-Link, USB and Firewire connections, and manual controls to suit your shooting needs, but the GS500 gives you extra TV outputs of S-Video and composite video outputs in case you want to use them. Both camcorders use mini DV tapes which works great with editing software. The Elura 100 with out using the built in video light is much more efficient with battery life than the GS500, but I would recommend extra batteries with any camcorder. For indoor shooting with a camcorder running on AC power it won't matter.
I am not sure with the GS500, but the Elura100 does come with a remote control for playback and remote record selections. The Elura 100 is also more efficient with hard drive space than higher quality 3-CCD camcorders. The higher the quality the more digital data is packed in the recording. So, you need to consider that with the Elura 100 at high quality mode you need about 12.6 GB of hard drive space for a 60 minute video tape transfer which could easily double in size when editing. The GS500 with 3-CCD's will require even more hard drive space. The Elura's 20x optical zoom has both a longer telephoto focal length and a wider focal length over the GS500 12x optical zoom lens.
I have been using my Elura 100 on my Mac Pro laptop and it works like a charm. Remember that firewire cables do not normally come with camcorders. The Elura 100 as some others use a 4-6 pin (1394)firewire cable which can be bought locally, the GS500 may require a special firewire cable. I have run a number of tests with my Elura and I am very very content with it. The still photo feature works absolutely flawless when snapping photos during video taping "no glitches". The GS500 should also offer this feature, but with even higher resolution still photos.
Bottom line:
If money is not an issue, then for around double the price of the Elura go for the Panasonic GS500, but for a great lower price I recommend the Canon Elura 100 which offers big performance for the money. If you are wondering why the big jump in price just to step up a notch in camcorders and why I have not suggested a camcorder priced closer to the Elura, that's because the Elura offers so much for the money you have to take a big leap in price just to get a camcorder to be comparable with the Elura's overall features and performance. The Elura 100 is a "steal". The mini DV camcorders around the $450-$600 range do have some nice features, but those models seem to fall a Little short for the advanced videographer, its ok if you mainly want a high quality point-and-shoot camcorder. I personally tested three similar priced camcorders within a few days before deciding that the Elura 100 just simply stood alone in its price range, and in fact the Elura 100 does stand alone because it dominated and eliminated the rest of the Elura camcorder line.
I want to add one more important thing about the Elura 100. The Elura 100 was designed to be mainly a one handed camcorder, all your functions, joystick and features are controlled and activated with your thumb and index finger, this is a great deign and very important feature for when shooting while you are driving or engaged in sports, like skiing, or if your other hand is occupied by carrying things, like camera bag, beach stuff, and etc. I know you have mentioned that this seemed to be cluttered for you, but even with my hands being above average size I do not have any difficulties with operating the functions that are mainly located in one area. This design also makes it easier to memorize the controls and you do not have to have the LCD screen door open to get to some functions.
I hope that this info has answered your question.
Happy Shopping and good Luck!
Piero Foto
ambrily73 (03/12/2007)
Hey Piero Foto
Thanks so much for your response. After receiving it I immediately went to purchase the Elura 100 and unfortunately found that it has become EXTREMELY difficult to get. Seems it has been discontinued!!! I am sooo bummed. I saw it on overstock a few days ago at a nice price and now there are only refurbished models and the price has gone up! What do you think? Should I just wait for the next gen model Canon puts out there?
Much appreciation-
Ang
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Thanks so much for your response. After receiving it I immediately went to purchase the Elura 100 and unfortunately found that it has become EXTREMELY difficult to get. Seems it has been discontinued!!! I am sooo bummed. I saw it on overstock a few days ago at a nice price and now there are only refurbished models and the price has gone up! What do you think? Should I just wait for the next gen model Canon puts out there?
Much appreciation-
Ang
Piero Foto (03/12/2007)
Hi again, Angie.
Sorry to hear the Elura news. I have not heard about any discontinuation of the Elura or a replacement for it, but it does not surprise me because the Elura was probably hurting the sales of the new ZR camcorder line.
Keep hunting, there has to be one out there with your name on it. If you find one, don't be concerned with paying a higher price, just get your hands on one. The Elura list price is $400, worth every penny.
Good luck!
Piero Foto
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Sorry to hear the Elura news. I have not heard about any discontinuation of the Elura or a replacement for it, but it does not surprise me because the Elura was probably hurting the sales of the new ZR camcorder line.
Keep hunting, there has to be one out there with your name on it. If you find one, don't be concerned with paying a higher price, just get your hands on one. The Elura list price is $400, worth every penny.
Good luck!
Piero Foto
ambrily73 (03/12/2007)
so if I found a new one for $449 plus $24.95 shipping I should get it?
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Piero Foto (03/12/2007)
Hi, once more.
Well, if the only one you can get your hands on is around $450, I would say that for same price I don't think your going to find a camcorder with the same all around Elura performance. So, to know for sure, surf the internet for camcorders around $450 and see what you get. If the Elura is still the best option for you, then $450 is still well worth it.
Try and see if BestBuy has one in inventory at another location somewhere in the USA and try placing a purchase hold and delivery order.
Good Luck!
Piero Foto
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Well, if the only one you can get your hands on is around $450, I would say that for same price I don't think your going to find a camcorder with the same all around Elura performance. So, to know for sure, surf the internet for camcorders around $450 and see what you get. If the Elura is still the best option for you, then $450 is still well worth it.
Try and see if BestBuy has one in inventory at another location somewhere in the USA and try placing a purchase hold and delivery order.
Good Luck!
Piero Foto
Piero Foto (03/12/2007)
Hi, once more Angie.
Try going directly on any website of super store chains like BestBuy, Comp USA, Circuit City, and etc. You might be able to get one through their site on line.
Again, Good Luck!
Piero Foto
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Try going directly on any website of super store chains like BestBuy, Comp USA, Circuit City, and etc. You might be able to get one through their site on line.
Again, Good Luck!
Piero Foto
ambrily73 (03/12/2007)
Tryed those, no go, everyone is out. Even called a friend who works pretty high up at Comp USA. NOPE! I'll keep searching! THANK YOU so much for your time, I read many of your replies to others and you are helping alot of people. Losts of Karma your way :)
Ang
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Ang
Piero Foto (03/12/2007)
Its time to consider a refurbished camcorder. Refurbished camcorders are just as good as new and should still come with a warranty. Refurbished means returns, but not necessarily something was wrong with them. Returns can some times mean that some one changed their minds and just opened the package, or there was a small scratch on the camcorder body, or maybe there was a loose button, or maybe something was missing. Once the package has been openend, it can't be sold as new, so they correct any minor problems and repackage it for refurbished. If their is anything majorly wrong with a returned camcorder, its trashed.
I bought a refurbished digital nikon a few years ago, I still have it and it just wont die.
Piero Foto
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I bought a refurbished digital nikon a few years ago, I still have it and it just wont die.
Piero Foto
ambrily73 (03/12/2007)
I found one! A service guy at office depot told me that Canon had them pulled off the shelf and to search froogle and find a small mom and pop camera store. I found one in NY that was selling a Elura 100 camcorder kit. I got the camera PLUS an extra battery, mini tripod, lense cleaners and other random stuff for $402 plus $20 shipping!!! After that I searched for "canon Elura 100 kit" and found several available for around $400. So for those looking that seems to be the loop hole. The "kit" is where it's at!!! Again, thank you for your help and continued support. If I had anymore points I would gladly give them all to you!
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Piero Foto (03/13/2007)
That's great and I am glad to see a happy Elura owner.
Well now its getting more interesting that you have found out about Canon pulling the Elura 100 off the retail shelves. About two weeks ago I contacted Canon headquarters and acknowledged them with a common issue with the Elura 100. Now I am wondering if their final decision was based on my complaint of an engineering design issue with the Elura's built in condenser mic.
I am sure you have come across some reviews that might have mentioned a "Motor Noise" problem with the Elura. Anyway, don't be too concerned about it, You still made a very good choice.
The Elura 100 has a mic issue that consumers are referring to it as "Motor Noise". Actually nothing is wrong with any of the cam motors or the zoom motor. They do not hear this noise during recording, but some do hear it on playback. This so called "Motor Noise" does exist and its there on some Elura's, but on a good percentage of the Elura 100 camcorders it happens to be very faint and not noticeable. This "Motor Noise" is noticeable when recording in quite environments where there are no audio sounds present or audio sounds loud enough to over power this "Motor Noise". This "Motor Noise" when heard on playback, it sounds like a consistent type of mic feed back noise, or humming and buzzing type sound. Once you pick up noticeable ambient or other actual strong audio sounds of people talking, birds chirping, street traffic, and etc., the noise is gone.
I will say it again, don't be too concerned about it, You made a very good choice. In general every camcorders built in condenser mic simply sucks anyway and produces a real cheap sound. Built in condenser mics has always been like that on any digital device with a mic feature.
Solution: Do what pros do, get yourself a nice mini shotgun mic that will give you a great improved sound quality, you have an external mic option now, put to good use. Make sure to use your external mic in 16bit mode for high quality. Sima sells a mini shotgun mic(MZM-1) for consumer camcorders for around $40, I picked one up from BestBuy it works great. It has a zoom, normal and an off switch, it is powered by one AAA battery. The external mic will make a huge difference on your audio entertainment system especially when recording, concerts, live stage performances, wildlife, fire works, and any distant sounds.
Keep in mind that an external mic should never be mounted directly on the camcorder, so do not be concerned that the Elura has no shoe mount on the camera, it was intended that way for that specific reason. To mount your external mic or an external light when needed, just get a camcorder accessory cold shoe mount bracket, they cost with in $20. I got mine at Beach Audio, this is a good bracket, it has two cold shoe mounts, a hand grip and its also designed to not interfere with your LCD screen when opened. The hand grip will give you some extra handling control.
These are some of the problems you would encounter if using a camcorder shoe mount.
1) If an external microphone is mounted directly on the camcorder, you are going to record allot of unwanted sounds and nosies like your hands fumbling around the controls and even picking up sounds from the camcorder motors. The mic needs to be mounted at least 6 inches away from the camcorder.
2) If an external video light is mount directly on the camcorder, you are increasing your chances of getting the red eye effect because the light is to close in alignment with the lens and if you are using conversion lenses with the video light mounted on the camcorder, you will also get shadows caused by the protruding lens that blocks some of the light source. The video light also needs to mounted at least 6-8 inches away from camcorder, this will result in better contrast as well as reducing blow outs from glare.
So in conclusion, The external mic option is big bonus and if the Elura had a shoe mount you would probably not be using it anyway.
I know I have extended myself with advice to you, but I want you to get the best results.
Signing off!
Piero Foto
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Well now its getting more interesting that you have found out about Canon pulling the Elura 100 off the retail shelves. About two weeks ago I contacted Canon headquarters and acknowledged them with a common issue with the Elura 100. Now I am wondering if their final decision was based on my complaint of an engineering design issue with the Elura's built in condenser mic.
I am sure you have come across some reviews that might have mentioned a "Motor Noise" problem with the Elura. Anyway, don't be too concerned about it, You still made a very good choice.
The Elura 100 has a mic issue that consumers are referring to it as "Motor Noise". Actually nothing is wrong with any of the cam motors or the zoom motor. They do not hear this noise during recording, but some do hear it on playback. This so called "Motor Noise" does exist and its there on some Elura's, but on a good percentage of the Elura 100 camcorders it happens to be very faint and not noticeable. This "Motor Noise" is noticeable when recording in quite environments where there are no audio sounds present or audio sounds loud enough to over power this "Motor Noise". This "Motor Noise" when heard on playback, it sounds like a consistent type of mic feed back noise, or humming and buzzing type sound. Once you pick up noticeable ambient or other actual strong audio sounds of people talking, birds chirping, street traffic, and etc., the noise is gone.
I will say it again, don't be too concerned about it, You made a very good choice. In general every camcorders built in condenser mic simply sucks anyway and produces a real cheap sound. Built in condenser mics has always been like that on any digital device with a mic feature.
Solution: Do what pros do, get yourself a nice mini shotgun mic that will give you a great improved sound quality, you have an external mic option now, put to good use. Make sure to use your external mic in 16bit mode for high quality. Sima sells a mini shotgun mic(MZM-1) for consumer camcorders for around $40, I picked one up from BestBuy it works great. It has a zoom, normal and an off switch, it is powered by one AAA battery. The external mic will make a huge difference on your audio entertainment system especially when recording, concerts, live stage performances, wildlife, fire works, and any distant sounds.
Keep in mind that an external mic should never be mounted directly on the camcorder, so do not be concerned that the Elura has no shoe mount on the camera, it was intended that way for that specific reason. To mount your external mic or an external light when needed, just get a camcorder accessory cold shoe mount bracket, they cost with in $20. I got mine at Beach Audio, this is a good bracket, it has two cold shoe mounts, a hand grip and its also designed to not interfere with your LCD screen when opened. The hand grip will give you some extra handling control.
These are some of the problems you would encounter if using a camcorder shoe mount.
1) If an external microphone is mounted directly on the camcorder, you are going to record allot of unwanted sounds and nosies like your hands fumbling around the controls and even picking up sounds from the camcorder motors. The mic needs to be mounted at least 6 inches away from the camcorder.
2) If an external video light is mount directly on the camcorder, you are increasing your chances of getting the red eye effect because the light is to close in alignment with the lens and if you are using conversion lenses with the video light mounted on the camcorder, you will also get shadows caused by the protruding lens that blocks some of the light source. The video light also needs to mounted at least 6-8 inches away from camcorder, this will result in better contrast as well as reducing blow outs from glare.
So in conclusion, The external mic option is big bonus and if the Elura had a shoe mount you would probably not be using it anyway.
I know I have extended myself with advice to you, but I want you to get the best results.
Signing off!
Piero Foto
ambrily73 (03/13/2007)
You are awesome! I appreciate you extending yourself to my benefit as I'm sure are others. I am new to the editing and creating aspect of filming so I'm lovin' the low down.
I am hoping to film the massage classes I teach for distance courses, but first, I have a lot of learning to do myself. So thanks for the lesson! I also read that whole 1/16 of an inch dialog as well, what a GEM.
I don't know about any behind the scene action, but the guy told me that sometimes companies will send out a memo stating a product is discontinued and to send the remaining back.
He didn't say he knew that was what happened in this case, but considering there were plenty available a couple of days ago and now there aren't any, it seems like a plausible conclusion.
I was wondering if you have purchased any of the lenses or filters and what you thought? Any tips? They seem pretty reasonably priced for the upgraded options. In my search I found quiet a few on sale.
Thanks again for all tips!
Angie
www.InteGreatMe.com
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I am hoping to film the massage classes I teach for distance courses, but first, I have a lot of learning to do myself. So thanks for the lesson! I also read that whole 1/16 of an inch dialog as well, what a GEM.
I don't know about any behind the scene action, but the guy told me that sometimes companies will send out a memo stating a product is discontinued and to send the remaining back.
He didn't say he knew that was what happened in this case, but considering there were plenty available a couple of days ago and now there aren't any, it seems like a plausible conclusion.
I was wondering if you have purchased any of the lenses or filters and what you thought? Any tips? They seem pretty reasonably priced for the upgraded options. In my search I found quiet a few on sale.
Thanks again for all tips!
Angie
www.InteGreatMe.com
Piero Foto (03/13/2007)
Now you are pushing the outer limits into the twilight zone, Angie.
All lenses are designed to work best on their own without any type of optical modifications. Built in lenses will work in combination with conversion lenses, but the original optical quality will be degraded to some minor degree. If Canon makes dedicated conversion lenses for their own specific camcorder lens like the Elura, then that would be the best you can get. It will cost allot more, but you will have a properly matched optical elements.
With third party conversion lenses the optical results will not be the the sharpest around the edges of your picture frame with wider apertures and then you usually encounter problems at the other end of the zoom scale with unmatched optical angles. Third party conversion lenses are designed for the average optical specifications, because it needs to work with the average camcorder. It works on every camcorder, but not perfectly for every camcorder. That's why they usually cost a fraction of the price.
I have bought third party conversion lenses before and they really work best for bright outdoors when the depth of field is increased to give you sharper results. The wide angle conversion lenses has more leaway and can give better results in lower lighting conditions for indoor use than the telephoto focal lengths. Additional lenses are always good to have on hand, but I would only use them when they have to be used, because the Elura factory lens works really great on its own for sharpness and overall quality. When you conduct your own tests with the specific brand you buy, you can determine for yourself how good they are and when they should used. All third party conversion lenses are basically comparable. Keep in mind that you will more than likely will need an adapter stepping ring to properly thread the conversion lens to the existing Elura lens, unless the conversion lens is the same mm diameter
Happy Shopping!
Piero Foto
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All lenses are designed to work best on their own without any type of optical modifications. Built in lenses will work in combination with conversion lenses, but the original optical quality will be degraded to some minor degree. If Canon makes dedicated conversion lenses for their own specific camcorder lens like the Elura, then that would be the best you can get. It will cost allot more, but you will have a properly matched optical elements.
With third party conversion lenses the optical results will not be the the sharpest around the edges of your picture frame with wider apertures and then you usually encounter problems at the other end of the zoom scale with unmatched optical angles. Third party conversion lenses are designed for the average optical specifications, because it needs to work with the average camcorder. It works on every camcorder, but not perfectly for every camcorder. That's why they usually cost a fraction of the price.
I have bought third party conversion lenses before and they really work best for bright outdoors when the depth of field is increased to give you sharper results. The wide angle conversion lenses has more leaway and can give better results in lower lighting conditions for indoor use than the telephoto focal lengths. Additional lenses are always good to have on hand, but I would only use them when they have to be used, because the Elura factory lens works really great on its own for sharpness and overall quality. When you conduct your own tests with the specific brand you buy, you can determine for yourself how good they are and when they should used. All third party conversion lenses are basically comparable. Keep in mind that you will more than likely will need an adapter stepping ring to properly thread the conversion lens to the existing Elura lens, unless the conversion lens is the same mm diameter
Happy Shopping!
Piero Foto
Piero Foto (03/14/2007)
One more thing, Angie.
The Elura comes with intergraded lens cover, I love it and it eliminates the dangling lens cap. Make it a habit of closing the lens cover when you are not recording to protect the lens. I would suggest a UV lens filter for for the Elura to protect the lens. Its cheaper to buy a UV filter if it scratches than buying a new lens which could cost at least half the price of the camcorder.
For best lens performace I don't like using any additional protective filters in font of my camera lens, But I do use one in risky conditions like the beach for the sand or the slopes for the snow just on a rainy in general.
You can thank me once more, then you will need to start a new question if you need other advice!
Later, and Good Luck!
Piero Foto
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The Elura comes with intergraded lens cover, I love it and it eliminates the dangling lens cap. Make it a habit of closing the lens cover when you are not recording to protect the lens. I would suggest a UV lens filter for for the Elura to protect the lens. Its cheaper to buy a UV filter if it scratches than buying a new lens which could cost at least half the price of the camcorder.
For best lens performace I don't like using any additional protective filters in font of my camera lens, But I do use one in risky conditions like the beach for the sand or the slopes for the snow just on a rainy in general.
You can thank me once more, then you will need to start a new question if you need other advice!
Later, and Good Luck!
Piero Foto
ambrily73 (03/14/2007)
Thank You
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Sandeep (03/18/2007)
Hi Angie,
I'm from india. I too was searching Canon Elura on websites but could get for $449. Could send me the web address of the new New York retail store, the one you bought your Camera.
Thanks in advance.
Sandeep
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I'm from india. I too was searching Canon Elura on websites but could get for $449. Could send me the web address of the new New York retail store, the one you bought your Camera.
Thanks in advance.
Sandeep
Piero Foto (03/18/2007)
Hello, Sandeep.
Post a question to find the Elura 100 and I will find one for you.
I will watch out for your question.
Piero Foto
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Post a question to find the Elura 100 and I will find one for you.
I will watch out for your question.
Piero Foto
Penzihues (04/01/2007)
Piero,
I need a camcorder by Friday! Since the Elura is out of Stock, what is the next best thing at that price range.
Thanks!
Suzie
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I need a camcorder by Friday! Since the Elura is out of Stock, what is the next best thing at that price range.
Thanks!
Suzie
Piero Foto (04/01/2007)
Hi, Suzie.
Post your question in the question box above at top of page where is says "Have a question about the 100?", in the mean time I will research the best choice for you.
I will keep a look out for your question.
Thanks!
Piero Foto
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Post your question in the question box above at top of page where is says "Have a question about the 100?", in the mean time I will research the best choice for you.
I will keep a look out for your question.
Thanks!
Piero Foto
Piero Foto (04/01/2007)
Hey Suzie.
I gave you a point for your question if you need it.
I will respond soon when your question is posted. I have a couple of good choices for you so far.
Thanks!
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I gave you a point for your question if you need it.
I will respond soon when your question is posted. I have a couple of good choices for you so far.
Thanks!
Does it have an assecory shoe? (doid100 — 03/13/2007)
Hey,
I am wondering if this camcorders has a accessory show for an external mic, light ext... Also does it have (if not an accessory shoe) a mic input/ sound out put ports on it.
Also do most of these camcorders have the loud humming noises that every one is complaining about?
Thanks for the help!
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I am wondering if this camcorders has a accessory show for an external mic, light ext... Also does it have (if not an accessory shoe) a mic input/ sound out put ports on it.
Also do most of these camcorders have the loud humming noises that every one is complaining about?
Thanks for the help!
Piero Foto (03/14/2007)
Hey!, Fillip.
The Elura 100 cannot be touched by any camcorder with overall features and performace by almost any any model camcorder under $600-$700. When I first mentioned it to you, the Elura was as low as $295, now you will be lucky if you can even find one for even around $450 and its getting tougher by the minute.
If you want a good reliable quality and the simplicity of a point and shoot camcorder for easy training, but still have the options for creative shooting, or the advanced ability to adjust your controls to get even better results when shooting specific situations like your sports, and etc. Then I am highly recommending the Canon Elura 100. The Elura 100 is the great all around mainstream camcorder on the market that delivers big performance for the money. The Elura has an impressive picture quality, 20x zoom, true wide screen recording and is very veratile for just about any type shooting style. Its also action packed with features and is truly a camcorder that you will not grow out of for a while. The Elura can be used by beginners to the advanced videographers.
The Elura 100 is a great choice for movie editing on MAC or PC. It uses mini DV tapes a preferred choice by professionals because tapes does do not compress the video data information which in turn produces the best quality for video transfers to DVD and works like a charm with movie editing software.
The Elura 100 is one of a rare few DV camcorders that comes with an external mic option, this is a great feature for dramatically improving audio sound like at sporting events, concerts, airshows, and etc. Built in condenser mics generally do to not good produce good quality on any camcorder. The Elura 100 can also be used with a wireless mic system, and can easily record audio sound from a distance of two fullball fields. Plus, the audio dubbing feature can also allow you to add voice over and narrate your video footage from an external mic or an audio device without a computer. The Analog to Digital pass through offers you the feature of transferring your analog VHS/Video 8 tape collection to DVD. This gives the option to update or add older video footage to DVD. It also has an A/V port for input out transfers.
As you have already come across the reviews of a "Motor Noise" problem with the Elura. Don't be too concerned about it, You will still be making a very good choice, that's if you can still get a hold of one. The prices on the Elura are increasing like the stock market as they get harder to find.
The Elura 100 has a mic issue that consumers are referring to it as "Motor Noise". Actually nothing is wrong with any of the cam motors or the zoom motor. They do not hear this noise during recording, but some do hear it on playback. This so called "Motor Noise" does exist and its there on some Elura's, but on a good percentage of the Elura 100 camcorders it happens to be very faint and not noticeable. This "Motor Noise" is noticeable when recording in quite environments where there are no audio sounds present or audio sounds loud enough to over power this "Motor Noise". This "Motor Noise" when heard on playback, it sounds like a consistent type of mic feed back noise, or humming and buzzing type sound. Once you pick up noticeable ambient or other actual strong audio sounds of people talking, birds chirping, street traffic, and etc., the noise is gone.
I will say it again, don't be too concerned about it, The Elura is very good choice. In general every camcorders built in condenser mic simply sucks anyway and produces a real cheap sound. Built in condenser mics has always been like that on any digital device with a mic feature.
Solution: Do what pros do, get yourself a nice mini shotgun mic that will give you a great improved sound quality, you have an external mic option now, put to good use. Make sure to use your external mic in 16bit mode for high quality. Sima sells a mini shotgun mic(MZM-1) for consumer camcorders for around $40, I picked one up from BestBuy it works great. It has a zoom, normal and an off switch, it is powered by one AAA battery. The external mic will make a huge difference on your audio entertainment system especially when recording, concerts, live stage performances, wildlife, fire works, and any distant sounds.
Keep in mind that an external mic should never be mounted directly on the camcorder, so do not be concerned that the Elura has no shoe mount on the camera, it was intended that way for that specific reason. To mount your external mic or an external light when needed, just get a camcorder accessory cold shoe mount bracket, they cost with in $20. I got mine at Beach Audio, this is a good bracket, it has two cold shoe mounts, a hand grip and its also designed to not interfere with your LCD screen when opened. The hand grip will give you some extra handling control.
These are some of the problems you would encounter if using a camcorder shoe mount.
1) If an external microphone is mounted directly on the camcorder, you are going to record allot of unwanted sounds and nosies like your hands fumbling around the controls and even picking up sounds from the camcorder motors. The mic needs to be mounted at least 6 inches away from the camcorder.
2) If an external video light is mount directly on the camcorder, you are increasing your chances of getting the red eye effect because the light is to close in alignment with the lens and if you are using conversion lenses with the video light mounted on the camcorder, you will also get shadows caused by the protruding lens that blocks some of the light source. The video light also needs to mounted at least 6-8 inches away from camcorder, this will result in better contrast as well as reducing blow outs from glare.
So in conclusion, The external mic option is big bonus and if the Elura had a shoe mount you would probably not be using it anyway.
I know I have extended myself with advice to you, but its time to bust a move Fillip. It doesn't seam like you value my opinion as you are not selecting my answers which no one else has really offered.
Once more GOOOOOD LUCK!
Piero Foto
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The Elura 100 cannot be touched by any camcorder with overall features and performace by almost any any model camcorder under $600-$700. When I first mentioned it to you, the Elura was as low as $295, now you will be lucky if you can even find one for even around $450 and its getting tougher by the minute.
If you want a good reliable quality and the simplicity of a point and shoot camcorder for easy training, but still have the options for creative shooting, or the advanced ability to adjust your controls to get even better results when shooting specific situations like your sports, and etc. Then I am highly recommending the Canon Elura 100. The Elura 100 is the great all around mainstream camcorder on the market that delivers big performance for the money. The Elura has an impressive picture quality, 20x zoom, true wide screen recording and is very veratile for just about any type shooting style. Its also action packed with features and is truly a camcorder that you will not grow out of for a while. The Elura can be used by beginners to the advanced videographers.
The Elura 100 is a great choice for movie editing on MAC or PC. It uses mini DV tapes a preferred choice by professionals because tapes does do not compress the video data information which in turn produces the best quality for video transfers to DVD and works like a charm with movie editing software.
The Elura 100 is one of a rare few DV camcorders that comes with an external mic option, this is a great feature for dramatically improving audio sound like at sporting events, concerts, airshows, and etc. Built in condenser mics generally do to not good produce good quality on any camcorder. The Elura 100 can also be used with a wireless mic system, and can easily record audio sound from a distance of two fullball fields. Plus, the audio dubbing feature can also allow you to add voice over and narrate your video footage from an external mic or an audio device without a computer. The Analog to Digital pass through offers you the feature of transferring your analog VHS/Video 8 tape collection to DVD. This gives the option to update or add older video footage to DVD. It also has an A/V port for input out transfers.
As you have already come across the reviews of a "Motor Noise" problem with the Elura. Don't be too concerned about it, You will still be making a very good choice, that's if you can still get a hold of one. The prices on the Elura are increasing like the stock market as they get harder to find.
The Elura 100 has a mic issue that consumers are referring to it as "Motor Noise". Actually nothing is wrong with any of the cam motors or the zoom motor. They do not hear this noise during recording, but some do hear it on playback. This so called "Motor Noise" does exist and its there on some Elura's, but on a good percentage of the Elura 100 camcorders it happens to be very faint and not noticeable. This "Motor Noise" is noticeable when recording in quite environments where there are no audio sounds present or audio sounds loud enough to over power this "Motor Noise". This "Motor Noise" when heard on playback, it sounds like a consistent type of mic feed back noise, or humming and buzzing type sound. Once you pick up noticeable ambient or other actual strong audio sounds of people talking, birds chirping, street traffic, and etc., the noise is gone.
I will say it again, don't be too concerned about it, The Elura is very good choice. In general every camcorders built in condenser mic simply sucks anyway and produces a real cheap sound. Built in condenser mics has always been like that on any digital device with a mic feature.
Solution: Do what pros do, get yourself a nice mini shotgun mic that will give you a great improved sound quality, you have an external mic option now, put to good use. Make sure to use your external mic in 16bit mode for high quality. Sima sells a mini shotgun mic(MZM-1) for consumer camcorders for around $40, I picked one up from BestBuy it works great. It has a zoom, normal and an off switch, it is powered by one AAA battery. The external mic will make a huge difference on your audio entertainment system especially when recording, concerts, live stage performances, wildlife, fire works, and any distant sounds.
Keep in mind that an external mic should never be mounted directly on the camcorder, so do not be concerned that the Elura has no shoe mount on the camera, it was intended that way for that specific reason. To mount your external mic or an external light when needed, just get a camcorder accessory cold shoe mount bracket, they cost with in $20. I got mine at Beach Audio, this is a good bracket, it has two cold shoe mounts, a hand grip and its also designed to not interfere with your LCD screen when opened. The hand grip will give you some extra handling control.
These are some of the problems you would encounter if using a camcorder shoe mount.
1) If an external microphone is mounted directly on the camcorder, you are going to record allot of unwanted sounds and nosies like your hands fumbling around the controls and even picking up sounds from the camcorder motors. The mic needs to be mounted at least 6 inches away from the camcorder.
2) If an external video light is mount directly on the camcorder, you are increasing your chances of getting the red eye effect because the light is to close in alignment with the lens and if you are using conversion lenses with the video light mounted on the camcorder, you will also get shadows caused by the protruding lens that blocks some of the light source. The video light also needs to mounted at least 6-8 inches away from camcorder, this will result in better contrast as well as reducing blow outs from glare.
So in conclusion, The external mic option is big bonus and if the Elura had a shoe mount you would probably not be using it anyway.
I know I have extended myself with advice to you, but its time to bust a move Fillip. It doesn't seam like you value my opinion as you are not selecting my answers which no one else has really offered.
Once more GOOOOOD LUCK!
Piero Foto
JONES JERRY (03/27/2007)
love your reviews
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Piero Foto (03/27/2007)
Thanks!, Jones Jerry.
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Which one to buy - Digital camera or Camcorder (Sandeep — 03/18/2007)
I know Im trying to compare an apple with an elephant. But as the technology is getting better and better each day, and the Gap between the digital cameras and camcorder is getting reduced. (At least, it seems to me that way)
Ok. Now Ill come to the point. I would like to have your expert advice whether I should buy a digital camera or a camcorder. I should know my requirements and I should only decide which one to buy but its too confusing for me. Its the first camera Im buying in my life and I had absolutely no knowledge about the digital world of cameras until last week, I spent hours together in getting the information on the digital cameras and camcorders.
I could drill down my requirement as follows:
(1) Im interested in both; still photography and video recording.
(2) I would like to have good image quality of the still image
(3) I would like to have the video clips of my kid who is expected in April-2007
(4) Good optical zoom more than 6X
(5) External battery charging system
(6) Still photos minimum resolution 2 MP min (Camcorder) & 5 MP min (Digital cameras)
(7) Still pictures taking capability while video recording
(8) Flash while taking still pictures and video recording
(9) Battery Life Minimum 300 shots or 2 hours of video recording
(10) Output port for computer/TV
(11) Input Port for TV record something from TV
(12) Good image quality in night/low light
(13) Basic price should not exceed $350 (I know Ill have to pay extra for accessories)
Nice to have features: (Not the decision maker)
(14) Optical image stabilizer
(15) Optical zoom more than 10 X
(16) Input port for external mic (accessory shoe)
(17) AC power input
(18) Manual focus
Please advice me. Also in case you need to ask me more questions in order to provide your suggestion, please let me know.
Also, please let me know the good models names which can meet my requirement.
Thanks in advance.
Regards,
Sandy
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Ok. Now Ill come to the point. I would like to have your expert advice whether I should buy a digital camera or a camcorder. I should know my requirements and I should only decide which one to buy but its too confusing for me. Its the first camera Im buying in my life and I had absolutely no knowledge about the digital world of cameras until last week, I spent hours together in getting the information on the digital cameras and camcorders.
I could drill down my requirement as follows:
(1) Im interested in both; still photography and video recording.
(2) I would like to have good image quality of the still image
(3) I would like to have the video clips of my kid who is expected in April-2007
(4) Good optical zoom more than 6X
(5) External battery charging system
(6) Still photos minimum resolution 2 MP min (Camcorder) & 5 MP min (Digital cameras)
(7) Still pictures taking capability while video recording
(8) Flash while taking still pictures and video recording
(9) Battery Life Minimum 300 shots or 2 hours of video recording
(10) Output port for computer/TV
(11) Input Port for TV record something from TV
(12) Good image quality in night/low light
(13) Basic price should not exceed $350 (I know Ill have to pay extra for accessories)
Nice to have features: (Not the decision maker)
(14) Optical image stabilizer
(15) Optical zoom more than 10 X
(16) Input port for external mic (accessory shoe)
(17) AC power input
(18) Manual focus
Please advice me. Also in case you need to ask me more questions in order to provide your suggestion, please let me know.
Also, please let me know the good models names which can meet my requirement.
Thanks in advance.
Regards,
Sandy
Piero Foto (03/18/2007)
Hello Sandeep.
Well, Sandeep, with what you are asking you are really in sand deep, but you seem like a great guy. The Elura is undisputed for the amount of features and capabilities for all around performance in your price range. If you have already researched it then you should already know its a great choice.
Here is a link for the Elura 100 before we start another search of camcorder.
newworldvideodirect.com/pro...
Good Luck! We can talk more!
Piero Foto
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Well, Sandeep, with what you are asking you are really in sand deep, but you seem like a great guy. The Elura is undisputed for the amount of features and capabilities for all around performance in your price range. If you have already researched it then you should already know its a great choice.
Here is a link for the Elura 100 before we start another search of camcorder.
newworldvideodirect.com/pro...
Good Luck! We can talk more!
Piero Foto
Piero Foto (03/18/2007)
Hello again, Sandeep.
Now as far as the still photos go, I have done some tests with the Elura 100 and got some impressive results with a 1.3MP, which gives you almost a 4MG file size. I have enlarged a still photo from the Elura to a 18"x22" and looked decent. You have to keep in mind that generally still photos from average camcorders are mainly used for a digital photo library, or emailing, or making regular size prints around 5"x7" and some good ones maybe 8"x10" size. With the Elura if you have a still photo that is perfect in sharpness, depth of field, contrast, brightness, and good overall bright color, then you could enlarge your still photos up around 18"x22" without the pixels breaking apart. the reason is because of Canon's special Digic CCD sensor.
With Canon's DoubleShot technology, you get the best of both video and digital photography. That means the Elura 100 is a MiniDV camcorder that's also a great digital camera. With it's 1.33 Megapixel CCD, you get brilliant digital photographs. Plus, Canon's exclusive DIGIC DV signal processing circuit processes still images differently from video images, ensuring that they're maximized for viewing on computer monitors and as prints.
Plus, a variety of photo features make the Elura 100 a great digital camera:
9 Point Ai-AF
Motor Drive Mode
Progressive Photo
Auto Exposure Bracketing
Simultaneous Photo Recording
Special Scene Modes
Image Effects
9 Point Ai-AF
A feature found on more expensive camcorders, Auto Intelligent Auto Focus ensures sharp images and gives creative flexibility. Even when your subject isn't in the center of the frame, the Elura 100's 9 Point Ai-AF will bring it into sharp focus.
Bottom line, if you are serious about still photos, I would not recommend a video camcorder. You need to buy a digital still camera for truly best results. If you serious of both video and stills, then you need to buy both. If its a budget issue then answer is "The Elura 100"
I hope this can resolve your question and situation.
If you need more free advice, just ask.
Good Luck and Happy Shopping!
Piero Foto
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Now as far as the still photos go, I have done some tests with the Elura 100 and got some impressive results with a 1.3MP, which gives you almost a 4MG file size. I have enlarged a still photo from the Elura to a 18"x22" and looked decent. You have to keep in mind that generally still photos from average camcorders are mainly used for a digital photo library, or emailing, or making regular size prints around 5"x7" and some good ones maybe 8"x10" size. With the Elura if you have a still photo that is perfect in sharpness, depth of field, contrast, brightness, and good overall bright color, then you could enlarge your still photos up around 18"x22" without the pixels breaking apart. the reason is because of Canon's special Digic CCD sensor.
With Canon's DoubleShot technology, you get the best of both video and digital photography. That means the Elura 100 is a MiniDV camcorder that's also a great digital camera. With it's 1.33 Megapixel CCD, you get brilliant digital photographs. Plus, Canon's exclusive DIGIC DV signal processing circuit processes still images differently from video images, ensuring that they're maximized for viewing on computer monitors and as prints.
Plus, a variety of photo features make the Elura 100 a great digital camera:
9 Point Ai-AF
Motor Drive Mode
Progressive Photo
Auto Exposure Bracketing
Simultaneous Photo Recording
Special Scene Modes
Image Effects
9 Point Ai-AF
A feature found on more expensive camcorders, Auto Intelligent Auto Focus ensures sharp images and gives creative flexibility. Even when your subject isn't in the center of the frame, the Elura 100's 9 Point Ai-AF will bring it into sharp focus.
Bottom line, if you are serious about still photos, I would not recommend a video camcorder. You need to buy a digital still camera for truly best results. If you serious of both video and stills, then you need to buy both. If its a budget issue then answer is "The Elura 100"
I hope this can resolve your question and situation.
If you need more free advice, just ask.
Good Luck and Happy Shopping!
Piero Foto
Piero Foto (03/18/2007)
Hi, Sandeep.
Just following up to see if you had any luck, or need more advice, just ask.
Thanks!
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Just following up to see if you had any luck, or need more advice, just ask.
Thanks!
Piero Foto (03/19/2007)
Hey Sandeep.
Try this link for the Elura 100. This link suggests that there is stock, the buy it buttons are still lit for avalability.
smarter.com/canon_elura_100...
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Try this link for the Elura 100. This link suggests that there is stock, the buy it buttons are still lit for avalability.
smarter.com/canon_elura_100...
Sandeep (03/19/2007)
Hi Piero,
What a man you are. Such a great helpful Guy!!
Your detailed replies are really very useful to me. At least, I could drill down to two models; Elura 100 and Canon 3S IS (Digital Camera). (I know you will again laugh.. Still i'm behind digital camera).
Actually I was going thru the digital cameras and got in rendezvous with THE CANON 3S IS. I liked every thing of digital camera in that except the issue of 4 batteries. Im new to camera world but I still feel that two batteries should have done the trip. Anyway, its (4 Batteries) not the great concern.
Could you be generous in replying my following question. I believe that will clear all my doubts. The question is:
If we compare video mode of Canon 3S IS and Elura 100, What more does Elura 100 offer? [Im not much concerned about analog to digital conversion]. Ok to be more specific, could you provide me the comparison of both on following?
(1) Video Quality
(2) Storage of videos Is video quality is better on mini DV than SD card?
(3) Operation cost (Where I need to pay for the operational cost)
(4) Transferring of videos time and ease of transferring the data to computer
(5) Playback of vides on TV or on Computer
(6) File size of video (of same length)
(7) Length of the video (Its not main concern because Ill not be making any vedio movie for more than 15 min)
I know the following pros features Elura 100
(1) Analog to Digital conversion
(2) 20X optical zoom.- Do we need this much of zoom if we are not shooting lets say on mountains? Actually I cant figure out the visual difference between 12X and 20 X optical zoom.
(My this question might sound too stupid) In general, why people go for camcorders when digital cameras can take videos (Im talking about mid range camcorders)
Budget is also a great concern. Can not go for both digital camera and camcorder.
Also, I would like to know where we need to install some software to download the images or videos from camera. Someone today told me in Sony cameras windows XP does the job. No need to install any software.
Have a nice Day
Regards,
Sandy
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What a man you are. Such a great helpful Guy!!
Your detailed replies are really very useful to me. At least, I could drill down to two models; Elura 100 and Canon 3S IS (Digital Camera). (I know you will again laugh.. Still i'm behind digital camera).
Actually I was going thru the digital cameras and got in rendezvous with THE CANON 3S IS. I liked every thing of digital camera in that except the issue of 4 batteries. Im new to camera world but I still feel that two batteries should have done the trip. Anyway, its (4 Batteries) not the great concern.
Could you be generous in replying my following question. I believe that will clear all my doubts. The question is:
If we compare video mode of Canon 3S IS and Elura 100, What more does Elura 100 offer? [Im not much concerned about analog to digital conversion]. Ok to be more specific, could you provide me the comparison of both on following?
(1) Video Quality
(2) Storage of videos Is video quality is better on mini DV than SD card?
(3) Operation cost (Where I need to pay for the operational cost)
(4) Transferring of videos time and ease of transferring the data to computer
(5) Playback of vides on TV or on Computer
(6) File size of video (of same length)
(7) Length of the video (Its not main concern because Ill not be making any vedio movie for more than 15 min)
I know the following pros features Elura 100
(1) Analog to Digital conversion
(2) 20X optical zoom.- Do we need this much of zoom if we are not shooting lets say on mountains? Actually I cant figure out the visual difference between 12X and 20 X optical zoom.
(My this question might sound too stupid) In general, why people go for camcorders when digital cameras can take videos (Im talking about mid range camcorders)
Budget is also a great concern. Can not go for both digital camera and camcorder.
Also, I would like to know where we need to install some software to download the images or videos from camera. Someone today told me in Sony cameras windows XP does the job. No need to install any software.
Have a nice Day
Regards,
Sandy
Piero Foto (03/19/2007)
Hey!, Sandy.
This is the bottom line:
I have personally have always owned more still cameras than video cameras and that goes for most people. The still camera should be always be your first investment over the a camcorder. Camcorders are nice, but if your not a big fan of making movies and would like to take really nice pictures, the still camera is the way to go.
On an professional level here is the truth:
Still Camera:
1) The picture quality is great on a still camera, but the movies are short segments of maybe 1 minute at a time, so you can try to edit together later. The video quality is not as good for TV.
- You will find more use with still camera over a camcorder. Plus, the movies with a still camera does have some advantages with being easier to download on a computer and easier to email to friends. All the software you need comes with still camera.
Video Camcorder:
2) The video quality is great for TV and its basically continuous shooting, but the still picture quality is no where as good as a still camera. The problem with a camcorder is you can't just shoot everything as a movie. The pictures will be easy to download, but the video requires allot of hard drive space and you may also need to have a more powerful computer to edit high quality video, then you may need to spend more money on cables and software. there are higher chances of computer capability problems with camcorders and computers.
Conclusion:
It seams to me is that you would be happier with a still camera over a camcorder. I would buy a good still camera first, then get a camcorder later when the time is right and you have a little more money. You will use the still camera more than the camcorder. The still camera is also much more cheaper to operate. once you put the pictures on a computer you will be ready to take hundreds of more pictures.
With video you have to keep buying more tapes to record or buy a bigger hard to to download, or have to buy DVD"s to burn, either way it costs more money to operate video.
The zoom is good on both cameras, so no problem there.
Good Luck!
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This is the bottom line:
I have personally have always owned more still cameras than video cameras and that goes for most people. The still camera should be always be your first investment over the a camcorder. Camcorders are nice, but if your not a big fan of making movies and would like to take really nice pictures, the still camera is the way to go.
On an professional level here is the truth:
Still Camera:
1) The picture quality is great on a still camera, but the movies are short segments of maybe 1 minute at a time, so you can try to edit together later. The video quality is not as good for TV.
- You will find more use with still camera over a camcorder. Plus, the movies with a still camera does have some advantages with being easier to download on a computer and easier to email to friends. All the software you need comes with still camera.
Video Camcorder:
2) The video quality is great for TV and its basically continuous shooting, but the still picture quality is no where as good as a still camera. The problem with a camcorder is you can't just shoot everything as a movie. The pictures will be easy to download, but the video requires allot of hard drive space and you may also need to have a more powerful computer to edit high quality video, then you may need to spend more money on cables and software. there are higher chances of computer capability problems with camcorders and computers.
Conclusion:
It seams to me is that you would be happier with a still camera over a camcorder. I would buy a good still camera first, then get a camcorder later when the time is right and you have a little more money. You will use the still camera more than the camcorder. The still camera is also much more cheaper to operate. once you put the pictures on a computer you will be ready to take hundreds of more pictures.
With video you have to keep buying more tapes to record or buy a bigger hard to to download, or have to buy DVD"s to burn, either way it costs more money to operate video.
The zoom is good on both cameras, so no problem there.
Good Luck!
Piero Foto (03/19/2007)
Hey!, Sandy.
The Canon Powershot Canon PowerShot S3 IS seems like a good value for the money and has lots of good features.
I approve. Get this camera.
Good Luck!
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The Canon Powershot Canon PowerShot S3 IS seems like a good value for the money and has lots of good features.
I approve. Get this camera.
Good Luck!
Sandeep (03/20/2007)
Awesome Piero..
Ill go with your suggestion to get digital camera Canon 3S IS.
Thanks a lot for bringing me to a decision in such a short span of time.
Have a wonderful day..
Regards,
Sandeep Agrawal
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Ill go with your suggestion to get digital camera Canon 3S IS.
Thanks a lot for bringing me to a decision in such a short span of time.
Have a wonderful day..
Regards,
Sandeep Agrawal
Piero Foto (03/20/2007)
Hey!, Sandy.
Keep in mind that you can also buy lenses that will fit on this camera to get closer or wider shots.
I recommend to get 1-GB memory card, this way you can fit about 200 shots in high resolution picture mode shoot. They also sell 512MB and 2GB memory cards. Sometimes it could be better to buy two 512MG cards rather than one 1-GB card. Because if one 512 card malfunctions or gets damaged you still have the other 512 for back-up to shoot with. But if you buy a 1-GB card and it malefactions, then you cannot shoot any more. This two memory card system is safer when you are on vacations or in the country or the mountains where is no camera store around. Plus, the extra one can always be used on other digital devices.
Here some 3S IS camera packages:
digicombos.com/SearchResult...
The two below are good packages
This comes with every thing andtwo lenses
digicombos.com/product_p/cn...
digicombos.com/product_p/cn...
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Keep in mind that you can also buy lenses that will fit on this camera to get closer or wider shots.
I recommend to get 1-GB memory card, this way you can fit about 200 shots in high resolution picture mode shoot. They also sell 512MB and 2GB memory cards. Sometimes it could be better to buy two 512MG cards rather than one 1-GB card. Because if one 512 card malfunctions or gets damaged you still have the other 512 for back-up to shoot with. But if you buy a 1-GB card and it malefactions, then you cannot shoot any more. This two memory card system is safer when you are on vacations or in the country or the mountains where is no camera store around. Plus, the extra one can always be used on other digital devices.
Here some 3S IS camera packages:
digicombos.com/SearchResult...
The two below are good packages
This comes with every thing andtwo lenses
digicombos.com/product_p/cn...
digicombos.com/product_p/cn...
Sandeep (03/20/2007)
Thanks again Piero,
At this point of time, I am not looking for the extra lenses etc and currently looking at following:
Canon 3S IS Camera
SD Card - as you suggested 2 Nos (one 512MB and another one 1 GB Each)
Ni-MH Batteries - 8 Nos
Battery Charger
Camera Case to accommodate all above and lenses cleaner kit
Please have a look at the following website.
wisetronics.com/product-p/c...
They are providing the Camera at extremely low price ($280 only). Do you think whether it will a new camera or refurbished one?
How come something with $499 price, some one can sell for $280?
Regards,
Sandeep
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At this point of time, I am not looking for the extra lenses etc and currently looking at following:
Canon 3S IS Camera
SD Card - as you suggested 2 Nos (one 512MB and another one 1 GB Each)
Ni-MH Batteries - 8 Nos
Battery Charger
Camera Case to accommodate all above and lenses cleaner kit
Please have a look at the following website.
wisetronics.com/product-p/c...
They are providing the Camera at extremely low price ($280 only). Do you think whether it will a new camera or refurbished one?
How come something with $499 price, some one can sell for $280?
Regards,
Sandeep
Piero Foto (03/20/2007)
They are new cameras, but to let you know they do not except over seas credit cards.
Some stores have better prices because they buy more volume of cameras.
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Some stores have better prices because they buy more volume of cameras.
Sandeep (03/20/2007)
Thanks for confirming that these are new cameras. I'll see if I can pay or else I'll ask any of my friends in US to pay for the same.
My yahoo mail ID is kumarameya@yahoo.com. Please write me a line or two when you get time.
Anyway thanks a lot for all the help.
Regards,
Sandeep
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My yahoo mail ID is kumarameya@yahoo.com. Please write me a line or two when you get time.
Anyway thanks a lot for all the help.
Regards,
Sandeep
Piero Foto (03/22/2007)
I wanted to ask you if India has PAL or NTSC system.
Quick reply would be great
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Quick reply would be great
Sandeep (03/23/2007)
PAL
Beacuse of the time zone difference, I could not reply to earlier.
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Beacuse of the time zone difference, I could not reply to earlier.
I have been trying to buy a Elura 100, but can not find any of them online. Can you help?...thanks. (Kevin99 — 03/19/2007)
It seems that Canon Elura 100 is out of stock everywhere. Can anybody find one? Amazon.com has a refurbished one for $500. I don't see why I should pay $500 (plus shipping) for a refurbish item. But the MSRP of a new one is only $400.
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Piero Foto (03/19/2007)
Hi, azn.
Unfortunately, Supply and demand dictate the prices.
I have been researching like mad since you posted this. I am tring to do the best I can to help you.
Try this link below for Elura 100 in stock. I might have found on for. Let me know if you buy, or need more links.
smarter.com/canon_elura_100...
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Unfortunately, Supply and demand dictate the prices.
I have been researching like mad since you posted this. I am tring to do the best I can to help you.
Try this link below for Elura 100 in stock. I might have found on for. Let me know if you buy, or need more links.
smarter.com/canon_elura_100...
azn10101 (03/19/2007)
Hi Piero,
Thanks for the link, but none of these vendor has any Elura 100 in stock. Can you suggest the second best camcorder after Elura 100? Is Canon ZR700 any good? it is <$400 and is about my budget range (<$450).
Thanks.
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Thanks for the link, but none of these vendor has any Elura 100 in stock. Can you suggest the second best camcorder after Elura 100? Is Canon ZR700 any good? it is <$400 and is about my budget range (<$450).
Thanks.
Piero Foto (03/19/2007)
Hi, Kevin.
I will get back to you in about an hour, so look out for my answer.
I will do some more research. In the meantime just tell me what your uses will be for videos or the features you need so that I can match you up with right camcorder.
Respond ASAP!
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I will get back to you in about an hour, so look out for my answer.
I will do some more research. In the meantime just tell me what your uses will be for videos or the features you need so that I can match you up with right camcorder.
Respond ASAP!
azn10101 (03/19/2007)
Hi, my main use will be recording vacation trips: beach, parks, forest, mountains, caves, and evening parties on cruise ships...etc.
Thanks.
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Thanks.
Piero Foto (03/20/2007)
Hi, Kevin.
First, I going to say that you should choose a miniDV tape camcorder, because it as the most versatility for video transferring to computer, video friendly editing, easy to burn DVDs, and will also give you the best final picture results for 2nd generation copies. Tapes record in full video data, no MPEG compression like mini disc or hard drive camcorders.
For your video requirements, its basically a general use camcorder you need. The new Canon ZR models will absolutely fit your video needs. The ZR 700 is around $250-$275, you can't beat that price for what you get. Plus, this model has a mic input, very hard to find in this price range. the external mic will give you great sound quality if recording audio from concerts, fire works, airshows, sporting events, and etc. It can be used as a fully automatic point and shoot camcorder, or can be manually controlled to a certain degree with some effect selections. Over all its an entry level camcorder for general video shooting that will fit your needs. The ZR 700 has allot more features than I have mentioned. It really is a good value for what you are geting.
I you want a more advanced video camcorder you will to need to step it up at least double the price. Unfortunately, the Elura would have been a great value, but its not around.
Happy shopping!
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First, I going to say that you should choose a miniDV tape camcorder, because it as the most versatility for video transferring to computer, video friendly editing, easy to burn DVDs, and will also give you the best final picture results for 2nd generation copies. Tapes record in full video data, no MPEG compression like mini disc or hard drive camcorders.
For your video requirements, its basically a general use camcorder you need. The new Canon ZR models will absolutely fit your video needs. The ZR 700 is around $250-$275, you can't beat that price for what you get. Plus, this model has a mic input, very hard to find in this price range. the external mic will give you great sound quality if recording audio from concerts, fire works, airshows, sporting events, and etc. It can be used as a fully automatic point and shoot camcorder, or can be manually controlled to a certain degree with some effect selections. Over all its an entry level camcorder for general video shooting that will fit your needs. The ZR 700 has allot more features than I have mentioned. It really is a good value for what you are geting.
I you want a more advanced video camcorder you will to need to step it up at least double the price. Unfortunately, the Elura would have been a great value, but its not around.
Happy shopping!
Piero Foto (03/20/2007)
Hi once more, Kevin.
In case you want to step it up to a really nice more advanced camcorder that gives all the great stuff the Elura 100 has and even more. Plus with a great 3-CCD high quality picture, then I would suggest the Panasonic GS500. This camera would be like a BMW of camcorders and its a camcorder that you can learn with without growing out of it. You would not need another camcorder for a long time. It sells for around $700, but its worth every penny.
If are only going to be using the camcorder maybe once or twice a month on the average for special occasions, the ZR 700 will do the job.
Once again good luck. If you can choose an answer that would be great.
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In case you want to step it up to a really nice more advanced camcorder that gives all the great stuff the Elura 100 has and even more. Plus with a great 3-CCD high quality picture, then I would suggest the Panasonic GS500. This camera would be like a BMW of camcorders and its a camcorder that you can learn with without growing out of it. You would not need another camcorder for a long time. It sells for around $700, but its worth every penny.
If are only going to be using the camcorder maybe once or twice a month on the average for special occasions, the ZR 700 will do the job.
Once again good luck. If you can choose an answer that would be great.
Rich Watson (03/20/2007)
I have a ZR700, and it works swell. I like the Analog to Digital converter; I have many old 8mm tapes I want to convert to digital.
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Kevin (03/20/2007)
What about ZR800, 830, 850...etc. These models have 35X optical zoom, but about the same price as ZR700. Is higher model number a better choice?
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Piero Foto (03/20/2007)
Hi, Azn & Every one else.
The ZR line camcorders I have listed below are all around the same for performance and quality, but Canon just switches around the features between camcorders. The higher model number does not have to mean better. The 830 and 850 has no external mic, but the 700 and 800 does. Some have remote control, some don't.
This question page was posted by Azn and its not a forum. So if anyone has questions, they are welcomed to post their own.
Thanks!
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The ZR line camcorders I have listed below are all around the same for performance and quality, but Canon just switches around the features between camcorders. The higher model number does not have to mean better. The 830 and 850 has no external mic, but the 700 and 800 does. Some have remote control, some don't.
This question page was posted by Azn and its not a forum. So if anyone has questions, they are welcomed to post their own.
Thanks!
Kevin99 (03/21/2007)
Hi Piero,
you mentioned ZR700 has an external mic capability. But this is now what I read from the site: camcorderinfo.com/content/C...
It specifically says ZR 700 has no external mic: "Audio for the Canon ZR700 is somewhat limited with users having to rely solely upon the in-camera stereo microphone located on the front of the camcorder body along the bottom edge."
Also, excuse my ignorance, I am a absolute beginner on digital camcorders. I assue fire wire is for connecting to DVD recorders, USB is for computers, and A/V composite in/out is for connecting to old VCR and conver analog tape to digital. Am I correct?
Thanks for all your help.
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you mentioned ZR700 has an external mic capability. But this is now what I read from the site: camcorderinfo.com/content/C...
It specifically says ZR 700 has no external mic: "Audio for the Canon ZR700 is somewhat limited with users having to rely solely upon the in-camera stereo microphone located on the front of the camcorder body along the bottom edge."
Also, excuse my ignorance, I am a absolute beginner on digital camcorders. I assue fire wire is for connecting to DVD recorders, USB is for computers, and A/V composite in/out is for connecting to old VCR and conver analog tape to digital. Am I correct?
Thanks for all your help.
Piero Foto (03/21/2007)
Hi Azn.
You have read it incorrect, its a little confusing the way they say it. The ZR 700 does have an external mic option. They mean that the built in mic is limited.
Generally, the USB is for downloading photos, and the firwire is for downloading video. The PC and Mac do work a little different form each other. The A/V ports are used for transferring analog video to digital. So you can connect a older camcorder or VCR to the ZR 700.
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You have read it incorrect, its a little confusing the way they say it. The ZR 700 does have an external mic option. They mean that the built in mic is limited.
Generally, the USB is for downloading photos, and the firwire is for downloading video. The PC and Mac do work a little different form each other. The A/V ports are used for transferring analog video to digital. So you can connect a older camcorder or VCR to the ZR 700.
Piero Foto (03/21/2007)
Hi again Azn.
You can select a best answer and still ask more questions.
Thanks!
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You can select a best answer and still ask more questions.
Thanks!
pngkids (03/28/2007)
I just bought a new one from Digital Superdeals for $349. I haven't received it yet, so I don't know if it will turn out to be a good deal--but they are the only company I found that still has it in stock for the price. They do have good reviews through comparison sites. Hope this helps.
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Piero Foto (04/02/2007)
Hi, every one.
If anyone is still looking for an Elura 100 let me know, I have one available.
Let me know ASAP!
Thanks!
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If anyone is still looking for an Elura 100 let me know, I have one available.
Let me know ASAP!
Thanks!
topazphoenix (04/10/2007)
Hello Piero-
I'm trying to buy an Elura 100, and was wondering if you still have it. You probably have already sold it, but I thought it wouldn't hurt to ask.
I'm thinking about purchasing one off of eBay, there are a couple of used models and a bunch of refurbished ones. Which would you recommend?
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I'm trying to buy an Elura 100, and was wondering if you still have it. You probably have already sold it, but I thought it wouldn't hurt to ask.
I'm thinking about purchasing one off of eBay, there are a couple of used models and a bunch of refurbished ones. Which would you recommend?
Piero Foto (04/10/2007)
Hey, Mandy.
I believe I can still get it, but I will check for you.
I know someone that ended up with buying two Elura 100's brand new in a box just in the past few weeks. Some people could be considered to have bad luck, but in this case I would say some people have all the good luck. Since the Elura 100 was difficult to get, this person placed a reserved order in advance on their visa with two retailers hoping that one would pull through, but instead, both retailers happened to get one, so this person ended up with two brand new Elura's. So one of them is for sale, its new in a box and never used. If you are interested, I will give you the details to contact them with phone number and email address. This person just wants to get their money back they paid. I believe their total costs were in the upper $400's because of the demand of the Elura.
If you had to decide between used and refurbished, I would go with the refurbished. Refurbished is closer to being new and should still come with full warranty. Refurbished are usually either from customer returns if they changed their minds, or could mean there was maybe a small surface scratch on the camera body or maybe something was missing in the box, or maybe in some rare cases the camera didn't operate properly. Once the box is opened it can't not be sold as new, so what a dealer or manufacture does is correct the problem and resell it as refurbished. Any product return from major melfunctions is usually trashed.
Let me know!
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I believe I can still get it, but I will check for you.
I know someone that ended up with buying two Elura 100's brand new in a box just in the past few weeks. Some people could be considered to have bad luck, but in this case I would say some people have all the good luck. Since the Elura 100 was difficult to get, this person placed a reserved order in advance on their visa with two retailers hoping that one would pull through, but instead, both retailers happened to get one, so this person ended up with two brand new Elura's. So one of them is for sale, its new in a box and never used. If you are interested, I will give you the details to contact them with phone number and email address. This person just wants to get their money back they paid. I believe their total costs were in the upper $400's because of the demand of the Elura.
If you had to decide between used and refurbished, I would go with the refurbished. Refurbished is closer to being new and should still come with full warranty. Refurbished are usually either from customer returns if they changed their minds, or could mean there was maybe a small surface scratch on the camera body or maybe something was missing in the box, or maybe in some rare cases the camera didn't operate properly. Once the box is opened it can't not be sold as new, so what a dealer or manufacture does is correct the problem and resell it as refurbished. Any product return from major melfunctions is usually trashed.
Let me know!
topazphoenix (04/10/2007)
I'm interested in the Elura 100 this person has available. Would you please give me their email so I can learn more about it? Thanks!
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Piero Foto (04/10/2007)
Mandy.
Update.
I am looking into it now if its still available. I will keep you posted.
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Update.
I am looking into it now if its still available. I will keep you posted.
Piero Foto (04/11/2007)
Mandy.
Sorry, I just found out that new Elura 100 camcorder sold the same time as you responded.
If you really want an Elura 100, I do recommend a refurbished one. I have bought digital refurbished items before and didn't see any difference of new. What ever the reason was why the original package was opened and returned, they are all double checked and made sure that everthing is corrected and intact like new before reselling. There not sold as "As Is Items". They are really re-sold as new items, but by law its classified as "refurbished" like new. Plus, the factory warranty starts from the time you buy it and you should still have the option for an extended warranty which makes you more than covered.
I tried.
Good Luck!
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Sorry, I just found out that new Elura 100 camcorder sold the same time as you responded.
If you really want an Elura 100, I do recommend a refurbished one. I have bought digital refurbished items before and didn't see any difference of new. What ever the reason was why the original package was opened and returned, they are all double checked and made sure that everthing is corrected and intact like new before reselling. There not sold as "As Is Items". They are really re-sold as new items, but by law its classified as "refurbished" like new. Plus, the factory warranty starts from the time you buy it and you should still have the option for an extended warranty which makes you more than covered.
I tried.
Good Luck!
topazphoenix (04/11/2007)
Thanks for all your help!
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Piero Foto (04/14/2007)
Hey, Azn.
I am just following up. Has your original question been answered yet. I don't know if have been following your own thread, but either way I hope you have found your camcorder.
Thanks!
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I am just following up. Has your original question been answered yet. I don't know if have been following your own thread, but either way I hope you have found your camcorder.
Thanks!
azn10101 (04/14/2007)
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azn_sf (04/14/2007)
yes, I ended up buying a ZR700 for $300 total including shipping.
Thanks.
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Thanks.
Piero Foto (04/14/2007)
Azn.
That's great.
The ZR700 is a good value for what it offers.
If you can select any best answer to close this question off that would be great so that it can be featured in the answered question section for others that might want to view it for reference.
You can post a new question any time and we will be happy to respond.
Thanks, and Good luck!
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That's great.
The ZR700 is a good value for what it offers.
If you can select any best answer to close this question off that would be great so that it can be featured in the answered question section for others that might want to view it for reference.
You can post a new question any time and we will be happy to respond.
Thanks, and Good luck!
pngkids (04/15/2007)
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Piero Foto (04/15/2007)
To Kevin, and Amy.
For some reason, your responses have not indicated anything, its blank.
I would suggest to post a new question and start a new thread.
Here is a link where to post your question:
Elura Questions:
digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor...
General Camcorder Questions:
digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor...
I will be looking out for your questions.
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For some reason, your responses have not indicated anything, its blank.
I would suggest to post a new question and start a new thread.
Here is a link where to post your question:
Elura Questions:
digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor...
General Camcorder Questions:
digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor...
I will be looking out for your questions.
tron1959 (04/18/2007)
I tried to purchase a Canon ZR 700 as suggested above because I too was interested in the Elura 100. I ordered a ZR 700 last Sunday night online from digital nerds for $209.00.
I received an e-mail stating I had to confirm within 24 hours and it gave an 800 number to call to confirm. I was at work on Monday so I didn't read the e-mail until I got home. Prior to my reading the email from the nerds I received a call on my cell phone during the day because I had included it on my order. The nerd tried to cell me a larger battery because he told me the camera did not come with a battery. I told him I believed it did. He then told me it was only a temporary battery and would last only 20 minutes. I again told him I did not wish to order another battery at that time. He told me I was buying a wonderful camera at least three times in this conversation. He then tried to sell me an extended warranty. I told him I wasn't interested. He then said good by and hung up. I didn't think much of it. It is now Tursday and I checked my credit card account and there was no charge on it so I was wondering if indeed I needed to still call to confirm my order. I called the 800 number and was hung up on. I called again and someone asked me to hold on and they never came back so I called a third time. I finally spoke to a live nerd and he told me the camera was no longer available and my order was cancelled and I was not charged. I went to their site and now the Canon ZR 700 is listed at $205.00 and it says it is available. I decided to call in my order by phone. I spoke to another nerd and ordered the camera and the bag I had originally ordered. He tried to sell me a extra battery and I told him I wasn't interested. He wanted to know why I didn't want to order the battery. I told him it came with a battery. He said I should order the battery so I would be able to record more than a few minutes before recharging. I was silent, he asked again. I told him I had already answered I did not want the battery. He told me I was rude and if I wanted to buy a camera to buy the camera elsewhere. I asked how was I rude . He could not answer other than to say they had a policy against rude customers. Believe me I was not rude. He then hung up on me.
I will buy a camera elsewhere. I would hope anyone who reads this would also follow the nerds advice and shop elsewhere.
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I received an e-mail stating I had to confirm within 24 hours and it gave an 800 number to call to confirm. I was at work on Monday so I didn't read the e-mail until I got home. Prior to my reading the email from the nerds I received a call on my cell phone during the day because I had included it on my order. The nerd tried to cell me a larger battery because he told me the camera did not come with a battery. I told him I believed it did. He then told me it was only a temporary battery and would last only 20 minutes. I again told him I did not wish to order another battery at that time. He told me I was buying a wonderful camera at least three times in this conversation. He then tried to sell me an extended warranty. I told him I wasn't interested. He then said good by and hung up. I didn't think much of it. It is now Tursday and I checked my credit card account and there was no charge on it so I was wondering if indeed I needed to still call to confirm my order. I called the 800 number and was hung up on. I called again and someone asked me to hold on and they never came back so I called a third time. I finally spoke to a live nerd and he told me the camera was no longer available and my order was cancelled and I was not charged. I went to their site and now the Canon ZR 700 is listed at $205.00 and it says it is available. I decided to call in my order by phone. I spoke to another nerd and ordered the camera and the bag I had originally ordered. He tried to sell me a extra battery and I told him I wasn't interested. He wanted to know why I didn't want to order the battery. I told him it came with a battery. He said I should order the battery so I would be able to record more than a few minutes before recharging. I was silent, he asked again. I told him I had already answered I did not want the battery. He told me I was rude and if I wanted to buy a camera to buy the camera elsewhere. I asked how was I rude . He could not answer other than to say they had a policy against rude customers. Believe me I was not rude. He then hung up on me.
I will buy a camera elsewhere. I would hope anyone who reads this would also follow the nerds advice and shop elsewhere.
Piero Foto (04/18/2007)
Ron.
There are a number of online retailers that do the same thing, and this type of business isl considered as "Camel Trading".
The retailers that are competitively close in prices are usually the ones that are straight up and above board without a "smoke screen".
Be sure to check online retailer ratings before buying.
resellerratings.com/store/B...
resellerratings.com/
Good Luck!
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There are a number of online retailers that do the same thing, and this type of business isl considered as "Camel Trading".
The retailers that are competitively close in prices are usually the ones that are straight up and above board without a "smoke screen".
Be sure to check online retailer ratings before buying.
resellerratings.com/store/B...
resellerratings.com/
Good Luck!
Piero Foto (04/18/2007)
Azn.
What's it going to take to close this question so it can be moved over to the answered question section.
Thanks!
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What's it going to take to close this question so it can be moved over to the answered question section.
Thanks!
Will MPEG-7, and MPEG-21 (Moving Picture Experts Group) play a role and benefit camcorders? (Piero Foto — 03/28/2007)
Systems/Video/Audio/SNHC/Delivery/MDS
MPEG-1 X X X
MPEG-2 X X X X
MPEG-4 X X X X X
MPEG-7 X X X X
MPEG-21 X
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MPEG-2 X X X X
MPEG-4 X X X X X
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by James DeRuvo (03/30/2007)
Well, considering that both DVD and hard drive based camcorders record in MPEG2, and that Samsung uses MPEG4 in many of it's sports camcorders, I would say that it plays a major role in camcorder design.
Benefit? That's another story. And it depends. If you like convenience, then MPEG2/MPEG4 has it's benefits. It's difficult to argue with recording it on a DVD, finalizing and then popping it into the DVD player at home to enjoy a trip down memory lane.
However, if you want to shoot video and then edit it to take out wasted scenes, add titles and music, etc., you're taking a hit in video quality by shooting native with a DVD camera ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). This is because the video on DVDs is encoded to MPEG2, a compressed format. It's great as an end of the line format, but not for shooting source footage. Likewise, hard drive based camcorders ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ), while convenient, tend to record in MPEG2 (only JVC gives you an option to record in AVI). This gives you the same problem. Additionally, you will also have to "re-encode" (also called demuxing) the footage into an editable format.
MPEG STREAMCLIP is a good option in doing this, however, it's just another hoop to jump though and IMHO it's a hassle for those of us who wish to edit our videos as a hobby.
Oppositely, miniDV cameras ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) are much more robust. Cameras like the Elura 100 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) are much better in format because once you've captured, edited and then burned to DVD, you aren't recompressing already compressed footage, like using the DVD camera would force you into.
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Benefit? That's another story. And it depends. If you like convenience, then MPEG2/MPEG4 has it's benefits. It's difficult to argue with recording it on a DVD, finalizing and then popping it into the DVD player at home to enjoy a trip down memory lane.
However, if you want to shoot video and then edit it to take out wasted scenes, add titles and music, etc., you're taking a hit in video quality by shooting native with a DVD camera ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). This is because the video on DVDs is encoded to MPEG2, a compressed format. It's great as an end of the line format, but not for shooting source footage. Likewise, hard drive based camcorders ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ), while convenient, tend to record in MPEG2 (only JVC gives you an option to record in AVI). This gives you the same problem. Additionally, you will also have to "re-encode" (also called demuxing) the footage into an editable format.
MPEG STREAMCLIP is a good option in doing this, however, it's just another hoop to jump though and IMHO it's a hassle for those of us who wish to edit our videos as a hobby.
Oppositely, miniDV cameras ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) are much more robust. Cameras like the Elura 100 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) are much better in format because once you've captured, edited and then burned to DVD, you aren't recompressing already compressed footage, like using the DVD camera would force you into.
Piero Foto (04/15/2007)
MPEG-7
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPEG-7
MPEG-7 is a multimedia content description standard. This description will be associated with the content itself, to allow fast and efficient searching for material that is of interest to the user. MPEG-7 is formally called Multimedia Content Description Interface. Thus, it is not a standard which deals with the actual encoding of moving pictures and audio, like MPEG-1, MPEG-2 and MPEG-4. It uses XML to store metadata, and can be attached to timecode in order to tag particular events, or synchronise lyrics to a song, for example.
It was designed to standardise:
-a set of description schemes and descriptors
-a language to specify these schemes, called the Description Definition -Language (DDL) a scheme for coding the description
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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPEG-7
MPEG-7 is a multimedia content description standard. This description will be associated with the content itself, to allow fast and efficient searching for material that is of interest to the user. MPEG-7 is formally called Multimedia Content Description Interface. Thus, it is not a standard which deals with the actual encoding of moving pictures and audio, like MPEG-1, MPEG-2 and MPEG-4. It uses XML to store metadata, and can be attached to timecode in order to tag particular events, or synchronise lyrics to a song, for example.
It was designed to standardise:
-a set of description schemes and descriptors
-a language to specify these schemes, called the Description Definition -Language (DDL) a scheme for coding the description
Piero Foto (04/15/2007)
MPEG-21
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPEG-21
The MPEG-21 standard, from the Moving Picture Experts Group aims at defining an open framework for multimedia applications. ISO 21000.
Specifically, MPEG-21 defines a "Rights Expression Language" standard as means of sharing digital rights/permissions/restrictions for digital content from content creator to content consumer. As an XML-based standard, MPEG-21 is designed to communicate machine-readable license information and do so in an "ubiquitous, unambiguous and secure" manner.
Among the aspirations for this standard that the industry hopes will put an end to illicit file sharing is that it will constitute: "A normative open framework for multimedia delivery and consumption for use by all the players in the delivery and consumption chain. This open framework will provide content creators, producers, distributors and service providers with equal opportunities in the MPEG-21 enabled open market."
MPEG-21 is based on two essential concepts: the definition of a fundamental unit of distribution and transaction, which is the Digital Item, and the concept of users interacting with them. Digital Items can be considered the kernel of the Multimedia Framework and the users can be considered as who interacts with them inside the Multimedia Framework. At its most basic level, MPEG-21 provides a framework in which one user interacts with another one, and the object of that interaction is a Digital Item. Due to that, we could say that the main objective of the MPEG-21 is to define the technology needed to support users to exchange, access, consume, trade or manipulate Digital Items in an efficient and transparent way.
The ability for a consumer to not have to pay multiple times for the same content in different formats is absent.
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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPEG-21
The MPEG-21 standard, from the Moving Picture Experts Group aims at defining an open framework for multimedia applications. ISO 21000.
Specifically, MPEG-21 defines a "Rights Expression Language" standard as means of sharing digital rights/permissions/restrictions for digital content from content creator to content consumer. As an XML-based standard, MPEG-21 is designed to communicate machine-readable license information and do so in an "ubiquitous, unambiguous and secure" manner.
Among the aspirations for this standard that the industry hopes will put an end to illicit file sharing is that it will constitute: "A normative open framework for multimedia delivery and consumption for use by all the players in the delivery and consumption chain. This open framework will provide content creators, producers, distributors and service providers with equal opportunities in the MPEG-21 enabled open market."
MPEG-21 is based on two essential concepts: the definition of a fundamental unit of distribution and transaction, which is the Digital Item, and the concept of users interacting with them. Digital Items can be considered the kernel of the Multimedia Framework and the users can be considered as who interacts with them inside the Multimedia Framework. At its most basic level, MPEG-21 provides a framework in which one user interacts with another one, and the object of that interaction is a Digital Item. Due to that, we could say that the main objective of the MPEG-21 is to define the technology needed to support users to exchange, access, consume, trade or manipulate Digital Items in an efficient and transparent way.
The ability for a consumer to not have to pay multiple times for the same content in different formats is absent.
Piero Foto (04/15/2007)
MPEG overview "Understand how MPEG works!"
mpeg.org/MPEG/starting-poin...
chiariglione.org/mpeg/
MPEG-4
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPEG-4
MPEG-2
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPEG-2
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mpeg.org/MPEG/starting-poin...
chiariglione.org/mpeg/
MPEG-4
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPEG-4
MPEG-2
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPEG-2
My screen went black! (Volleyballkid — 03/28/2007)
The recording screen is black and it doesnt let me record, and when i switch from record (black) to playback, it turns off, and the only way to turn it on is to remove the battery and put it back in, please help! The playback works fine though!
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Piero Foto (03/29/2007)
Hi, Nick.
The first thing you need to do is clean the battery and the camcorder battery contacts. Get a pencil and use the eraser end to clean the battery terminals. Rub the eraser back and forth until the contacts are shiny again. It seems that the camcorder may not be drawing enough power from the battery to operate the camcorder properly.
The other option is to get a new battery if the one you have now has been well used or is a few years old. Its probably not holding much power any more.
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The first thing you need to do is clean the battery and the camcorder battery contacts. Get a pencil and use the eraser end to clean the battery terminals. Rub the eraser back and forth until the contacts are shiny again. It seems that the camcorder may not be drawing enough power from the battery to operate the camcorder properly.
The other option is to get a new battery if the one you have now has been well used or is a few years old. Its probably not holding much power any more.
Piero Foto (03/29/2007)
Hey, Nick.
Let me know if cleaning the terminals worked.
If you have the Elura 100, is a link for batteries: Some battery models may hold more power.
Battery BP-208 :$16
camcorder-battery-shop.com/...
You can respond in the reply box below.
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Let me know if cleaning the terminals worked.
If you have the Elura 100, is a link for batteries: Some battery models may hold more power.
Battery BP-208 :$16
camcorder-battery-shop.com/...
You can respond in the reply box below.
Volleyballkid (03/29/2007)
Actually it seemed like it worked, but then it just did the same thing, so I'll try buying another battery, but thank you so much!
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Piero Foto (03/29/2007)
Make sure that the contact terminals are making a good contact. and the battery locks in place. The BP-208 battery has counter sunk contacts so its hard to get to. Try a pin or paper clip end to lightly scrape the battery contacts.
Does your battery show charged on the camcorder.
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Does your battery show charged on the camcorder.
Volleyballkid (03/29/2007)
Well the battery shows full charged (I just charged it again to make sure) and by the contact terminal you mean the place where the battery connects with the camera right?
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Piero Foto (03/29/2007)
Yes, the battery itself has contacts deep in those little fins where it makes contact with the camcorder. Try cleaning the contacts between those fins. Make sure there is no dirt in there. Try moving or pressing on the battery to see if it makes a difference when powering up the cam.
Does your view finder work or is it the same thing with the power problem. Keep the LCD screen closed and try turning power on.
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Does your view finder work or is it the same thing with the power problem. Keep the LCD screen closed and try turning power on.
Piero Foto (03/29/2007)
Also, try plugging the camcorder on your AC adapter, tell me if it works with AC. Try powering up the camcorder with the battery in and with the battery out when you use the AC adapter.
If it does the same thing with using your AC power adapter, then it should not be a battery problem. It looks like its an internal power supply issue. You will need to send it in for repairs. Make sure that your record and playback buttons are fine and not loose, jiggle them around if they seem loose.
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If it does the same thing with using your AC power adapter, then it should not be a battery problem. It looks like its an internal power supply issue. You will need to send it in for repairs. Make sure that your record and playback buttons are fine and not loose, jiggle them around if they seem loose.
Volleyballkid (03/30/2007)
alright, thanks for the help! I'll try that
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Piero, I am disappointed that the Elura is out of stock. Do you know when it will be back in the market? What is the next best choice? Thanks! Suzie. (Penzihues — 04/01/2007)
I would like a MiniDv, under $500... as good as the Elura if not better.
Thanks!
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Thanks!
Piero Foto (04/01/2007)
Alright, Suzie.
So far I have a couple of choices.
Since miniDv tape camcorders are the kings in a video system for easy transferring, computer down loading, editing, and making the best DVD copies, I am only going to suggest miniDV camcorders unless you specify other wise. If you have done your homework with the Elura 100, then you know the value of miniDV tape camcorders and the importance of certain features for advanced videography.
The following models are miniDv tape camcorders with out MPEG compression video files. You need to be carefull with your selection of miniDv camcorders because some of the newer version miniDV tape camcorders record in an MPEG compression. MPEG video files is what you want to stay away from in-order to record best DVD quality.
One choice is the Canon ZR700, it has very similar features as the Elura 100. The ZR700 has an external mic option, "Analog to Digital Pass Through" and a number of the same features. The main difference besides the design is the video and still picture quality is not as high resolution as the Elura, but the price can't be beat for what you get in a consumer camcorder for around $250. Some of these features in the ZR700 are not even offered in some $500-$900 camcorders and definitely not in the lower end models. Its a great value.
ZR700 best price
thedigitalexpo.com/product....
Another choice is the Panasonic GS320. This camcorder has a 3-CCD image sensor which produces an excellent video picture quality for around $399. The still photos are much higher quality than the Elura, plus it has an optical image stabilization(OIS) which is a better system than electronic image stabilization(EIS) as in the Elura 100 or the ZR700. At the same time the as the video and still picture quality is great, there are some lack in features like, no external mic option or "Analog to Digital Pass Through".
GS320 best price
digitalsuperdeals.com/produ...
For now take a look at these two models and I will try suggesting a couple more as I come across them to give you a good choice.
Elura 100 try this link, its worth a shot:
thedigitalexpo.com/product....
Later!
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So far I have a couple of choices.
Since miniDv tape camcorders are the kings in a video system for easy transferring, computer down loading, editing, and making the best DVD copies, I am only going to suggest miniDV camcorders unless you specify other wise. If you have done your homework with the Elura 100, then you know the value of miniDV tape camcorders and the importance of certain features for advanced videography.
The following models are miniDv tape camcorders with out MPEG compression video files. You need to be carefull with your selection of miniDv camcorders because some of the newer version miniDV tape camcorders record in an MPEG compression. MPEG video files is what you want to stay away from in-order to record best DVD quality.
One choice is the Canon ZR700, it has very similar features as the Elura 100. The ZR700 has an external mic option, "Analog to Digital Pass Through" and a number of the same features. The main difference besides the design is the video and still picture quality is not as high resolution as the Elura, but the price can't be beat for what you get in a consumer camcorder for around $250. Some of these features in the ZR700 are not even offered in some $500-$900 camcorders and definitely not in the lower end models. Its a great value.
ZR700 best price
thedigitalexpo.com/product....
Another choice is the Panasonic GS320. This camcorder has a 3-CCD image sensor which produces an excellent video picture quality for around $399. The still photos are much higher quality than the Elura, plus it has an optical image stabilization(OIS) which is a better system than electronic image stabilization(EIS) as in the Elura 100 or the ZR700. At the same time the as the video and still picture quality is great, there are some lack in features like, no external mic option or "Analog to Digital Pass Through".
GS320 best price
digitalsuperdeals.com/produ...
For now take a look at these two models and I will try suggesting a couple more as I come across them to give you a good choice.
Elura 100 try this link, its worth a shot:
thedigitalexpo.com/product....
Later!
Piero Foto (04/02/2007)
Hey, Suzie.
If you still want an Elura 100, there is a good chance I can get one for you.
Reply ASAP!
Thanks!
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If you still want an Elura 100, there is a good chance I can get one for you.
Reply ASAP!
Thanks!
Piero Foto (04/02/2007)
Hey, Suzie.
Are you still there. Are you still looking for a camcorder?
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Are you still there. Are you still looking for a camcorder?
Suzie (04/03/2007)
Hi Piero,
Yes, I still want a camcorder. Please advise.
Suzie.
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Yes, I still want a camcorder. Please advise.
Suzie.
Piero Foto (04/03/2007)
Suzie.
Someone is doing me a big favor and holding a brand new Elura 100 for me, if I don't get back to them by the end of the day, they will sell it to anther person that has cash in hand. Someone I know ended up with two of them. So You will need a money order or a casheirs check.
So, confirm with me that you want the Elura 100 and I will give you all the details. The total price with shipping inluded is going to be around $479. But I will confirm it when I hear from you of what State do you live in.
Let me know ASAP!
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Someone is doing me a big favor and holding a brand new Elura 100 for me, if I don't get back to them by the end of the day, they will sell it to anther person that has cash in hand. Someone I know ended up with two of them. So You will need a money order or a casheirs check.
So, confirm with me that you want the Elura 100 and I will give you all the details. The total price with shipping inluded is going to be around $479. But I will confirm it when I hear from you of what State do you live in.
Let me know ASAP!
Piero Foto (04/03/2007)
Do you want the Elura
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Piero Foto (04/04/2007)
Suzie.
I have not heard from you to confirm. The Elura will be up for grabs tommorrow, the chances will be slim if you are still interested, but you can check with me.
I thought I was helping you out as you were disappointed that the ELura was out of stock. I guess my efforts didn't help and I either misunderstood your question or the your question was asked correctly.
You can check out the other two options I have posted for you. The Elura 100 would be the best of both worlds of the two I suggested.
Good Luck!
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I have not heard from you to confirm. The Elura will be up for grabs tommorrow, the chances will be slim if you are still interested, but you can check with me.
I thought I was helping you out as you were disappointed that the ELura was out of stock. I guess my efforts didn't help and I either misunderstood your question or the your question was asked correctly.
You can check out the other two options I have posted for you. The Elura 100 would be the best of both worlds of the two I suggested.
Good Luck!
The Prof (04/11/2007)
Piero-
Geez, stop hassling the poor woman. And while you're at it, stop referring her to scam retailers. Susan, my advice to you is to buy only from a reputable dealer, like amazon or dell home, and not from some shady "digitalsuperdeals" or "bestpricecamera" scammers.
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Geez, stop hassling the poor woman. And while you're at it, stop referring her to scam retailers. Susan, my advice to you is to buy only from a reputable dealer, like amazon or dell home, and not from some shady "digitalsuperdeals" or "bestpricecamera" scammers.
Piero Foto (04/11/2007)
The Prof.
Thanks, for your input. I will keep it mind.
Hey Suzie.
I hope you have found your camcorder. Just let you know the Elura 100 that was available is now sold. I did my best as I did find one for you. I pulled through a long shot.
Also, to let everyone else know, advisors on this site didicate their own personal time to help consumers with digital needs.
Thanks!
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Thanks, for your input. I will keep it mind.
Hey Suzie.
I hope you have found your camcorder. Just let you know the Elura 100 that was available is now sold. I did my best as I did find one for you. I pulled through a long shot.
Also, to let everyone else know, advisors on this site didicate their own personal time to help consumers with digital needs.
Thanks!
After searching for the Elura I ended up with two (long story), does anyone have a suggestion about the best way to sell the second? ebay, amazon..? (ambrily73 — 04/02/2007)
I originally ordered a 100 from a shp in NY that later called and said they didn't have it. I then went on a mad search and found 2, one (new) at Frys in Chicago one (open box) in Phoenix. I had a friend in both Phoneix and Chicago buy them for me to ensure I got one. (Frys would not send one directly) My friend in Chicago opened the box and checked it out thinking I was going to keep it. What should I do?
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Piero Foto (04/02/2007)
Hi Angie D.
I will buy one from you, don't sell it or return it just yet.
Here is my email address: pierofoto@comcast.net We can talk more offline.
Thanks!
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I will buy one from you, don't sell it or return it just yet.
Here is my email address: pierofoto@comcast.net We can talk more offline.
Thanks!
ambrily73 (04/02/2007)
so you know it is me my email starts ambr
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Piero Foto (04/11/2007)
Hey, Ang.
If you look on the list, you are in the "Top 50 Camcorder Advisors" with some extra points I was able to give you.
digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor...
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If you look on the list, you are in the "Top 50 Camcorder Advisors" with some extra points I was able to give you.
digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor...
Cannot record to Elura 100 from an external microphone (Ungermann — 04/04/2007)
Hi. I have Elura 100 and I like it. I bought a small tie-clip mic and I am pretty sure it worked. But it does not work now, when I plug the mic into the camera, it records nothing. Same with small computer mic. I've read that I should use powered mic with a separate battery, but I do believe that I was able to use my small tie-clip mic without any external battery directly. Could I damage something in the camera? Any piece of advice? Thanks.
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Piero Foto (04/04/2007)
Hey, Ugerman.
If the mic has a battery compartment, it has to be pwered by a battery. Either in the mic itself or in the transmitter and receiver if its wireless.
Also, there are different mic setting options in the Elura's menue set up for audio. Make sure you do not have any audio settings turned off or set to something else. The Elura will also give you audio options for 12bit and 16bit mic settings.
Check your battery issue first, then check the settings. If you still have problems I will try to walk you through some steps to make it work.
You can ask in the reply box below.
Good Luck!
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If the mic has a battery compartment, it has to be pwered by a battery. Either in the mic itself or in the transmitter and receiver if its wireless.
Also, there are different mic setting options in the Elura's menue set up for audio. Make sure you do not have any audio settings turned off or set to something else. The Elura will also give you audio options for 12bit and 16bit mic settings.
Check your battery issue first, then check the settings. If you still have problems I will try to walk you through some steps to make it work.
You can ask in the reply box below.
Good Luck!
Ungermann (04/04/2007)
My mics are very small, each one about an inch length, they are not powered at all. Should they work, or do you have to use a powered mic only with Elura?
I looked into the menu and read the manual, it seems that the settings are for dubbing only. The icon on the LCD shows that external mic is in.
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I looked into the menu and read the manual, it seems that the settings are for dubbing only. The icon on the LCD shows that external mic is in.
Piero Foto (04/04/2007)
Ugerman.
Alright then, Lets take the next step. Do you have a battery powered mic you can try. Also, just to make sure, the mic jack port is not the A/V port.
The mic I use with my Elura 100 is a battery powered mini shotgun mic and it works great. I have not tried a regular mic, but I do know that many digital devices do require battery powered assisted mics in-order to work. Mics for camcorders generally are battery powered to the best of my knowledge.
I have a (1-AAA)battery powered Sima MZM-1 mini shot gun mic with two sensitivity settings including an off switch and a wind screen. I paid around $45 at a local BestBuy store. This mic makes a big improvement over any built-in camcorder condenser mic. The audio recording sounds much more professional, worth every penny. There are much more expensive models, but the Sima mic did the job for me. I would figure that you would need to spend in the range of over a $100 to get a better noticeable quality difference than the Sima MZM-1.
I will check more on this. Waiting for your comment.
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Alright then, Lets take the next step. Do you have a battery powered mic you can try. Also, just to make sure, the mic jack port is not the A/V port.
The mic I use with my Elura 100 is a battery powered mini shotgun mic and it works great. I have not tried a regular mic, but I do know that many digital devices do require battery powered assisted mics in-order to work. Mics for camcorders generally are battery powered to the best of my knowledge.
I have a (1-AAA)battery powered Sima MZM-1 mini shot gun mic with two sensitivity settings including an off switch and a wind screen. I paid around $45 at a local BestBuy store. This mic makes a big improvement over any built-in camcorder condenser mic. The audio recording sounds much more professional, worth every penny. There are much more expensive models, but the Sima mic did the job for me. I would figure that you would need to spend in the range of over a $100 to get a better noticeable quality difference than the Sima MZM-1.
I will check more on this. Waiting for your comment.
Piero Foto (04/04/2007)
Are your mics mono or stereo. The ground and positive placement on the mono mini mic jacks are different than the stereo minijacks. This could be one reason why it may not be making the correct contact. Try moving the mic jack slightly back and fourth while recording a test with some music in background or you talking. Play it back and see if there is any indication of sound, if there is then it could be just an incorrect type of mini jack. Radio Shack should sell different types of adapter mini jacks, Some convert mono to stereo and vice-verse. The other option is to bring your camcorder to Radio shacK and try out some mics there in the store with battery powered mics and test it out, then you will know for sure if it is a mic problem or a camcorder problem.
Hopefully its just a mic issue with an incorrect mini jack connection or an impedance mismatch.
Good Luck!
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Hopefully its just a mic issue with an incorrect mini jack connection or an impedance mismatch.
Good Luck!
Ungermann (04/05/2007)
I bought powered Sima mic and it works, but seems that the sound quality is worse than the built-in mic. It feels as if all lower frequences are lost, and the volume is lower. Maybe the camera amplifier has died? Anyway, powered mic sort of works, I will test it more thoroughly.
Thanks for the tip with possible issues with incorrect type of connector. I will try other mics.
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Thanks for the tip with possible issues with incorrect type of connector. I will try other mics.
Piero Foto (04/05/2007)
That is some of the characteristics of a shotgun mic. Condenser mics generally are more sensitive and pick-up allot of ambient sounds, which includes unwanted surrounding sounds at the same time, and sometimes giving a tin can like sound. The lower frequencies give a fuller richer professional sound. The characteristic sound coverage of Shotgun mics are narrow and record more towards where its amimed rather than in a circular radius.
There are many different type of mics available, you will need to read up on the different types and choose the one that suits your needs. Generally, the shotgun mic is the most popular alternative because it focuses on the sound you point it at, cutting back unwanted noice.
Happy Filming!
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There are many different type of mics available, you will need to read up on the different types and choose the one that suits your needs. Generally, the shotgun mic is the most popular alternative because it focuses on the sound you point it at, cutting back unwanted noice.
Happy Filming!
Harris (04/07/2007)
Piero,
Was the Sima mic stereo or mono and did you need an adapter?
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Was the Sima mic stereo or mono and did you need an adapter?
Piero Foto (04/07/2007)
Hey, Harris.
No adapter is necessary.
I will be happy to give the info, actually as I getting together all the full specs on the Sima MZM-1, can you start a new question at the top of page. Just ask your question where it says "Have a question about the 100?"
I will send you extra info on MZM-1, plus other mic info, and shoe mount brackets, etc.
I will keep a look out on your question.
Thanks!
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No adapter is necessary.
I will be happy to give the info, actually as I getting together all the full specs on the Sima MZM-1, can you start a new question at the top of page. Just ask your question where it says "Have a question about the 100?"
I will send you extra info on MZM-1, plus other mic info, and shoe mount brackets, etc.
I will keep a look out on your question.
Thanks!
Piero Foto (04/07/2007)
Mic mounting Tips:
You should not mount mics directly on camcorders, they will get much reuslts mounting it off a camcorder. This is what I recommend for all consumer camcorders of camera shoe mounts.
To mount your external mic or an external light when needed, just get a camcorder accessory cold shoe mount bracket, they cost starting from $10. Bescor VB-50 this is a good bracket, it has two cold shoe mounts, a hand grip and its also designed to not interfere with your LCD screen when opened. The hand grip will give you some extra handling control.
These are some of the problems you would encounter if using a camcorder shoe mount.
1) If an external microphone is mounted directly on the camcorder, you are going to record allot of unwanted sounds and nosies like your hands fumbling around the controls and even picking up sounds from the camcorder motors. The mic needs to be mounted at least 6 inches away from the camcorder.
2) If an external video light is mount directly on the camcorder, you are increasing your chances of getting the red eye effect because the light is to close in alignment with the lens and if you are using conversion lenses with the video light mounted on the camcorder, you will also get shadows caused by the protruding lens that blocks some of the source. The video light also needs to mounted at least 6-8 inches away from camcorder, this will result in better contrast as well as reducing blow outs from glare.
Bescor VB-50 Universal Shoe Mount Adapter. Bracket Attaches To Bottom Screw Mount. Has 2 Shoe Mounts $10
bhphotovideo.com/bnh/contro...
OR
Canon SA-1 Shoe Adapter Bracket, - for Camcorders without Accessory Shoe $40
bhphotovideo.com/bnh/contro...
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You should not mount mics directly on camcorders, they will get much reuslts mounting it off a camcorder. This is what I recommend for all consumer camcorders of camera shoe mounts.
To mount your external mic or an external light when needed, just get a camcorder accessory cold shoe mount bracket, they cost starting from $10. Bescor VB-50 this is a good bracket, it has two cold shoe mounts, a hand grip and its also designed to not interfere with your LCD screen when opened. The hand grip will give you some extra handling control.
These are some of the problems you would encounter if using a camcorder shoe mount.
1) If an external microphone is mounted directly on the camcorder, you are going to record allot of unwanted sounds and nosies like your hands fumbling around the controls and even picking up sounds from the camcorder motors. The mic needs to be mounted at least 6 inches away from the camcorder.
2) If an external video light is mount directly on the camcorder, you are increasing your chances of getting the red eye effect because the light is to close in alignment with the lens and if you are using conversion lenses with the video light mounted on the camcorder, you will also get shadows caused by the protruding lens that blocks some of the source. The video light also needs to mounted at least 6-8 inches away from camcorder, this will result in better contrast as well as reducing blow outs from glare.
Bescor VB-50 Universal Shoe Mount Adapter. Bracket Attaches To Bottom Screw Mount. Has 2 Shoe Mounts $10
bhphotovideo.com/bnh/contro...
OR
Canon SA-1 Shoe Adapter Bracket, - for Camcorders without Accessory Shoe $40
bhphotovideo.com/bnh/contro...
Piero Foto (04/11/2007)
Hey, Ugerman.
Is any further advice you need to your question. If you do, you can just reply in the reply box below. we will be more than happy to respond to conclude your question.
Thanks!
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Is any further advice you need to your question. If you do, you can just reply in the reply box below. we will be more than happy to respond to conclude your question.
Thanks!
Ungermann (04/11/2007)
I returned MZM-1 back to store, it sucked beyond recognition. Then I bought Sony MS908C just to try, I did not want to keep it because it is quite expensive, but now I am not sure will I be returning it or not, this mic is really good. I am contemplating ATR-25 or maybe ATR-55 (the latter is a shotgun mic, the former is not), but local brick-and-mortar stores do not carry them, and I don't want the hassle of ordering from the net and then sending it back if I don't like it.
So I might keep the Sony mic. It costs twice more than MZM-1, but it is like day and night, there is no comparison.
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So I might keep the Sony mic. It costs twice more than MZM-1, but it is like day and night, there is no comparison.
Piero Foto (04/11/2007)
Hey, Ugerman.
I am sorry to hear the news. So, just go ahead and buy what suits your needs regardless of the cost, type, or brand. Since you were not sure were to start, I could only recommend something I have tested myself under $500, which actually works well in audio post production.
I don't know if you are planning to work with audio editing and mixing, but with what ever mic you choose, whether its the ATR-25 or maybe ATR-55, keep in mind that if its not perfect to your taste it can be made to sound the way you want in post production. Some of the more sophisticated editing software suites include elaborate audio editing control, in fact you can even create new sound.
Not everyone likes the color "Blue," that's why there are choices.
I hope I at least answered your original question posted of a powered mic issue for the camcorder. Any additional input over and above was only trying to be helpful. Many responses and answers I have read including from other sites usually leave consumers still in the dark. Maybe in the future I should stick to only responding to the original questions.
Good Luck!
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I am sorry to hear the news. So, just go ahead and buy what suits your needs regardless of the cost, type, or brand. Since you were not sure were to start, I could only recommend something I have tested myself under $500, which actually works well in audio post production.
I don't know if you are planning to work with audio editing and mixing, but with what ever mic you choose, whether its the ATR-25 or maybe ATR-55, keep in mind that if its not perfect to your taste it can be made to sound the way you want in post production. Some of the more sophisticated editing software suites include elaborate audio editing control, in fact you can even create new sound.
Not everyone likes the color "Blue," that's why there are choices.
I hope I at least answered your original question posted of a powered mic issue for the camcorder. Any additional input over and above was only trying to be helpful. Many responses and answers I have read including from other sites usually leave consumers still in the dark. Maybe in the future I should stick to only responding to the original questions.
Good Luck!
What's The best camcorder for beginning film students? (suemin91 — 04/05/2007)
I just got into film and need to know what's the best for film students and also something not too expensive...
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by James DeRuvo (04/05/2007)
Well, let's make it a little easier for you! If you want to shoot video and then edit it to take out wasted scenes, add titles and music, etc., you're taking a hit in video quality by shooting native with a DVD camera ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). This is because the video on DVDs is encoded to MPEG2, a compressed format. It's great as an end of the line format, but not for shooting source footage. Likewise, hard drive based camcorders ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ), while convenient, tend to record in MPEG2 (only JVC gives you an option to record in AVI). This gives you the same problem. Additionally, you will also have to "re-encode" (also called demuxing) the footage into an editable format. It's a hassle for those of us who wish to edit our videos as a hobby.
Oppositely, miniDV cameras ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) are much more robust. Cameras like the Elura 100 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) are much better in format because once you've captured, edited and then burned to DVD, you aren't recompressing already compressed footage, like using the DVD camera would force you into.
Now, let's talk about what PC you're using. Are you a MAC user? If so, it's a good idea to steer clear of SONY ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ), IMHO, as they tend to be incompatible with MAC due to proprietary issues. They do, however, work just fine with PCs, go figure.
I'm a big fan of Canon ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). Particularly the Canon Elura ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). It has widescreen ability, image stabilization, recording in Dolby, and a nifty little feature called analog to digital pass through, which enables you to take those home movies you have on VHS and capture them onto your PC by daisy chaining your VCR through the camera and into the PC via firewire. Then you can edit and burn to DVD as well. Great feature.
Some will argue that due to the design, that the Elura can record noise from it's mechanisms being so close to the microphone. My research suggests that this may or may not be a design flaw as many just don't get the noise issue on their videos while some complain they do. I'm not convinced it's a design wide issue and may be due to faulty individual units that need to be repaired or replaced. Still, it's a good solid camera and there are great prices on the link above.
Another good option is the Panasonic GS500 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). 3CCD camera with both firewire and USB 2.0 for transfer, image stabilization, and recording on miniDV. Word on the street though, is that the GS500 has been discontinued to make ready for a new model. You can still find it available as vendors sell out their existing stock to make ready. And support will still be available for it.
Both these cameras are good solid options. Sadly, both have also been discontinued - although you can still get them for the moment.
Canon announced some upgrades to its ZR-line of miniDV camcorders. The Canon ZR800, 830, and 850 will replace the ZR500, 600, and 700 as the company's budget video cameras. While these new models offer only minor improvements over their predecessors, they're welcome offerings ...
With a price difference of just $80 between models, the three offer similar features. All are relatively low resolution, with 680,000-pixel sensors on the ZR800 and ZR830 and a 1-megapixel sensor on the ZR850. All three use the same 35X zoom lens, and feature *electronic* image stabilization to reduce shake. Of course, any magnification over about 12X is usually going to be shaky without a tripod, regardless of the anti-shake features. Finally, all three camcorders have a 2.7-inch 16:9 widescreen LCD for framing shots.
The ZR830 and ZR850 include a new QuickStart feature, a modified standby mode that Canon claims draws 50 percent less power. All three camcorders also feature SecureDigital card slots, and the ZR830 and ZR850 support SDHC cards with capacities of 4 GB and higher. While the ZR800 doesn't feature QuickStart, it's the only one among the three to offer an external microphone port. ZR830 and ZR850 users have to make due with the camera's built-in mic.
The Canon ZR800, ZR830, and ZR850 ship later this month, with suggested price tags of $280, $300, and $353, respectively.
So, why haven't I talked about HD? I just don't think it's ready for the mainstream consumer because of market saturation of HD. As such, it's purely the domain of professionals and early adopters who don't mind investing a good deal of cash to be the first ones to use the latest. That's changing mind you. As we head towards 2007 (the year that Uncle Sam has mandated for moving television broadcast into the HD spectrum), prices have dropped dramatically this year on HD televisions (from $8K to just over $1K), but let's not forget that you'd also need an HD capable editing software, HD DVD burner, HD dvd player, etc. And you need to unlearn and relearn how to shoot HD. And how many friends and family are actually investing in HD at the moment? Sharing HD DVDs with them will be a problem. So, for at least the next 6 months to a year, HD is still out of reach. But it won't be for long.
Well, my beef about HD is that market saturation just isn't there yet. And in buying an HD camera, you have to also upgrade to an HDTV, HD DVD player, HD DVD burner and use expensive HD DVD media. And since there's yet another petty and rediculous format war going on between HD DVD and Blue Ray, which one do you get? And that also has an issue with what others have. All this, and the fact that HD is still the purvue of the early adopter has prices very expensive and it all adds up.
No matter what you decide on, make sure that you have at least widescreen format options, an external mic jack, miniDV, and both MAC and PC compatibility.
I hope that helps.
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Oppositely, miniDV cameras ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) are much more robust. Cameras like the Elura 100 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) are much better in format because once you've captured, edited and then burned to DVD, you aren't recompressing already compressed footage, like using the DVD camera would force you into.
Now, let's talk about what PC you're using. Are you a MAC user? If so, it's a good idea to steer clear of SONY ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ), IMHO, as they tend to be incompatible with MAC due to proprietary issues. They do, however, work just fine with PCs, go figure.
I'm a big fan of Canon ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). Particularly the Canon Elura ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). It has widescreen ability, image stabilization, recording in Dolby, and a nifty little feature called analog to digital pass through, which enables you to take those home movies you have on VHS and capture them onto your PC by daisy chaining your VCR through the camera and into the PC via firewire. Then you can edit and burn to DVD as well. Great feature.
Some will argue that due to the design, that the Elura can record noise from it's mechanisms being so close to the microphone. My research suggests that this may or may not be a design flaw as many just don't get the noise issue on their videos while some complain they do. I'm not convinced it's a design wide issue and may be due to faulty individual units that need to be repaired or replaced. Still, it's a good solid camera and there are great prices on the link above.
Another good option is the Panasonic GS500 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). 3CCD camera with both firewire and USB 2.0 for transfer, image stabilization, and recording on miniDV. Word on the street though, is that the GS500 has been discontinued to make ready for a new model. You can still find it available as vendors sell out their existing stock to make ready. And support will still be available for it.
Both these cameras are good solid options. Sadly, both have also been discontinued - although you can still get them for the moment.
Canon announced some upgrades to its ZR-line of miniDV camcorders. The Canon ZR800, 830, and 850 will replace the ZR500, 600, and 700 as the company's budget video cameras. While these new models offer only minor improvements over their predecessors, they're welcome offerings ...
With a price difference of just $80 between models, the three offer similar features. All are relatively low resolution, with 680,000-pixel sensors on the ZR800 and ZR830 and a 1-megapixel sensor on the ZR850. All three use the same 35X zoom lens, and feature *electronic* image stabilization to reduce shake. Of course, any magnification over about 12X is usually going to be shaky without a tripod, regardless of the anti-shake features. Finally, all three camcorders have a 2.7-inch 16:9 widescreen LCD for framing shots.
The ZR830 and ZR850 include a new QuickStart feature, a modified standby mode that Canon claims draws 50 percent less power. All three camcorders also feature SecureDigital card slots, and the ZR830 and ZR850 support SDHC cards with capacities of 4 GB and higher. While the ZR800 doesn't feature QuickStart, it's the only one among the three to offer an external microphone port. ZR830 and ZR850 users have to make due with the camera's built-in mic.
The Canon ZR800, ZR830, and ZR850 ship later this month, with suggested price tags of $280, $300, and $353, respectively.
So, why haven't I talked about HD? I just don't think it's ready for the mainstream consumer because of market saturation of HD. As such, it's purely the domain of professionals and early adopters who don't mind investing a good deal of cash to be the first ones to use the latest. That's changing mind you. As we head towards 2007 (the year that Uncle Sam has mandated for moving television broadcast into the HD spectrum), prices have dropped dramatically this year on HD televisions (from $8K to just over $1K), but let's not forget that you'd also need an HD capable editing software, HD DVD burner, HD dvd player, etc. And you need to unlearn and relearn how to shoot HD. And how many friends and family are actually investing in HD at the moment? Sharing HD DVDs with them will be a problem. So, for at least the next 6 months to a year, HD is still out of reach. But it won't be for long.
Well, my beef about HD is that market saturation just isn't there yet. And in buying an HD camera, you have to also upgrade to an HDTV, HD DVD player, HD DVD burner and use expensive HD DVD media. And since there's yet another petty and rediculous format war going on between HD DVD and Blue Ray, which one do you get? And that also has an issue with what others have. All this, and the fact that HD is still the purvue of the early adopter has prices very expensive and it all adds up.
No matter what you decide on, make sure that you have at least widescreen format options, an external mic jack, miniDV, and both MAC and PC compatibility.
I hope that helps.
Piero Foto (04/05/2007)
Hey Danielle.
As you probably already know, I will confirm it again for you. Absolutely, and undisputed, the miniDV tape camcorders with out MPEG compression video files are the kings in video transferring, editing, and making the best video picture quality DVDs. MiniDv tape media format is the preferred choice by professionals until new technology can prove otherwise. As James mentioned above, an external mic option is very important for video sound editing.
The Canon Elura 100 is the best allaround cam for the money and for film students. The Elura has options that are not even available on $700-$1000 cam models. It has features and functions very usefull to the student/advanced videographers.
The next best for students, I suggest the ZR700. It still has lot of the same features the Elura has, but the overall video and still quality is not as high resolution. The ZR 700 still offers some manual controls for student/advanced videogrpahers, also external mic option and "Analog to Digital Pass Through". For under $299 you can't beat the price for what it has to offer. There is nothing that comes close for over all performance in this price range and for video students.
If the Elura 80 is available I would consider it over the ZR700. For overall performance the Elura 80 is closer to the Elura 100. All the issues in design, features and function performance in the Elura 80 were resolved and fine tuned in the creation of the Elura 100.
The Elura 100 for a little more money gives all of these features and more plus a better resolution video and still image quality. Keep in mind that for video editing, the better the video resolution you start with the better your end final edited results. The Elura would be my best choice, I am an Elura 100 owner my self that I use on my Mac dual core Pro laptop. It works great! I use iMovie, Final Cut Pro suite and some other fun stuff.
If you want an Elura 100 its going to be tough to find as its just been sold out, but I can still get a new one for you if you are seriously interested.
Happy Shopping!
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As you probably already know, I will confirm it again for you. Absolutely, and undisputed, the miniDV tape camcorders with out MPEG compression video files are the kings in video transferring, editing, and making the best video picture quality DVDs. MiniDv tape media format is the preferred choice by professionals until new technology can prove otherwise. As James mentioned above, an external mic option is very important for video sound editing.
The Canon Elura 100 is the best allaround cam for the money and for film students. The Elura has options that are not even available on $700-$1000 cam models. It has features and functions very usefull to the student/advanced videographers.
The next best for students, I suggest the ZR700. It still has lot of the same features the Elura has, but the overall video and still quality is not as high resolution. The ZR 700 still offers some manual controls for student/advanced videogrpahers, also external mic option and "Analog to Digital Pass Through". For under $299 you can't beat the price for what it has to offer. There is nothing that comes close for over all performance in this price range and for video students.
If the Elura 80 is available I would consider it over the ZR700. For overall performance the Elura 80 is closer to the Elura 100. All the issues in design, features and function performance in the Elura 80 were resolved and fine tuned in the creation of the Elura 100.
The Elura 100 for a little more money gives all of these features and more plus a better resolution video and still image quality. Keep in mind that for video editing, the better the video resolution you start with the better your end final edited results. The Elura would be my best choice, I am an Elura 100 owner my self that I use on my Mac dual core Pro laptop. It works great! I use iMovie, Final Cut Pro suite and some other fun stuff.
If you want an Elura 100 its going to be tough to find as its just been sold out, but I can still get a new one for you if you are seriously interested.
Happy Shopping!
Piero Foto (04/05/2007)
Danielle.
When I was a film student back in '78, I had a Canon 1014XL-S movie film cam, it was like having a cam comparable to today's Canon XL2 DV video.
Check it out
retrothing.com/2005/11/cano...
Hey, James.
Have you ever used one one these cams before. The time lapse features are cool for animation. There are features and functions in this cam that are not even available in today's camcorders. By the way, I am holding it in my hand as I am writing this response. Many great memories. I had film editing equipment and Multi track sound-on sound movie projectors. I have used it professionally until around 1992, In later 80's Super-8 film became more difficult to get and eventually had to buy it from kodak directly as video was very main stream. Early 90' I then had to order the film from Kodak France, the film stock was available in Sepia, B&W Tri-X, Plus-X, and Ektachrome and Kodachrome. Kodak finally stopped making the film altogether in the late 90's.
Check out the impressive specs
canon.com/camera-museum/cam...
canon.com/camera-museum/cam...
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When I was a film student back in '78, I had a Canon 1014XL-S movie film cam, it was like having a cam comparable to today's Canon XL2 DV video.
Check it out
retrothing.com/2005/11/cano...
Hey, James.
Have you ever used one one these cams before. The time lapse features are cool for animation. There are features and functions in this cam that are not even available in today's camcorders. By the way, I am holding it in my hand as I am writing this response. Many great memories. I had film editing equipment and Multi track sound-on sound movie projectors. I have used it professionally until around 1992, In later 80's Super-8 film became more difficult to get and eventually had to buy it from kodak directly as video was very main stream. Early 90' I then had to order the film from Kodak France, the film stock was available in Sepia, B&W Tri-X, Plus-X, and Ektachrome and Kodachrome. Kodak finally stopped making the film altogether in the late 90's.
Check out the impressive specs
canon.com/camera-museum/cam...
canon.com/camera-museum/cam...
Need information about using the Sima MZM-1 on the Elura 100 (Harris — 04/07/2007)
I need details about stereo vs monaural, etc
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Piero Foto (04/07/2007)
Hi, Harris.
The Sima MZM-1 is a nice little shot gun mic. I use it as much as I can on my Elura 100 and it will perform the same on many other consumer camcorders. There is no info or specs including from the manufacture themselves that claims whether the MZM-1 is stereo or mono, but one thing for sure, I can tell you that mic jack on the MZM-2 physically indicates that its a stereo mic. it plugs into your mic port on the Elura 100 without any mini jack adapters. It has two sensitivity ranges, the zoom mode narrows the audio coverage to pinpoint more of your sound focus to where you are pointing the mic. The MZM-1 also comes with wind screen.
Shot gun mics generally records in a lower frequency response than condenser mics because it helps eliminate unwanted surrounding audio noises, So shotgun mic characteristics results in a little deeper sound. Its a much more professional sound than from condenser mics that records in circular radius capturing more than want. Every mic has its purpose, the shotgun mic seems to be very favorable.
Sima MZM-1 Shotgun $30
audio-discounters.com/mzm-1...
The audio is just as, if not more, important than the video. What is the point of watching a video if you can not understand the audio? The question then is, "How do I get good audio?" There is only one answer - USE AN EXTERNAL MICROPHONE! The built-in microphone that comes equipped with most camcorders will generally fall far short of your requirements.
The MZM-1 is small but powerful. This super compact mighty mic zooms in to pinpoint audio sources for improved audio quality. Picks up conversations, speeches, nature sounds and more. Stylish and high quality - it's a top performer.
Specifications
Frequency response: 100 -10KHz
Impedance: Low impedance
Settings: Normal and Zoom
Effective Output level:
Normal: -66dB +/- 3dB unbalanced
Zoom: -79dB +/- 3dB unbalanced
Microphone range: 80 dB
Power requirement: One AAA battery (not incl.)
Power consumption: 2 mA
Battery life: 300 hours
Dimensions: 4.5" (L) x 1.5" (W) x 1.5"
Mount: Sound-isolating rubber shoe mount minimizes camera noise.
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The Sima MZM-1 is a nice little shot gun mic. I use it as much as I can on my Elura 100 and it will perform the same on many other consumer camcorders. There is no info or specs including from the manufacture themselves that claims whether the MZM-1 is stereo or mono, but one thing for sure, I can tell you that mic jack on the MZM-2 physically indicates that its a stereo mic. it plugs into your mic port on the Elura 100 without any mini jack adapters. It has two sensitivity ranges, the zoom mode narrows the audio coverage to pinpoint more of your sound focus to where you are pointing the mic. The MZM-1 also comes with wind screen.
Shot gun mics generally records in a lower frequency response than condenser mics because it helps eliminate unwanted surrounding audio noises, So shotgun mic characteristics results in a little deeper sound. Its a much more professional sound than from condenser mics that records in circular radius capturing more than want. Every mic has its purpose, the shotgun mic seems to be very favorable.
Sima MZM-1 Shotgun $30
audio-discounters.com/mzm-1...
The audio is just as, if not more, important than the video. What is the point of watching a video if you can not understand the audio? The question then is, "How do I get good audio?" There is only one answer - USE AN EXTERNAL MICROPHONE! The built-in microphone that comes equipped with most camcorders will generally fall far short of your requirements.
The MZM-1 is small but powerful. This super compact mighty mic zooms in to pinpoint audio sources for improved audio quality. Picks up conversations, speeches, nature sounds and more. Stylish and high quality - it's a top performer.
Specifications
Frequency response: 100 -10KHz
Impedance: Low impedance
Settings: Normal and Zoom
Effective Output level:
Normal: -66dB +/- 3dB unbalanced
Zoom: -79dB +/- 3dB unbalanced
Microphone range: 80 dB
Power requirement: One AAA battery (not incl.)
Power consumption: 2 mA
Battery life: 300 hours
Dimensions: 4.5" (L) x 1.5" (W) x 1.5"
Mount: Sound-isolating rubber shoe mount minimizes camera noise.
Piero Foto (04/07/2007)
Hi again, Harris.
Tip:
You should not mount mics directly on camcorders, they will get much better results mounting it off a camcorder. The Elura 100 does not have a shoe mount and it was intended that way for that specific reason. This what I recommend:
To mount your external mic or an external light when needed, just get a camcorder accessory cold shoe mount bracket, they cost starting from $10. Bescor VB-50 this is a good bracket, it has two cold shoe mounts, a hand grip and its also designed to not interfere with your LCD screen when opened. The hand grip will give you some extra handling control.
These are some of the problems you would encounter if using a camcorder shoe mount.
1) If an external microphone is mounted directly on the camcorder, you are going to record allot of unwanted sounds and noises like your hands fumbling around the controls and even picking up sounds from the camcorder motors. The mic needs to be mounted at least 6 inches away from the camcorder.
2) If an external video light is mount directly on the camcorder, you are increasing your chances of getting the red eye effect because the light is to close in alignment with the lens and if you are using conversion lenses with the video light mounted on the camcorder, you will also get shadows caused by the protruding lens that blocks some of the source. The video light also needs to mounted at least 6-8 inches away from camcorder, this will result in better contrast as well as reducing blow outs from glare.
Bescor VB-50 Universal Shoe Mount Adapter. Bracket Attaches To Bottom Screw Mount. Has 2 Shoe Mounts $10
bhphotovideo.com/bnh/contro...
OR
Canon SA-1 Shoe Adapter Bracket, - for Camcorders without Accessory Shoe $40
bhphotovideo.com/bnh/contro...
Happy Shopping!
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Tip:
You should not mount mics directly on camcorders, they will get much better results mounting it off a camcorder. The Elura 100 does not have a shoe mount and it was intended that way for that specific reason. This what I recommend:
To mount your external mic or an external light when needed, just get a camcorder accessory cold shoe mount bracket, they cost starting from $10. Bescor VB-50 this is a good bracket, it has two cold shoe mounts, a hand grip and its also designed to not interfere with your LCD screen when opened. The hand grip will give you some extra handling control.
These are some of the problems you would encounter if using a camcorder shoe mount.
1) If an external microphone is mounted directly on the camcorder, you are going to record allot of unwanted sounds and noises like your hands fumbling around the controls and even picking up sounds from the camcorder motors. The mic needs to be mounted at least 6 inches away from the camcorder.
2) If an external video light is mount directly on the camcorder, you are increasing your chances of getting the red eye effect because the light is to close in alignment with the lens and if you are using conversion lenses with the video light mounted on the camcorder, you will also get shadows caused by the protruding lens that blocks some of the source. The video light also needs to mounted at least 6-8 inches away from camcorder, this will result in better contrast as well as reducing blow outs from glare.
Bescor VB-50 Universal Shoe Mount Adapter. Bracket Attaches To Bottom Screw Mount. Has 2 Shoe Mounts $10
bhphotovideo.com/bnh/contro...
OR
Canon SA-1 Shoe Adapter Bracket, - for Camcorders without Accessory Shoe $40
bhphotovideo.com/bnh/contro...
Happy Shopping!
Piero Foto (04/07/2007)
Harris.
Keep in mind that 16bit audio selection is a good choice for professional quality and sound editing over 8bit. The Elura 100 does have those options.
Happy Shooting!
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Keep in mind that 16bit audio selection is a good choice for professional quality and sound editing over 8bit. The Elura 100 does have those options.
Happy Shooting!
Piero Foto (04/08/2007)
Thanks!, Harris.
Microphones:
tecnec.com/attachments/tnca...
Mic external condenser mic. Technica $35
amazon.com/Audio-Technica-A...
Technica audio Products:
amazon.com/s/ref=sr_pg_3/00...
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Microphones:
tecnec.com/attachments/tnca...
Mic external condenser mic. Technica $35
amazon.com/Audio-Technica-A...
Technica audio Products:
amazon.com/s/ref=sr_pg_3/00...
transferring analog VHS tapes to my computer through my Canon Elura 100 (jveale — 04/25/2007)
How can I eliminate the hours minutes and seconds as well as tape speed SP from showing up on my digital copy There seems to be no trouble converting from analog to digital but I end up with the above information as it shows up on my camera screen when making the transfer into the computer and I can't seem to find anything on this in my manual
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Piero Foto (04/25/2007)
Hey, John.
If you have originally and permanently recorded your video with date, time or any display settings on your VHS tape, then it will transfer the way you recorded it.
If you have the option on your VHS player or camcorder to select and turn off the display settings, then it should tranfer and record with out it.
If your video VHS footage was never recorded that way but you only see that on your transferred copy on your computer, then it might be a viewing option in your computer DVD editing or playback software, but I would try first recording your transferred video from your computer to the Elura on miniDV tape and play it back to your TV to see if its really still there and if it actually recoded it that way. Also try making a DVD copy, then Play it in your computer DVD player and on your DVD player for TV to see if it recorded that way.
Last thing you can also try is checking your option menu in the Elura's screen display functions and your instruction manual for "analog to digital pass through" instructions.
I hope this response can shed some light for a solution. Personally, this is the first I have heard of it and it just might be a very simple issue.
Good Luck!
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If you have originally and permanently recorded your video with date, time or any display settings on your VHS tape, then it will transfer the way you recorded it.
If you have the option on your VHS player or camcorder to select and turn off the display settings, then it should tranfer and record with out it.
If your video VHS footage was never recorded that way but you only see that on your transferred copy on your computer, then it might be a viewing option in your computer DVD editing or playback software, but I would try first recording your transferred video from your computer to the Elura on miniDV tape and play it back to your TV to see if its really still there and if it actually recoded it that way. Also try making a DVD copy, then Play it in your computer DVD player and on your DVD player for TV to see if it recorded that way.
Last thing you can also try is checking your option menu in the Elura's screen display functions and your instruction manual for "analog to digital pass through" instructions.
I hope this response can shed some light for a solution. Personally, this is the first I have heard of it and it just might be a very simple issue.
Good Luck!
jveale (04/25/2007)
Thanks Piero. I think perhaps my question may not have been phrased correctly as your answer while good, does not really address the problem. To rephrase it, the time readout I am getting on the finished product copies the menu-type information given on my camera screen. The original VHS tape has no written material on it whatever. It seems that when being converted in my camera, it takes on the code information on the camera screen. I hope that clarifies it. I can go into my camera menu but can't seem to find a way of clearing the screen of information. Some of the screen info does not transfer to the converted product, while the time and SF does. It may be obvious...but I'm pretty new to camcorders as well, so I hope this is not too elementary a question!
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Piero Foto (04/27/2007)
Hi, John.
If you haven't yet, try looking in your manual on page 64, under display set up. There is on/off selection for TV screen. Also you can try Canon tech support, it may "sometimes" help.
For toll-free technical support, please call 1 (800) 828-4040 during regular business hours (currently Monday-Friday 8:00 a.m. - 12:00 midnight. EST, Saturday 10:00 a.m. - 8:00 p.m., excluding holidays).
usa.canon.com/consumer/cont...
Here is a way to another approach which could work. I know that when I transfer my video from the Elura to computer, it does not physically tag any time codes on the video image. See if there a way to pass through your analog video to your computer without recording it on tape, then transfer it to DVD or back to your Elura on miniDV tape.
I hope this helps.
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If you haven't yet, try looking in your manual on page 64, under display set up. There is on/off selection for TV screen. Also you can try Canon tech support, it may "sometimes" help.
For toll-free technical support, please call 1 (800) 828-4040 during regular business hours (currently Monday-Friday 8:00 a.m. - 12:00 midnight. EST, Saturday 10:00 a.m. - 8:00 p.m., excluding holidays).
usa.canon.com/consumer/cont...
Here is a way to another approach which could work. I know that when I transfer my video from the Elura to computer, it does not physically tag any time codes on the video image. See if there a way to pass through your analog video to your computer without recording it on tape, then transfer it to DVD or back to your Elura on miniDV tape.
I hope this helps.
jveale (04/27/2007)
Thanks again Piero. I have tried turning the display off but for some reason it does not seem to do so. I may as you suggest call Canon help and see what they can come up with. At the moment however we have guests and limited time so it may be a few days before I can get at the problem again.
Thanks for your efforts! I will keep you posted.
John
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Thanks for your efforts! I will keep you posted.
John
Piero Foto (04/28/2007)
Hey, John.
I have personally just tested my "Analog to digital pass through", VHS to miniDV tape and I do not get any recorded screen info on the transferred video when playing it back. So, this proves that the Elura is capable of not recording any time code, date, tape speed, or anything else on the video image transfer. In fact, as I think about it, in a question about a few months ago, it was determined that the Elura 100 was not even capable of recording any screen info directly on the video image itself. The screen info just some how tags itself to the video and only shows up when you select it to see it.
So, even though you may be seeing the screen display info on the LCD screen on the camcorder, the screen display clears itself when you play the transferred video back to a TV or your computer by selecting TV Screen to "off", have you tried this. Make sure that there are no selected screen displays selected as "on" from your VHS player when transferring.
In my last response, I have mentioned that there are settings in your menu to select the TV Screen "off".
Instructions:
Your Elura must be on playback mode, then select the function button, then scroll down with the joy stick to menu and select it by pressing the joy stick. At this point scroll down twice to "Display Setup", and then scroll right, then scroll one down to TV screen and select it by pushing the joystick. You will then have the option to select the TV screen to "off", and then exit by pushing the function button. By turning the TV screen off, there should not be any type of screen info displayed on your transferred video when playing it back on your TV, it may show on your LCD screen on your camcorder, but its not recorded on tape.
I hope this answers your question.
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I have personally just tested my "Analog to digital pass through", VHS to miniDV tape and I do not get any recorded screen info on the transferred video when playing it back. So, this proves that the Elura is capable of not recording any time code, date, tape speed, or anything else on the video image transfer. In fact, as I think about it, in a question about a few months ago, it was determined that the Elura 100 was not even capable of recording any screen info directly on the video image itself. The screen info just some how tags itself to the video and only shows up when you select it to see it.
So, even though you may be seeing the screen display info on the LCD screen on the camcorder, the screen display clears itself when you play the transferred video back to a TV or your computer by selecting TV Screen to "off", have you tried this. Make sure that there are no selected screen displays selected as "on" from your VHS player when transferring.
In my last response, I have mentioned that there are settings in your menu to select the TV Screen "off".
Instructions:
Your Elura must be on playback mode, then select the function button, then scroll down with the joy stick to menu and select it by pressing the joy stick. At this point scroll down twice to "Display Setup", and then scroll right, then scroll one down to TV screen and select it by pushing the joystick. You will then have the option to select the TV screen to "off", and then exit by pushing the function button. By turning the TV screen off, there should not be any type of screen info displayed on your transferred video when playing it back on your TV, it may show on your LCD screen on your camcorder, but its not recorded on tape.
I hope this answers your question.
jveale (05/02/2007)
Thanks again Piero and my apologies for the delay in reacting to your last post. Bingo....problem solved with the combination of your replies. I didn't have too many points in the bank with which to reward you, but a big thank you for taking the time to help. Now it is onward with the show!
John
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John
Piero Foto (05/03/2007)
You are welcome, John.
I am glad to help. If you find any of the responses helpful, just click the thumbs at the bottom of each.
Happy Film Making!
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I am glad to help. If you find any of the responses helpful, just click the thumbs at the bottom of each.
Happy Film Making!
megapixels or optical zoom , which one is more important for vedio result? (svillazh — 05/06/2007)
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Piero Foto (05/07/2007)
Hi, svilla.
You can always increase the camcorders optical zoom ratio, but you can never increase the camcorders video resolution/megapixels.
Generally, camcorders with less than 12X optical usually produces the best video quality. To get the best of both worlds, its better to get a higher resolution camcorder and add conversions lenses to increase the optical zoom ratio than the other way around. Also, the higher video resolution/megapixels will make a greater difference in making higher quality DVDs.
I Strongly recommend a higher resolution/megapixels for camcorders that record in an video MPEG format.
Happy Shopping!
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You can always increase the camcorders optical zoom ratio, but you can never increase the camcorders video resolution/megapixels.
Generally, camcorders with less than 12X optical usually produces the best video quality. To get the best of both worlds, its better to get a higher resolution camcorder and add conversions lenses to increase the optical zoom ratio than the other way around. Also, the higher video resolution/megapixels will make a greater difference in making higher quality DVDs.
I Strongly recommend a higher resolution/megapixels for camcorders that record in an video MPEG format.
Happy Shopping!
best microphone for Canon Elura 100 (patrowen — 05/17/2007)
I am doing a video of two people giving a tour of a neighborhood. What kind of microphone should I buy?
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Piero Foto (05/18/2007)
Hey, Pat.
The best audio set-up for your situation described is a wireless mic system. With a wireless mic system you will be able to keep your distance with your subjects as they can walk around freely without any hazardous risks of wires, in addition, this system will also allow you to pan establishing shots of neighborhoods in the distance and then zoom in on your subjects or vice-verse while they are talking throughout the video footage.
A wireless audio mic system is available in many brands, quality, and sets to suit your needs. Some wireless sets allow you to use an average of four wireless mics on one system, plus there are choices of Lavaliere mics, and hand held mics. The Lavaliere mics clip to a lapel/collar on your subjects with the transmitter clipped to the waist belt or placed in pocket. The wireless mic is good for your main subject when they conduct interviews for flexability of directing the mic towards another person for a verbal responses.
There are different models of wireless systems, some are made for better distance and more reliable signal strength. You should base the signal strength required by at least doubling the distance you actually need to be more reassuring in covering you for better signal transmission. On the average, a good wireless system can record audio sound as far as two football Fields in distance.
Here a few wireless systems that are available on the market. Some reviews have not been the best for Nady and Sony models, they would be considered more of a toy. Azden seems to be very good brand in wireless mics, they are taken more seriously.
Wireless camcorder Microphones:
nextag.com/wireless-camcord...
This site here is very good for advanced/pro videographers.
The "VideoGuys.com"
videoguys.com/azden.htm
Happy Shopping!
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The best audio set-up for your situation described is a wireless mic system. With a wireless mic system you will be able to keep your distance with your subjects as they can walk around freely without any hazardous risks of wires, in addition, this system will also allow you to pan establishing shots of neighborhoods in the distance and then zoom in on your subjects or vice-verse while they are talking throughout the video footage.
A wireless audio mic system is available in many brands, quality, and sets to suit your needs. Some wireless sets allow you to use an average of four wireless mics on one system, plus there are choices of Lavaliere mics, and hand held mics. The Lavaliere mics clip to a lapel/collar on your subjects with the transmitter clipped to the waist belt or placed in pocket. The wireless mic is good for your main subject when they conduct interviews for flexability of directing the mic towards another person for a verbal responses.
There are different models of wireless systems, some are made for better distance and more reliable signal strength. You should base the signal strength required by at least doubling the distance you actually need to be more reassuring in covering you for better signal transmission. On the average, a good wireless system can record audio sound as far as two football Fields in distance.
Here a few wireless systems that are available on the market. Some reviews have not been the best for Nady and Sony models, they would be considered more of a toy. Azden seems to be very good brand in wireless mics, they are taken more seriously.
Wireless camcorder Microphones:
nextag.com/wireless-camcord...
This site here is very good for advanced/pro videographers.
The "VideoGuys.com"
videoguys.com/azden.htm
Happy Shopping!
Piero Foto (05/18/2007)
Pat.
Hey, Mike.
Camcorders like the Elura 100 without an accessory shoe mount can originally be disappointing, BUTTT, after purchasing an accessory shoe mount camcorder bracket, it all made good professional sense to me why Canon and others had intentionally left out the shoe mount on cams with external audio mic recording. An external mic should never be directly mounted on the DV camera and always mounted off the camcorder so it can avoid picking-up any unwanted noises from the camcorder itself and noises from your hand working the controls, in addition, It will support a wireless receiver nicely. The accessory shoe mount bracket also allows you add an external light around 6-8 inches away from the DV cam lens so you do not get shadows from your conversion lenses and eliminates the possibility of any red eye effect from the light being to close in alignment with the lens.
Here are a couple of accessory shoemount brackets. I have personally tried the Bescor which has two cold shoe mounts to support a mic/wireless receiver and light at the same time, and the bracket itself does give better cam handling. The Bescor is also designed to be reversable for right and left handed and can be operated with the LCD screen open. It can be used on and off the tripod. You can't beat te price!
Bescor VB-50 Universal Shoe Mount Adapter. Bracket Attaches To Bottom Screw Mount. Has 2 Shoe Mounts $10
bhphotovideo.com/bnh/contro...
Canon SA-1 Shoe Adapter Bracket, - for Camcorders without Accessory Shoe $40
bhphotovideo.com/bnh/contro...
Happy Shooting!
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Hey, Mike.
Camcorders like the Elura 100 without an accessory shoe mount can originally be disappointing, BUTTT, after purchasing an accessory shoe mount camcorder bracket, it all made good professional sense to me why Canon and others had intentionally left out the shoe mount on cams with external audio mic recording. An external mic should never be directly mounted on the DV camera and always mounted off the camcorder so it can avoid picking-up any unwanted noises from the camcorder itself and noises from your hand working the controls, in addition, It will support a wireless receiver nicely. The accessory shoe mount bracket also allows you add an external light around 6-8 inches away from the DV cam lens so you do not get shadows from your conversion lenses and eliminates the possibility of any red eye effect from the light being to close in alignment with the lens.
Here are a couple of accessory shoemount brackets. I have personally tried the Bescor which has two cold shoe mounts to support a mic/wireless receiver and light at the same time, and the bracket itself does give better cam handling. The Bescor is also designed to be reversable for right and left handed and can be operated with the LCD screen open. It can be used on and off the tripod. You can't beat te price!
Bescor VB-50 Universal Shoe Mount Adapter. Bracket Attaches To Bottom Screw Mount. Has 2 Shoe Mounts $10
bhphotovideo.com/bnh/contro...
Canon SA-1 Shoe Adapter Bracket, - for Camcorders without Accessory Shoe $40
bhphotovideo.com/bnh/contro...
Happy Shooting!
Is this a good camera to shoot a documentary with the elura 100 for a low budget (ty247 — 05/24/2007)
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Piero Foto (05/24/2007)
Yes, the Elura 100 will do the job, its one of the best allaround mid-range camcorders ever made.
There are two issues to consider:
First, the Elura 100 has been sold out of production about a few months ago, but you can still get one as refurbished. The refurb are repackaged by Canon and sold to dealers for resale with factory warranty, they are actually new. I own two Elura 100s and one is a refurb, there is no difference.
Secondly, if you are shooting documentaries for high-end broadcast, I would recommend at least the Canon HV20, or the Panasonic GS500 in consumer camcorders. When I playback my Elura 100 video footage on a big screen HD TV and I am impressed in the quality, but commercially, I would recommend the other camcorders.
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There are two issues to consider:
First, the Elura 100 has been sold out of production about a few months ago, but you can still get one as refurbished. The refurb are repackaged by Canon and sold to dealers for resale with factory warranty, they are actually new. I own two Elura 100s and one is a refurb, there is no difference.
Secondly, if you are shooting documentaries for high-end broadcast, I would recommend at least the Canon HV20, or the Panasonic GS500 in consumer camcorders. When I playback my Elura 100 video footage on a big screen HD TV and I am impressed in the quality, but commercially, I would recommend the other camcorders.
Replacing my stolen Elura 100 (EMedinaJr07 — 05/28/2007)
My Elura 100, which I bought last year sometime to replace my aging workhose ZR10 (the first of the horizontal ZR series) was stolen on my b-day (May 19) in church, of all places! I still have an extra battery and all the accessories so would like to stay with it, but I'm dismayed to read that it's out of production now. I've been reading the recommendations for the ZR700 (ext. mic input is VERY important to me; also top loading--does the ZR700 top load or bottomload like my ZR10?)
Also, I doubt it uses the same style of batter, though I I liked being able to use the same batteries from my Digital Rebel for the ZR10. Finally, the HV20 is calling my name...like that 24fps option.
If I can't get a Elura 100 anymore, that'll push me towards the HV20, though I'll have to check out the ZR700. Bottomloading will push me further to the HV20! LOL! However my Eiwa bag fits both my ZR10 and it did my Elura, so I imagine it'll fit the ZR700.
What to do????
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Also, I doubt it uses the same style of batter, though I I liked being able to use the same batteries from my Digital Rebel for the ZR10. Finally, the HV20 is calling my name...like that 24fps option.
If I can't get a Elura 100 anymore, that'll push me towards the HV20, though I'll have to check out the ZR700. Bottomloading will push me further to the HV20! LOL! However my Eiwa bag fits both my ZR10 and it did my Elura, so I imagine it'll fit the ZR700.
What to do????
Piero Foto (05/28/2007)
Hey, Ernie.
Well, You have just about made your own decision it looks like.
If you have owned and used an Elura 100, you will not be happy with the ZR700 or any of the ZR line. If you still like the Elura 100, I would strongly recommend a refurb. I own two Eluras my self, one is a refurb and there is no difference from new. Canon themselves repackages open box items and re-sells them to dealers with warranty. An extended warranty is also optional on refurbs just like the new ones. The HV20 is a whole different breed and its own class, its undisputed.
Happy Shopping!
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Well, You have just about made your own decision it looks like.
If you have owned and used an Elura 100, you will not be happy with the ZR700 or any of the ZR line. If you still like the Elura 100, I would strongly recommend a refurb. I own two Eluras my self, one is a refurb and there is no difference from new. Canon themselves repackages open box items and re-sells them to dealers with warranty. An extended warranty is also optional on refurbs just like the new ones. The HV20 is a whole different breed and its own class, its undisputed.
Happy Shopping!
Piero Foto (05/28/2007)
Ernie.
MiniDV camcorders will be the best to interact with computers, so I am going to recommend a few camcorders that will work efficient with downloading, editing and easy to convert for web or to make DVDs.
The miniDV tape camcorders I am recommending records without an MPEG file for easy downloading without converting the video file, and also with an external mic option for better audio sound control and quality. Plus, camcorders that have a number of manual features for better picture control.
BEST CHOICES:
Sony HC46, Sony HC96: (PC computers only)
The HC46 would be considered a good mid-range video quality camcorder and will be more than enough internet video. The HC96 would fall into the mid-high end camcorders offering an excellent video picture which will also give you a high quality picture resolution to look great on large screen TVs.
Canon ZR700, Canon ZR850: (Mac and PC)
These two camcorders will get the job done with offering a decent video picture and many features for the demanding entry level videographer. The ZR700, and the ZR850 would be an excellent choice for very inexpensive camcorders.
Panasonic GS320, GS500: (Mac and PC)
The GS320 is a 3-CCD camcorder producing an excellent video picture for a mid-range cam. However, its limited with manual controls and it does not have an external mic option. So if you are looking more for an automated point-and-shoot cam, and have no concern of using an external mic, then the Panasonic GS320 would a very good choice of mid-range camcorders. The GS500 is considered to have one of the highest quality in Standard Definition video. Its also a 3-CCD image sensor camcorder with tons of functions and features to satisfy even the most demanding advanced videographers.
Canon HV20: (Mac & PC)
Undisputed King of the Hill. A great camcorder that records in SD and HD video, the best of both worlds on miniDV tape. Very high quality consumer camcorder in high definition. You have the option to record in HD and play direct to your HD TV, or you can edit your HD footage in SD video to make it easier to work with on your computer and DVDs.
Happy Shopping!
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MiniDV camcorders will be the best to interact with computers, so I am going to recommend a few camcorders that will work efficient with downloading, editing and easy to convert for web or to make DVDs.
The miniDV tape camcorders I am recommending records without an MPEG file for easy downloading without converting the video file, and also with an external mic option for better audio sound control and quality. Plus, camcorders that have a number of manual features for better picture control.
BEST CHOICES:
Sony HC46, Sony HC96: (PC computers only)
The HC46 would be considered a good mid-range video quality camcorder and will be more than enough internet video. The HC96 would fall into the mid-high end camcorders offering an excellent video picture which will also give you a high quality picture resolution to look great on large screen TVs.
Canon ZR700, Canon ZR850: (Mac and PC)
These two camcorders will get the job done with offering a decent video picture and many features for the demanding entry level videographer. The ZR700, and the ZR850 would be an excellent choice for very inexpensive camcorders.
Panasonic GS320, GS500: (Mac and PC)
The GS320 is a 3-CCD camcorder producing an excellent video picture for a mid-range cam. However, its limited with manual controls and it does not have an external mic option. So if you are looking more for an automated point-and-shoot cam, and have no concern of using an external mic, then the Panasonic GS320 would a very good choice of mid-range camcorders. The GS500 is considered to have one of the highest quality in Standard Definition video. Its also a 3-CCD image sensor camcorder with tons of functions and features to satisfy even the most demanding advanced videographers.
Canon HV20: (Mac & PC)
Undisputed King of the Hill. A great camcorder that records in SD and HD video, the best of both worlds on miniDV tape. Very high quality consumer camcorder in high definition. You have the option to record in HD and play direct to your HD TV, or you can edit your HD footage in SD video to make it easier to work with on your computer and DVDs.
Happy Shopping!
EMedinaJr07 (05/28/2007)
Ok, thanks! I'll check and see where I can get a refurb. Appreciate the eval on the ZR700 for my case.
Ernie
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Ernie
EMedinaJr07 (05/28/2007)
PS. Thx for the suggestions. I'm definitely a Canon dude, so will stick with them. I also have done some light iMovie editing on my Powerbook and iMac so definitely am sticking to miniDVD for now. (No MPEG for me! LOL!).
If I can't find a refurb, then I'll pay the extra and go with the HV20 since I'm very interested in all of it's features, evne the 24 fps mode. I don't have a HD TV but I guess it can't hurt to go with a higher resoltion camera.
Thanks!
Ernie
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If I can't find a refurb, then I'll pay the extra and go with the HV20 since I'm very interested in all of it's features, evne the 24 fps mode. I don't have a HD TV but I guess it can't hurt to go with a higher resoltion camera.
Thanks!
Ernie
Piero Foto (05/28/2007)
Ernie.
Call to see if they have any more refurb.
Prestige Camera
800-432-2180
Canon Elura 100 (Refurbished), Minidv Digital Camcorder
HV20:
prestigecamera.com/product~...
I talked to them personally myself and they seem to be straight up. They also offer extended warranty.
Here is a iMovie to Final Cut editing software Demo:
This will help give you an idea with your editing software.
apple.com/finalcutexpress/q...
I am glad to help and hope this concludes your question. You can still select best ansewer and continue the thread.
Thanks, and Happy shopping!
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Call to see if they have any more refurb.
Prestige Camera
800-432-2180
Canon Elura 100 (Refurbished), Minidv Digital Camcorder
HV20:
prestigecamera.com/product~...
I talked to them personally myself and they seem to be straight up. They also offer extended warranty.
Here is a iMovie to Final Cut editing software Demo:
This will help give you an idea with your editing software.
apple.com/finalcutexpress/q...
I am glad to help and hope this concludes your question. You can still select best ansewer and continue the thread.
Thanks, and Happy shopping!
Piero Foto (05/28/2007)
Ernie.
Elura 100 refurb:
cameraaddict.com/product.as...
ecrater.com/product.php?pid...
cameras.pricegrabber.com/ca...
Be sure to check online retailer ratings before buying.
resellerratings.com/store/B...
resellerratings.com/
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Elura 100 refurb:
cameraaddict.com/product.as...
ecrater.com/product.php?pid...
cameras.pricegrabber.com/ca...
Be sure to check online retailer ratings before buying.
resellerratings.com/store/B...
resellerratings.com/
Can Elura 100 transfer ANALOG to DIGITAL video signals? (jeflemingjr — 05/30/2007)
I want to transfer old VHS tapes into a Digital Video format? Can I input audio and video from a VHS tape player (Red, White & Yellow RCA type cables) into the Alura 100, and get a DIGITAL version of my VHS recorded video?
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by James DeRuvo (05/30/2007)
Absolutely. It has an analog to digital pass through (which is a standard feature now on most Canon camcorders). All you need to do is daisy chain from the VHS, though your Elura and then plug it in via firewire to your PC for capturing (or, you can simply record them on miniDV tape through the camera). Understand, however, that you won't be able to control the VCR with your capture software, so you'll have to hit the play button and click capture, but it can certainly be accomplished. I've done it many times.
For capturing, I recommend a tiny application called WinDV for PC, or use iMovie for the MAC.
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For capturing, I recommend a tiny application called WinDV for PC, or use iMovie for the MAC.
Piero Foto (05/31/2007)
Hey, Joe.
In addition to James response, the Elura 100 comes with an AV cable which has an 1/8" single pin jack on one end, and red, white, and yellow RCA jacks on the other end that plugs directly into your VHS player. The Elura 100 must be on VTR(playback) mode to record the video footage from the VHS player. The "analog to digital pass through" is activated in the menu selection. If you are not sure how to do this, just follow the instructions in your manual.
Once your analog video has been transferred and converted to digital on miniDV tape, you can either keep it stored on tape or download it to your computer for editing and making DVDs. In addition, you can transfer your editied version back to miniDV tape without video compression so that you can play it back directly to TV without loosing any picture quality, miniDV tape hold more data and produces a much higher video quality than standard DVD.
Have fun with the Elura!
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In addition to James response, the Elura 100 comes with an AV cable which has an 1/8" single pin jack on one end, and red, white, and yellow RCA jacks on the other end that plugs directly into your VHS player. The Elura 100 must be on VTR(playback) mode to record the video footage from the VHS player. The "analog to digital pass through" is activated in the menu selection. If you are not sure how to do this, just follow the instructions in your manual.
Once your analog video has been transferred and converted to digital on miniDV tape, you can either keep it stored on tape or download it to your computer for editing and making DVDs. In addition, you can transfer your editied version back to miniDV tape without video compression so that you can play it back directly to TV without loosing any picture quality, miniDV tape hold more data and produces a much higher video quality than standard DVD.
Have fun with the Elura!
jeflemingjr (05/31/2007)
Many thanks to James DeRuvo and Piero Foto, too. THANK YOU for sharing your time and expertise. It's greatly appreciated.
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by James DeRuvo (05/31/2007)
One thing, though, Piero. The quality of that cable isn't really going to be stellar. In fact, it's pretty cheap. If one is going through the analog cable route, I'd recommend investing in a higher quality cable. It really can make a difference in the video image using a more shielded variant as opposed to one they just tossed in for free.
And considering it's VHS, you want to preserve as much of the image signal as you can.
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And considering it's VHS, you want to preserve as much of the image signal as you can.
Piero Foto (05/31/2007)
That is correct and without saying James. Cables can really become a topic on their own. Most consumers usually fall short when it comes to buying good quality cables, even with knowing the difference.
Here you go Joe,
cables.com/
Happy Shopping!
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Here you go Joe,
cables.com/
Happy Shopping!
by James DeRuvo (06/04/2007)
Absolutely. I would rather the camera companies just stop including them. That way it would force people to buy better cables.
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I want to transfer film from SONY HANDYCAM CCD-TR55 tapes into a CD or DVD. Can I input audio and video from that Camcorder tape player (Red, White & (stevesanusi — 06/09/2007)
That audio and video from Sony Handycam CCD-TR 55, I had made since 1990.
I want to put that recording to CD as an documentation.
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I want to put that recording to CD as an documentation.
Piero Foto (06/09/2007)
Hey, Steve.
Since you posted your question in the Elura 100 page, I am going to take it that you also either own or are interested in the Elura 100 to transfer your video from your Sony TR55.
Yes, you can transfer analog video from a VCR or camcorder through the Elura 100. The Elura manual shows you how to connect the analog to digital pass through.
Just use the AV cable with mini jack on one end to the Elura, and the RCA red, white, and yellow on the other end to your Sony. If you can't plug the RCA jacks into the Sony, then you can connect the Sony cam and play it back through your VCR, and plug your VCR to your Elura 100. The Elura will need to be set on VTR(playback) mode, and then the analog to digital pass through will need to be selected and activated through playback menu.
You can transfer first to miniDV tape, then to your computer, or I believe you can connect the Elura to your computer at the same time and download it direct to your hard drive while plying back your Sony.
Keep-in-mind, that you will need to have some type of movie editing software installed to recognize your cam(Elura) for downloading video to your hard drive on your computer. Once you have downloaded your video footage to your computer, you then can edit, and export it to your DVD/CD burner. In general, camcorder software cannot be used and is usally usless for video downloading. In addition, the Elura normally connects via firewire cable to Mac, and it should be USB for PC. If the USB connection from the Elura to your PC does not download, you need to connect it via firewire. If you don't have firewire connection on your PC, then buy and install a firewire(1394) card in your computer.
Happy Transferring!
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Since you posted your question in the Elura 100 page, I am going to take it that you also either own or are interested in the Elura 100 to transfer your video from your Sony TR55.
Yes, you can transfer analog video from a VCR or camcorder through the Elura 100. The Elura manual shows you how to connect the analog to digital pass through.
Just use the AV cable with mini jack on one end to the Elura, and the RCA red, white, and yellow on the other end to your Sony. If you can't plug the RCA jacks into the Sony, then you can connect the Sony cam and play it back through your VCR, and plug your VCR to your Elura 100. The Elura will need to be set on VTR(playback) mode, and then the analog to digital pass through will need to be selected and activated through playback menu.
You can transfer first to miniDV tape, then to your computer, or I believe you can connect the Elura to your computer at the same time and download it direct to your hard drive while plying back your Sony.
Keep-in-mind, that you will need to have some type of movie editing software installed to recognize your cam(Elura) for downloading video to your hard drive on your computer. Once you have downloaded your video footage to your computer, you then can edit, and export it to your DVD/CD burner. In general, camcorder software cannot be used and is usally usless for video downloading. In addition, the Elura normally connects via firewire cable to Mac, and it should be USB for PC. If the USB connection from the Elura to your PC does not download, you need to connect it via firewire. If you don't have firewire connection on your PC, then buy and install a firewire(1394) card in your computer.
Happy Transferring!
Piero Foto (06/11/2007)
Steve.
Is there any further advice you require, or has your question been misunderstood. You can reply in the reply box below or select best answer. We will be happy to respond.
Thanks!
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Is there any further advice you require, or has your question been misunderstood. You can reply in the reply box below or select best answer. We will be happy to respond.
Thanks!
Steve Sanusi (06/11/2007)
Piero,
My dream had come true.
Yes, since the last 90's I was thought how to realize "my project".
And, .... I am happy now. I can see the DVD after I followed you assistance
Thank you very much.
God Bless You.
Steve
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My dream had come true.
Yes, since the last 90's I was thought how to realize "my project".
And, .... I am happy now. I can see the DVD after I followed you assistance
Thank you very much.
God Bless You.
Steve
Piero Foto (06/11/2007)
That's great, Steve.
I am happy to help and that it worked out for you.
If that concludes your question and camcorder issues, then please select best answer so that other consumers can find this thread in the answered question section and benefit from this same solution as you did.
Happy movie making!
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I am happy to help and that it worked out for you.
If that concludes your question and camcorder issues, then please select best answer so that other consumers can find this thread in the answered question section and benefit from this same solution as you did.
Happy movie making!
Piero Foto (06/14/2007)
Steve.
Is there any reason why you have not selected best answer yet. I have also noticed you have not even selected any responses to be helpful. What else do you need to know to conclude your question.
You can reply in the if you need any further advice or pick the best answer.
Thanks!
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Is there any reason why you have not selected best answer yet. I have also noticed you have not even selected any responses to be helpful. What else do you need to know to conclude your question.
You can reply in the if you need any further advice or pick the best answer.
Thanks!
Camera doesn't detect in WindowsXP (danielhw — 06/11/2007)
I hooked up the camera using a firewire cable (just regular cable, that fits into the connection, I'm assuming that is the correct type?). WindowsXP doesn't give any indication that it detects the camera (should it? This is my first firewire type of device so I have nothing else to test with or experience in firewire, I'm used to USB). I've tried the program (downloadble from VCDHelp site) WinDV, and it doesn't list the canon camera (I read that was a recommended way to transfer).
How do I get the video transfered from the FireWire? The manual has somewhere less than unhelpful information about this. I know I have to be in playback mode, and when I do plug in the cable the camera flashes "DV IN" (that AV-DV is off, with it on I only get a constant "AV DV"). When the cable is unplugged the "DV IN" goes away, so at leas the camera appears to be detecting the connection.
What is the best way to transfer this? Also, I've tried the "record to SD card" method, but the picture looked a little darker than expected and didn't appear to be as clear quality as it looks in the LCD on playback mode. Has anyone else seen this too?
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How do I get the video transfered from the FireWire? The manual has somewhere less than unhelpful information about this. I know I have to be in playback mode, and when I do plug in the cable the camera flashes "DV IN" (that AV-DV is off, with it on I only get a constant "AV DV"). When the cable is unplugged the "DV IN" goes away, so at leas the camera appears to be detecting the connection.
What is the best way to transfer this? Also, I've tried the "record to SD card" method, but the picture looked a little darker than expected and didn't appear to be as clear quality as it looks in the LCD on playback mode. Has anyone else seen this too?
by James DeRuvo (06/12/2007)
First, use the AC adapter when doing this. Secondly, you don't require any drivers to connect and download to the PC, so it seems to me that you're problem is on the PC end and not the camera. I'd check your device manager to see if there's a yellow/black "!" mark next to your firewire devices. You may have a conflict or a corrupted driver there. Look for an update.
Run anti-spyware and avs to clean up your PC. Couldn't hurt and you should be doing that anyway.
Suggestions by the Canon website:
Disconnect and reconnect the cable to ensure a secure connection between the camcorder and computer
Disconnect any other device and reboot computer
Remove device from Device Manager, and reassociate driver with camcorder
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Run anti-spyware and avs to clean up your PC. Couldn't hurt and you should be doing that anyway.
Suggestions by the Canon website:
Disconnect and reconnect the cable to ensure a secure connection between the camcorder and computer
Disconnect any other device and reboot computer
Remove device from Device Manager, and reassociate driver with camcorder
danielhw (06/12/2007)
The FireWire device is functioning properly, nothing has conflicts. The system is clean so that's not the issue either.
When Windows recognized the camera, how do I confirm that it has been recognized? Where do I see the camera at? Will it show up as an extra drive?
How do I copy the files from the miniDV tape? Are they listed just like a regular external drive or does the camera send them to the PC (& PC is prompted to copy from, similar to when hooking up an external drive & getting the prompt to "view pictures, movies, contents of folders, do nothing").
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When Windows recognized the camera, how do I confirm that it has been recognized? Where do I see the camera at? Will it show up as an extra drive?
How do I copy the files from the miniDV tape? Are they listed just like a regular external drive or does the camera send them to the PC (& PC is prompted to copy from, similar to when hooking up an external drive & getting the prompt to "view pictures, movies, contents of folders, do nothing").
by James DeRuvo (06/12/2007)
What you need to do is capture the movie footage via something like WinDV or your video editor. You press capture in the software, it should control the playback features of your camera (as long as it's put on VCR) or you may need to press play. Capture the footage and save it as an AVI or MOV file. Then you're ready to edit.
It will come up as a camera, not an extra drive.
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It will come up as a camera, not an extra drive.
danielhw (06/13/2007)
So when I plug in the camera, I should immediately see it in Windows Explorer as the camera (listed with the CD/hard drives)? Just have it in play mode, ready to play back the tape, AC plugged in and all. Does the fact that it says "DV IN" when I plug in the cable mean that the camera detects that it's connected and the cable is good?
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by James DeRuvo (06/13/2007)
That sounds about right. Look under "My Computer" to see if a camera icon pops up.
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danielhw (06/14/2007)
Nothing shows. Does the fact that "DV IN" appears indicate that the camera sees the connection & the port is working, so my issue is on Windows side?
Also I'm using a firewire port on a PCI card. Could that be the issue?
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Also I'm using a firewire port on a PCI card. Could that be the issue?
danielhw (06/14/2007)
Also is the firewire cable I need to use anything special or just a regular firewire cable that fits that style of plug?
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by James DeRuvo (06/15/2007)
If you see DV IN, then I'd say yes, it is probably a Windows issue (big surprise there).
Regular firewire is fine (although there are better quality ones out there).
So, have you tried to capture? Download WinDV and use it. Let us know.
I know you say your PC is clean, but when was the last time you cleaned it of spyware?
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Regular firewire is fine (although there are better quality ones out there).
So, have you tried to capture? Download WinDV and use it. Let us know.
I know you say your PC is clean, but when was the last time you cleaned it of spyware?
danielhw (06/16/2007)
OK, I'm just glad it's not a camera issue. While I did buy the extended warranty through NewEgg, I'd rather it be something I can resolve without a replace.
Good to hear that it is still OK (quality is sure something to look at, but at least can be dealt with later once I get it working).
I've tried WinDV, it sees my ATI video card & a USB TV device, but not the camera.
I do LavaSoft's AdAware & SpyBot S&D as well as take the usual precautions for installations & page visiting (go paranoid on the custom settings for IE's restricted zone, add a known list of "spy sites" to the restricted zone, hardware firewall to prevent incoming, + because of the home network setup this one is behind a hub that also has hardware firewall).
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Good to hear that it is still OK (quality is sure something to look at, but at least can be dealt with later once I get it working).
I've tried WinDV, it sees my ATI video card & a USB TV device, but not the camera.
I do LavaSoft's AdAware & SpyBot S&D as well as take the usual precautions for installations & page visiting (go paranoid on the custom settings for IE's restricted zone, add a known list of "spy sites" to the restricted zone, hardware firewall to prevent incoming, + because of the home network setup this one is behind a hub that also has hardware firewall).
by James DeRuvo (06/18/2007)
Let's not leave out the possibility you have a bad firewire cable here. Try using the same camera and cable, but a different PC.
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danielhw (06/24/2007)
Thanks, I will do that as soon as my new notebook comes in. I only have ONE PC with firewire. Also only ONE cable. Hopefully new notebook will have a firewire cable (came with camera). If not, will get a spare.
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by James DeRuvo (06/26/2007)
Most do these days.
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Johnny D (11/21/2007)
Ok, I might be late for this thread, but what was the answer to the thread? Bad cable? Windows XP issues? I'm experiencing the same problem connecting my ZR700 to Vista Home Premium and XP professional. Software used for capturing are WMM and WinDV. Here's what I have tried so far without success:
1. Computer off, plug in 4-to-6 pin FireWire cable, turned ZR700 to "play", turned on computer.
2. Checked under [Device Manger], no conflicting device, and AGERE OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller is "working properly"
3. Camera does not appear anywhere, in [Device Manager], [My Computer] etc...
4. Plugged FireWire card into a different PCI slot, repeated step 1.
5. Tried a different port (my FireWire card had 2 ports), repeated step 1.
6. Used a Digital Multi-Meter to check the cable, and all conections from one end to the other were good.
7. Services such as WIA, and Canon were on "Automatic"
8. Tried with computer that has XP.
9. Both systems are cleaned.
Anymore suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
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1. Computer off, plug in 4-to-6 pin FireWire cable, turned ZR700 to "play", turned on computer.
2. Checked under [Device Manger], no conflicting device, and AGERE OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller is "working properly"
3. Camera does not appear anywhere, in [Device Manager], [My Computer] etc...
4. Plugged FireWire card into a different PCI slot, repeated step 1.
5. Tried a different port (my FireWire card had 2 ports), repeated step 1.
6. Used a Digital Multi-Meter to check the cable, and all conections from one end to the other were good.
7. Services such as WIA, and Canon were on "Automatic"
8. Tried with computer that has XP.
9. Both systems are cleaned.
Anymore suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
What are the differences between a Canon Elura 100 and a Canon ZR700? (Shari — 06/28/2007)
I'm going to buy used, (since I can't find one new) but cannot decide between a Canon Elura 100 and a Canon ZR700. What are the differences? Which is better?
1) I know the Elura has X20 optical and the ZR700 has X25. But it looks like the Elura does not have Image Stabilization. Does it?
2) Which is better in dim light?
3) I like the idea of scene modes in the Elura, do the scene modes work well? are they worth giving up the Image Stablization of the ZR700 for?
4)which has higher quality video? I will mostly be filming my kids and vacations so a Camcorder that turns on fast and focus' quickly with good quality video is important. I also like to play with various features (that is why these two cameras come out top on my list), and I plan to use the Analog to Digital input feature.
5) A mic input is not important to me, but being able to film my daughter at an awards ceramony all the way across the cafeteria without a tripod means I need a good zoom and either a steady hand or image stabilization,
6)Which has better quality stills?
I am not expecting you to do my homework, I have read tons of reviews on tons of camcorders, enough to narrow it to these two. Please help me decide between them. Thank you for your time and help
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1) I know the Elura has X20 optical and the ZR700 has X25. But it looks like the Elura does not have Image Stabilization. Does it?
2) Which is better in dim light?
3) I like the idea of scene modes in the Elura, do the scene modes work well? are they worth giving up the Image Stablization of the ZR700 for?
4)which has higher quality video? I will mostly be filming my kids and vacations so a Camcorder that turns on fast and focus' quickly with good quality video is important. I also like to play with various features (that is why these two cameras come out top on my list), and I plan to use the Analog to Digital input feature.
5) A mic input is not important to me, but being able to film my daughter at an awards ceramony all the way across the cafeteria without a tripod means I need a good zoom and either a steady hand or image stabilization,
6)Which has better quality stills?
I am not expecting you to do my homework, I have read tons of reviews on tons of camcorders, enough to narrow it to these two. Please help me decide between them. Thank you for your time and help
by James DeRuvo (06/29/2007)
The ZR700 is the upgrade. Though Im' not sure an extra 5X is worth giving up IS for. Video quality would be about the same. BOth have the AtoD feature.
Some will argue that due to the design, that the Elura can record noise from it's mechanisms being so close to the microphone. My research suggests that this may or may not be a design flaw as many just don't get the noise issue on their videos while some complain they do. I'm not convinced it's a design wide issue and may be due to faulty individual units that need to be repaired or replaced. Still, it's a good solid camera and there are great prices on the link above.
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Some will argue that due to the design, that the Elura can record noise from it's mechanisms being so close to the microphone. My research suggests that this may or may not be a design flaw as many just don't get the noise issue on their videos while some complain they do. I'm not convinced it's a design wide issue and may be due to faulty individual units that need to be repaired or replaced. Still, it's a good solid camera and there are great prices on the link above.
Shari (07/02/2007)
James, thanks for your info, I am still needing a little bit more detail, too bad these camcorders are not in stores where I could pick them up and compare :(
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by James DeRuvo (07/13/2007)
Actually, they should be now. They are listed on several websites so it's a pretty good guess they have them in stock as well.
BTW, I noticed that you haven't marked any replies as the "best answer." Are you still looking for an answer? If so, I recommend you re-submit it on digitalcamera-hq.com so it will have a better chance of being noticed. These days it looks like most questions are being answered within a few days. Good luck!
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BTW, I noticed that you haven't marked any replies as the "best answer." Are you still looking for an answer? If so, I recommend you re-submit it on digitalcamera-hq.com so it will have a better chance of being noticed. These days it looks like most questions are being answered within a few days. Good luck!
Shari (07/13/2007)
James, thanks for your attention on this question, I guess my main concern is which of these cameras is best for me. Through research I've answered most of the questions I asked (neither has optical stablization, the Elura has better quality stills and is better in low light situations, the ZR700 has a slight lag with zoom.
so far I am leaning towards the Elura, thanks for your help :)
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so far I am leaning towards the Elura, thanks for your help :)
by James DeRuvo (07/14/2007)
Sure. But the Elura does have image stabilization, it may not be optical, but it can work. And the analog to digital passthrough is a very good feature.
One thing though - Some will argue that due to the design, that the Elura can record noise from it's mechanisms being so close to the microphone. My research suggests that this may or may not be a design flaw as many just don't get the noise issue on their videos while some complain they do. I'm not convinced it's a design wide issue and may be due to faulty individual units that need to be repaired or replaced. Still, it's a good solid camera.
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One thing though - Some will argue that due to the design, that the Elura can record noise from it's mechanisms being so close to the microphone. My research suggests that this may or may not be a design flaw as many just don't get the noise issue on their videos while some complain they do. I'm not convinced it's a design wide issue and may be due to faulty individual units that need to be repaired or replaced. Still, it's a good solid camera.
Shari (07/14/2007)
James,
Thank you for all your info, I decided on the Elura 100 and have bought a refurbished one on ebay $304.00 including shipping, ($35 less than buying it refurbished from the Canon store and it comes with the same warrenty).
Because the ZR700 and Elura are so very similar with several big difference, I had to make a pro and con list for them to make my final choice.
I decided that the slightly better video and still quality (1/5 sensor of the elura instead of 1/6), the slightly better low light performance, and the slightly higher resolution of the LCD and viewfinder of the Elura outweighed the ZR700's longer battery life (with the option to buy an extended life batter-which the Elura cannot do), and the longer optical zoom of X25 and the slimmer design of the ZR700 (which I really liked).
I also liked the Elura's top loading tape better than the bottom loading tape of the ZR700-making it more tripod friendly. Another differerence was that the viewfinder of the ZR700 gets sort of blocked by the battery, especially if you are using a long life battery--l like the option of using the viewfinder if I am in a situation where the LCD light might bother people around me.
so thank you for your help!
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Thank you for all your info, I decided on the Elura 100 and have bought a refurbished one on ebay $304.00 including shipping, ($35 less than buying it refurbished from the Canon store and it comes with the same warrenty).
Because the ZR700 and Elura are so very similar with several big difference, I had to make a pro and con list for them to make my final choice.
I decided that the slightly better video and still quality (1/5 sensor of the elura instead of 1/6), the slightly better low light performance, and the slightly higher resolution of the LCD and viewfinder of the Elura outweighed the ZR700's longer battery life (with the option to buy an extended life batter-which the Elura cannot do), and the longer optical zoom of X25 and the slimmer design of the ZR700 (which I really liked).
I also liked the Elura's top loading tape better than the bottom loading tape of the ZR700-making it more tripod friendly. Another differerence was that the viewfinder of the ZR700 gets sort of blocked by the battery, especially if you are using a long life battery--l like the option of using the viewfinder if I am in a situation where the LCD light might bother people around me.
so thank you for your help!
by James DeRuvo (07/16/2007)
Interesting. But you may want to be sure you have a warranty with it. Had you bought it refurb'd from Canon, you definitely would've. But if it's from eBay, you may be stuck with gray market and no warranty at all. Be advised.
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What is SVP and what is a good video camera for an amateur who eventually wants to document family history and also get great images? (Liaontheroad — 07/19/2007)
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by James DeRuvo (07/19/2007)
SVP is a content protection technology scheme in digital home networks and portable devices which bascially locks down content so you can't use it any way you want. I understand the need to protect intellectual content, but to frustrate your customers to bleed them dry buying multiple formats of the same content is not the way to do it.
As for a good video camera, that depends. Let's look at a few things. If you want to shoot video and then edit it to take out wasted scenes, add titles and music, etc., you're taking a hit in video quality by shooting native with a DVD camera ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). This is because the video on DVDs is encoded to MPEG2, a compressed format. It's great as an end of the line format, but not for shooting source footage. Likewise, hard drive based camcorders ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ), while convenient, tend to record in MPEG2 (only JVC gives you an option to record in AVI). This gives you the same problem. Additionally, you will also have to "re-encode" (also called demuxing) the footage into an editable format. It's a hassle for those of us who wish to edit our videos as a hobby.
However, for DVDs, you'll need to take that DVD and "rip" it to your PC and then encode it into a more editible format.
Oppositely, miniDV cameras ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) are much more robust. These cameras are much better in format because once you've captured, edited and then burned to DVD, you aren't re compressing already compressed footage, like using the DVD or HD cameras would force you into.
Now, let's talk about what PC you're using. Are you a MAC user? If so, it's a good idea to steer clear of SONY ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ), IMHO, as they tend to be incompatible with MAC due to proprietary issues and the fact that SONY abandoned firewire (a MAC staple) for the slower USB 2.0 portal which MAC doesn't use to capture video. They do, however, work just fine with PCs, go figure.
So, why haven't I talked about HD? I just don't think it's ready for the mainstream consumer because of market saturation of HD. As such, it's purely the domain of professionals and early adopters who don't mind investing a good deal of cash to be the first ones to use the latest. That's changing mind you, as we head towards the year that Uncle Sam has mandated for moving television broadcast into the HD spectrum. Prices have dropped dramatically this year on HD televisions (from $8K to just over $1K), but let's not forget that you'd also need an HD capable editing software, HD DVD burner, HD dvd player, etc. And you need to unlearn and relearn how to shoot HD. And how many friends and family are actually investing in HD at the moment? Sharing HD DVDs with them will be a problem since that market saturation just isn't there yet. And in buying an HD camera, you have to also upgrade to an HDTV, HD DVD player, HD DVD burner and use expensive HD DVD media. And since there's yet another petty and ridiculous format war going on between HD DVD and Blue Ray, which one do you get? And that also has an issue with what others have. All this, and the fact that HD is still the purvue of the early adopter has prices very expensive and it all adds up.
But multiformat burners are coming, so that format war will be rendered moot soon. In the end, you'll have to encode for both.
So, it's up to you if you want to get in on the ground floor of HD, or wait until the tipping point has been reached with prices, availability, and market saturation. My bet is you'll be ready when you're looking to buy your NEXT camcorder, not this one, IMHO, unless you're planning on simply shooting in SD mode while paying for an HD camera you're not using.
Now to specifics. I'm a big fan of Canon ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ).
Most miniDV models have widescreen capability, image stabilization, and a nifty little feature called analog to digital pass through, which enables you to take those home movies you have on VHS and capture them onto your PC by daisy chaining your VCR through the camera and into the PC via firewire. Then you can edit and burn to DVD as well. Great feature.
Canon has several new upgrades to its ZR-line of miniDV camcorders. The Canon ZR800, 830, and 850 will replace the ZR500, 600, and 700 as the company's budget video cameras. While these new models offer only minor improvements over their predecessors, they're welcome offerings ...
With a price difference of just $80 between models, the three offer similar features. All are relatively low resolution, with 680,000-pixel sensors on the ZR800 and ZR830 and a 1-megapixel sensor on the ZR850. All three use the same 35X zoom lens, and feature *electronic* image stabilization to reduce shake. Of course, any magnification over about 12X is usually going to be shaky without a tripod, regardless of the anti-shake features. Finally, all three camcorders have a 2.7-inch 16:9 widescreen LCD for framing shots.
The ZR830 and ZR850 include a new QuickStart feature, a modified standby mode that Canon claims draws 50 percent less power. All three camcorders also feature SecureDigital card slots, and the ZR830 and ZR850 support SDHC cards with capacities of 4 GB and higher. While the ZR800 doesn't feature QuickStart, it's the only one among the three to offer an external microphone port. ZR830 and ZR850 users have to make due with the camera's built-in mic. Note - the ZR850 does not have the analog to digital pass through feature, however.
The Canon ZR800, ZR830, and ZR850 have suggested price tags of $280, $300, and $353, respectively.
That's where I'd be looking if I were you.
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As for a good video camera, that depends. Let's look at a few things. If you want to shoot video and then edit it to take out wasted scenes, add titles and music, etc., you're taking a hit in video quality by shooting native with a DVD camera ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). This is because the video on DVDs is encoded to MPEG2, a compressed format. It's great as an end of the line format, but not for shooting source footage. Likewise, hard drive based camcorders ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ), while convenient, tend to record in MPEG2 (only JVC gives you an option to record in AVI). This gives you the same problem. Additionally, you will also have to "re-encode" (also called demuxing) the footage into an editable format. It's a hassle for those of us who wish to edit our videos as a hobby.
However, for DVDs, you'll need to take that DVD and "rip" it to your PC and then encode it into a more editible format.
Oppositely, miniDV cameras ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) are much more robust. These cameras are much better in format because once you've captured, edited and then burned to DVD, you aren't re compressing already compressed footage, like using the DVD or HD cameras would force you into.
Now, let's talk about what PC you're using. Are you a MAC user? If so, it's a good idea to steer clear of SONY ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ), IMHO, as they tend to be incompatible with MAC due to proprietary issues and the fact that SONY abandoned firewire (a MAC staple) for the slower USB 2.0 portal which MAC doesn't use to capture video. They do, however, work just fine with PCs, go figure.
So, why haven't I talked about HD? I just don't think it's ready for the mainstream consumer because of market saturation of HD. As such, it's purely the domain of professionals and early adopters who don't mind investing a good deal of cash to be the first ones to use the latest. That's changing mind you, as we head towards the year that Uncle Sam has mandated for moving television broadcast into the HD spectrum. Prices have dropped dramatically this year on HD televisions (from $8K to just over $1K), but let's not forget that you'd also need an HD capable editing software, HD DVD burner, HD dvd player, etc. And you need to unlearn and relearn how to shoot HD. And how many friends and family are actually investing in HD at the moment? Sharing HD DVDs with them will be a problem since that market saturation just isn't there yet. And in buying an HD camera, you have to also upgrade to an HDTV, HD DVD player, HD DVD burner and use expensive HD DVD media. And since there's yet another petty and ridiculous format war going on between HD DVD and Blue Ray, which one do you get? And that also has an issue with what others have. All this, and the fact that HD is still the purvue of the early adopter has prices very expensive and it all adds up.
But multiformat burners are coming, so that format war will be rendered moot soon. In the end, you'll have to encode for both.
So, it's up to you if you want to get in on the ground floor of HD, or wait until the tipping point has been reached with prices, availability, and market saturation. My bet is you'll be ready when you're looking to buy your NEXT camcorder, not this one, IMHO, unless you're planning on simply shooting in SD mode while paying for an HD camera you're not using.
Now to specifics. I'm a big fan of Canon ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ).
Most miniDV models have widescreen capability, image stabilization, and a nifty little feature called analog to digital pass through, which enables you to take those home movies you have on VHS and capture them onto your PC by daisy chaining your VCR through the camera and into the PC via firewire. Then you can edit and burn to DVD as well. Great feature.
Canon has several new upgrades to its ZR-line of miniDV camcorders. The Canon ZR800, 830, and 850 will replace the ZR500, 600, and 700 as the company's budget video cameras. While these new models offer only minor improvements over their predecessors, they're welcome offerings ...
With a price difference of just $80 between models, the three offer similar features. All are relatively low resolution, with 680,000-pixel sensors on the ZR800 and ZR830 and a 1-megapixel sensor on the ZR850. All three use the same 35X zoom lens, and feature *electronic* image stabilization to reduce shake. Of course, any magnification over about 12X is usually going to be shaky without a tripod, regardless of the anti-shake features. Finally, all three camcorders have a 2.7-inch 16:9 widescreen LCD for framing shots.
The ZR830 and ZR850 include a new QuickStart feature, a modified standby mode that Canon claims draws 50 percent less power. All three camcorders also feature SecureDigital card slots, and the ZR830 and ZR850 support SDHC cards with capacities of 4 GB and higher. While the ZR800 doesn't feature QuickStart, it's the only one among the three to offer an external microphone port. ZR830 and ZR850 users have to make due with the camera's built-in mic. Note - the ZR850 does not have the analog to digital pass through feature, however.
The Canon ZR800, ZR830, and ZR850 have suggested price tags of $280, $300, and $353, respectively.
That's where I'd be looking if I were you.
I'm torn...I like ease of use for viewing footage. love HD.Is the Panasonic HDC-SD1 too early and will it eventually be easy to edit and get on DVD? (logey — 07/28/2007)
This is my first camcorder...I want the best possible that doesn't require classes to work with and watch! I want something that won't be outdated but also isn't too ahead to be too early and changes needed for improvement.
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Ungermann (07/30/2007)
You may want for their newer SD5 model to hit the stores. In any case, the AVCHD compression format used in this camcorder is rather new, and you may experience troubles trying to find a proper editing tool that supports this format and does not crash. You will need a powerful computer too.
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Michael, Canon Elura User Pages ( elurauser.com )
by James DeRuvo (08/07/2007)
DVD easy to edit? Not going to happen, my friend.
If you want to shoot video and then edit it to take out wasted scenes, add titles and music, etc., you're taking a hit in video quality by shooting native with a DVD camera ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). This is because the video on DVDs is encoded to MPEG2, a compressed format. It's great as an end of the line format, but not for shooting source footage. Likewise, hard drive based camcorders ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ), while convenient, tend to record in MPEG2 (only JVC gives you an option to record in AVI). This gives you the same problem. Additionally, you will also have to "re-encode" (also called demuxing) the footage into an editable format. It's a hassle for those of us who wish to edit our videos as a hobby.
However, for DVDs, you'll need to take that DVD and "rip" it to your PC and then encode it into a more editible format. I recommend DVD Decrypter or DVD Shrink. They will get your footage off the dvd and onto your PC. You can then use something like Videoera (PC) or Handbrake (Mac) to encode it to a more editable format. Depending on what editing software you use, you may be able to import mpeg2 and even VOB files directly. But understand that you're already starting with compressed footage, so the resolution quality will not be as good as if you had shot native with MiniDV tape and captured to your PC.
Oppositely, miniDV cameras ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) are much more robust. Cameras like the Elura 100 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) are much better in format because once you've captured, edited and then burned to DVD, you aren't recompressing already compressed footage, like using the DVD camera would force you into.
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If you want to shoot video and then edit it to take out wasted scenes, add titles and music, etc., you're taking a hit in video quality by shooting native with a DVD camera ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). This is because the video on DVDs is encoded to MPEG2, a compressed format. It's great as an end of the line format, but not for shooting source footage. Likewise, hard drive based camcorders ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ), while convenient, tend to record in MPEG2 (only JVC gives you an option to record in AVI). This gives you the same problem. Additionally, you will also have to "re-encode" (also called demuxing) the footage into an editable format. It's a hassle for those of us who wish to edit our videos as a hobby.
However, for DVDs, you'll need to take that DVD and "rip" it to your PC and then encode it into a more editible format. I recommend DVD Decrypter or DVD Shrink. They will get your footage off the dvd and onto your PC. You can then use something like Videoera (PC) or Handbrake (Mac) to encode it to a more editable format. Depending on what editing software you use, you may be able to import mpeg2 and even VOB files directly. But understand that you're already starting with compressed footage, so the resolution quality will not be as good as if you had shot native with MiniDV tape and captured to your PC.
Oppositely, miniDV cameras ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) are much more robust. Cameras like the Elura 100 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) are much better in format because once you've captured, edited and then burned to DVD, you aren't recompressing already compressed footage, like using the DVD camera would force you into.
Hyder (08/08/2007)
I can understand why pretty much everyone talks up miniDV over everything else; so did I, until my Canon Optura Pi (a camera that turns out beautiful, sharp footage) ate a tape of mine twice. I had it repaired once, I don't want to do it again, and I've become gun-shy about the whole format.
I know people who've filmed documentaries and other high-profile projects using miniDV, but it seems inherently unsafe to me. I can have a data salvaging firm work on a HDD, but I don't know that can I find anyone who can salvage a cassette that's torn up and cut.
What I don't understand is why HDD camcorders record in a compressed format, by and large -- at some point, editability will become important to most users, so why compress the footage by default? Sure, it would fill up the HDD pretty quickly, but I'm happy to treat my disk as a miniDV tape and move the footage to my computer when it fills up. High quality footage should count more than "hours and hours" of filming capacity. The mention of JVC above is tantalizing and I'll look into that brand. Thanks for that note.
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I know people who've filmed documentaries and other high-profile projects using miniDV, but it seems inherently unsafe to me. I can have a data salvaging firm work on a HDD, but I don't know that can I find anyone who can salvage a cassette that's torn up and cut.
What I don't understand is why HDD camcorders record in a compressed format, by and large -- at some point, editability will become important to most users, so why compress the footage by default? Sure, it would fill up the HDD pretty quickly, but I'm happy to treat my disk as a miniDV tape and move the footage to my computer when it fills up. High quality footage should count more than "hours and hours" of filming capacity. The mention of JVC above is tantalizing and I'll look into that brand. Thanks for that note.
by James DeRuvo (08/08/2007)
Oh you're preaching to the choir, Hyder. Only JVCs Everio line gives users the option to shoot in AVI, rather then MPEG2. I think it's due to the fact that uncompressed video is such a space hog and camcorders don't have large enough drive space to save uncompressed and keep the recording times competitive. You go out on vacation and you want to shoot more than a few minutes of video.
I understand you're skittishness of tape, sure. But that can be prevented with keeping your heads cleaner and the camera properly maintained. It can still happen, mind you, but miniDV is still the best way to go if you are planning on editing.
I have a hunch, however, that this will change as flash based storage options come online with greater size. HDD may not be the end all, be all, but a transitionary format. But they should at least give the user the OPTION of shooting uncompressed.
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I understand you're skittishness of tape, sure. But that can be prevented with keeping your heads cleaner and the camera properly maintained. It can still happen, mind you, but miniDV is still the best way to go if you are planning on editing.
I have a hunch, however, that this will change as flash based storage options come online with greater size. HDD may not be the end all, be all, but a transitionary format. But they should at least give the user the OPTION of shooting uncompressed.
by James DeRuvo (08/29/2007)
Hi, I noticed that you haven't marked any replies as the "best answer." Are you still looking for an answer? If so, I recommend you re-submit it on digitalcamera-hq.com so it will have a better chance of being noticed. These days it looks like most questions are being answered within a few days. Good luck!
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Canon Elura 100 best options? (cachora — 07/28/2007)
Hello, I?m a Mac user, and I read that the Canon Elura 100 is a good choice if you have a Mac and low budget. My question is: what others camcorders will be better than Canon Elura 100, thinking in interested in video quality and mac compatible, and in the $400-$500 range?
Thanks in advance!!
P.D.: I have a Mac intel 2.16Ghz Core 2Duo
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Thanks in advance!!
P.D.: I have a Mac intel 2.16Ghz Core 2Duo
Rich Watson (07/28/2007)
The Elura 100 has been discontinued, but it is still a great camera if you can find one. I can't think of a better camera in that price range. One close second is the Canon ZR700. Perhaps you realize that the miniDV format is the easiest and most reliable format if you want to do computer editing.
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how can I set up my canon elura 100 as a web cam? (Revmb — 08/06/2007)
Can I use it on a Mac or PC?
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by James DeRuvo (08/07/2007)
Canon is moot on the subject since the issue is ... drivers. There are free ones out there, but you get what you pay for. You can also try a utility called WebCamDV, which tricks Windows into believing your camcorder is a webcam (free demo, $20 for full version). Downside, it's firewire. So you'll need to connect your camera via analog either into your capture card that way or through a bridge like those made by Pinnacle.
Another one is called TrackerCam DV Driver. Same, about $20. There are some wonderful bonus features included in DVdriver, too, that are worth the price of admission in themselves, if you need them.
The first is optical zoom control. If your camcorder is a Canon ZR or one of several other compatible models, DVdriver is able to control the camcorder's optical zoom from your computer. Just clicking a control with your mouse makes the camcorder's lens zoom in or out.
However, you will probably need to use a separate microphone because the beef is that programs like these don't recognize the audio from the camera.
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Another one is called TrackerCam DV Driver. Same, about $20. There are some wonderful bonus features included in DVdriver, too, that are worth the price of admission in themselves, if you need them.
The first is optical zoom control. If your camcorder is a Canon ZR or one of several other compatible models, DVdriver is able to control the camcorder's optical zoom from your computer. Just clicking a control with your mouse makes the camcorder's lens zoom in or out.
However, you will probably need to use a separate microphone because the beef is that programs like these don't recognize the audio from the camera.
geckophotographer (08/08/2007)
If you own a PC:
How to use a Camcorder as a Webcam (PC Software Only) ( chris.pirillo.com/media/200... )
If you own a Mac:
I've found out that the Elura 100 works just fine with Apple. (as long as you use a FireWire 400 cable)
You can go here to learn more about the software:
Apple.com Lists (Webcam software suggestions) ( lists.apple.com/archives/st... )
A different website explaining how to use a camcorder as a webcam ( ralphjohnsuk.dsl.pipex.com/... )
Macworld Forums: turn DV camcorder into webcam? ( macworld.com/forums/ubbthre... )
Pure Mac: Web Cams - Software for Macintosh ( pure-mac.com/webcam.html )
What you should use (according to the first URL) is that you can use Apple's free Quicktime Broadcaster ( apple.com/quicktime/broadca... ) to broadcast your camcorder video live through a FireWire cable. You can also try iChat USB Cam ( ecamm.com/mac/ichatusbcam/ ), however, it costs $10. There is a free trial version available. (for this software, you don't need a firewire cable. a usb cable will work just fine)
Check the other URLs to find out some more software you can use. Or just search google with the query "webcam camcorder mac software ( google.com/search?hl=en&... )"
If you have any more questions, don't hesitate to ask. :)
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How to use a Camcorder as a Webcam (PC Software Only) ( chris.pirillo.com/media/200... )
If you own a Mac:
I've found out that the Elura 100 works just fine with Apple. (as long as you use a FireWire 400 cable)
You can go here to learn more about the software:
Apple.com Lists (Webcam software suggestions) ( lists.apple.com/archives/st... )
A different website explaining how to use a camcorder as a webcam ( ralphjohnsuk.dsl.pipex.com/... )
Macworld Forums: turn DV camcorder into webcam? ( macworld.com/forums/ubbthre... )
Pure Mac: Web Cams - Software for Macintosh ( pure-mac.com/webcam.html )
What you should use (according to the first URL) is that you can use Apple's free Quicktime Broadcaster ( apple.com/quicktime/broadca... ) to broadcast your camcorder video live through a FireWire cable. You can also try iChat USB Cam ( ecamm.com/mac/ichatusbcam/ ), however, it costs $10. There is a free trial version available. (for this software, you don't need a firewire cable. a usb cable will work just fine)
Check the other URLs to find out some more software you can use. Or just search google with the query "webcam camcorder mac software ( google.com/search?hl=en&... )"
If you have any more questions, don't hesitate to ask. :)
Revmb (08/10/2007)
Thanks. I will look into the software. I am hoping to use it with skype to talk to my daughter off at college. It may be just easier to buy a webcam! I was hoping to hear, just plug it in and it will work.
Marilee
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Marilee
geckophotographer (08/11/2007)
Yeah. This webcam from Logitech looks pretty good and inexpensive:
QuickCam® Chat for Skype ( logitech.com/index.cfm/webc... )
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QuickCam® Chat for Skype ( logitech.com/index.cfm/webc... )
by James DeRuvo (08/13/2007)
Michael, nice net fu! Brilliant catch that I'll review and probably reevaluate my position with.
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I have a lapel mic for the my elura 100 and it is not working (rochk123 — 09/12/2007)
I bought a lapel mic. The mic did not work at first so i called canon and they told me the mic needs to be a self powered mic. Is there anyway to make this microphone a self powered( maybe making a battery connection that on one side connects to the mic input and on the other side connects to the microphone).
thanks
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thanks
by James DeRuvo (09/13/2007)
The risk you take is over powering the microphone and burning the circuitry in the camera. I would guard against trying to "mod" it. Best to just buy a condenser mic that is powered and sell this one on eBay. Sorry.
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Piero Foto (09/21/2007)
I agree with James, DO NOT MESS WITH ELECTRONIC MODIFICATIONS, you may damage the cam unit.
There are many types of mics available and not all are are self powered. If you need to use lapel(Lavalier) mics with your cam(Elura) you will need to get a powered wireless mic system.
I am not quite sure what mic system you are using but Lavaliere mics are available with powered transmitter and receiver which will work with the Elura. Wireless Lavalier and hand held mics connect to a powered transmitter and the powered receiver connects to the cam(Elura 100)
I suggest to get a cold shoe bracket for the Elura 100 for external lights and audio accessories.
Good Luck!
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There are many types of mics available and not all are are self powered. If you need to use lapel(Lavalier) mics with your cam(Elura) you will need to get a powered wireless mic system.
I am not quite sure what mic system you are using but Lavaliere mics are available with powered transmitter and receiver which will work with the Elura. Wireless Lavalier and hand held mics connect to a powered transmitter and the powered receiver connects to the cam(Elura 100)
I suggest to get a cold shoe bracket for the Elura 100 for external lights and audio accessories.
Good Luck!
Piero Foto (09/21/2007)
Wireless mics:
videoguys.com/azden.htm
Cold Shoe Bracket:
Bescor VB-50 Universal Shoe Mount Adapter. Bracket Attaches To Bottom Screw Mount. Has 2 Shoe Mounts $10
bhphotovideo.com/bnh/contro...
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videoguys.com/azden.htm
Cold Shoe Bracket:
Bescor VB-50 Universal Shoe Mount Adapter. Bracket Attaches To Bottom Screw Mount. Has 2 Shoe Mounts $10
bhphotovideo.com/bnh/contro...
rochk123 (09/21/2007)
the problem was I was looking for a cheap Microphone
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With all that said, I will need a Firewire card and the Firewire cable? (czcbxj — 10/11/2007)
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by James DeRuvo (10/14/2007)
Yes. But that's not a bad thing. Firewire is much faster and larger transfer medium than USB 2.0. That translates into less time capturing your video. And cards aren't that expensive - about $20-30. Easily plug and play. For cables, try and get a gold plated heavily shielded one. The better your firewire cable, the better quality your video is.
For capture, I recommend WinDV - google is your friend - it's small, all it does is capture and you'll never drop a frame. And it's free!
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For capture, I recommend WinDV - google is your friend - it's small, all it does is capture and you'll never drop a frame. And it's free!
czcbxj (10/17/2007)
Thanks again for your help. I purchased a Canon Elura 100 from ebay, it's a refurbished camera. I have a Dell desktop computer. Are the Firewire cards all the same? Is there a specific Firewire cable I should purchase? Thanks
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by James DeRuvo (10/18/2007)
Congrats. Let us know how you fare with it. As for which specific cable ... try and get one that's well shielded and even gold plated if you can afford it. It helps with connectivity. The cheaper the cable, the more signal is lost due to inadequate shielding. This translates into a poorer signal and image.
If there's a commercial video supply house in your area, you may even be able to get one cheaper than buying it in the store. And it'll be better. Word to the wise, though they're excellent, Monster cables are vastly overpriced.
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If there's a commercial video supply house in your area, you may even be able to get one cheaper than buying it in the store. And it'll be better. Word to the wise, though they're excellent, Monster cables are vastly overpriced.
Looking for a good quality camcorder for editing and mac compatable (bigair22333 — 10/12/2007)
I own a sony dcr sr40 and am thinking about buying a minidv camcorder. The sony doesnt work well with my imac software, final cut, and the quality after import isnt all that great. I do a lot of extreme sports filming, snowboarding, skateboarding, and some homemade movies. I would like to have a camcorder highly compatable with different lenses, like a fisheye. Mostly I would like a camcorder that is more editor friendly with my mac because editing is my passion. I do not want to pay more than about $350 and am not neccessarily looking for the easiest camcorder to use. Please help me find some good options, thank you.
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by James DeRuvo (10/14/2007)
Ordinarily, I'd be suggesting the Samsung Sports Camcorder, since it comes with an auxiliary lens great for extreme sports. But it seems that Samsung has quietly killed that unit - according to the answer forums on their website. You may still be able to get one. It shoots in MPEG4 and store on SD cards - which isn't that stellar if you're going to edit it though.
Canon is probably your best bet. Especially the ZR800 line. Compact. MiniDV. 16:9 widescreen option. And the best part is that it's VERY Mac compatible and dead in your price range. Click on the links to the right under "latest camcorders," they're right in the middle.
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Canon is probably your best bet. Especially the ZR800 line. Compact. MiniDV. 16:9 widescreen option. And the best part is that it's VERY Mac compatible and dead in your price range. Click on the links to the right under "latest camcorders," they're right in the middle.
bigair22333 (10/14/2007)
Well what camcorder of the zr800 line or zr700 would be the best for me?
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by James DeRuvo (10/15/2007)
Just about any of them will work for you. I rather like the ZR850 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). Widescreen. 35x optical zoom. Image stabilization. The IS wouldn't take out the camera shake completely while doing extreme sports, but every bit helps ....
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bigair22333 (10/15/2007)
Would you recommend the elura 100
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by James DeRuvo (10/16/2007)
Ordinarily, I would. But it's been discontinued. I'm a big fan of the Canon Elura ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). It has widescreen ability, image stabilization, external mic jack, and a nifty little feature called analog to digital pass through, which enables you to take those home movies you have on VHS and capture them onto your PC by daisy chaining your VCR through the camera and into the PC via firewire. Then you can edit and burn to DVD as well. Great feature.
Some will argue that due to the design, that the Elura can record noise from it's mechanisms being so close to the microphone. My research suggests that this may or may not be a design flaw as many just don't get the noise issue on their videos while some complain they do. I'm not convinced it's a design wide issue and may be due to faulty individual units that need to be repaired or replaced. Still, it's a good solid camera, IMHO.
If you can find one on eBay, it's a good buy.
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Some will argue that due to the design, that the Elura can record noise from it's mechanisms being so close to the microphone. My research suggests that this may or may not be a design flaw as many just don't get the noise issue on their videos while some complain they do. I'm not convinced it's a design wide issue and may be due to faulty individual units that need to be repaired or replaced. Still, it's a good solid camera, IMHO.
If you can find one on eBay, it's a good buy.
I will be taping volleyball games in various gyms. What camera would you reccommend; the ZR 850 or Elura 100? (czcbxj — 10/14/2007)
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Rich Watson (10/15/2007)
Both are good cameras. I like the Elura better; it has the A to D converter.
However, the Elura was discontinued some time ago; I think it has been at least 4 months since then. Perhaps it is still available at a few dealers.
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However, the Elura was discontinued some time ago; I think it has been at least 4 months since then. Perhaps it is still available at a few dealers.
czcbxj (10/15/2007)
Thanks for your help.
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Is the quality of the Elura 100 better or worse than the Sony DCR SR82? (czcbxj — 10/15/2007)
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by James DeRuvo (10/16/2007)
I'm a big fan of the Elura ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). It has widescreen ability, image stabilization, recording in Dolby, and a nifty little feature called analog to digital pass through, which enables you to take those home movies you have on VHS and capture them onto your PC by daisy chaining your VCR through the camera and into the PC via firewire. Then you can edit and burn to DVD as well. Great feature.
Some will argue that due to the design, that the Elura can record noise from it's mechanisms being so close to the microphone. My research suggests that this may or may not be a design flaw as many just don't get the noise issue on their videos while some complain they do. I'm not convinced it's a design wide issue and may be due to faulty individual units that need to be repaired or replaced or settings out of whack on the part of users not used to their camera.
Either way, the Elura has been discontinued.
But in answer to your question, I believe it's better than the SR82 for one reason ... it records uncompressed video. If you want to shoot video and then edit it to take out wasted scenes, add titles and music, etc., you're taking a hit in video quality by shooting native with a hard drive based camcorder ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). This is because the video is encoded to MPEG2, a compressed format. It's great as an end of the line format, but not for shooting source footage. Additionally, if your editor doesn't support importing of MPEG2 video, you will have to "re-encode" (also called demuxing) the footage into an editable format. It's a hassle for those of us who wish to edit our videos as a hobby.
And if you're a Mac users, the frustration of Sony's lack of compatibility with the Mac really makes the Elura more appealing.
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Some will argue that due to the design, that the Elura can record noise from it's mechanisms being so close to the microphone. My research suggests that this may or may not be a design flaw as many just don't get the noise issue on their videos while some complain they do. I'm not convinced it's a design wide issue and may be due to faulty individual units that need to be repaired or replaced or settings out of whack on the part of users not used to their camera.
Either way, the Elura has been discontinued.
But in answer to your question, I believe it's better than the SR82 for one reason ... it records uncompressed video. If you want to shoot video and then edit it to take out wasted scenes, add titles and music, etc., you're taking a hit in video quality by shooting native with a hard drive based camcorder ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). This is because the video is encoded to MPEG2, a compressed format. It's great as an end of the line format, but not for shooting source footage. Additionally, if your editor doesn't support importing of MPEG2 video, you will have to "re-encode" (also called demuxing) the footage into an editable format. It's a hassle for those of us who wish to edit our videos as a hobby.
And if you're a Mac users, the frustration of Sony's lack of compatibility with the Mac really makes the Elura more appealing.
czcbxj (10/16/2007)
Thanks again for all your help. There are plenty of Elura's on Ebay that can be purchased for around $300. I take pictures for my daughters sports teams and put together end-of-the year slide shows with music. It sounds like the Elura will be the best pic for me. One last question. The ZR850 is much more reasonable in price, would I be sacrificing picture quality, low light taping, and other features by going with that? You've been a great source of information on my camcorder journey. Thanks
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by James DeRuvo (10/16/2007)
not at all. you won't have the analog to digital pass through feature, or perhaps the stereo minjack for an external microphone, but other than that, the ZR850 would be a good choice as well.
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I have an Elura 100. I've taken video of my daughters volleyball games and now would like to take clips and insert them into a slide show. (czcbxj — 11/03/2007)
I have been able to download the video using the 1394 card and cable using Windows Movie Maker but have not been able to take a clip and insert it into my slideshow program. What is the easiest way? Thanks
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by James DeRuvo (11/03/2007)
Well, that depends on the slideshow program. Can you give us some more information? What I would recommend is turning your slideshow into a movie and then use it in a DVD along with your video clips. It gives you so much more flexibility.
But without knowing how you make your slideshows, it's hard to suggest "the easiest way." Please advise. We're here to help.
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But without knowing how you make your slideshows, it's hard to suggest "the easiest way." Please advise. We're here to help.
czcbxj (11/03/2007)
The software program I have is Proshow Gold by Photodex. It has worked nicely for my digital photography and I have even put a few small clips that were made from my old Fuji digital camera.
Thanks for your help.
Steve
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Thanks for your help.
Steve
by James DeRuvo (11/05/2007)
What you probably need to do is encode the clip into something that ProShow can handle, which is a pretty vast list:
Supported Input Formats ( photodex.com/support/resour... ): .AVI, .MOV, .MPEG, .WMV
Anything else will probably need to be reencoded.
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Supported Input Formats ( photodex.com/support/resour... ): .AVI, .MOV, .MPEG, .WMV
Anything else will probably need to be reencoded.
czcbxj (11/06/2007)
I downloaded the free file WinDV and use this to open run the video. The software allows me to watch and capture sections of video creating clips each time I capture and pause. I was able to drag these clips right into the slideshow program. Thanks for your help.
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by James DeRuvo (11/06/2007)
Isn't that a fabulous littlle program? Every video user should have it. and the best part is, it's free! Sure wish they'd update it for HD though.
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czcbxj (11/07/2007)
Thanks again. This forum has been awesome!
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by James DeRuvo (11/07/2007)
You bet. That's what we're here for and we're happy to help.
BTW - If you're happy with the answer you received, you can simply click on "Mark for best answer" bubble and it will place the question in the "Answered" category for all to see. Thanks for posting it and Good luck!
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BTW - If you're happy with the answer you received, you can simply click on "Mark for best answer" bubble and it will place the question in the "Answered" category for all to see. Thanks for posting it and Good luck!
How to download widescreen (16:9) video to PC? I couldn?t find any option in Windows Movie Maker. (JohnNick — 12/03/2007)
I have recorded videos into widescreen mode using Elura 100, when I am downloading it to PC using Windows Movie Maker, I don�t seen any option to download it in widescreen (19:9) and it downloads in 4:3 format. Any help is appreciated. Thanks in advance
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by James DeRuvo (12/03/2007)
The best utility I have found for this purpose is WinDV ( windv.mourek.cz/ ). It's free. And not only can you capture with it without dropping a frame, but thanks to the firewire interface, you can control your camcorder directly!
That's the way I would do it. Then import it into your editor.
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That's the way I would do it. Then import it into your editor.
I am getting a "Remove Tape" error when attempting to load the camera. The tape is brand new. What can I do to get around this? (slhiggin — 12/19/2007)
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by James DeRuvo (12/19/2007)
According to Canon ... REMOVE THE CASSETTE error means that the camcorder stopped operating to protect the tape. Unload and reload the cassette.
Check to see if the protect tab is engaged. That may be causing the issue. Also, check to see if there's anything inside the tape mechanism that could be preventing the tape from winding around the heads. Clean heads. Use canned air, etc.
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Check to see if the protect tab is engaged. That may be causing the issue. Also, check to see if there's anything inside the tape mechanism that could be preventing the tape from winding around the heads. Clean heads. Use canned air, etc.
slhiggin (12/20/2007)
Thanks for the help. I believe my problem was power related. Once I charged the camcorder, it accepted the tape again.
Crisis averted.
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Crisis averted.
by James DeRuvo (12/21/2007)
All is well then. BTW - If you're happy with the answer you received, you can simply click on "Mark for best answer" bubble and it
will place the question in the "Answered" category for all to see. Thanks for posting it and Good luck!
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will place the question in the "Answered" category for all to see. Thanks for posting it and Good luck!
slhiggin (12/27/2007)
Crisis returned. I took out one tape and now cannot get a new tape to load. The tape doesn't have its protective tab on, so I'm thinking this is a defect in the device. I keep charging it to see if I can get it to accept the tape, but it ejects even when plugged in.
I saw others had this issue on another forum, and I'm not sure there's an easy fix. If someone found a solution, I'm all ears!
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I saw others had this issue on another forum, and I'm not sure there's an easy fix. If someone found a solution, I'm all ears!
by James DeRuvo (12/27/2007)
Take a piece of tape and cover the hole. That should fix it.
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Mark (07/17/2009)
CANNONS ELURA 100 CAMERAS ARE PEICES OF CRAP.
I have 2 I used for 2 years and they both, around the same time, started to do the "REMOVE CASSETTE " ERROR MESSAGE
NEVER EVER EVER BUY FROM CANON.
i HAVE TO REMOV ETHE BATTERY AND SLAP IT BACK IN AT LEAST 20 TIMES BEFORE THEY START TO WORK AGAIN.....weird I know but true.
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I have 2 I used for 2 years and they both, around the same time, started to do the "REMOVE CASSETTE " ERROR MESSAGE
NEVER EVER EVER BUY FROM CANON.
i HAVE TO REMOV ETHE BATTERY AND SLAP IT BACK IN AT LEAST 20 TIMES BEFORE THEY START TO WORK AGAIN.....weird I know but true.
carsten (11/08/2009)
My camera has been having this problem off and for about 3 years and nothing works. I try different tapes, it doesn't work. I try taking the battery out and put it back in, it sometimes works. I'm just really tired of this problem. Any ideas anyone?
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How do you get the date to display while watching playback on the camcorder? (sla69 — 12/27/2007)
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by James DeRuvo (12/27/2007)
Check out page 15 under "displays under playback," and page 72 Display Data Code.
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sla69 (12/28/2007)
Thanks, I found those sections in the manual and followed the instructions, but I still can't get the date to show during playback. Any suggestions?
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sla69 (12/28/2007)
I found it now, I missed a step the first time. Thanks so much for your response!
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Does the ATR20 micrpophone work with the 100? (JonnyH92 — 01/09/2008)
I got an Audio-Technica ATR20 microphone for Christmas, but it doesnt seem to work with the Elura 100. I happened across another 100 user who uses the ATR20, and it works fine for him! When I plug it in to the mic jack, the symbol shows up on the screen that says it recognizes it, but when I record myself talking and play it back from the camera, there is no audio. I tested to see if the microphone was broken, and it was fine. Is the microphone jack busted?
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by James DeRuvo (01/14/2008)
Canon recommends using a condenser microphone that supplies it's own power. without this, you may run into extremely low volume.
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JonnyH92 (01/14/2008)
Oh, thanks! That was the problem. So, any suggestions on how to make it louder or should I just get a different mic?
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by James DeRuvo (01/15/2008)
With the mic supplying it's own power, it'll be much louder, I assure you. But you may want to look in your menu settings for a volume control.
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Amateur journalist looking for decent camcorder! (totallycandi — 01/15/2008)
I am looking for a camcorder that would be not too expensive and still produce decent-quality clips. it would be used mainly for amateur online press, aka interviews filmed and posted on youtube/VIRB. I need something that has a mic jack and works well with Mac OS, not too heavy and with good battery life.
Thanks!
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Thanks!
by James DeRuvo (01/17/2008)
Canon's Vixia line of camcorders mark the return of external microphone jacks, which have taken a brief hiatus from the camcorder line. The Canon ZR800 is a very affordable standard definition camera which was the last sd camera to enjoy that feature. And being Canon, they are very mac compatible.
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Ungermann (02/13/2008)
Define "not too expensive".
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totallycandi (02/14/2008)
Under $500 would be good.
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by James DeRuvo (02/14/2008)
If you can get a Canon ZR800, I believe it was the last model to have an external microphone jack. Even better would be the discontinued Canon Elura ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). It has widescreen ability, image stabilization, recording in Dolby, and a nifty little feature called analog to digital pass through, which enables you to take those home movies you have on VHS and capture them onto your PC by daisy chaining your VCR through the camera and into the PC via firewire. Then you can edit and burn to DVD as well. Great feature.
Some will argue that due to the design, that the Elura can record noise from it's mechanisms being so close to the microphone. My research suggests that this may or may not be a design flaw as many just don't get the noise issue on their videos while some complain they do. I'm not convinced it's a design wide issue and may be due to faulty individual units that need to be repaired or replaced. Still, it's a good solid camera and there are great prices on the link above.
Another good option is the Panasonic GS500 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). 3CCD camera with both firewire and USB 2.0 for transfer, image stabilization, and recording on miniDV. Word on the street though, is that the GS500 has been discontinued to make ready for a new model. You can still find it available as vendors sell out their existing stock to make ready. And support will still be available for it.
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Some will argue that due to the design, that the Elura can record noise from it's mechanisms being so close to the microphone. My research suggests that this may or may not be a design flaw as many just don't get the noise issue on their videos while some complain they do. I'm not convinced it's a design wide issue and may be due to faulty individual units that need to be repaired or replaced. Still, it's a good solid camera and there are great prices on the link above.
Another good option is the Panasonic GS500 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). 3CCD camera with both firewire and USB 2.0 for transfer, image stabilization, and recording on miniDV. Word on the street though, is that the GS500 has been discontinued to make ready for a new model. You can still find it available as vendors sell out their existing stock to make ready. And support will still be available for it.
Ungermann (02/14/2008)
The last year's Canon ZR800 and this year's ZR900 and ZR930 have mic inputs, these cameras cost less than $300. The Sony DCR-HC96 is a great camera with large 1/3-inch sensor, it is one of the best in low light, it also has 30p mode, its resolution is close to some HD cameras. You can find it for about $450. It does not have mic input, but it has proprietary Sony microphone or you can buy an adapter from Sony's hot shoe to regular mic socket for about $20.
You won't find HD camera for this money (though yesterday TigerDirect had Canon HG10 on sale for $600). HDD-based camcorders in this price range are either no good (JVC) or have no mic input (Panasonic).
Do not even think of DVD-based camera.
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Michael, Canon Elura User Pages ( elurauser.com )
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You won't find HD camera for this money (though yesterday TigerDirect had Canon HG10 on sale for $600). HDD-based camcorders in this price range are either no good (JVC) or have no mic input (Panasonic).
Do not even think of DVD-based camera.
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Michael, Canon Elura User Pages ( elurauser.com )
by James DeRuvo (02/15/2008)
Agreed! If you want to shoot video and then edit it to take out wasted scenes, add titles and music, etc., you're taking a hit in video quality by shooting native with a DVD camera ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ). This is because the video on DVDs is encoded to MPEG2, a compressed format. It's great as an end of the line format, but not for shooting source footage. Additionally, if your editor doesn't import MPEG2 footage, you will have to "re-encode" (also called demuxing) the footage into an editable format. It's a hassle for those of us who wish to edit our videos as a hobby.
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High definition camcorder for mac note book, Which one you recommend? (Nandarao2008 — 01/15/2008)
I bought 06-Tiger version Mac notebook, with dvd super drive 80gb.
Now I wish to purchase one High definition compatible camcorder.
There are so many from £300. upwards. Which one I should buy
Please? Tried,tested and suitable?
Thanks
nandarao2008
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Now I wish to purchase one High definition compatible camcorder.
There are so many from £300. upwards. Which one I should buy
Please? Tried,tested and suitable?
Thanks
nandarao2008
Nandarao2008 (01/15/2008)
Sorry! I forgot to mention, its for UK use with PAL standard.
Thanks a million,
nandrao2008
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Thanks a million,
nandrao2008
by James DeRuvo (01/17/2008)
Apple supports ( docs.info.apple.com/article... ) many different camcorders that are tried, tested and suitable. The good news is that just about any firewire based miniDV HD camcorder - like the Canon HV20 - will work.
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Nandarao2008 (01/18/2008)
Dear James Deruvo, Thank you for your help. I am looking for few more makes with
lots of features. I wish to know which will give me best editing features? There are
other makes like Sanyo sd card based, there are models hard disc type, confused.
I have at the moment a canon mv960, DV type, it takes a long time to locate scenes.
The picture quality is not brilliant, thats the min reason, I want to go for High Definition
and quick access.
can you help James?
Thanking in advance, With Regaards, Nanda Rao
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lots of features. I wish to know which will give me best editing features? There are
other makes like Sanyo sd card based, there are models hard disc type, confused.
I have at the moment a canon mv960, DV type, it takes a long time to locate scenes.
The picture quality is not brilliant, thats the min reason, I want to go for High Definition
and quick access.
can you help James?
Thanking in advance, With Regaards, Nanda Rao
by James DeRuvo (01/18/2008)
Well the downside of SD card based camcorders is that they tend to record in MPEG4 or something similar which is VERY compressed. Even in HD you'll lose quality because you'll have to reencode the footage to a more editable format before you attempt to edit out unwanted scenes, add titles, music, etc. And then you'll lose more quality when burning to DVD. If all you want is to record and play it and you don't care about editing, then you could perhaps connect it directly to your TV, but that's rather cumbersome, IMHO.
Hard disc types will also record in a compressed format - even in HD. It's a great convenience format, but for editing, miniDV tape is still the best way to go, and HD camerass like the Canon HV20 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) will yield great results, especially in 24p which will give your video a film look. And it can be controlled by most editing software.
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Hard disc types will also record in a compressed format - even in HD. It's a great convenience format, but for editing, miniDV tape is still the best way to go, and HD camerass like the Canon HV20 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... ) will yield great results, especially in 24p which will give your video a film look. And it can be controlled by most editing software.
What is a good microphone for the Canon Elura 100? (JonnyH92 — 01/18/2008)
I recently purchased an ATR20, but found out that it was not compatible. I am now looking for a good microphone that works well with a Canon Elura 100. Any suggestions?
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by James DeRuvo (01/21/2008)
What you need is a condenser mic that provides it's own power. I'd also check out Videomaker's latest microphone buyer's guide. It's a great place to see what's out there and what works best.
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I have an Elura 100 the play back of recording has gray horizontal stripes (rhaycock — 03/02/2008)
I've recently had circuit city clean the heads and I also purchased a mini dv head cleaner. The playback of the recording still has solid horizontal gray lines when playing back. The lines do not move. I've used a brand new tape as well.
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by James DeRuvo (03/06/2008)
Have you tried a different tape? If you don't get it recording to a separate tape, then you know that your video tape is the issue. If the gray bars persist, then I'd be talking to Circuit City about the damage they did to your video heads and have them repair it on their dime. One other thing, try to reset the camera. That may help.
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by James DeRuvo (04/16/2008)
Hi, I noticed that you haven't marked any replies as the "best answer." Are you still looking for an answer? If so, I recommend you re-submit it on digitalcamera-hq.com so it will have a better chance of being noticed. These days it looks like most questions are being answered within a few days.
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my Canon Elura 65 won't detect on my computer! (JessCRaw — 08/25/2008)
I am a complete novice. I have cleaned all of my laptop. I have a firewire cable. I have windows xp. everything I have tried (including WinDV) has said that no device is connected.
when I first plugged it in it said new hardware detected. Now it doesn't. Also when I first plugged it in i set it on play (VCR) like im supposed to and it said in the bottom right corner "DV IN". Now it doesn't. PLEASE HELP!!!!!!!
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when I first plugged it in it said new hardware detected. Now it doesn't. Also when I first plugged it in i set it on play (VCR) like im supposed to and it said in the bottom right corner "DV IN". Now it doesn't. PLEASE HELP!!!!!!!
by James DeRuvo (09/03/2008)
Jesse, right click on "My Computer" and select "properties." Then Device Manager. Click on your iEEE 1394 controllers and look for a "!" in a yellow field. If so, delete that firewire controller. Then reboot. Connect the camera back up and your XP should pick it back up. I'd also make sure you have the latest drivers.
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camcorder wont record function screen wont come up (trowe45 — 11/25/2008)
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by James DeRuvo (11/26/2008)
First, check to see if the protect tab is engaged on the tape. This is often the case and will prevent recording. Second, try to reset the camera.
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trowe45 (12/04/2008)
Thanks tried this but still only blank screen and no function menu after pushing func button.
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I would like to erase my tape, is that possible? (emo97756 — 02/17/2009)
I use a direct MiniDV to DVD record function and I don't want any leftover footage. I thought it would be best to have a tape erased before I use it again, so when I set up my system to record a DVD directly from my camera, I can be sure that there is nothing left from the previous recording session.
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by James DeRuvo (02/19/2009)
Absolutely. You can place the tape in the camera with the lens cap over it and hit the record button. You can also try running a strong magnet over it. But I'd just record over it with the cap on (called "blacking the tape") and move on.
Then again, tapes are pretty cheap these days.
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Then again, tapes are pretty cheap these days.
emo97756 (02/20/2009)
Definitely considered that, but thought about sound being picked up. Guess I set that up when the house has gone to bed? Don't think there is a mute function while recording, correct?
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by James DeRuvo (02/20/2009)
I can't remember, but if the Elura has an external mic jack, you can take a cut off 3.5mm plug and stick it in. It'll kill the sound. If not, check your menu settings for a volume control, you can turn it way down.
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emo97756 (02/25/2009)
Used my mic plugged in while "blacking the tape"...and kept mic off during that time. Thanks for the replies.
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camcorder stuck on zoom (MOBlew — 10/03/2009)
My Canon Eula 65 is only a couple of years old but the zoom us stuck. It will not un-zoom. any suggestions?
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by James DeRuvo (10/03/2009)
Well, the camera has a faulty CCD, which Canon will repair for free. It could be tied to that. I'd recommend you send it in for a repair for the faulty CCD and hopefully, they'll repair it as well.
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how do i transfer a video from my elura 100 cassette to my computer (jsmith696969 — 10/04/2009)
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by James DeRuvo (10/06/2009)
What you need to do is capture the footage. You can use your editor for this purpose. It's a simple matter of connecting the computer, going into your editor and selecting the capture option. Then press play on your camcorder, capture in your software and you're off to the races.
However, the best utility I have found for this purpose is WinDV ( windv.mourek.cz/ ). It's free. And not only can you capture with it without dropping a frame, but thanks to the firewire interface, you can control your camcorder directly!
That's the way I would do it. Then import it into your editor.
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However, the best utility I have found for this purpose is WinDV ( windv.mourek.cz/ ). It's free. And not only can you capture with it without dropping a frame, but thanks to the firewire interface, you can control your camcorder directly!
That's the way I would do it. Then import it into your editor.
Why won't my Canon Elura 100 MiniDV not capture audio well when I record? (Gatorman20 — 11/01/2009)
I get a very faint audio when I record video, only the very loudest of sounds. Normal talking in a room is not even picked up by the mic.
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by James DeRuvo (11/02/2009)
Check your volume control.
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SD Card use with the Elura 100 (Darkwawyer — 01/05/2010)
I don't believe I initialized my SD card when I first started using it. I have initialized it since then, but I've never been able to take more than 5 pics without getting a card error. Even if I change the resolution the outcome is the same. What is the problem I'm having with taking still pics?
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by James DeRuvo (01/07/2010)
You may have damaged the card trying to write to an unformatted card. Try a different one.
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