Canon Vixia HF10 Camcorder Review
Posted on 06/06/2008
A Solid, Satisfying HD Camcorder
Review By James DeRuvo
Despite some irritating software issues, the Canon Vixia HF10 is a superlative high-definition camcorder, and its flash-based internal memory is a major advancement in camcorder technology.
The Canon Vixia HF10 is a stellar entry into the solid state camcorder division with only one thing that holds it back. When Canon chose to rely on Image Mixer and Zoom Browser software exclusively for all data transfer duties, users were destined for an ongoing exercise in confusion and frustrationbut more on that later. Let's see what the camera can do.
With an onboard 16GB memory capacity, the HF10 has plenty of room for around 2 hours of highest quality AVCHD video to a maximum of 6 hours on the lowest quality setting of 5Mbps. Now those used to 60 or even 120GB hard drive cameras may find the HF10s capacity to be paltry, and by comparison, perhaps it is. But tests with the unit found it to be plenty of room to shoot in not only one, but two or even three days of videotaping before having to transfer off the footage. And that can be extended even longer with the optional SDHC expansion slot.
Design
The layout of the camera is intuitive, with the memory slots fitting inside the camera covered by its widescreen LCD screen. The menus are fairly easy to navigate thanks to the small joystick and function keys running along the left and bottom of the screen respectively. The photo button or taking digital stills is dead on top of the unit within easy reach of the supporting right hand (although those with smaller hands may find this a bit of a stretch). The record button is in its standard thumb position and the shuttle wheel to go between video and digital still record and playback to be right where it ought to be, just to the right side of the record button.
One beef is that on its default settings the zoom control of the HF10 is lightning quick, perhaps even too quick, as zooming in causes an unsettling jolt. Users can change the zoom speed settings in the setup menu, but the slowest setting is a snail's pace and the middle setting is still awfully slow and is sure to cause a shot being missed while trying to zoom in. Clearly the zoom settings are extremes in speed and Canon would do well to give the zoom speed a more moderate and consistent setting.
One interesting aspect of the HF10s design is the flush covers that exist all over the camera. These covers provide protection for the AC adapter, USB plug, HDMI plug, component out, and even the SDHC card slot. It's a sleek design idea, although it's easy to see how over time some of these could possibly break off, thereby defeating their purpose.
Performance
The HF10 also enjoys an optically stabilized 12x zoom lens which gives the user a 35mm equivalent of 36mm to 432mm, and with it's optical image stabilization, the extreme range of that focal length is rock stable in an average camera hand.
Digital stills weigh in at about 2.76 MP at 1920x1440. And for snapshots, that's just fine for those looking to ease the burden of carrying two separate cameras but who still want to capture those memories. In ideal lighting conditions, the quality of the Vixia's digital stills compares quite nicely with any other digital still camera. However, in low light conditions the camera quality falls apart since the camera chooses high ISO settings and the result is a noisy, underexposed shot in low light conditions. But in daylight, the stills it puts out are gorgeous.
HD video quality is superb as Canon has maximized the use of the AVCHD compression codec without sacrificing much, if any, in the process. And at 17MBPS for capturing a full 1,920 x 1,080, one would expect nothing less. But even at its lowest quality setting of 5MBPS, the quality is not half bad. Users can shoot in 30p progressive or opt for the more movie-like 24p cinema mode, which is a nice sentiment, but in this reporter's opinion, any video based cinema mode is merely a pixilated attempt at copying the brilliance of grain from 70mm or even 25mm movie film. But since you're average videophile isn't going to pop for over $1,000 a minute to achieve true film results, it'll have to do.
Software Issues
That is if you don't succumb to your frustration, and toss the camera out the window while attempting file transfer with the accompanied software. IMAGE MIXER and ZOOM BROWSER are without a doubt the slowest, most confusing and pointless collection of digital code since Kodak's Easyshare software. First off, when installing: one gets a tad confused by the software nomenclature. The Zoom Browser software allegedly handles image transfer, but is located on the "Digital video solutions disk," while the Image Mixer software has its own separate CD. Beginners in computer editing are sure to be confused by this. Then, they may just get frustrated and want o quit as the Zoom Browser software simply refuses to recognize the camera in Vista. We never got it to acquire the camera and ended up just using Explorer to navigate to the picture subdirectory and copying them over directly.
And although Image Mixer has little trouble at all downloading videos to your PC, it is sometimes agonizingly slow to acquire the camera and the same to transfer even moderately long video clips. Far too slow even for the bandwidth hog that is HD video. The good news is that exporting to MPEG2 a snap but sadly, can only be done piecemeal. It would be nice if one could merely highlight and batch convert all clips at once.
This isn't really Canon's fault, mind you, it's Pixela's. But Canon chose the platform to use and it's simply a waste. To this point, it makes me long for the days of simple video capture using WinDV and controlling the camera's playback and capture with a simple click of a button.
Conclusion
On its own, the Vixia HF10 is a joy to shoot. The button layouts may be a stretch for those with smaller hands, but this reporter found them quite easily and intuitive to use. The design is well thought out and saving to flash memory is fast and the quality is superb. But what really drags this camera down, is the same thing that drags all cameras that record to drives: the software that is provided is more an exercise in troubleshooting connections than editing and burning to DVD.

Canon Vixia HF10 Camcorder Comments & Questions (write your own!)
Jack.
I am inclined to be on the safe side and wait for the PAL version which is also due out in May, but unfortunately my visit to USA commences May 4th???
Jack.
Canon NZ also say late April delivery but will not give a date.
I like the 12x optical zoom and Canon OSI technology and I am keen on the AVCHD solid state format, but do have concerns about video editing in AVCHD.
Sony's Movie Studio Platinum will edit only Sony's version of AVCHD - not even its partner's (Panasonic) version of the format.
Canon HF10 says it comes with an editor for its version of AVCHD, but how professional is it compared to say Sony Vegas?
What use is the new format AVCHD format if the editing software is crappy, or non existent?
Yes, moving to solid state video data recording must be the future, but what are the established S/W houses doing about providing good editing S/W for AVCHD?
How about the NTSC versions which I understand are now available in USA? Has anyone spent their bucks and had a play with the supplied editor? Please tell me if it's any good? Does it convert to a format that can be editied by the well established video editing S/W now on the market?
Hey Guys, we need some answers from the manufacturers - why do they assume we are all dumb consumers!
Perhaps I should buy a new HD tape format - Sony or Canon - camcorder? Linear real time downloading isn't all that painfull compared to the time spent knocking the raw footage into a semi-professional finished product?
Canon's HV20 is where I'd be looking if I was going to tape.
just thinking about this question as the camera capture and output is digital why does the pal.nstc matter. They are anaolgue standards. As long as the output is to a digital tv then i dont think it matters. If you want to burn to a dvd then it might but most editors take digital and then allow you to convert to pal or ntsc for play on an analogue tv
But if one wants to record and then hook up the camera to a TV, well, that's another story entirely.
I have an HD TV in the UK - it has hdmi input and digital playback. Digital playback is not PAL or NSTc its a different system. So if you plug the camcorder or a digital dvd player or in my case an Apple TV bought in the US into the TV select HDMI and bobs your uncle you get play back - !!! NTSC and PAL are analogue standards.
regards
Confused.
Canons website has some firmware up but it doesnt tell what it does.
I just want Good editing with my Mac.
But currently flash is pretty slow, so you still have to deal with AVCHD and its processing and compression artifacts, especially motion. If you are videotaping your kids playing sports, $1000 is a lot of money for subpar video. I'm holding off for the faster/larger flash camcorders that record video with more fidelity than ADCHD, maybe even better than HDV.
Canon's 30p (progressive) mode probably won't import correctly into iMovie (..video may appear to run at double-speed..) although the normal 30i mode should be OK.
Got one myself at Japan, HF 10 works just nice with iMovie and iPhoto, dont install the software included.
Apple has a KB note on it here ( support.apple.com/kb/TS1356 ) that states: If you have a Canon HF10 Hard Disk Drive (HDD) camcorder connected to your computer, clicking the Eject button in the iMovie interface may not dismount (eject) the device. Follow these steps to dismount this camcorder:
1. Make sure your video has finished importing.
2. Quit iMovie.
3. Select the Desktop mounted icon that represents your camcorder.
4. Choose File > Eject... or press the Command and E keys together to unmount the camcorder.
So, dealing with this minor issue, looks like you're good to go on the HF10.
Sorry that I could not help you. Try reading the manual, it should say what mode to switch the camera to make it act as an external disk drive.
Also, you may have to use Canon's program for file transfer instead of Explorer. I've heard that one of the functions of Canon's program is to reconcile long clips into one big chunk, because AFAIK the camera cannot create a file larger than 2GB, that is about 15 minutes. If you shoot for longer, the camera creates another file. The Canon's utility combines the files back into one.
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Michael, Canon Elura User Pages ( elurauser.com )
compact power adapter.
2 Set the mode dial to and turn
on the camcorder.
3 Connect the camcorder to the
computer using the USB cable.
• Refer to Connection Diagrams in
the camcorder’s instruction
manual.
• If the device type selection screen
appears, select [ PC/PRINTER]
and press .
IMPORTANT
Before disconnecting the USB cable,
make sure to use the Safely Remove
Hardware function by clicking the icon in
the system tray to end the connection to
the camcorder.
- Pixela Software Manual
Check the USB setting in the [SYSTEM SETUP] menu (page 98 of your manual). It needs to be set to PC/PRINTER. Or try [CONNECT & SET] - pg. 104 manual under troubleshooting
This raises another question. The video files appear to be stored on the internal memory as *.mts files, when I use pixela to import them, it converts the files to *.m2ts files. So if I do get an extra flash card, how do I convert the mts files to m2ts files -- or is it as simple as manually changing the file name?
Finally, any suggestions to alternate software to use instead of pixela? I'm planning on switching to a mac soon, so pc or mac suggestions would be welcome.
For editing I use Sony Vegas, but it works under Windows only. B&H has bare version (no paper manual, no DVD burning tool) for $130.
As for best indoor settings, I'd rely on your programmed presets, which include Av, Portrait, Night, Sunset, and Spotlight.
As for alternatives, you could get an exernal hard drive to back up your footage. But in the end, you will still need to burn them to DVD to watch them on your TV. Your other option may include burning to standard dvds now, while archiving the footage on an external hard drive for later when the BR discs and burners drop in price. As for 60i mode, I would.
To reset the VIXIA HF10 or HF100 back to the factory defaults remove the battery and press the [Reset] button located on the back of the camcorder by using a small object such as a pen point.
After pressing the button reinstall the battery or connect the camcorder to AC power and turn the camcorder on. After the camcorder powers on reset the date and time and resume use.
Note: Resetting the camcorder has no effect on recordings stored on memory card or internal memory (HF10 only).
The HF10 is all solid state, but the extenal chips (if you go to 16Gb memory chips) is v. expensive.
I am looking to buy one of those this week.
I am also upgrading from a SD MiniDV Canon, and I use a Canon 20D for my photos.
I am really pumped up on the fact that I can record videos straight to the memory stick, i think this way there are less of things to break, since there aren't that many moving parts.
Please, any suggestions will be appreciated.
P.S. I am aware that the HV30 is using tapes, I am really wanting to get a good HD camcorder.
Now, comparing the the format of the HF cameras vs. the HV30, the differences are less stark as more and more video editors begin to support AVCHD, which is that both the HF10 and HF100 record in. I still prefer the HV30, but having used the HF10 (and written a review about it here ( digitalcamera-hq.com/camcor... )) I found it to be a very enjoyable experience. The only downside is that the software that comes with the camera is a drag. But outside of that, I found them quite comparable.
And with the HF series having a slightly larger CMOS chip (1.32 vs. 1.27 IIRC), that means better low light performance as well.
But I do believe your concerns over moving parts and breakage are a rather unfounded and are counterbalanced with the fact that having a tape source is of benefit should something happen to the original video files.
Also, there is a firmware update ( usa.canon.com/consumer/cont... ). I would download and install it. It could address some of the issues relating to your camcorder. But in the end, if they no longer play, you may need to use a third party file recovery utility to restore the files. But I would consult Canon directly on that before trying it. I'd also try another computer. And, you can also try clicking on "My computer" then right click on the icon for your camera. Select explore. You should see a bunch of folders and files. Copy them onto your PC. Then, reset your camera. It may be that your firmware is corrupted and they just need to be reloaded. If you still have an issue, then I'd talk to Canon while your camcorder is still under warranty.
Absent that, you may be looking at a data recovery service and that ain't cheap.
The only weakness is the supplied Pixella S/W which is well below the quality of the camera.
What I am learning the hard way is that when upgrading to HD cameras, if you are going to enjoy the HD quality you need to think
of how you are planning to edit, save and play HD video - and that could mean heaps of $$$$.
HD editors are becoming more readily available, but you still need to check that they will accept footage from the camera you are about to purchase.
Likewise downloading rendered footage back to the camera may not be possible with some editors.
Sure, if you have deep pockets you can go blu-ray with a burner and player.
best of luck!
Jack
The files from the camera (.m2ts) are best loaded to the PC using the Pixela S/w and then shifted to Pro 8.0. Editing in .m2ts work fine, but then comes the hassle in burning to full HD.
The only viable option offered by Pro is to use MPEG2 data conversion. That worked Ok (except aspect ration is slightly out), but no sound. Another week of frustration to find that MPEG2 is a video only compression and will never pick up the audio stream!
Eventually find a button (In Sony DVD Architecture) on the MPEG2 window that says "AUDIO". There you find the audio can be picked up and converted with the video in .mpg format.
Since then Sony has updated Pro to 8.1 and Studio Plat to 9.0,
There is still no mention in the manuals on how to burn video and sound in full HD Blu-ray (which you will need for video play times approaching 1 hour.)
Strongly advise you trial test both editing software for AVCHD editing and Blu-ray burning.
Incidently the new Sony 300S burner, just released , comes with a free stripped down version of Cyberlink Power2Go which claims to burn Blu-ray.
I would be interested in hearing if it works?
There's a workaround though. Burning Blu-Ray onto standard DVDs. It can be done and it’s a lot easier to burn Blu-ray on regular DVDs than anyone thought.
You can do it with NERO, or Toast, on the Mac. Nero Vision will burn it to a DVD-R, but you need to do it at 1080i. You'll still a Blu-Ray player to play it back and it’s only about 20 minutes worth on regular DVDs, but it's a stop gap until Blu-Ray burning becomes viable..
Oh, and there's another option. Importing your video at 540p. It will reduce the quality very little, but the file size is reduced dramatically. So you get the best of both worlds.
Unfortunately Canon decided to make the component video output specific to each country, so you will need a PAL version HF10 to play outside USA.
Use can of course use the camera to record in Spain and view in NTSC from the component video output on your return to the USA.
Not sure if internal storage vs card is important (is it?) and without knowledge regarding different canon models - IS THERE A GOOD OVERALL CANNON COMPARISON CHART/GUIDE ?
- Tradeoffs re: internal media storage v card
- Does it make sense to consider 2008 models (H10) v 2009 (HF100)
- You're recommendations for mid-range Canon models?
How to restore the settings to factory settings using RESET button.
In which mode to press the button and for how long?
will it give any indication on lcd screen on pressing the RESET button.
should the battery be inserted when pressing the RESET button or should the compact power adaptor be put on AC mains when we press the RESET button.
pls help!
Anuraag.