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unavailable 33 pts
August 11, 2007 9:24 PM
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So whys F20 a C, anyhow questions Have a 1GB memory card but only 14 minutes of Movie?? (on contary Nikon l11 gave me 1hr 30 w/ 1gb..

So what do I do to get more movie on the Fuji F20 (the nikon l11 gave me 1hr 30 min with 1 gb card so why isnt this one if its quality issue is there a way to give me more movie time maybe fujis different camera needs a way to change a setting Fuji F20 1gb card only 14 min so do I need to format the card or do something else?

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by James DeRuvo (byjamesderuvo) 58448 pts
August 13, 2007 4:08 PM
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Well, there's the editor's rating, and then there's user voting. User voting (letter grade) can get a bit skewed early on if there's a negative review and it takes a few days for it to work itself out. Example, a few weeks ago, the Olympus SP-550UZ had three reviews and was listed as a D-. A few days later, more people had voted and it's now up to a solid B+ (which as an owner, I believe is a more accurate grade).

So, in the absence of a wider sample, I'd tend to default to the editor's star rating unless I have personal experience with the camera. IMHO, of course.

That's about right. It has to do with resolution settings. These are at full rez. You can increase that by lowering the rez, but you end up with a video that's only suitable to attach to email.
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unavailable 33 pts
August 14, 2007 12:26 AM
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cool, you know how I can give myself more movie time
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by James DeRuvo (byjamesderuvo) 58448 pts
August 15, 2007 2:11 AM
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I don't think you can. It may be a firmware thing. My opinion though is if video is your concern, you're better off getting a video camera that happens to shoot stills as well. There are many that have up to 6MP these days. And you don't get the time limitation (other than the size of your recording medium).
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Matt (MAK1981) 6009 pts
August 15, 2007 7:37 AM
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The Sony DSC-W80 (correct me if I'm wrong, again!) gives unlimited video (limited to your storage, of course). It's a good camera, and fairly cheap at about $220. This may be a good camera if you're looking for the ability to take long video.

Note: F20 is a C+ now :)
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by James DeRuvo (byjamesderuvo) 58448 pts
August 15, 2007 4:40 PM
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A cheap Sony? Wow. LOL. Thanks for the heads up, Matt. However, the downside to the Sony is the Memory Stick. You can only use it with Sony products (except you can plug it into a usb memory card reader for any PC). That's what really bugs me. Sony makes fine products - some of the best in the industry - but thanks to their obsession with cornering their customers into proprietary technologies such as the memory stick, you end up paying more and doing less with it. IMHO.

But the W80 is a good camera.
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unavailable 33 pts
August 15, 2007 5:51 PM
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cool but i dont want to buy sony. also I thought first thought you said theres a way to do it oower the resolution so I get mmore minutes in my F20. Cause the Nikon l11 gives me an hour with a 1GB.
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Matt (MAK1981) 6009 pts
August 15, 2007 6:03 PM
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You can change your video setting to 320x240 (I think that's what the resolution ends up being). Or from 60fps to 30fps. Those should all increase the amount of time you can get at any set memory. Basically, each second takes up less MB on your memory card. Like James said, though, many cameras have actual TIME limits, regardless of what quality setting your video is at. It'll be in your manual, or just set your video setting to the bare minimum and see what the camera gives you for recording :)

I don't blame you for not wanting Sony. Trust me, it was hard to recommend the W80, but I'm fair when it matters ;) In terms of not being able to use your memory stick for anything else...... well, I only use my memory stick for my camera, so I don't know what the fuss is all about, hehe. And with memory cards becoming so cheap these days (yes, even the Sony Duo and Pro Duo cards!) it's becoming more of a non-issue.
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unavailable 33 pts
August 15, 2007 6:24 PM
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Yea the only thing I have with this is it uses the XD card not standard, I heard some ppl having xd card errors when they try to read thier pics wonder whats that all about. But ill try to look at the manual to see if I can change toe res and give me more Movie recording time.
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by James DeRuvo (byjamesderuvo) 58448 pts
August 15, 2007 8:30 PM
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I've been using Olympus for awhile now and have zero card errors with the xD I have for it. Any card can suffer an error, Unavailable. I don't think that's really an issue.
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Matt (MAK1981) 6009 pts
August 16, 2007 6:49 AM
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True. xD cards are no more susceptible to card errors than SD. It depends on brand name, age and plain-old bad luck. Don't base anything off xD card errors. My girlfriend, for instance, has been using a very old 64MB xD card for 4 years now, with no problem. I just bought her a 2GB xD card. With my luck, THAT'S the card that will go bad, haha.
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by James DeRuvo (byjamesderuvo) 58448 pts
August 17, 2007 12:45 AM
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Well like I said, I've been using the same xD for nearly a year in heavy use. No errors so far. Workin' just fine. But sooner or later even the best will fail.
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unavailable 33 pts
August 23, 2007 12:09 AM
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Well looks like I was able to move the Movie res from 640 to 320 though it only gives me an extra 15 min, while the Nikon I had 1hr 30 min movie. Maybe it only wants superb quality?
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Matt (MAK1981) 6009 pts
August 23, 2007 6:46 AM
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Well, I read through your manual, unavailable. On page 137 of your manual, it states a 1GB card can hold 14.9 minutes of video at 640x480 and 29.3 minutes at 320x240. If you are using an xD card with a model number containing an "M", you'll want to reformat your card if you take a lot of pictures, as that can reduce recording time.

Here's the link; hopefully it works: http://www.fujifilm.com/products/digital_cameras/f/finepix_f20/images/FX_F20_E.pdf
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unavailable 33 pts
August 23, 2007 12:46 PM
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I got my manual and read it
so how come the nikon l11 gave me more rec time with 1 gig 1hr 30 (30 min is small for 1 g?)

Thank
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by James DeRuvo (byjamesderuvo) 58448 pts
August 24, 2007 12:43 PM
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Outstanding answer, Matt.

Unavail - Matt answers the question. If your memory card is going double duty, obviously the recording time is reduced.
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unavailable 33 pts
August 24, 2007 2:33 PM
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it didnt answer my q why the nikons 1 gig gives me more recording time
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(unavailable) 2 pts
August 24, 2007 2:42 PM
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Guess maybe theyre different cameras and no one new why the 1 gig on different cam gives more recording time
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Matt (MAK1981) 6009 pts
August 24, 2007 5:13 PM
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OK, I'm not sure how (unavailable) answered the question, but I'll answer it a little more for you now. The reason one camera (Nikon, in your case) may be able to record longer than another (Fuji) on the same size memory card is because the compression algorithms are different. If one camera (Fuji) takes 2MB per second of recording and another one (Nikon) uses a 1MB per second of recording routine, obviously the latter camera will record longer. Generally, Canon and Fuji movie compression is minimal, which allows the playback to be of higher quality, so that could explain why the Fuji recording is shorter.

Hopefully THAT answers your question.
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by James DeRuvo (byjamesderuvo) 58448 pts
August 24, 2007 5:46 PM
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I agree with Matt. It also largely depends on what format and codec it encodes in.
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unavailable 33 pts
August 24, 2007 10:24 PM
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Ok that is the best answer

thanks
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bukit97 (bukit97) 12611 pts
September 5, 2007 8:46 PM
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The answer actually lies in the setting that you choose to record the movie clips.

F20 allows you to take movie clips at only 2 settings, either 640x480 @30fps or 320x240 @30fps whereas Nikon L11 lets you do it at 640x480 @ 30fps, 320x240 @ 30fps, 320x240 @15 fps and 160x120 @15fps.

Both Matt and James have rightly pointed out that the recording time increases as the resolution decreases from 640x480 to 320x240 and I would expect it to increase further if the resolution goes down to 160x120 which Fuji F20 can't do.

Similarly, the fps ( frame per second) would affect the recording time. At 15 fps, the 1 gb card would record more movie clips than at 30 fps and again Fuji F20 has no such option.

So looking from this point of view, you probably are right that Nikon L11 can record longer hours of movie clips than Fuji F20 and the difference lies in the fact that Nikon L11 can take movie clips at much lower resolution and fps.

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