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Sony Cybershot T77
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Ace Frank (AFrank) 0 pts
November 30, 2008 2:36 PM
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how do you take black and white pictures with this camera? I can't find the icon.

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by James DeRuvo (byjamesderuvo) 58446 pts
December 5, 2008 2:48 AM
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It would be in the menu settings if available at all. But frankly, I'd rather take care of it in a photo editor like Adobe Photoshop Elements or Picasa by Google (which is free). Gives me much more options and if I don't like what I see, I can just hit UNDO.
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bukit97 (bukit97) 12611 pts
December 12, 2008 2:05 AM
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In the shooting mode, touch ' Menu " icon, touch down arrow until you see Color mode.
Touching Color mode will reveal the Black & White icon.
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kenson (kenson) 0 pts
December 17, 2008 10:51 PM
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Don't think there is a color mode available...
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kenson (kenson) 0 pts
December 17, 2008 11:07 PM
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The only function that available is the Partial color function. So after you have taken your photo, go to the preview mode and then touch on "Menu" icon.
Touch at the down arrow to list icon menu 2/4 and touch on the Retouch icon. Once you are there touch on the partial color.
Hope this help.
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by James DeRuvo (byjamesderuvo) 58446 pts
December 18, 2008 1:43 AM
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Whereas, if you do it with software, you have complete control, nearly unlimited options, and the ability to "undo" and try something else.
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bukit97 (bukit97) 12611 pts
December 18, 2008 6:08 AM
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kenson,
There is a Color Mode under shooting Menu. If you still can't find it, go to page 46 of your manual, download a copy from this site if you haven't got one.

Come to think of it, James is right, most picture viewer will change your color picture to black and white, and revert back to color if you don't like it. Sony, like a few camera manufacturers, just keep the B&W function as an option for those who want it right from the camera.
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kenson (kenson) 0 pts
December 18, 2008 9:03 AM
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Bukit97,

Yeah I have my manual here with me because just brought it yesterday, but in actual there is not such icon available at my T77 photo shooting mode. It only available during camera shooting mode.

Ace frank,

I think we might facing the same issues here, have you try to switch to the camera shooting mode? If yes you be able to see the color mode & WB Auto Icon at the menu icon list.

In the mean time. I will check with the Sony Center and verify whether is due to the defect factory application setting that cost this problems. Will keep you guys update.
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bukit97 (bukit97) 12611 pts
December 18, 2008 8:59 PM
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Kenson,
If you have got the manual, then your problem is solved.
But if you load the digital manual in pdf form on the computer, the search will be much faster and more convenient.

Incidentally, when it is on the computer, a search for ' photo shooting mode' , or ' camera shooting mode' will draw a blank, whereas if you search for ' shooting mode' it will lead you to the Menu at page 45 with the Color Mode on page 46.

With the subject clarified, the question is closed, at least for me. I propose to mark James answer as the best given another two or three weeks or when the ' best answer' logo appears for me to click.

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kenson (kenson) 0 pts
December 18, 2008 9:12 PM
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Bukit97,

Please don't just base on the what the manual said, in actual fact those icon was not there at my T77. So don't just simple close the issue.

And I don't care who going to get the best given answer, what I care is I able to identify and solve the problem.

Do you see the question? "Can't find the ICON"???
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bukit97 (bukit97) 12611 pts
December 19, 2008 12:02 AM
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kenson,
visualize the digital camera as a mini computer.
Under the home page, there is the shooting icon, the viewing icon and so on.
Touch the shooting icon leads you to a page where more functions are shown, but many are still hidden due to lack of space.

Touch the Display option at the bottom right hand corner let you access the rest of the hidden icons/options and B&W is one of them if you now touch the shooting menu.

James is right when he said it is under the menu. He is right again when you replied to your Dec 17 feedback about Retouching the picture after it is taken - the Partial Color function.
You were nearly there when you are able to access the Retouching option. Just that you were accessing the View Menu and not the Shooting Menu.

The original question asked for icon for taking B&W with the camera, not retouching colored pictures.
So James is right all the way and deserve the award of points. This closes the question.


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by James DeRuvo (byjamesderuvo) 58446 pts
December 19, 2008 5:22 AM
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Kenson, have you followed up with Sony customer service on this? What happens when you reset/re-initialize the camera?
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mobrien 31 pts
December 19, 2008 8:26 AM
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I too am having the same problem as kenson.

I go into shooting mode, click menu, and have only 8 options to click on They are (in order).

Image size, scene recognition, face detection, smile detection sensitivity, REC mode, EV, red eye reduction and shooting setting.

Now according to the manual the "color mode" option should be in this menu but for some reason is absent along with a few other options such as focus, white balance, underwater white balance, flash level anti blink, DRO, and steady shot, which all appear in the manual but do NOT appear in the menu while in shooting mode.

EDIT: Solved it :) When in shooting mode you must select the REC mode button (one above menu) and set it to auto exposure with adjustable settings (little PGM icon). This will allow you to select color mode =).

I put this issue down to a crappy manual from Sony. Great camera otherwise.
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bukit97 (bukit97) 12611 pts
December 19, 2008 5:48 PM
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mobrien,
most people will see only the 8 options in shooting mode.
As I said, the rest is hidden under the individual options, just like the folders and subfolders of computer.

The main control is the ' Display ' button at the bottom right hand corner. Touch this button opens up 3 more options :
a. Normal, displays buttons and icons
b. Simple, displays buttons only
c. Hides buttons and icons

What user needs is to select the ' Normal ' option before they can see the icons.
By using the REC button, you can also set the display to Normal as you have described but using the Display button is the direct approach.

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kenson (kenson) 0 pts
December 21, 2008 3:36 AM
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Mobrien,

Thanks man, I have confirm with the SONY center, those icons (Color mode, White Balance) are only available under "PGM" mode. So when you on the rest of the mode those option will be automatically set.

James,

Hope mobrien detail steps able to help you.

Cheers.
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by James DeRuvo (byjamesderuvo) 58446 pts
December 22, 2008 3:01 PM
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Well done, MoBrian!
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Daniel L 1 pts
December 26, 2008 10:17 PM
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GUYS! HERE IS AN EASY SOLUTION I HAVE JUST FOUND!!

YOUR CAMERA (t77) CANNOT BE IN "AUTO" SHOOTING MODE
CHOOSE "PROGRAM" MODE AND THEN SCROLL THROUGH THE MENU AND YOU WILL FIND BLACK AND WHITE, SEPHIA, VIVID...ETC...

YOUR WELCOME lol
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Elizabeth 4 pts
December 29, 2008 1:42 AM
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Daniel is right, when you turn on your camera on the bottom left you will most likely see AUTO, press that and go into "PGM" mode.
then go to menu and scroll down and color menu will appear. then you will have your options of normal, vivid, sepia, and black & white.
I was getting really mad at first but once you download the manual to your computer it helps out alot.
Elizabeth
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by James DeRuvo (byjamesderuvo) 58446 pts
December 29, 2008 2:46 PM
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It still doesn't take away from this fact - today’s digital cameras will shoot the image in color and then convert to black and white. It won't adjust to accentuate shadow or create contrast, it'll just strip the color and use a very basic and bland black/gray/white scheme. The result will seldom be Ansel Adams. So why not change it in software - where you have more contrast & shadow control, more options, and an undo button if you want to alter further?
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gayle 0 pts
January 19, 2009 8:55 AM
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i have the same problem, i don't see the color mode icon....
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gayle 0 pts
January 19, 2009 8:57 AM
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sheesh! found it! thanks elizabeth!
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hananh 0 pts
February 18, 2009 7:37 AM
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thnx everyone i thought it just didnt have color mode!!!
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