Fuji FinePix F650
Fuji FinePix F650
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Fuji FinePix F650
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Another entry into the "Giant LCD" category, the ultra compact Fuji F650 has a 3.0 inch LCD and a big 5x optical zoom so you can get up close and personal with your subjects. These features alone move the Fuji F650 to the top tier of ultra compact cameras; the only thing this model is lacking in is size. A 6 megapixel sensor will provide your big screen with crisp and detailed shots ready to be shared with your friends or printed for posterity.
Specifications
- 6 megapixels
- 5x optical zoom / 4.4x digital zoom
- auto focus
- auto exposure
- ISO 64-400
- JPEG file format
- movie mode w/sound
- lithium ion battery
- 3.0 inch LCD
- xD-Picture card storage (32MB internal)
- Part Number: F650
- UPC: 741014400300
- Release Date: Mar 03, 2006
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Fuji FinePix F650 Comments & Questions (write your own!)
HELPP (black — 07/17/2011)
my jst camera wont recognize how do i make it recgonize help plsz
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xp10 camera (dfell@shaw.ca — 11/20/2010)
I have a need to find some operational instructions when it comes to shooting vidio
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"Where" can I buy a battery and charger for the F650? (lost mine) I love this camera! (tinajj — 10/23/2008)
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by James DeRuvo (11/03/2008)
After directly from Fuji, probably your best bet is eBay. But what you want to beware of is counterfeit batteries. These are batteries which look official, but are copies made with inferior materials which can cause the battery to overheat and even explode. My recommendation is to go with Fuji direct.
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tinajj (11/04/2008)
Thanks, I will do that :) Much appreciated.
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my display has blurry vertical lines ??? (Cassandra648 — 08/21/2008)
blurry vertical lines on display
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by James DeRuvo (08/25/2008)
First thing I would do is reset the camera. This is a fairly easy procedure which involves either going into your setup menu and choosing "reset" (or intialize), holding down the menu key for 5 seconds, or, removing the batteries for a few minutes. It may be that the firmware loading got corrupted and the camera just needs to be "rebooted," which is something that turning it on/off won't accomplish. But after which, you should have the camera reset to factory default settings.
Another tip is to go to Fuji's website and look for firmware updates. Download and install them.
Outside of that, you may need to get with Fuji to talk about a repair. Ask if this was under the faulty CCD service advisory that pertains to the F700.
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Another tip is to go to Fuji's website and look for firmware updates. Download and install them.
Outside of that, you may need to get with Fuji to talk about a repair. Ask if this was under the faulty CCD service advisory that pertains to the F700.
Thank YOU! (Heather G — 11/20/2011)
My camera is less than a year old and we were getting the blurry lines. My husband was convinced that the camera was dead and wanted to pitch it. I'm so, so thankful that I found this! I reset it and it didn't seem better, but then I took the batteries out for a minute and voila! Good as new! Thanks so much! :)
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what kind of card do i need for memory (raania — 03/29/2008)
do i need sd or xd?
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Larry (03/29/2008)
xD for sure according to dpreview.com. Only very recently has Fuji begun making cameras which accept both SD and xD cards.
The problem with xD cards is they come in a few types including "standard", M, and H so there can be compatibility issues both with the camera and the computer slot. Typically, the computer compatibility can be resolved with an xD card reader which connects via USB.
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The problem with xD cards is they come in a few types including "standard", M, and H so there can be compatibility issues both with the camera and the computer slot. Typically, the computer compatibility can be resolved with an xD card reader which connects via USB.
by James DeRuvo (04/02/2008)
And then you can download with a simple drag and drop and then try Picasa ( picasa.google.com/ ) to. It's a much better photo management tool. And it's free!
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Larry (04/02/2008)
Raania,
Yes, you definitely want to download Picasa free from Google as recommended by James DeRuvo. It's easy to learn to use and it's free. Plus, it does lots of other good stuff too such as lighten up photos which are too dark.
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Yes, you definitely want to download Picasa free from Google as recommended by James DeRuvo. It's easy to learn to use and it's free. Plus, it does lots of other good stuff too such as lighten up photos which are too dark.
by James DeRuvo (04/04/2008)
Not to mention really good red eye reduction. ;)
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underwater houseing for f650 is one available? (jakeatyork — 02/24/2008)
trying to obtain above if available. thank you for your help
regards alan
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regards alan
by James DeRuvo (03/03/2008)
You bet. ( store.aikotradingstore.com/... )
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jakeatyork (03/03/2008)
cases for most fuji cameras but only a soft case for 650 really wanted a solid case if available.
thanks for your response.
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thanks for your response.
by James DeRuvo (03/04/2008)
Look at the very bottom of the page. There's the DiCAPac WP-300 which allows you to take your F650 to a depth of about 16 feet.
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why do you have $62.50 as a price next to it in the list? (marjiemohror — 09/06/2007)
the Fuji Fine Pix F650...the merhants shown have it for double that...
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j. armijo (09/07/2007)
Marjorie, I agree with you . I went to my simon and found the cheapest price of 129.00 at www.thecameraprofessionals.com. This must be for the accessory kit. 1GB card,tripod,cleaning kit usb card reader etc. Even when this camera was first introduced in march 2006 I doubt it was 62 dollars.
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by James DeRuvo (09/07/2007)
I fail to see this listed as such anywhere. My guess is that it was a typo that has since been corrected. Nobody's perfect and let's face it, technology advances according to Moore's law and as such, it happens pretty fast and furiously.
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Use in Sport Mode (Andy101 — 02/27/2007)
The F650 states that you need to hold the shutter button down half way for it to focus. Does this hold ture in the sports mode. I will be going to a Nascar race next month and at the speeds the cars will be going I will not have time to hold the shutter down to focus. Does this camera work good taking fast moving object pictures?
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Andrew Skinner (02/28/2007)
Andy,
Holding the button half way down holds the focus at a specific distance. If you focus the distance before the cars get there, you can push the button down the rest of the way as the cars go by. I hope this helps.
Andrew
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Holding the button half way down holds the focus at a specific distance. If you focus the distance before the cars get there, you can push the button down the rest of the way as the cars go by. I hope this helps.
Andrew
hoosier65 (03/01/2008)
This camera takes GREAT action shots...
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Can you use the fuji finepix F650 as a webcam? If so, how can you do that? (mrsh08 — 02/22/2007)
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by James DeRuvo (02/22/2007)
Most digital still cameras can't be used as webcams due to no drivers being available. There are third party drivers ( beausoft.com/ezindex.html ) out there, but they are hit and miss as to compatibility.
I didn't find anything at FujiFilm on how to make the 650 a webcam. Sony has a procedure for theirs ( esupport.sony.com/perl/tuto... ).
Another issue is power. If you have an AC adapter for your camera, I suppose it isn't an issue, but relying solely on battery power won't get you too much time.
Now a video camera. That makes sense as a webcam.
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I didn't find anything at FujiFilm on how to make the 650 a webcam. Sony has a procedure for theirs ( esupport.sony.com/perl/tuto... ).
Another issue is power. If you have an AC adapter for your camera, I suppose it isn't an issue, but relying solely on battery power won't get you too much time.
Now a video camera. That makes sense as a webcam.
Emily (01/17/2008)
Can i use my FinePix Z3 as a webcam? if so, how do i do that?
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Helge (10/28/2008)
The following applies to Windows XP. If you’re on another O/S, the procedures will differ.
A FinePix A210 is also a FujiFilm camera, so its webcam procedures may also apply to the F650. An A210 can be used as a webcam relatively simply, but has to be in PC Cam USB mode, which is turned on in the camera's blue Set-up function’s USB entry. The other USB mode, DSC, is what you use to employ the camera as a storage device (for accessing its internally-stored photos and -recorded -- silent [:(] on the A210 -- AVI movies), or otherwise using its data files — e.g., for transferring data, backup, etc.
When a camera’s attached to the computer’s USB system in PC Cam-mode the first time, Windows’ USB enumerator should ask you to insert the Fujifilm-camera CD that has the required drivers for it to install, or get these from Fujifilm.com, put them on a drive, and point the dialog to their location, so they can be installed.
Once these are installed into Windows’ hardware subsystem, to capture the Webcam video from the camera, use the Windows MovieMaker (referred to as WMM hereafter) software that should’ve been installed, which you should find on your Start | Programs (click on it to start). As soon as it’s initialized, you should see its wizard in the pane at its left. The first option is 1. Capture Video. Clicking on its blue Capture from video device link will let you select the device, in the Available Devices group box in the dialog that follows. If your video device has no audio (no microphone), you MAY be able also to capture audio from a separate feed simultaneously (such as your computer’s sound card) by fiddling with the selection tools below the video ones to have it select an audio source from which to merge in sound for your video. You may have to experiment with several takes and the Input Level slider to get the volume you like.
Clicking on Next opens a new dialog in which you select the name of the movie file to which MovieMaker will save the webcam session. Give it a name (Emily's video, for example), and click Next.
Usually, just click Next in the ensuing dialog to begin recording, unless you need to change quality, etc., and know what you're doing.
The Capture Video dialog you now see will show the video feed you’re about to capture from your camera, whose flashing red LED should be telling you that it’s connected and sending. When you’re ready, click on Start Capture, and give yourself some time to settle into a natural mode to be recorded. Remember to look at the webcam’s lens, not the computer screen. and relax as much as possible. The first few seconds are usually pretty unnatural, because you’re getting used to being on camera. A way to minimize this is to use the keyboard accelerator {Alt}+C that your fingers are already poised over, since you won’t have to look at the mouse pointer to ensure it's over the button. When you’re done. Click on the Stop Capture button (or hit its accelerator {Alt}+T).
The finished clip’ll appear in the Collection pane, and you can then proceed with viewing & editing (cut | splice, etc.) what you captured. See WMM’s Help at the bottom of the wizard pane for options & procedures.
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A FinePix A210 is also a FujiFilm camera, so its webcam procedures may also apply to the F650. An A210 can be used as a webcam relatively simply, but has to be in PC Cam USB mode, which is turned on in the camera's blue Set-up function’s USB entry. The other USB mode, DSC, is what you use to employ the camera as a storage device (for accessing its internally-stored photos and -recorded -- silent [:(] on the A210 -- AVI movies), or otherwise using its data files — e.g., for transferring data, backup, etc.
When a camera’s attached to the computer’s USB system in PC Cam-mode the first time, Windows’ USB enumerator should ask you to insert the Fujifilm-camera CD that has the required drivers for it to install, or get these from Fujifilm.com, put them on a drive, and point the dialog to their location, so they can be installed.
Once these are installed into Windows’ hardware subsystem, to capture the Webcam video from the camera, use the Windows MovieMaker (referred to as WMM hereafter) software that should’ve been installed, which you should find on your Start | Programs (click on it to start). As soon as it’s initialized, you should see its wizard in the pane at its left. The first option is 1. Capture Video. Clicking on its blue Capture from video device link will let you select the device, in the Available Devices group box in the dialog that follows. If your video device has no audio (no microphone), you MAY be able also to capture audio from a separate feed simultaneously (such as your computer’s sound card) by fiddling with the selection tools below the video ones to have it select an audio source from which to merge in sound for your video. You may have to experiment with several takes and the Input Level slider to get the volume you like.
Clicking on Next opens a new dialog in which you select the name of the movie file to which MovieMaker will save the webcam session. Give it a name (Emily's video, for example), and click Next.
Usually, just click Next in the ensuing dialog to begin recording, unless you need to change quality, etc., and know what you're doing.
The Capture Video dialog you now see will show the video feed you’re about to capture from your camera, whose flashing red LED should be telling you that it’s connected and sending. When you’re ready, click on Start Capture, and give yourself some time to settle into a natural mode to be recorded. Remember to look at the webcam’s lens, not the computer screen. and relax as much as possible. The first few seconds are usually pretty unnatural, because you’re getting used to being on camera. A way to minimize this is to use the keyboard accelerator {Alt}+C that your fingers are already poised over, since you won’t have to look at the mouse pointer to ensure it's over the button. When you’re done. Click on the Stop Capture button (or hit its accelerator {Alt}+T).
The finished clip’ll appear in the Collection pane, and you can then proceed with viewing & editing (cut | splice, etc.) what you captured. See WMM’s Help at the bottom of the wizard pane for options & procedures.
ella (03/28/2009)
i know this has been askec repeated, but i have a fujifiln s1000fd, is there any driver available anywhere that i can setupwebcam
thanks
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thanks
How much does an extra battery cost? I understand it does not take AA batteries. (val28q — 01/08/2007)
How much extra expense can I expect if I purchase this camera?
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Joe (01/08/2007)
An extra battery for the Fuji F650 costs $40.00 retail. Check them out at <a href="amazon.com/dp/accessories/B... For the best deals</a>.
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bukit97 (01/08/2007)
Val,
Lithium ion batteries, as required by this camera, will cost about $36.50 and the charger about $52 if you check with www.BatteryValues.com
On top of that you need to purchase separately the xD memory card and a camera case.
Prices do vary slightly depending on whether you opt for the original Fuji accesories or compatible products.
All in you would expect to pay around 30% more besides the original price of the camera.
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Lithium ion batteries, as required by this camera, will cost about $36.50 and the charger about $52 if you check with www.BatteryValues.com
On top of that you need to purchase separately the xD memory card and a camera case.
Prices do vary slightly depending on whether you opt for the original Fuji accesories or compatible products.
All in you would expect to pay around 30% more besides the original price of the camera.
val28q (01/09/2007)
I thank you both very much. Joe's answer was fastest, which I really appreciate, but Bukit97's answer was more complete in answering my (second) question.
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Looking for a spare backup battery for Fujifilm F650 digital camera (aggs69man — 01/04/2007)
My camera came with a NP-40 3.6v 730Mah. Cant seem to find that specific one and I dont want to use a incorrect volt or mah which i dont really understand the difference. I've seen similar NP-40 batteries but they were 3.7v and 750 mah? Is that safe to use?
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magnum (01/04/2007)
as long as the battery mah are within 200mah of each other its fine. but any battery that says np-40 should work fine circuit city has them for $40
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Sarah (01/04/2007)
Actually, I found it cheaper with Best Buy and it is the exact battery for your camera. It is 3.6v and 710mah, which is slightly different, and although the exact model number isn't listed, it is the battery that is recommended by the manufacturer. Also, it is only $39. bestbuy.com/site/olspage.js...
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K75rider (01/05/2007)
Brand New Digital Camera Lithium Ion battery for Fuji NP40 (3.7 Volts 780mAh).
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"One Year Warranty!" $9.00
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Sarah (01/06/2007)
But would it be bad that the voltage is higher than what the camera needs. I know it is okay to go lower, but what about higher?
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Isaac Panaretos (01/16/2008)
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F650 has no image stabilization, are there any cameras with 5x, 3inLCD and6+mp? (bananahamock — 12/28/2006)
I boght the F650 but it has no image stabilization. I bought it because of the5x optical zoom, the 3in. LCD and it has 6 megapixels. Any suggestions on a camera with everything included?
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Ardi Ounapuu (12/28/2006)
Yes, the Sony DSC H5 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ) meets all your requirements.
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Is image stabilization that important? (nanananaheyheyheygoodbuy — 12/27/2006)
I just purchased a Fuji FinePix F650(still in box) for my girlfriend, who suddenly knows all about digicams,(just joking) while I am under informed. She insists on image stablization, is it that important and should I keep the F650 for myself.
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prumps (12/27/2006)
I think its very important. Basically it helps compensate for camera shake. This will be most noticeable if you are zoomed in (camera shake is exaggerated with zoom), and in low light conditions. You'll get all around crisper shots.
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Is Polaroid a520M 5.1-Megapixel Breast Cancer Awareness Digital Camera worth $99 dollars (dennismo1 — 12/26/2006)
It has 5.1-megapixel , 4x digital zoom, 2" LCD screen, Designer color, Video mode, PictBridge compatible
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Ben Keough (12/28/2006)
Hi Morgan,
Surprisingly, given its low price and the fact that Polaroid haven't exactly made a big splash in the digital camera business, many users seem to love this camera. However, when they say it's great, that statement is usually accompanied by a "for the price". You can see many such reviews here ( circuitcity.com/ssm/Custome... ).
Personally, I'd save up a bit more to get into the $150-200 range and go for a Fuji F650 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ) or a Panasonic LZ3 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ), as they're much more full-featured cameras at not that much higher of a price. For the extra $$$ you get optical zoom, manual control over settings like shutter speed and aperture, and all around better build quality.
That said, if you just want to point and shoot and you don't care about the extra bells & whistles, the Polaroid might meet your needs. Just remember that in digital cameras as in most things, you tend to get what you pay for.
Good luck!
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Surprisingly, given its low price and the fact that Polaroid haven't exactly made a big splash in the digital camera business, many users seem to love this camera. However, when they say it's great, that statement is usually accompanied by a "for the price". You can see many such reviews here ( circuitcity.com/ssm/Custome... ).
Personally, I'd save up a bit more to get into the $150-200 range and go for a Fuji F650 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ) or a Panasonic LZ3 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ), as they're much more full-featured cameras at not that much higher of a price. For the extra $$$ you get optical zoom, manual control over settings like shutter speed and aperture, and all around better build quality.
That said, if you just want to point and shoot and you don't care about the extra bells & whistles, the Polaroid might meet your needs. Just remember that in digital cameras as in most things, you tend to get what you pay for.
Good luck!
Annabelle (01/02/2007)
This camera is terrible! Do not buy it, TRUST ME! Waste of money even if it is only $99. I got mine as Christmas prestent from Circuit City because I needed a new digital camera and love the color pink. I got it and new it looked a little cheap. I played around with it, took pictures and the images were horrible!! If you're taking a close up with the flash your face is completely washed out! If you take it without a flash the image is so dark. Far away picutes also are bad. I was at a party and a friend had the Casio Exilim? and I held the exact images up next to each other and the difference was enormous. Please trust me and dont waste your money and time, spend a bit more for a better camera and you will not regret it. If you buy this cheap one, trust me you will regret it and return it as did I within a week. I now have the Kodak V705 in pink..No comparision. SO much better than the garbage polaroid!!! Be wise, dont buy this!!!!
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LOOKING FOR JST DSC-812 DIGITAL CAMERA (dlt1116 — 12/18/2006)
ANY INFORMATION ON 12.0MEGA PIXELS JAPAN TECHNOLOGY "JST DIGITAL cAMERA DSC-812"
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Ben Keough (12/18/2006)
Hi Debbie,
The fact that neither you nor I can find any information about this camera probably means that it's not worth finding out about. When it comes to digital cameras, if you've never heard of the brand, that's probably because they're not worth hearing about. There are several low-end manufacturers producing very cheap digitals, but they're also very low quality and support for them is bound to be non-existent. You'd be much better off saving up a little more money and hitting up one of the lower-end cameras from a major brand. Say... the Panasonic LZ3 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ), the Panasonic LS2 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ), or the Fuji F650 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ). Good luck!
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The fact that neither you nor I can find any information about this camera probably means that it's not worth finding out about. When it comes to digital cameras, if you've never heard of the brand, that's probably because they're not worth hearing about. There are several low-end manufacturers producing very cheap digitals, but they're also very low quality and support for them is bound to be non-existent. You'd be much better off saving up a little more money and hitting up one of the lower-end cameras from a major brand. Say... the Panasonic LZ3 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ), the Panasonic LS2 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ), or the Fuji F650 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ). Good luck!
Debbie Thompson (01/25/2007)
Thanks so much I unfortunately already bought the camera in New York and got the royal rip. Live and Learn thanks so much for your help
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Ann Quinn (03/04/2007)
I also bought a JST Digital Camera in New York in Broadway Camera Store at Time Square can't get it to charge , Have you tried calling store or sending it back I paid nearly $2000 USA for it they saw me coming!!!!! I am trying to get back some of my money on Insurance Will let you know me email is quinna@bigpond.com
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dxfactor (03/16/2007)
hey hi everybody for whoever read this, i got 1 of this jst digital camera dsc-812 gray color it looks nice but i don't know about the cam i'm trying to find some info but there is no much so if someone know some about it please you can hit me up w a note i'm from ny i will apreciate if you can help me thnanks.
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Janne (03/21/2007)
I also bought a DSC-812 in New York, same shop. I however only paid 224 USD including a 1 GB Kingston SD card. The information I've found is that it's a Zoran Cache camera (they make the basic card and then anyone can add their own outer housing). Mine charges okey, but the pic quality leaves a lot more to be desired!
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Adam (03/27/2007)
I bought one that looks exactly like it as a 6megapixel camera by Fujida in Hong Kong about a year and a half ago. I've had intermittent issues with the SD interface (none prevented using the camera, just previewing the pictures already taken), and the video could use a few more frames per second, but other than that it's worked fine. It's still a great deal so far (~$380 US including extra battery and 1GB SD card) and I still get compliments on it (Red anodized cover) almost everywhere I take it.
I looked up the JST name because I saw some in electronics stores in NYC when I was there last weekend.
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I looked up the JST name because I saw some in electronics stores in NYC when I was there last weekend.
Janne (03/28/2007)
It's also sold under the brand Technaxx: tradera.com/auction/Foto__K...
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kathy (06/23/2007)
okay, i just bought one of these and now am thinking i too got the royal rip-off. the guy in the store told me there was a warranty, but i can't find a warranty card. what's the dilly?
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Snd (08/10/2007)
i bought a JST DVC-512 and it was great at first it look class and everything, he told me there was a flash on it but when i got home i didnt find a flash on it any where. i got it last Dec in NYC in the same shop ye are on about i think but the guy in the store told me it was a new brand and its a up coming brand and i believed him, its worked up until last month and i really want to get it working again so i was hoping to find a company that deals with JST and i cant find them any where so i wont buy a item of a brand i dont know really well cause now i'm kicking myself!!!
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diane m (08/28/2007)
i also bought the dsc-812 digital camera in new tork, it takes great pictures and i like it but i accidently broke the cd software and cannot find another anywhere can anyone helpme with that. email me at alldaytruckin@aol.com
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Liam Heffernan (09/03/2007)
I also bought a JST 12 mega pixels digital camera but unfortunately lost all components need to charge battery - Li-ion 3.7v700mAh - need a charger can anyone help.
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I G KUMAR (09/03/2007)
My deepest sympathies to Debbie, Ann and others who got ripped off by the camera store in Times Square Broadway!! Last night, we were at that store too....and would have almost got ripped off as well....the aggressive salesman there was offering it for $1500 with 2 1 GB SD Card free!! Thankfully, my better senses prevailed...and I somehow excused myself out of the store...and probably would not have managed it, if the store was not closing...it was 11pm. I would say this is sad...since there are no authorities who can control and stop this menace. I doubt if there will be any, as US prides itself in stating that its a FREE country believing in free capitalist economy....so every scoundrel, thief, mugger abound....BUT more so, there are what I can say are Smooth Operators like the Banks, Credit Card Cos, Travel Sites, Hotels who also rip you off....only that, they make you take your money out of your pocket and give it to them....in perfect legal umbrella and with management completely hidden thru call centers and front line staff who cant do much about it, once you are ripped off. SO BEWARE ALL who TRAVEL in THE US OF A !!
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Jeff (09/09/2007)
My wife was just in NYC and bought a JST DVC-712 from Embassy Electronics at 717 Seventh Avenue, is this the same shop others are reffering to? Got it back home and can't figure out how to download video clips. After looking in the rather impressive box that it came in there were no instructions other than documentation of what the buttons control. We left a message for "Mike" the salesperson to please call 2 days ago.
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William McDowelle (08/14/2010)
I bought JST 0n canal street in New Orleans while on vacation. It stopped working before I got home what a rip off. I have asked my credit card to decline payment I mailes the junk back to the store. I reported the store to the Better Business Bureau and to tje city Tourism Board. There is no on support
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William McDowelle (08/14/2010)
I bought JST 0n canal street in New Orleans while on vacation. It stopped working before I got home what a rip off. I have asked my credit card to decline payment I mailes the junk back to the store. I reported the store to the Better Business Bureau and to tje city Tourism Board. There is no on support
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William McDowelle (08/14/2010)
I bought JST 0n canal street in New Orleans while on vacation. It stopped working before I got home what a rip off. I have asked my credit card to decline payment I mailes the junk back to the store. I reported the store to the Better Business Bureau and to tje city Tourism Board. There is no on support
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William McDowelle (08/14/2010)
I bought JST 0n canal street in New Orleans while on vacation. It stopped working before I got home what a rip off. I have asked my credit card to decline payment I mailes the junk back to the store. I reported the store to the Better Business Bureau and to tje city Tourism Board. There is no on support
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debbie (09/16/2007)
Hi :) everybody I bough a digital camera at NYC, the digital camera 12 Megapixels is a JST DSC-812 and so far it has worked fine; however I am wondering whether it was worth it. I pay $250 for the camera then $29 for a 2.0 GB memory card, a total of $279. Then i told the salesman that the camera was too expensive!!! he only gave me a leather protection component for the camera for free, expressing that $279 was the final price. I still think that the camera with the 2.0 GB was too expensive!!!!! I wonder how much this camera is worth in other stores... I'm searching through the internet, but there is no information about it. If anybody paided more or less than that, please let me know.... my email address is devigemr@yahoo.com
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Jean Mi (09/16/2007)
Hi everybody!
Nice to see that I m not the only one having been ripped off in Broadway NYC. The worse is that I hesitated between a cheaper Sony and this *** of JST. I guess I got impressed by the slim black shape, large screen and the big letters saying 12 Megapixels. I was charged like 350 US, with memory cards. This camera takes OK pictures, BUT
1) The flash is too weak to take any pictures after 6 pm, and takes ages to charge back after each pictures
2) Has an 8X DIGITAL zoom, which is perfectly useless
3) Has softwares flaws, crashes sometimes
4) Doesn t adapt automatically to the light level, one has to do it MANUALLY, going through the menus !!!
5) My personal favourite: the colours and luminosity are different from what you see before taking the picture.
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Nice to see that I m not the only one having been ripped off in Broadway NYC. The worse is that I hesitated between a cheaper Sony and this *** of JST. I guess I got impressed by the slim black shape, large screen and the big letters saying 12 Megapixels. I was charged like 350 US, with memory cards. This camera takes OK pictures, BUT
1) The flash is too weak to take any pictures after 6 pm, and takes ages to charge back after each pictures
2) Has an 8X DIGITAL zoom, which is perfectly useless
3) Has softwares flaws, crashes sometimes
4) Doesn t adapt automatically to the light level, one has to do it MANUALLY, going through the menus !!!
5) My personal favourite: the colours and luminosity are different from what you see before taking the picture.
Rip off in New York (Clifford Johansson — 01/30/2010)
I went to New York to celebrate my 60´s and got rip off with a fake JST camcorder DVC -512 with a very impressive demonstration sound and package but.....too expensive, not working as it should and it impossible to get anything from that camera into the computor.....you never save money if you buy something cheap
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Ann Quinn (09/16/2007)
Why don't we all write a letter to Mayor of New York telling of our disgust that this camera store on Broadway is rippping us off and see if we get a response. I have tried calling the store but each time left hanging and then told you need to talk to ***** and he is not in today.
Regards
Ann Quinn
PS Would love to send you a photo of me but my JST digital camera is not working!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Regards
Ann Quinn
PS Would love to send you a photo of me but my JST digital camera is not working!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I G KUMAR (09/20/2007)
Ann,
Writing to the Mayor of NYC sounds good....but if I may add the kind of experiences I have had with the likes of Bank of America (theres a $ million class action suit (for selling the personal info database of the bank customers) from California which the bank is trying to settle off-court), Hertz, Marriott, Travelocity and the numerous rip-off Internet sites that skim few $ off your account every month....then I guess writing to the President may be needed!! LOL
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Writing to the Mayor of NYC sounds good....but if I may add the kind of experiences I have had with the likes of Bank of America (theres a $ million class action suit (for selling the personal info database of the bank customers) from California which the bank is trying to settle off-court), Hertz, Marriott, Travelocity and the numerous rip-off Internet sites that skim few $ off your account every month....then I guess writing to the President may be needed!! LOL
dlt1116 (09/20/2007)
To all of you that got ripped off at Broadway in N.Y. I was relentless in calling sending letters finally they exchanged the useless JST camera for a cheaper Olympus camera but at least it takes pictures at night. The only reason they did was a friend was in NY and made a stink in the store. I wish there was some way to warn others from shopping there! Maybe a letter to the mayor is a good idea or we could start a petition!
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Jeff (09/22/2007)
If everyone that has been ripped off would file a report with the NYC BBB (www.newyork.bbb.org) perhaps they might take some action. Anyone needing software you might try www.blazevideo.com.
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Jeff (09/22/2007)
DEBBIE THOMPSON
(dlt1116)
Who finally exchanged it for you? We have been calling and faxing and still getting the run around, I know hard to believe!
I filed a dispute with our credit card company but they gave no assurances.
It was interesting to see that they only have 1 complaint in the last 12 months to the BBB.
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(dlt1116)
Who finally exchanged it for you? We have been calling and faxing and still getting the run around, I know hard to believe!
I filed a dispute with our credit card company but they gave no assurances.
It was interesting to see that they only have 1 complaint in the last 12 months to the BBB.
jennifer doran (09/24/2007)
well, well, well..I disputed the charges with Amex to no avail..
It is despicable that this is going on in our country...somebody know a lawyer out there???
JST, Advanced digital lens..ouch..$ 7500,00!Jennifer doran
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It is despicable that this is going on in our country...somebody know a lawyer out there???
JST, Advanced digital lens..ouch..$ 7500,00!Jennifer doran
Lynne Snyder (09/30/2007)
I too was ripped off, but it was my own fault! I did not recognize the brand name of the camera, I thought the salesgirl was too pushy, yet I still bought the damn camera, hoping I was getting a "real bargain" I only paid $400 but that was about $375 more than the stupid thing is worth. Like we are warned constantly BUYER BEWARE!, and I really wasn't. So, I will chalk it up to experience, and you can bet it won't happen again. I do intend to notify the BBB in NYC, but I am sure nothing will come of it, as I believe that the BBB is also a big scam otherwise this master of rip off would have been closed long ago as I am sure there are many many people that have been scammed just like we were.
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rippedoff (10/20/2007)
I bought the DVC-712 also from embassy electronics, when I got back home the actual start button was missing, and that area broken. what a ripoff, but I am back in NYC next week and will be visiting them with a printoff of all these complaints.
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Eslie King (10/25/2007)
How amazing! I was looking for imformation on my recently bought DSC 812 (from Broadway Cameras NYC) when I came across this web site. The problem with mine is that as soon as there is no daylight there is no image! I also couldn't download the photos that I took in New York and when I put the memory card back in the camera all the images had been deleted.
My partner bought a laptop from the same store and has an unexplained debit for over $300 on his bank statement.
I'm not sure where we go from here but as so many of us have been ripped off ,there must be something we can do.
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My partner bought a laptop from the same store and has an unexplained debit for over $300 on his bank statement.
I'm not sure where we go from here but as so many of us have been ripped off ,there must be something we can do.
rippedoff (10/25/2007)
Hi Elsie, hopefully you paid with a debit or credit card, if so contact them and explain your situation, but first contact the store and complain, you will probably get a rejection, but thats what you need to give your card company the go ahead to chase it for you. good luck...
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Tim the muppet!) (11/07/2007)
Hi, just stumbled across this message board, after looking for info on DVC512! I went into the store with the sole intention of buying some speakers! Instead bought the 512, wide angle lense, 2 gig card for $1000, what a muppet!!!!! The first one I bought froze, returned to the store, they replaced it, the second one also stopped working after about an hour, spoke to the hotel manager re the laws in the USA. Armed with this info, I went back a third time, again they replaced it, (is there anyone reading this thinking I am an idiot?!!) However, used it for the remainder of my stay and it worked fine. Even at home after a month of regular use, it's still great and get loads of comments about it. Even so, please be aware, they must be on commission and see us mugs coming!! Still get my speakers!!
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rippedoff (11/07/2007)
Last week the House of Lords (UK) upheld the fact ‘Section 75’ protection applies when you buy things abroad. So buy something costing over £100 on your credit card and the card company is equally liable with the retailer if things go wrong. As faulty products bought abroad can be a nightmare to handle, this means you can simply call your card company instead, making it very valuable extra protection. Thus always spend on a credit card (not debit card) when buying valuables abroad
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Howie (11/19/2007)
Although I don't know exactly the model number but it does sound like the one everyone in this blog is talking about....JST camera. It is being offered on QVC and QVC.com for $234.96. A co-worker bought this and was showing it to me...it looks great and I was thinking of getting one myself...but all the negative feedback from all of you convinced me to look elsewhere. Although I feel your pain and agony...please know you have saved at least one person from spending hard earned money on crap.
Thank you all!!!!
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Thank you all!!!!
Franco (11/20/2007)
I am such a muppet after 2 hours being in new york i do the same jsut wanted to buy a camera and these guys did the same with me same thing i have been ripped of so bad , cant belive that in new york they allos this to go on .
Its bad enough to be ropped but then but the credit card compnay as well as they have the merchant status to allow this to go on .. i will be taking this further and please spread teh news the more people subscribe to this thread and leave and email the better .. gong to the sotr tomrrow to sort it out ,, but dont what good its going to do ..
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Its bad enough to be ropped but then but the credit card compnay as well as they have the merchant status to allow this to go on .. i will be taking this further and please spread teh news the more people subscribe to this thread and leave and email the better .. gong to the sotr tomrrow to sort it out ,, but dont what good its going to do ..
Ann Guish (11/26/2007)
Oh well, another mug was born this week. I cannot believe I was drawn into this ring of fire. My purchase of a JST 712 was completed after stepping into 51st Computers & Electronics 780 7th Avenue N.Y. The sales guy was really friendly, welcoming, personable and the ultimate conman who subsequently turned out to be a complete bastard!!
My tale follows the similar pattern to that of all the other threads, in that, I, for some reason purchased an inferior quality non branded product and SD cards for over 1300 dollars, this being a special offer to me because he liked me so much, incidentally he reduced the price from 2400 dollars obviously a very highly inflated price.
Having realised fairly quickly after purchasing, and then looking closer at the unit, it was clear I had been conned!.... I took advantage of going online in my hotel, and in doing so found this site, and my decision to take action immediately was based on the facts displayed in these threads.
I took the camcorder and SD cards back and requested a refund, but was told that refunds would not be given, only exchanges were possible. Bearing this in mind I went for the damage limitation option, and agreed to exchange the unit and cards for two branded items, both 2007 models. These, as with every other product in the shop were hugely overpriced and I had to negotiate carefully with them whilst liasing with a friend who had Internet access in England, this action was carried out in an attempt to recover my potential losses. Even though I paid over the top for both items, the alternative was to potentially lose everything!
I can only conclude by saying that nobody should venture anywhere near these outlets, if you do, be prepared to be lied to and cheated. Don't ask advice because they will tell you absolutely anything to get a sale, infact they will tell you the the inferior product which has a bigger profit for them, is far better than the superior product just so they can make the con even better for themselves. Better still don't even look in their windows, walk straight by..
This company and few others in New York are taking full advantage of tourists and preying on their vulnerability and should be reported, as I shall be doing in the very near future with the NYC BBB.
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My tale follows the similar pattern to that of all the other threads, in that, I, for some reason purchased an inferior quality non branded product and SD cards for over 1300 dollars, this being a special offer to me because he liked me so much, incidentally he reduced the price from 2400 dollars obviously a very highly inflated price.
Having realised fairly quickly after purchasing, and then looking closer at the unit, it was clear I had been conned!.... I took advantage of going online in my hotel, and in doing so found this site, and my decision to take action immediately was based on the facts displayed in these threads.
I took the camcorder and SD cards back and requested a refund, but was told that refunds would not be given, only exchanges were possible. Bearing this in mind I went for the damage limitation option, and agreed to exchange the unit and cards for two branded items, both 2007 models. These, as with every other product in the shop were hugely overpriced and I had to negotiate carefully with them whilst liasing with a friend who had Internet access in England, this action was carried out in an attempt to recover my potential losses. Even though I paid over the top for both items, the alternative was to potentially lose everything!
I can only conclude by saying that nobody should venture anywhere near these outlets, if you do, be prepared to be lied to and cheated. Don't ask advice because they will tell you absolutely anything to get a sale, infact they will tell you the the inferior product which has a bigger profit for them, is far better than the superior product just so they can make the con even better for themselves. Better still don't even look in their windows, walk straight by..
This company and few others in New York are taking full advantage of tourists and preying on their vulnerability and should be reported, as I shall be doing in the very near future with the NYC BBB.
rippedoff (11/26/2007)
Hi Ann,
sorry you fell into the same pit, could you please advise, what is--NYC BBB. and I for one will follow the same route, as should all the posters in this thread.
good luck
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Hi Ann,
sorry you fell into the same pit, could you please advise, what is--NYC BBB. and I for one will follow the same route, as should all the posters in this thread.
good luck
Antonella (12/10/2007)
Hi to all!
I'm on the same situation......i buy a video camera on this shop....they tell me the price (1400,00$)and then my refuse...they ask me if it's good 900$.....
and so....i buy this......
but now i see on web site that the rates of this camera is 240$.......
what can i do????????????
i payed with credit card......
help me
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I'm on the same situation......i buy a video camera on this shop....they tell me the price (1400,00$)and then my refuse...they ask me if it's good 900$.....
and so....i buy this......
but now i see on web site that the rates of this camera is 240$.......
what can i do????????????
i payed with credit card......
help me
Frank (12/30/2007)
Hi
I also purchased this JST-712 and cannot get this to down load to my computer
cannot locate company will also have to go to the BBB if I do not get help
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I also purchased this JST-712 and cannot get this to down load to my computer
cannot locate company will also have to go to the BBB if I do not get help
JS (01/20/2008)
I bought a JST dsc-812 on broadway at new york the the price on the box was 1200$ and i bought it for 80$ after 2hours of dealing! Its the worst camera I ever bought, can only take good picture if the light is perfect and really nothing moving. The batterie is already dead after 4month and they dont sold-it nowhere. The only good thing about this camera is the video in divx, you can make a movie of almost 2h on a 1gig sd card the quality is not so bad. But never pay more than 100$ for a cheap camera like this!
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David, Levy (01/21/2008)
HI, i am sorry to disappoint you guys but luckily i had a pleasant sale in one of those stores, somehow i was treated well and got what i wanted for a fair price.
I hope all of you guys can settle your problems amicably with your salespeople.
Good luck
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HI, i am sorry to disappoint you guys but luckily i had a pleasant sale in one of those stores, somehow i was treated well and got what i wanted for a fair price.
I hope all of you guys can settle your problems amicably with your salespeople.
Good luck
They saw me coming (01/23/2008)
I am sorry to say that I too was conned on Broadway, near Times Square, between 53rd & 54th street. Millennium Cameras. The salesman charmed me for 30 minutes and reduced the price from $1200 to $600. I really should have known better and listened to my husband! I only wanted a digital camera but came out with the 12 megapixel JST camcorder. I immediately realised it was no good but was told no refunds. Same scenario as above, got an Olympus in exchange. Thankfully it is a good camera but the deal cost me $700 (£360), I could get the camera here in the UK for £160. The other part of the con was that when I told the shop on my third return visit that another shop one block down was selling the Olympus for $149 ($500 less!) they sent their boy with us to check and would you believe it as soon as we got there the salesman there had 'just sold' the last one and swore it was $800 and we had been dreaming. WARNING TO ANYONE DO NOT BUY ANYTHING FROM THE CAMERA SHOPS ON BROADWAY AND TIMES SQUARE, THEY ARE CON MEN!!
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Frank (01/26/2008)
Has anyone found out how to contact JST we cannot get any information.
Have purchased JST DVC 712 canot get store to help with information. Problem is cannot get zoom to focus properly, video pictures are blurry as wellas still pictures. also cannot get vedio from camcorder to computer
can any one help with the above problems
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Have purchased JST DVC 712 canot get store to help with information. Problem is cannot get zoom to focus properly, video pictures are blurry as wellas still pictures. also cannot get vedio from camcorder to computer
can any one help with the above problems
Yet another tourist mugged on Broadway (02/13/2008)
We found this web site just hours after our purchase of a JST 712. We tried to get our money back after reading the unfavourable reviews but could not even get an exchange. All the staff in the shop had shift changed by the time we returned 2 hours later so we couldn't even speak to the smug salesman who served us. We were told JCT was part of JVC and the product was fully warranted, but like others when we got the product home there was no warranty, and JVC has no connection whatsoever to JST. We even called the Police who also tried to get a refund on our behalf, but to no avail. The Police Officer told us they deal with these clowns ripping tourists off along Broadway on a daily basis and they are unable to do anything about it. Just for the record we shopped in BROADWAY CAMERAS at 1550 BROADWAY NY. If anyone needs help or support in trying to get some sort of resolution in stopping this apparent legalised extorsion, then count me in.........and I thought NY was supposed to have been cleaned up, it appears a trail of scum has been missed along Broadway.
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Jeff (02/13/2008)
If everyone that has been ripped off would file a report with the NYC Better Business Bureau (www.newyork.bbb.org) perhaps they might take some action. Anyone needing software you might try www.blazevideo.com.
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Yet another tourist mugged on Broadway (02/13/2008)
Thanks Jeff, have gone directly to www.newyork.bbb.org website and complained online. Hopefully everyone else will follow and we can get some action. Come on everyone get onto the NYC BBB site, its very easy to complete and get your complaints heard by someone who may actually get a result.
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Katy (02/20/2008)
DO NOT SHOP IN LE PETIT INC. 501 5th Ave Sales Person JOEY... I bought 2 JST Cameras for $600 which I have now realised is FAR too much. It is a VERY basic camera which they persuaded me was better than the other models I was looking at. I have written a complaint to BBB as they are now refusing to give me a refund.
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R.C. (02/25/2008)
My friend recently bought a 712 camera from a store on broadway, not sure which store, but he paid around $850. I looked at the camera, it is a piece of plastic junk. It has no warranty card, no website for support,no place of manufacture, no contact address, very little instructions for operation and really, no special features at all! The most expensive part of the camera was the box and the 1 gb sd card. I feel sorry for the guy, he feels really ripped off (even though most of this was his fault for not checking it out thoroughly). Has anyone had any success in returning the camera with receipt for a refund or is he stuck with the (white elephant) camera??
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Frank (02/26/2008)
Frank,
Can anyone help as to what we do re: jst712 camcorder that is not operating
I guess they saw us coming. We get no help from store in la where we purchased
So next step wrote to Fla. BBB waiting for ans. in the mean time can any one help
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Can anyone help as to what we do re: jst712 camcorder that is not operating
I guess they saw us coming. We get no help from store in la where we purchased
So next step wrote to Fla. BBB waiting for ans. in the mean time can any one help
rippedoff (02/26/2008)
hya frank,
unfortunately you have been ripped off, just like the rest of us, if you are in the place that you bought the camera go back in and create a noise and copy these notes and take them with you I was fortunate and nagged the CC company and the refunded half of my payment = £300. try thr financvialombudsman if you are uk based tho,
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unfortunately you have been ripped off, just like the rest of us, if you are in the place that you bought the camera go back in and create a noise and copy these notes and take them with you I was fortunate and nagged the CC company and the refunded half of my payment = £300. try thr financvialombudsman if you are uk based tho,
Tenhis (03/01/2008)
Hello,
I went to this store with my family to buy post cards. A clerk called Gino pick me up and started to pursue me buying a radar detector. I said no but he insisted looking at the device. He lied all the details (undetectable, battery operated etc) and began to show the price instead and reducing it. From 799 he went to 599 and quite quickly to 499. I still said no and he went away. The other clerk whispered to me that this was a very good price. Gino came back and said, ok, as you are the first customer of today, I'll give it for 399 and the rest of the goods (a very over priced 137 Lumix camera battery, a t-shirt and the 20 postcards) for free.
As being experienced traveler (+40 countries) and never cheated before in even very odd countries (like remote Russia, Kazakstan, MEXICO, Brazil etc.) and circumstances I really regret my tiredness (we just flew in the night before) and jetlag that I did not recognize the con.
After returning home I checked the price level in the internet and found out this KAT DLS315 would normally cost around 50!!! And as a climax I used the "detector" the first day at home and got caught by the police: fine for using the device 1600€! That is 2370...
I'm so pissed of to be frank. And it does not comfort me that I found numerous writings in the internet of similar happenings. (1st attempt from Google: newyork.citysearch.com/revi... )
Please shut down this shop immediately and start paying people their losses, if only you can. And arrest the personnel. I can confess.
All the prices at the shops' goods are twice to ten times more than appropriate and the clerks are lying. This is a shame for NYC. Such a shop at such a location!
Br, Andy
Ps. I wrote this to New York Post, NY DCA and others: nyc.gov/html/dca/html/home/...
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I went to this store with my family to buy post cards. A clerk called Gino pick me up and started to pursue me buying a radar detector. I said no but he insisted looking at the device. He lied all the details (undetectable, battery operated etc) and began to show the price instead and reducing it. From 799 he went to 599 and quite quickly to 499. I still said no and he went away. The other clerk whispered to me that this was a very good price. Gino came back and said, ok, as you are the first customer of today, I'll give it for 399 and the rest of the goods (a very over priced 137 Lumix camera battery, a t-shirt and the 20 postcards) for free.
As being experienced traveler (+40 countries) and never cheated before in even very odd countries (like remote Russia, Kazakstan, MEXICO, Brazil etc.) and circumstances I really regret my tiredness (we just flew in the night before) and jetlag that I did not recognize the con.
After returning home I checked the price level in the internet and found out this KAT DLS315 would normally cost around 50!!! And as a climax I used the "detector" the first day at home and got caught by the police: fine for using the device 1600€! That is 2370...
I'm so pissed of to be frank. And it does not comfort me that I found numerous writings in the internet of similar happenings. (1st attempt from Google: newyork.citysearch.com/revi... )
Please shut down this shop immediately and start paying people their losses, if only you can. And arrest the personnel. I can confess.
All the prices at the shops' goods are twice to ten times more than appropriate and the clerks are lying. This is a shame for NYC. Such a shop at such a location!
Br, Andy
Ps. I wrote this to New York Post, NY DCA and others: nyc.gov/html/dca/html/home/...
jimmy (03/09/2008)
fortunately for me , i got JST over the weekend and paid by cheque to the dealer and the dealer is yet to get the pay from my bank. you know what i am going to do first thing tomorrow, i am going to either call up the cheque or freeze my account.
Debbie and others should accept my sympathy bcos the cost of the camera is too much for someone to lose
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Debbie and others should accept my sympathy bcos the cost of the camera is too much for someone to lose
RICHARD PORTSMOUTH UK (05/23/2008)
Yep me too. brought a ******* jst dvc 712 camcorder last nov 2007, paid over £600 for the camcorder and a cobra radar detector, 12 megapixels. My mobile got better recorder and image play back (3 mps), and i brought that to be a phone. it was New York, Broadway! This sort of wide spread scam could not possibly exist. Used a Debit card by mistake as in a hurry, (sound familiar,) No joy with bank for a claim, using the unfit for purpose sale of goods act, as design for consumer protection. it does not cover debit cards, always use a credit card abroad and you should be protected on sales over £50-100, check with your credit card company.
If you take the memory card out your should be able to put into any computer sd card slot to down load and edit using existing free software . Re-charging can be done via a computer USB port .
if any one wants to cut and paste this for the NYBBB your more than welcome.
Good luck
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If you take the memory card out your should be able to put into any computer sd card slot to down load and edit using existing free software . Re-charging can be done via a computer USB port .
if any one wants to cut and paste this for the NYBBB your more than welcome.
Good luck
Yet another tourist mugged on Broadway (05/24/2008)
Forget NYBBB, went down that route and they have as much power as if you'd sent your own mum back to the store on your behalf to get a refund. Complete waste of time, but they were very polite and nice people if that's any consolation................... NYC = Nab Your Cash!
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another one bites the dust (06/08/2008)
hi - same here but seems the poison has leeched into san francisco - same problems with JST camera and we also lost over 800 pics - hubby finally realised that it was a dud - TOO LATE NOW - back in oz - so buyer beware in wharf area
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Ltavarez (06/23/2008)
Hey everyone, it's sad to know that that this is happening, we go on vacation to visit one of the greatest city's in the world and it turns out we get more than we bargain for. I too bought a JST camera at the NY Broadway camera store. Fortunately I bought the camera realizing that it was a cheap camera and I needed to take pictures from my NY vacation. The camera I took on vacation fell at the M&M store and broke, so I decided to purchase this cheap camera. My issue is that I can't download my pictures to my PC because I lost the cable that lets me download from my camera to my PC. Apparently I cant find the site on the web in order to purchase the cable, so I'm stuck with a cheap camera and now I can download my pictures because I can't find the cable. Good luck to everyone.
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rippedoff (06/23/2008)
LTavares hello,
let me know how i can contact you, you can have mine its no use to me at present the camera is shot
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let me know how i can contact you, you can have mine its no use to me at present the camera is shot
arie c. (10/04/2008)
I've joined the club. Bought my JST today. I'm charging the battery like hell, but it doesn't work. To bad my flight is tomorrow early in the morning. So I can't get back. Luckily I was hesitant with this aggressive salesman at Times Square. This rip-off costed me only $110 (including the 2gb card). They're a bunch of jerks. I am going to throw this junk away. It is a waste of the space in my suitcase. And I like tho forget this sooner than later.
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arie c. (10/04/2008)
By the way, they preferred cash, now I know why. There is no way that I can get my money back
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marg (11/10/2008)
Me too - purchased JST DVC-512 from Lafnac Digital Computers 42nd Street - completely taken in - on short city break having good time did not choose carefully as normal - no instructions and cannot download onto laptop, I am so cross. Thought I would find instructions on web, found thyis site instead.
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sean (01/21/2009)
Alright, so everyone is in agreement about the dodgy sales of this product.
Where do we get information on JST?
Is there a .pdf on the use of camera, where can you get extra batteries, technical questions or troubleshooting, anyone????
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Where do we get information on JST?
Is there a .pdf on the use of camera, where can you get extra batteries, technical questions or troubleshooting, anyone????
Rainflower (03/14/2009)
I am living in in the caribbean and i got one of this JST DSC 812 camera as a gift from my friend in NY. This camera is like TRASH. This is the worst camera i have ever behold in my life. It is only fit for the dumpster. Doesn't worth a dime.
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not happy (08/31/2009)
Their still at it ripping off. They will ripoff the wrong guy and he will drive a boat through their store.
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hutch (10/07/2009)
I and my friend bought a JST DVC-973 digital camera from Bray something or other at 1550 Broadway, NY, NY in April this year for Canadian dollar 432.42, I should have know when the guy was telling me it was regualar 2000.00 US$ that it was a piece of junk. It will take decent pictures when ever you can get it to work as I have to constantly take the battery out of it and in the booklet there is no web site or Mfg name or any toll free number, I will be going back to New York very soon and I plan to pay them a visit and take my lawyer with me. This sort of rip off is bad for tourism and the Mayor of New York should be informed as soon as I can get a message to him. Is anyone else out there having an issue with anything from that same shop. Bernie from Canada.
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How thin is it? (cookieman — 12/17/2006)
How thick is the camera in inches?
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tharrison (12/17/2006)
Dimensions
Width 4.1 in.
Depth 1.2 in.
Height 2.4 in.
Weight 0.38 lb.
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Width 4.1 in.
Depth 1.2 in.
Height 2.4 in.
Weight 0.38 lb.
My wish is for a 3-inch LCD and 5x zoom in a compact digital camera (jvodavich — 12/14/2006)
The Sony H5 has a 3-inch LCD and great zoom, but the camera is way too large and bulky for me. Is there such a thing as a compact digital camera with both a 3-inch LCD and, say, a 5x zoom?
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Brenda Paro (12/14/2006)
The Fuji Finepix F650 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ) fits that description exactly. It's an ultracompact. I don't know much about it myself, but if the reviews on this site are any indication people are really happy with it.
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Andrew Skinner (12/14/2006)
Jay,
Brenda is right about the Fuji F650 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ). Another close camera is the Kodak V610 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ). It packs a big zoom punch with 10x optical ability, and the screen is just under your spec at 2.8 inches. It also receives 4 out of 5 stars from 59 reviews on this site alone. It costs a bit more, but also doubles the zoom. Good luck and happy shooting.
Andrew
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Brenda is right about the Fuji F650 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ). Another close camera is the Kodak V610 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ). It packs a big zoom punch with 10x optical ability, and the screen is just under your spec at 2.8 inches. It also receives 4 out of 5 stars from 59 reviews on this site alone. It costs a bit more, but also doubles the zoom. Good luck and happy shooting.
Andrew
How good a quality are the auto settings on the F650 compared to the F20? (Ali2006 — 12/12/2006)
I like the look of the F20 for picture quality but the camera is for my mother who will probably leave it on auto a lot of the time. The F650 has a large screen and better zoom (5X) but is the quality going to be good enough on the F650 auto settings to warrent me getting it over the F20???
I have been told the F20 auto settings are good.
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I have been told the F20 auto settings are good.
Andrew Skinner (12/13/2006)
Ali,
I've found that the auto settings between cameras in the same company are very similar. You should have no problem going up to the Fuji F650 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ).
Andrew
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I've found that the auto settings between cameras in the same company are very similar. You should have no problem going up to the Fuji F650 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ).
Andrew
Looking for Best Compact Camera (eamitk — 11/20/2006)
Hi All, I need a compact camera with good battery life, optical zoom should be 4X or above and I should be weather proof.
Can anyone guide me to the right model?
Thanks in advance.
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Can anyone guide me to the right model?
Thanks in advance.
Brenda Paro (11/21/2006)
I typically lean towards a Panasonic for compact, and the Lumix LX2 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ) might be a good choice. For a slightly longer zoom there is also the Fuji Finepix F650 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ). Both have really good ratings, I can vouch for the Panasonic having good image quality, haven't seen samples from the Fuji but judging from the reviews people are satisfied with it. As far as weatherproof, that's kind of tricky- I don't know of any digital cameras that can withstand weather (rain etc.) without possible damage.
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is this a good camera for both food photography and outdoor scenery? (cholmaneee — 11/17/2006)
I want to take it on my camping trips, but I also want to use it indoors to take photos of food to post on my food blog.
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K75rider (11/17/2006)
Cyndi,
A $150 - $160 6mp 5x camera is on the low end.
Web-picture are very small so it may work well for this. Outside the LCD may not be the best and no viewfinder is a limitation.
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A $150 - $160 6mp 5x camera is on the low end.
Web-picture are very small so it may work well for this. Outside the LCD may not be the best and no viewfinder is a limitation.
Ben Keough (12/20/2006)
Hi, I noticed that you haven't marked any replies as the "best answer." Are you still looking for an answer? If so, I recommend you re-submit it on digitalcamera-hq.com so it will have a better chance of being noticed. These days it looks like most questions are being answered within a few days. Good luck!
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Cyndi (12/20/2006)
Thanks for the input on this camera. I ended up getting a Canon SD450 and am quite pleased. It cost twice as much as the Fuji, but I'm getting what I paid for.
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Ben Keough (12/20/2006)
Cyndi, glad you found a good match for your needs. :)
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what is best digital camera and least expensive for close-up photos (rwilliams1950 — 11/17/2006)
My son is taking a criminal justice college course. He was sent a "student crime scene investigation kit" as part of his curriculum. He is to take dust for fingerprints and take a photo of them. The picture has to be clear and show no distortion or
fuzziness to the print photo. They said he has to either use a 35mm or digital camera with "megapixel". Both of us do not know anything about cameras as far as
what to use. We can't invest a large amount of money either. Can you please provide suggestions as to what would work,
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fuzziness to the print photo. They said he has to either use a 35mm or digital camera with "megapixel". Both of us do not know anything about cameras as far as
what to use. We can't invest a large amount of money either. Can you please provide suggestions as to what would work,
Brenda Paro (11/17/2006)
Hmm. Does it say how many megapixels?? Because all digital cameras have megapixels, it's just a question of how many- the more there are, the better image quality typically is.
Pretty much any mainstream camera on the market today should work for this. I would go for something with about a 4x or larger optical zoom and a Macro mode (aka close-up mode)- and those are pretty standard features for digicams today. Here are a few to check out:
Canon Powershot A640 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ) would work well- I have always liked Canon's macro modes, they seem to do well with handling distortion and vignetting and the other problems that can occur with close-up shots.
Fuji Finepix F650 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... )- a little cheaper, but still a great camera- plus this one has a Super Macro mode that lets you get even closer.
Either of these or anything similar to them should work just fine. Let me know if you need further assistance/ advice!
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Pretty much any mainstream camera on the market today should work for this. I would go for something with about a 4x or larger optical zoom and a Macro mode (aka close-up mode)- and those are pretty standard features for digicams today. Here are a few to check out:
Canon Powershot A640 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ) would work well- I have always liked Canon's macro modes, they seem to do well with handling distortion and vignetting and the other problems that can occur with close-up shots.
Fuji Finepix F650 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... )- a little cheaper, but still a great camera- plus this one has a Super Macro mode that lets you get even closer.
Either of these or anything similar to them should work just fine. Let me know if you need further assistance/ advice!
Can you record stereo sound on an F650? (Tony Sharp — 11/05/2006)
Clue, the quickest answer comes in one word!
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Andrew Skinner (11/05/2006)
No
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Andrew Skinner (11/05/2006)
So, I know you said one word, but it records in Mono WAV format.
Andrew
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Andrew
Need good small digital for son in Iraq don't know enough about them (Daris — 11/02/2006)
Camera needs to be at least 6 megapixiel, run on batteries, needs to be very small to fit in uniform pocket good resolution and around $200.00 any ideas
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Brenda Paro (11/02/2006)
The Fuji Finepix F650 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ) might work. It runs on a lithium ion battery.
<a href="digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... a good list of ultracompact 6 megapixel cameras to give you a better idea of what's out there.
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<a href="digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... a good list of ultracompact 6 megapixel cameras to give you a better idea of what's out there.
Ben Keough (12/13/2006)
Hi, I noticed that you haven’t marked any replies as the "best answer." Are you still looking for an answer? If so, I recommend you re-submit it on digitalcamera-hq.com so it will have a better chance of being noticed. These days it looks like most questions are being answered within a few days. Good luck!
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Sean (03/03/2007)
I am not a expert, but I am leaving for Iraq soon,and have been looking for a camera as well. Canon and Fuji are my favorites so far. If you want something with AA batteries that limits you, but here are some that would be good. Fuji Finepix A610, Nikon Coolpix L11, and Canon Powershot A540. Look for Image Stabilization. Again I am new to this but, have been researching hard.
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how many pictures (appx) will 32 mb hold? (kristen — 10/29/2006)
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Brenda Paro (10/29/2006)
The answer depends on a few things: how many megapixels your camera has, what resolution you're shooting at, etc. If you have 6 megapixels (like the Fuji F650 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... )) and you're shooting at 620x480 (the lowest resolution), it will only hold about 10 photos, if you're lucky.
I'd highly recommend a picture card of at least 512mb. They only run about thirty dollars.
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I'd highly recommend a picture card of at least 512mb. They only run about thirty dollars.
Does this camera have a separate view finder? (Paul — 10/24/2006)
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Tony Sharp (11/05/2006)
The Fujifilm FinePix F650 does NOT have a separate viewfinder of any kind, either optical or electronic. Mind you it does have a whopping 3 inch LCD display with a resolution of 230000 pixels, so image composition should not be too much of a problem although I did not try it outdoors. The camera is slim enough to slip into a pocket and has a 5x optical zoom giving (35mm equivalent) zoom range of 36-180mm or, if you utilize the 4.4 digital zoom as well, a range of 36-792mm! Of course if you do that, your image quality will be lessened but to my mind it is still one hell of an achievement for such a small (104.7 x 60.6 x 30.8 mm or 4.1 x 2.4 x 1.2 inch in old money) camera.
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pjs (11/05/2006)
I have recently had a chance to use the camera and without a separate viewfinder it is almost imposible to use on a sunny day. The only drawback that I can see.
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does the finepix f650 have image stability (mr crompton — 10/21/2006)
i
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Andrew Skinner (10/21/2006)
The Fuji F650 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ) does not seem to come with IS capability. I've looked through the user manual and other marketing literature for the camera. It does have a "camera shake" warning if the camera is not stable.
Andrew
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Andrew
hello, im purchasing my second digital camera and am torn between sony N1, FINEPIX 650 and casio z1000, what would you choose. (PAUL BYRNE — 10/19/2006)
im using it for family pictures and also my hobby taking pictures of uk buildings and sites of interest.
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Andrew Skinner (11/11/2006)
Hi, I noticed that your question hasn't been responded to yet. Are you still looking for an answer? If so, I recommend you re-submit it on DigitalCamera-HQ.com, so it will have a better chance of being noticed. These days it looks like most questions are being answered within a few days. Good luck!
Andrew
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Andrew
olympus mju 750 vs fuji f650 : if i want a 5x optical zoom compact digital camere, is justified to pay more for the olympus ? when can i appreciate the reasons for this price difference ? (JR — 10/03/2006)
I need a 5x optical zoom compact digital camera, for travel photos (Asia, South America...) and good capabilities in low natural light conditions. I don´t know if
is justified to pay more for the Olympus mju 750 vs fuji f650.
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is justified to pay more for the Olympus mju 750 vs fuji f650.
Joe (10/06/2006)
The Olympus MJU 750 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ) does have more features. Other than the higher megapixels it also has better low light settings and various shooting modes that might come in handy in your travels. Also the duel image stablization is nice to keep all those pictures blur-free.
The Fuji F650 is a nice slim camera but a 3 inch LCD always makes me uncomfortable when people say they are travelling with it. The screen on any camera is easy to break and scratch and even more so on such a thin wide screen.
I would go with the Olympus even though the price is more I feel the features will be the pay off. Also if you can wait a bit the price should go down, it is a new camera and they must stay competative.
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The Fuji F650 is a nice slim camera but a 3 inch LCD always makes me uncomfortable when people say they are travelling with it. The screen on any camera is easy to break and scratch and even more so on such a thin wide screen.
I would go with the Olympus even though the price is more I feel the features will be the pay off. Also if you can wait a bit the price should go down, it is a new camera and they must stay competative.
Fuji FinePix F650 Reviews
Fuji FinePix F650 Reviews by Digital Camera-HQ Users
- 5.0 out of 5
Broken hearted!
(Samuel Brunetto — 05/09/2009)
I loved this camara and it was sitting in my office on my table in an aircraft hangar--- and --- some bastard stole it!!
- 5.0 out of 5
Excellent camera
(Gordy — 02/10/2009)
The Fuji F650 is an excellent camera! The 3" screen is great for older people to use and review pictures. Everyone who has seen my 8x10's comment about the great clarity and quality of the pictures when they are enlarged to that size.
- 4.0 out of 5
Slow shutter lag, otherwise excellent
(Jeff — 12/21/2008)
Huge 3" display, 5x optical zoom, excellent battery life. Only difficulty is the 1sec to 2sec lag between pressing the shutter button and it taking the picture. Don't know if you can find a better one for the money....
- 4.0 out of 5
broke
(sondra — 09/17/2008)
I loved this camera and had it for 13 months but 2 days ago as I took it out of my purse while sitting to take a pic fell on the floor and broke. Took it to the shop today but he has not called me back yet so I think RIP my sweet Fuji.
- 4.0 out of 5
Nice camera for what it is, point and shoot
(snoluver — 03/02/2008)
I got this for my teenage daughter last May for her 16th birthday. It takes AWESOME pictures. She took it to Alaska last summer and got some amazing photos, good enough to enlarge and frame. The only negative thing I can say about it is the lack of a viewfinder, which is only needed outdoors on sunny days. It is amazing to me how the Fuji-line is so overlooked! What is even more amazing is that people just go out and buy a camera without researching! I will NEVER own another Kodak. And that's what I see the most of when I'm out. It's the Kodak name and recently they haven't been living up to their name at all. I am looking at the Fuji S700 for myself, which is what I'm getting ready to buy. My best advice is RESEARCH before you buy ANYTHING electronic!
- 5.0 out of 5
PROFESSIONAL PHOTOGRAPHER NEEDING A "SNAPPY"
(TINA — 11/07/2007)
I have traveled the world as an "Art Photographer", having every Canon, Nikon, Commercial equip. this beats them all !
Recently attended a " hawdy-tawdy" gathering, A "high tea", for "grand-parents" day! The "Hawdy-Tawdies" came over, asking, looking, taking notes on napkins when I started using my new "snappy", within 5 minutes I could have sold 30 +, everyone taking down the brand, looking, holding, taking photos of their children...they were as amazed as I have been ! The 2 gb card ( the original) , has taken 100 + photos, plus several 30 min. to 45 min. movie's, not downloaded yet! How 'bout that ! Most incredible "professional looking great little "snappy". My shoulders thank you ! By the way, sales guy sold me a 2 GB card by Olympus, did you know the f650 camara does "panarama photos+movies, and get this ! 3-D ! (with this camera!) You heard it right ! Now where do we get the 3-D glasses ! One important feature, at a Lake outing, an evening-night cook out with gas lanterns for light...the F650 captured as seen ! lighting, perfect!, ambiance incredible!
I purchased this little "snappy" on the run, just asked clerk for "that one with the big screen", "Price he asked ?" what is your budget...how much? doesn't matter, just so it is "that one with the big screen"... "done ! " with a 2 GB card... out of the store in 15 minutes ! Studied to purchase, nope, just had a "feeling" (used Fuji film my entire Professional photographic life...knew it had to be great !... and so it was. (no "lag time"!)
X-mas?, everyryone is, yes,you're right, getting new F650's ! Everyone in the family ! Compitition ?, doesn't matter!
Probably sold 50 at the "Hawdy-Tawdy High Tea".
( try a "night shooting" short movie with holiday lights, etc. ! )
ENJOY, TAKE "PHOTOS FROM THE HEART" ! , TINA
Feel free to respond to my feelings for my new F650 "snappy".
- 4.0 out of 5
Good camera - needs a viewfinder!
(Kathe — 11/05/2007)
Bought this camera in Italy when the camera I brought with me broke. Takes nice pictures but it does need a view finder for sunny days.
- 5.0 out of 5
the best, by far
(Sue — 06/04/2007)
I've only had my Fuju A65o for about 3 months now and have taken 100's of pics - love the clarity and I never noticed that it didn't have a viewfinder until reading the reviews today. I'm still learning all the functions, but so glad I changed from Cannon to Fuji. I hesitated learning a new, different digital but it's very user friendly for us "old folks".
- 5.0 out of 5
Great Camera, Great Value!
(Ricky — 04/19/2007)
Perfect camera. $149.00 at CostCo.com - can't beat that price. Get a 2GB XC for another $50 and you're ready to roll...
Very nice camera for the money.
- 5.0 out of 5
The best Valued camera out there
(Casey — 03/28/2007)
I love this camera with the large screen and great MP and a Zoom that will blow you out of the water. NEVER SEEN A CAMERA WITH SUCH QUALITY. The best Camera on the market.
- 5.0 out of 5
Perfect choice
(todd — 02/10/2007)
This is our first digital camera. I am sure we made the perfect choice. Simple to use, beautiful pictures. My wife has limited English and she figured out the controls in a day. I read some bad reviews about this camera from the so called pros and I just do not see a problem with this camera. Just remember to hold the shutter button half way down, give the camera a chance to focus and shoot.I am totally satisfied with this internet purchase and was money well spent
- 5.0 out of 5
Love this camera
(nadine — 12/31/2006)
I love this camera, nice LCD huge! Many features to give you just what you need. Size is good too. I got a great price, with the 1 GB memory I paid 215. including tax. LOVE IT
- 4.0 out of 5
Fujifilm f650
(David Jory — 11/22/2006)
Great viewfinder, small compact with great zoom. Partner wanted camera small large zoom and 6 megapixels , this has all we need to complement slr film camera
- 5.0 out of 5
LCD is a crowd-drawer
(Mike D from Alpena, MI — 11/09/2006)
This is a superb camera for the money and people go nuts over the size of the LCD screen. The only minor complaint I have is a view finder would come in handy sometimes, but other than that, I would highly reccomend buying this camera. I have always have a good experience with fuji camera's.
- 4.0 out of 5
overall use
(E. Kacos — 11/01/2006)
When I bought the camera, I was impressed by thelarge lcd monitor,which I really like plus the compact size and the optical power. This camera is a pocket rocket. Unfortunately it needs a
viewfinder. It's nigh impossible to take pictures out doors on a sunny day. The other thing that happened to me was most of the selection modes on the top ring wore off during my trip to Morocco. Otherwise I give it a good rating.
- 5.0 out of 5
Great camera for the money
(LS — 10/27/2006)
I always like Fuji cameras because of its optics. The images are always sharp with lots of depth. This little camera is great for the money — 5X zoom, some controls (Aperture and Shutter priority exposures), and the huge 3" screen is a show stopper. I am surprised why this camera is not as popular as it should. Maybe it is the proprietary battery (NP-40, which you can get a third party spare for about $15), the xD card (which is not as cheap as SD cards), and lack of viewfinder (I have not use a viewfinder ever since I went digital in 1999).
- 4.0 out of 5
YAY!
(anonymous — 07/18/2006)
I love it! I went to a Cat Empire Concert and took heaps of awsome pics with it!!! very nice!!!
- 4.0 out of 5
I like it
(anonymous — 07/18/2006)
nice, very nice indeed
