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Nikon Coolpix S8100:
Hands On Review
We spent a few weeks with the Nikon Coolpix S8100, an attractive compact that tries to give buyers what they've been begging for: a camera that can take decent pictures in bad lighting, without giving up the long zoom lens.
By Liam McCabe
- S8100 Big Picture
- User comments
Last updated on 01/18/2013
Camera buyers want it all: Compact shooters with long zooms and great low-light performance for under $300. Because of a few principles called supply, demand, and physics, that’s a tough one to pull off.
But that hasn’t stopped enterprising camera manufacturers from trying. Sporting a 10x optical zoom, backlit CMOS sensor, and a price tag around $250, the Nikon Coolpix S8100 almost makes it happen. The results aren’t perfect, but it’s a pretty good compromise for the price.
Body and Design
The S8100 looks like a typical compact zoom, and is almost indistinguishable from the S8000, which was released in early 2010. It’s about the length and height of a smartphone, and about an inch thick -- small enough to fit in a pants pocket, but not a tiny camera. It’s a little bit heavy, but that heft makes it feel well-built. The 30-300mm (10x zoom) lens is a little bit narrow at the wide angle, but the telephoto setting is handy for nature shots. For a camera meant to shoot well in low-light, the max aperture of f3.5 is concerning, but that’s an expected trade-off for such a versatile lens.
The layout leans toward the sleek and minimalist end of the spectrum. The model I tested was entirely matte black, though it’s also available in gold and red. A vibrant, hi-resolution 3-inch LCD dominates the rear panel, rounded out by a few buttons (including a dedicated video record button) and a selection wheel, rather than a four-way pad. Up top, the power button, mode dial, and shutter release are placed comfortably, with the zoom tilter in a recessed nook -- no complaints there. On the right, there’s mini-HDMI output. On the bottom, a somewhat flimsy battery door, and a port for the A/V and USB connectors. The latter is not well placed, in my opinion, because it prevents the camera from standing upright while it’s charging or hooked up to a computer.
The S8100 suffers from one big design flaw: the irritating automatic pop-up flashes where my left fingers always rest -- judging by user comments, this design is unpopular with just about everyone on any camera. Thankfully, the S8100 is designed to shoot well in dim lighting without a flash, so you shouldn’t have to use it too often.
It’s also worth noting that the S8100 doesn’t ship with a separate charger. It’s in-camera charging only -- some folks like this set-up, since it keeps all the parts in one place, but others find it inconvenient. If you’re planning to buy a second battery, you’ll probably want to buy the optional external charger as well.
Performance and User Experience
The S8100 almost has the chops to be a semi-advanced compact, but the control scheme is made for casual users. The interface is stripped down and relies heavily on automatic settings. There are no Shutter and Aperture Priority modes, which are usually a staple of compact zoom cameras and a must-have for more serious, hands-on users. Even casual users will notice the lack of a Program (‘P’) mode on the dial, though the Auto mode basically functions like Program mode, and the Auto Scene mode is akin to a standard hands-off Auto mode.
In the place of the usual suspects, Nikon loaded up the mode dial with night-oriented modes, like Backlighting, Night Portrait, and Night Landscape. These modes basically just slow down the shutter speed and are available on most other cameras, but they don’t usually get their own notches on the mode dial. There are also separate notches for Subject Tracking (which only sort of works) and Continuous mode, which (no surprise) queues burst mode. It fires at 10 frames per second, but can only shoot five frames in a row. That lends itself to pretty limited usage, but it should be able to capture one decent still from an action scene.
The menu system is also a bit quirky. Some attributes that you’d normally find buried deep in a menu system (vividness and hue, for example) are adjustable in the top-level exposure compensation menu. Some attributes are mysteriously uncontrollable at times -- if you adjust the hue at all, for example, white balance is stuck on auto. Basically, read the manual. You should always read the manual with any gadget, but I get the impression from my experience editing this website that about half of you actually do -- that’s even a generous estimate. If you buy the S8100, read the manual.
So the control system is a bit of a paradox. Nikon wants to play up to the S8100’s strengths and simplify the control scheme for casual users. It works on a broad scale, but fine tuning is harder than it needs to be. Still, just because it’s different doesn’t mean it’s bad, and it succeeds in taking a lot of the pain out of low-light and nighttime shooting.
And for those who are interested, the S8100 has a slew of “that’s nice” features -- you might not ever use them, but they don’t hurt. It has features like in-camera touch-ups; Best Shot Selector, which takes three consecutive shots and picks the best one; high-speed capture at 1 megapixel; and the somewhat ballyhooed high-dynamic range (HDR) photography, which takes three consecutive pictures at three slightly different exposures, and creates a vibrant, richer-than-real-life image. It ends up looking a bit cartoonish, but it’s definitely striking.
Image and Video Quality
Since the low-light shooting is the headline feature on the S8100, lets get right to it. Here’s the thing. The low-light image quality isn’t really crisper than any other compact zoom, but it’s much easier to get a good exposure. In other words, you’ll actually be able to post those concert shots and birthday party pictures online without making everyone look like a blown-out ghost or blurry mess.
On closer inspection, it’s more complicated than simply saying “low-light quality is good.” It’s common to find details smeared like a watercolor painting. There isn’t much spotty noise until ISO 800, which is pretty standard. But even down at ISO 200, textures and edges lose sharpness. In this portrait (left, Chris), the subject looks good, the lighting is eye-pleasing, but the table in front of him and the wall behind him look like they were spread with a brush. There’s also a tendency to over-expose in brighter indoor conditions -- I suppose that’s part of the compromise that allows it to capture decent low-light shots, but it does require a little extra attention to detail, and perhaps a notch or two down on the exposure compensation scale.
In good, daylight shooting conditions, the S8100 is average. For simple shots, like landscapes or outdoor portraits, it’s nothing special, but totally fine. But even slightly more complicated settings throw it for a loop. Image clarity is fine and distortion is minimal, but the out-of-camera color seems cold. It has a particularly difficult time dealing with high-contrast areas, especially with the zoom extended. Take a look at the wide-angle/telephoto comparison below (click for full-res shots). At the wide-angle, the sky is blue, and the image is decently sharp and well-exposed. At the telephoto setting, the sky on either side of the clock is suddenly grey, and the purple fringing is front-and-center obvious. Most cameras will run into this problem, but it looks especially pronounced here.
30mm wide-angle (left) vs 300mm telephoto (right).
None of these flaws are necessarily deal-breakers. At medium sizes, it’s tougher to spot these issues, so if you stick to sharing photos online and occasionally printing some 5x7-inchers, you’re fine. And again, it’s probably the best low-light and indoor shooter with a decent zoom at its price. But it’s not a catch-all solution for night-time shooting. Dark shots hit more often than they miss, but you’ll have to look elsewhere, in a higher price bracket, if you want to make large prints of shots in concert halls, bars, or other late-night escapades.
The 1080p HD video quality is another hallmark feature on this camera, and it’s quite good. Nighttime video was clear and the S8100 still managed to focus pretty quickly. The motor noise from the extending zoom is audible (yet inevitable), but otherwise the stereo sound quality is ear-pleasing.
Conclusion
The Nikon S8100 is a great compromise. Long-zoomers don’t do too well indoors, and low-light shooters have limited usage outdoors. The S8100 does better than most long-zoomers indoors, and thanks to its long lens, it’s more versatile for outdoor use than any low-light shooters. It loses the best qualities of each, but there are a lot of users out there who have been looking for a camera like this. The design and build quality are very good, and the interface is decent, despite its unorthodox nature and lack of manual control. On a personal note, it’s one of the more intriguing compact cameras I’ve reviewed lately.
It earns it a low A- precisely because it’s what many shooters have been looking for -- I just hope that they realize they’re sacrificing the very good image quality they’d get from the Panasonic ZS5 or Sony HX5V in outdoor conditions and very good indoor quality they’d get from the Canon S95 or even SD4000, in exchange for decent image quality in all conditions. The wild-card in this situation is the Canon SD4500, which is basically a direct competitor to the S8100: a 10x zoomer with a CMOS sensor. We hope to be able to update this review in the near future with thoughts on the SD4500, but the user feedback and outside reviews we’ve read lead us to believe that it’s a B+ camera.
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Nikon Coolpix S8100 Comments & Questions (write your own!)
I've been shooting my video with a non-HD Flip and have been happy with it, but really want to upgrade to HD and want to carry just one device that can do everything, and is compact in size (no need to be sub-compact).
I also want my pictures geotagged but just bought an eye-fi cards so I don't want to pay extra to get geotagging unless there are other reasons to buy that model.
I always shoot using auto or one of the scenes. I never adjust any of the manual controls, so I just need a camera that will take really good pics without adjustment. But when I say really good, I mean really good from an amateur perspective.
Most important is - good daytime inside & outside pictures, decent zoom for travel and outdoor photos, good video with the ability to zoom quietly while you use the video and a decent internal mic.My pictures are used strictly for web usage and printing on flyers (nothing bigger than 4x6). I'd like to spend $350 or less if I can get everything I need. I'd like good low-light pictures, but not at the sacrifice of the points listed above. I'm also willing to wait a bit if there is something on the horizon that might be better.
What do you think is the best for my needs?
Sony HX7V or Sony H70 or Nikon S8100
Waiting for your fast reply.
Image quality is first priority.
If it is a good value of money?
If there is only zoom difference in S8100 & S9100?
How you compare Canon SX220 with S8100? Which one is great in picture quality?
Why it is said S8100 is not good camera for outdoor shoots?
[I have full mind for S8100, i am a casual user, just need crisp & great pics only]
Great in which sense? picture? functions?
Is anyone else having issues with the lens? Also, I noticed something odd last night with my display. When I go to review photos on the camera, they're slightly pixilated and straight lines look crooked/blurry, but then the display corrects the image after a split second. I haven't look at the images on my computer yet, but I'm going to shortly and will update. Anyone else seeing this on their displays?
There are some DIY tips on how to clear the message, but in the end, you may be better served to send it in for repair under warranty.
a week ago i asked a question that i need a camera in range of $200, it must have excellent picture quality, i need it for casual use, not specifically indoor or outdoor, but a mix. no need of long zoom, but picture quality should be awesome, but no one replied my question, i was expecting that people here are really encouraging and would reply, but don't know why no reply.
(Personally i like Nikon S8000 & S8100, as i saw them at a store. very cool design cameras.)
Kindly reply.
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Lounge and VIP atmosphere, night scene on a yacht to demonstrate CMOS 'high sensibility.
A well-behaved commercial, at last youtube.com/watch?v=zshfnEu...
Press menu button then the Wrench Icon (Setup menu) Date imprint
Is one of these cameras NOTICIABLE better for outdoor shots than the other?
There is no truly great "all-around" compact zoom camera. You have to give something up somewhere. If nature shots are your primary focus, the ZS5 or ZS7 are better bets. If you're more of an indoor/nightime shooter, the S8100 is a better bet. If you want it all, you need a dSLR.
Also, most concerts allow cameras, especially in small or mid-sized venues. High-profile acts often ban cameras, but most acts don't care.
Since it's designed to shoot well in lower light situations, I just tended to not use the flash, or if I did, I tried to diffuse it a bit (hold something up -- a finger, even -- an inch or so in front of the flash) to keep it from white-washing everything.
I have a full review going up later today, if you want to check back tonight and see more comments!
Pros: Great glass, minimal barrel distortion in wide angle, sharp photos, small form factor, Nikon quality, 10x optical reach.
Cons: No "high-speed-shutter" preset, flimsy power and battery/memory covers, mandatory re/charge of the battery in the camera (without purchase of an optional external charger).
Because my need is to use the S8100 as a travel camera, (where sometimes I'm taking photos from a moving ship/boat/plane/vehicle), I need some way to freeze the motion... better than the built-in VR alone. Yes, I can push the ISO way up (with some corresponding noise), or use "Motion Detection" (but that is disabled for any ISO other than "Auto"), or go into one of the continuous/burst/sports scene/modes (with reduced file sizes of 1M or 5M depending on which alternative chosen). Although any of these workarounds can make up for a lack of a high-speed-shutter preset, any of them require more than a one-button selection (and then a back-out to "normal" afterwards). Nikon tech support and Nikon online forums haven't come up with a workaround either. The best I've been told is Nikon tech support will forward my concern to the appropriate department for consideration in a future camera.
It doesn't help any the "Auto" ISO seems to favor a 1/50 or 1/30 shutter with a smaller ap rather than increasing DoF with a larger ap and a faster shutter. I'm guessing that's why I've read some people are complaining about blurry photos.
I want to love this camera. I really do. IMHO, I think it's just about the best balance of the P&S cameras out there at the moment, but it's not going to work for me as my pocket travel camera. I'm pretty disappointed. Of course, as always, your mileage may vary.
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Also want to point out that getting very good low-light performance with a long zoom lens is tough to do -- it's a matter of physics. So you can't expect to have amazing low-light performance from a camera like this. One model can certainly be better than another, but the only way to start to get stronger low-light shooting is with an advanced compact camera like the Canon S95, Canon G12, Nikon P7000, Panasonic LX5...more expensive and less zoom, but they have larger sensors, which is the most crucial aspect in low-light shooting. All of these travel zoom cameras have the same small sensor size, so there won't be a tremendous difference from model to model.
So I'd say that the S8100 is a good option, so is the Sony HX5V, and sorry to confuse you even further, but we like the Panasonic ZS5 and ZS7 a lot too.
Okay, you sound like you understand what I'm asking about! Awesome! Low-Light, Video, Sound Quality, and Good Pictures are my most important features. I have looked and yes the ones I'm looking at all have the same CMOS sensor. I have a 4x camera now, it's painful. Of the ones you listed if you were to have my list...which one would you say to buy?
Thanks for the info.
After that fiasco, I decided to take a loss and replace the camera. I got the S8100 and I'm MUCH happier with it. Noise reduction results are much more natural looking and less aggressively applied because of the superior low light performance. I used it for indoor pictures under similar conditions as described above and had far better results than with the ZS7. The only issue I found was that some close-up flash pictures were pretty overexposed. I might try the suggestion elsewhere of diffusing the flash with my finger and see if that helps.
Overall, I'm very pleased so far.
- We found that the small CMOS sensor did have a positive effect with the Canon SD4000, but that likely had as much to do with the huge (f2.0) aperture. Nikon (and Canon, with the SD4500) had to sacrifice that aperture to get the long zoom.
- It seems like Canon and Nikon tried to make these cameras everything to everyone -- small, long zoom, and good low-light performance -- but had to cut some corners to get there for a reasonable price. In general, more people seem happy with the S8100 than the SD4500 so far, and the big price difference probably has something to do with that.
- As for the other compact zooms you've been looking at, we liked the ZS5/ZS7 the most on this site. Not really the top in any one performance category, but a very good balance. If you think the ZS7 is too costly (though last I checked it's cheaper than the Canon SX210 and Sony HX5V, may have changed), check out the ZS5. Same optics as the ZS7, just no ACVHD Lite video, smaller screen, no GPS.
As for charging, according to Nikon's website, it does not come supplied with an external charger [edit 10/28 - a commenter below said that it does come with a separate wall charger], so you'll have to plug the camera into the wall unless you buy the optional charger.
The flash has the same problem as its predecessor -- right where your finger is.
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