Nikon D80 (Body Only)
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The Nikon D80 is an affordable 'enthusiast' level dSLR, offering the same stunning quality that the beloved D70 had, with some important and impressive improvements. The D80 upgrades virtually every aspect of the previous D70 models, with the exception of a shutter speed that is half as fast as its predecessor. Other than that, with a 10 megapixel sensor and the same high-capacity battery seen on the D200, this dSLR is a welcome addition to Nikon's already superb line.
Note: This is a BODY ONLY model. For a D80 with an included lens, visit here.
Specifications
- 10.2 megapixel CCD
- Nikon F Lens Mount
- JPEG, NEF (RAW) file formats
- Auto and manual focus and exposure
- ISO 100-3200
- 2.5-inch LCD, optical viewfinder
- Secure Digital media storage
- 80 millisecond shutter lag
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Nikon D80 (Body Only) Reviews
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Nikon D80 (Body Only) Reviews by Digital Camera-HQ Users
- 5.0 out of 5
This is a GREAT camera with all the f- stops, shutter speeds, RAW imaging for the more serious photographer or those wanting to grow as photographer. The "in camera" editing is a quick way to have the same image changed several times without losing the original before loading them on the computer.
I have used my D80 every week in the past year. I have 3 lens that serve most of my interests. The one most used is a "walk around" tamron 18-270 VC. The preset controls of portrait, sports, ect. haven't let me down. I personally like to set the fps myself to help control depth of field, or the shutter speed to control lighting.
This camera is a great find at a reasonable price. If you are ready for a DSLR this one is it. The D40 doesn't offer enough and the pro- cameras are so expensive with not much more to offer. Buy the D80 with confidense that this is the step before pro camera and enjoy!!
- 5.0 out of 5
After lots of research a couple of years ago, I settled on the D80 body and added the 18-200 VR lens. This is a combination that I would recommend to my best friends. I admit that I have not experienced later generation cameras, but am not envious. Nikon still builds them which is a good testimonial. It is very intuitive and the in-camera features make it usable for users far beyond "entry Level", or pro-sumer equipment. The D90 has the movie feature, which would be convenient, but I shoot stills. 3 fps is slow for sure. It's hard to fault otherwise. Construction is very good. I see no need to upgrade in the forsee-able future, and my money will go to lenses and accessories.
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Easy to use, great pictures, good metering, could use faster focusing and frames per second. Overall a great camera for intermediate photographers
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I use one of these at work and I like it for the light work.
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Purchased the D80 year ago after looking to make the jump to DSLR. Looked at D40 but decided to spend a little more and get the D80.
Year later still loving it.
- 5.0 out of 5
An excellent digital SLR which is affordable, durable, easy to use and having a very high stamina battery.
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I bought the D80 last year after a trip to Alaska. I had two frinds on the trip who both owned this camera, and I had a chance to play with one of them in Denali National Park. I was sold! The camera has capabilities that will allow the owner to shoot pretty much anything he or she wishes. My only disappointment was the inability to do extremely closeup work. I had a Fuji S9000 before, and I could shoot the mint mark on a penny with it, just a few inches away. I can't do that with this one unless I use some screw on lense adapters. This was certainly not a point worth passing on what is otherwise a very fine camera. I am very pleased with my purchase, and I am sure that it will do pretty much anything that I wish. So far, it has exceeded my expectations, and I am still learning how many of the options and controls work.
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very nice I love this camera:)
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I've owned this camera now for 9 months and have shot countless pictures all of which have been outstanding. I know many pro-photographers mostly canon lovers and they all agree that this is the first Nikon to at a semi-pro level to really impress them. To those choosing the d70 over this you need to check what you are doing wrong because there is just no comparison.
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I have owned many digital cameras (usually 2 or 3 at a time) used for both work (real estate) and pleasure. This is by far the best one I have ever owned, so user-friendly, and wonderful picture quality. Not a single complaint on it so far. Do suggest upgrading from the lens they bundle it with when you buy it, though.
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Worth every penny spent on it. Really love the camera.
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Bought the Nikon D80 the day before I left for Venice. While on the flight over I snaped a few distance shots out of the window of the jet, and saw a black dot reoccurring on the l.c.d. screen after every picture in the same spot. I was pretty distraught trying to remove the speck on the ccd., this was a brand new camera, and purchased from Glazers Camera Supply, which is a very reputable supply shop. about half way through the trip the speck moved off the ccd, and I did end up getting some nice shots. Besides the fact that the camera does not have anti dust removal, the camera is very nice, the auto focus is fast, the built in flash doesn't over expose, and the shutter lag is very fast, I also like the fact that the l.c.d. picture preview screen has a plastic protective cover. When Nikon builds anti dust protection into their cameras, they'll be dialed.
- 5.0 out of 5
If you have picked up PopTograpy you know they have a very in depth review of the D80 and ears some very high marks. I found it easier to hold (smaller than the D70, lighter). The batteries are not interchangeable with the 70 series and much more information is available about battery condition. The D80 has quite a built in editor, so you can crop, zoom in and inspect parts of the shot and one thing is a much bigger LCD. I think a little too much was left out on the internal software processing for the defined items like 'portrait', nigh portrait, macro, and others. There appears to be only a sentence or two on each. There has also been some saying that it only goes up to ISO 1600, actually it will go to 3200 like the rest and has pretty good noise processing for that speed (which is selectable). It also has 11 focus areas that flash when it is selected, so you know what area you've focused. What was very good is finding that it contains allot of the inner workings of the D200, such as the matrix and focus processor (there are others). I have a 4 Gig memory chip that gives me 332 images to each (I carry two) that's in RAW mode and Adobe already has a beta software for the raw mode. I would also suggest the SB-800 because of the flexibility of the different flash setup that is not available in the SB-300, I love it and would not want to switch back. Any questions, please ask.
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I already owned a D70, which I love, and a D50. After using the D80 I sold the D50. I just couldn't get rid of my D70. The different cards are no problem since I always carry a portable 20gb storage unit. The D80 is very fast and, the output is great. Very sharp prints and great colors. I also like the additional capabilities which allow me to really tweak my shots. All in all, a very solid camera.
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I own a d50 and a d70s and decided I needed more megapixels hence I bought a d80 and I am soory I did. Its performance as a picture taker is no better than either of my older cameras. Its 18-135 kit lens is not up to Nikkor standard quality but the worst feature is its dim LED viewfinder which is SO dim that it cannot be read in bright daylight. This is not a problem with my eyes as the d50 and d70s are just fine in the same daylight situations nor it is it a problem the battery as it makes no difference in how recently it is recharged. There is a real problem with my camera. Anyone else out there using this camera in bright daylight ?
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I own the Nikon D100, D70 & the new D80 - the D80 will out-gun any of the previous digital's presently in my collection. Focusing & Metering are a breeze with the new autofocusing cam system. Nikon has put the same in there D200 body. Remarkable that you can trim photo's, change to shoot black & white and monochrome in-place of color photo's - these features not found in the D100 or D70 bodies. At 10.2 mp's a 24" x 36" print has no distortion even at the edges where most photo distortion starts. Great camera, Nikon put the time & effort into this remarkable body, also additional battery pack will be available. Memory used is in the form of SD cards, camera can handle up to a 4GB card that's great. This is my wedding digital camera until the Nikon DX2s becomes more affordable.
- 2.0 out of 5
Got a D80 body as a replacement for my D70 and ended up keeping the D70! Using identical image processing settings the D70 images were far better than those produced from the D80. It could be that I had a "bad example" but the results were very soft with poor colour rendition. If you shoot mainly in NEF format best budget for Nikon Capture NX because D80 files cannot be processed through Capture 4. Going to SD card format has to be a backward step, how long will the spring that holds the SD card in last before failing? It seems that DSLR makers are going down the same route as consumer digicams did by making pixel count higher and higher without paying regard to the fact that there are only a certain number of pixels can be fitted in a given size before noise and crosstalk intrudes. 10 million plus pixels yes but not in an APS size sensor. Better results can be obtained by interpolation of a 6 megapixel image in Photoshop, I have the results to prove this statement. I would advise anyone save money get a D70 or D50 and spend the savings on good quality glass to put in front of it
Nikon D80 (Body Only) Comments & Questions (write your own!)
I am thinking I do not want to spend anymore than $4000 and i think the Nikon D2 Xs would be good because i can exchange lenses. I am interested your opinion in whether their is a equal or better one available. Remember I like these features and so far my camera has been dependable.
If you're interested in sticking with Nikon (which is smart cause you've got the accessories), take a moment to consider the Nikon D80 SLR. It's a great update on the popular D70 SLR, and relatively affordable, priced at around $1000-1200.
If you're not making a living as a professional newspaper, magazine, or fashion photographer, the D2X might be overkill--it really is a camera geared and priced for true professionals.
All that said, I can't say anything bad about the D2X. It's well-made with serious photographers in mind, and is capable of great things. If you're not shy about the cost and think you can make good use of its features, go for it.
Take a look at our product pages for reviews from real users who have hands on experience with these cameras. We also provide a list of places you can buy them from, so you can make sure you get the best price.
Hope this helps!
Nikon D2X:
digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... Nikon D80: digitalcamera-hq.com/digita...
I need recommendations for start-up camera and lens combinations that will yield good results for under $2,000. We have film slrs, and want to use digital at 8 megapixel or higher.
thanks
Canon: Canon 400D ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ) or the more durable Canon 30D ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... )
Nikon:
Nikon D80 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ) or the more durable Nikon D200 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... )
Sony (formerly Minolta, now out of the camera biz):
Sony Alpha a100 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... )
Pentax:
Pentax K100D ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... )
I do aerial photography as a part of my job. I use a Canon 10D and with some Photoshop plugins, have made prints up to 20"x30" that look pretty good.
I agree with TomH's camera recommendations and suggest that most of your money be budgeted towards a Vibration Reduction lens that is fast (has minimum aperature setting of f/2.8 or less). When doing aerial photography, one of the biggest problems is the constant vibration of the airplane transferred to the camera. With a fast vibration reduction lens, you will greatly minimize this.
You can find some better places to get the D80 at this link ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ), and each seller has ratings from people who have bought from them in the past. Choose wisely!
How in the world can you sell a video camera without any battery ? They will offer you a battery for more than $100 but in the end you'll be informed that you'll have 3 batteries. TOTAL DISAPPOINTMENT
You can buy manual focus lenses for the Nikon D80 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ). Most for the camera come with that ability.
Andrew
Some of our favorites are the Canon 30D ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ) or Nikon D80 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ).
If you're serious and don't mind paying extra for the additional megapixels and tools/adjustments, go for the top of the line D2X. If you don't want to spend that much or need that serious of a camera, the D80 is the most lightweight you'll probably want to go, with fewer options, a smaller price tag, and a hefty megapixel rate.
I am very glad I found this site, because I know there are people out there that know a an infinite amount more than me about this subject. I'm a painter and draftsman, although I know Photoshop backward and forward - the ONLY good thing about spending 30 years in the commercial art marketplace, for me at least - but I apply it now to our Photographic workflow with great success. But I digress, I want to buy the best rig I can for my wife - a photographer, whose working for a local company now, but looking to get back into HER first love - the fine art aspect of taking beautiful photographs - simply because that's what she has always loved and now she's getting her chance. If you can help me out it will be a gift indeed. Thanks in advance!
Has anyone out there sourced one of these lenses and is it worth the big price?
Liz Davidson
Marlborough
New Zealand
You've got it, I'm still looking for an answer, so thank you very much for the link. I'll post it there and see what happens.
Regards,
Al Snyder
Maybe you have already have purchased a lens, but since you have the question still open I will give it a shot.
Both the 18-135mm and the 18-200mm lenses are excellent, I would say that the D80 and the D200 have the best digital lenses offered in box kits. Both lenses have an extremely quick and a very quiet auto focus motor, they also have a great balance between wide to telephoto.
Here are a few options:
1) If money is not an issue, then get the 18-200mm
2) For most photo shooting situations the 18-135mm(27-200mm 35mm equivalent) is generally all that photographers really need, unless they require a specialty lens. At a full extended zoom its just long enough zoom ratio to maintain razor sharp images with out sacrificing to much depth of field. Its also a long enough zoom to get lens compression for portraits or general sports coverage and just wide enough for general interior shots with very minmal distortion. The few negative reviews I have read about the 18-135mm lens could be a defect, but I am guessing that allot of times its usually user error. I do not take any advice on certain issues unless their experts or I run tests of my own. So save yourself the money, The Nikkor 18-135mm is a good lens. I have tested this lens professionally on location and in the studio, with models, products, art reproductions, landscapes, interior design, and some action sports. The quality is excellent. Remember, that the 35mm equivalent focal length is 27-200mm. If you do not really shoot Field sports or wildlife on a regular basis, I would consider a wider lens.
The Bottom Line:
If you don't buy a digital lens longer than 135mm(200mm 35mm equivalent), don't sweat it. The beauty of the 10 MP with the D80 is that you can crop your images and enlarge a portion of the frame with still maintaining a great image quality, especially with raw image files, there is tons of packed data information. If you only used around 65% of the frame by cropping your image closer to give you a simulation of a longer zoom ratio, you would still have no problem making nice clear wall prints at around 28x40"". The D80 renders the pixels like continuous film tone, so you have mega back up pixels to work with.
I hope this info has been helpful in your decision of lenses.
Happy Shopping!
Piero Foto
Out of the two cameras you mentioned, I would say that anyone who is not aspiring to be a pro should choose the D70 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ) simply because it's less complicated. There are a LOT of features on both cameras (but more on the D80 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ) that would simply go unused by anyone who was not extremely familiar with DSLRs.
I would suggest that if you're just looking for something to take good photos, you should look into a point and shoot rather than one of these two. Both of these are very much professional-level cameras and you're going to be spending a lot of money for many features that you probably won't be using.
I'd look at some <a href="digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... and shoots</a> before making a purchase- there are a lot of excellent ones out there that will give you great results for a lot less money.
what point and shoot do you have, and what features are you looking for? Many point and shoots have a Manual mode where you can control the settings yourself; this gives them the flexibility of low-end DSLRs without the price tag (or the complication).
Jack
It also takes great portraits and landscapes. Unless you want to blow up beyond 8x10 the 6.1 MP is all you need. It is easy to operate, light and takes essentially all Nikon and compatible after market (AF) lenses and accessories.
can you help ?
thanks.
With removable memory cards in a DSLR, you can buy an adapter that hooks right up to your USB port. It is easy to transfer the data this way by just dragging and dropping from the adapter folder in your windows explorer function if you're using a PC. If you're using a Mac, it works much the same.
Andrew
Money is not my point. The features is more importance.
How DCHQ measures?
This camera would be phenomenal for the types of shots you'll want to get. I'd recommend getting a couple of different lenses (wide angle and a telephoto) for your trip. You'll want the wide angle for the landscape and waterscape shots. Something that goes down to 17mm should be fine. If you want to get closeups of any wildlife if you go on land, you might want to invest in a telephoto that goes at least to 300mm. If you purchase the Nikon D80 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ), ensure you set it for the finest resolution for the best quality prints later on. I would also look at getting a polarized filter for your lenses to reduce glare from the water and glaciers in Alaska.
Andrew
Thanks for you answer, I already knew that, what I wanted to know is which camera and lens does the best job.
I have selected a camera and I am still looking at lenes. Canon Rebal XTi
Say you're using a 55mm "prime" lens. Since the CCD is smaller than 35mm, only about 23, the image gets magnified slightly. Multiply the number of millimeters by 1.5, and you'll be very close to how the lens will actually perform. In this case, a 55mm lens will act like an 82mm lens.
This is not "actual" magnification, remember. Your D80 is actually cropping the image down and resizing it. It only looks magnified.
You're moving to an "F" mount camera lense (50mm for example).
If she likes the D-80 and wants to step up she always has the option to trade up.
Just thinking outloud! Have been a Nikon product guy for many years!
Great cameras...great lenses!
Tim F
Both of those cameras are very good, and if you are concerned about the camera being too advanced, there are training videos available that discuss every feature and function of the camera. You can go to elitevideo.com to check out some of the videos, they're very helpful to me. I learn about features I didn't even know existed! Anyway, just a suggestion.
A. Brown
With that said, Canon has a better selection of lenses available that are fully functioning with their DSLRs, so if you're planning on purchasing lenses/ adding elements to the camera in the future you may want to consider that. General consensus (and I agree with it) is that Canon is moving faster technology-wise so if you are interested in upgrading in the future, that might be a deciding factor.
I love the Nikons, but the 30D ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ) wins this debate in my opinion. People who buy it seem to do so because it is pleasingly laid out and the controls are a bit easier on the hands than the D80 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... )... of course that won't matter since you've tried and liked the D70, but it's an argument I hear a lot.
The 30D has a better burst mode (5fps vs 3fps on the Nikon) and faster operation in general in most tests. I have heard that the 30D has more metal and less plastic on the body compared to the D80, but I'm not sure if that's true or not.
I think that the 30D also wins in the image department. High ISOs are cleaner, image quality in general is sharper and better.
These are both great cameras, and a lot depends on your lenses. I would choose the 30D, but honestly if I were you I would go to a store and handle it next to the D80 and see what feels right to you. You should be totally happy either way.
Your current 23-85mm lens should be ok, but you might look at something a bit shorter since you can't continue to back up when inside. DigitalAdvisor.com ( digitaladvisor.com/ ) has a great lens section ( digitaladvisor.com/lenses/ ) for research. Something like the Nikon Nikkor 12-24mm lens ( digitaladvisor.com/lenses/n... ) would be something to look at to capture an entire room or the front of a large house or property. Good luck.
Andrew
Its been awhile that you asked your question, since your question is still open I will take the time to give you a response.
For starters, the Nkon D80 DSLR camera body is an excellent choice. For interior work I am going to recommend a couple lenses that will work, but the nikon lens would be the best since its also a true digital lens and made for Nikon with superior optics. The sigma could be also considered if its a matter of budget.The Sigma has it has f/2.8 aperture for lower lighting conditions, but if you shoot proper long exposure interior shots on a tripod then the faster lens is not needed. They both have great depth-of-field and minimal distortion.
Recommend lenses for Interiors.
- Nikon Nikkor AF-S DX 12-24mm f/4G IF-ED Lens
- Sigma 17-35mm f/2.8-4 EX DG IF HSM Aspherical Super Wide Angle Zoom Lens for
Nikon SLR Cameras with distortion correction
Keep in mind that when shooting interiors with extra wide angle lenses, you can minimize your lens distortion by lowering your tripod so that your point of camera view is around 28"-32" in height from the floor and keep your camera perfectly level. This should give you a more of a corrected architecual interior look that you might see in magazine photos. If you need to have your camera height more than 32", just remember to keep the camera as level as possible, you will get more ceiling but you can crop your images later.
HERE IS SOME INFO ON THE NIKON D80:
The Nikon D80 has Incredible Image quality, Its the best all around digital SLR camera and digital zoom lens combination with in $1200.
I have been using the D80 camera now for about 5 months. Originally, I was trying to decide Between the D200 and D80, but do to budget, I chose the D80. I have absolutely no regrets with the D80 in any way. The D80 more has more than covered my DSLR photography needs. The Nikon D80 is action packed with many features and functions. The fact that it has so many options, it makes the D80 with the superb 18-135 zoom lens a very versatile DSLR system for any photographers shooting style.
For most photo shooting situations the 18-135mm(27-200mm 35mm equivalent) that comes with the D80 kit is generally all that photographers really need. At full extended zoom its just long enough zoom ratio to maintain razor sharp images with out sacrificing to much depth of field. Its also a long enough zoom to get lens compression for portraits or general sports coverage and just wide enough for general interior shots with very minmal distortion. It has an extremely quick and has a very quiet auto focus motor with a great balance between wide to telephoto. If you have certain specific lens needs, Nikon offers a good line of other lenses.
After seeing results of a 10 megapixel picture file from the D80, I am truly impressed. I have taken RAW files from the D80 and magnified them a few hundred percent with out any sign of pixel break up, it looks like continuous film tone, now that's very impressive. The CCD chip in general is with out a doubt Superior over the CMOS chip, its a fact. I would claim that it takes approximately 20% or more megapixels for a CMOS chip to be comparable to CCD technology. CCD chips are more difficult and more expensive to produce. The D80 CCD chip produces excellent results across the board. The CMOS chip usually has more difficulties in the lower to higher end of the RGB scale.
I hope this info helps out. If you have the situation under control and do not need any further advice on your question, it would be a good idea to close off the question and start a new one if you need other advice, thanks!
Happy Shooting!
Piero Foto
My view on this is that it's really not worth it; if you're attached to your Nikon lenses then I would really consider a Nikon DSLR that could use them. D80 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ) is a great choice. It's my opinion that the high-end DSLRs are awfully comparable to each other and that brand preference is the real deal breaker for most people, not some shortcoming in one or the other of the cameras. For the record, though, if I had the money I'd buy the D80 based on performance as well.
Andrew
Both can suite your needs, but I'll tell you this, when I'm on the sidelines of a pro game, I see a lot of Canon's out there. But those Nikkor lenses ...
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Oh, didn't look at the date...
What exactly do you mean by instant on? Many higher end consumer digitals start up in around or under a second, which is pretty close to instant. There are also many cameras that are capable of 3fps in burst mode. I guess I just need a little more information as to what you're looking for.
Thanks!
If you want to know the basics then the best idea is probably visiting a bookstore and getting a digital photography book for beginners. Those books usually explain pretty clearly what are the main differencies between film and digital cameras. Since you have been using film SLRs then there are two pretty important things to know. 1- most of your old SLR lenses will work with your digital SLR if the brand is the same. You can not use all of the dSLR automatic functions with old lenses of course. 2- most dSLRs have 1.5 crop factor. Means that 50mm lens will work as 75mm lens for example.
I just received my camera yesterday and this was the best site that I discovered. Great overview of camera. How
The reason I'm interested in this lens is because of the price,
and I take a certain amount of wildlife photos. thank you George
The Tamron 28-300mm Lens ( digitaladvisor.com/lenses/t... ) will work just fine with the Nikon D80 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ). Tamron is a good lens, and can save you with lower prices.
Andrew
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, I WAS HOPING FOR
ANSWER.
GEROGE
Some one has written a review of this lens with an illustration on the closeup of a flower.
If you are interested log on to the following site for further information :
bythom.com/55200lens.htm
Yes... I know it's December (long way from April) ,sorry for the very late reply,. I appreciate your recommendation and will give strong consideration to this lens.
F/4.5-5.6 lens looks nice, it is a little slower, but gives you more zoom capability. It to has the VR. You can check out the page with the link below to see Nikon's other lenses, and find out more details no these ones: nikon.ca/en/Lens.aspx
Hope this info is what you wanted and works well for you. Happy searching - Josh
I am guessing that your question is about 18-200mm lens? If so then the answer is Yes if you are taking pictures in good light. Horses normally run outside so the light should be good enough. Just set the shutter speed to 200 at least, better even 300-500. The best way to do so is to use the shutter speed priority mode. Camera will then set appropriate aperture for the lens.
I wondered how people who currently own a d80 and photograph things like horse in full gallop, dogs running full out were faring with the d80...
Any help would be greatly appreciated....
If you're up to the challenge, this may not be a big deal for you. It certainly has the power to get the job done. However, note that it doesn't have anti dust removal as a feature, so if you're going to be shooting pictures on ball fields, this may be problematic for you, but no more problematic than before this technology came into being.
I would recommend taking a look at the Canon Digital Rebel XTi ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ) which not only has many comparible features, but also comes with Image Stabilization and the anti dust removal (using low grade sound waves to vibrate the dust off the lens). Also, if you're going to be shooting distance shots from the sidelines, the ability to rely on image stabilization is a plus to combat camera shake.
One thing the D80 does have going for it is the Nikon F mount, which allows you to use just about any Nikon/Nikkor lens. And there's some pretty good ones out there.
However, Nikon lenses translate to expensive. So if you're on a budget, you'll probably want to go with an all in one solution to start. I would recommend the 28-200mm f/3.5-5.6G ED-IF AF Zoom-Nikkor. It has a decent focal range and at f 3.5, is fairly descent in speed.
Also, you may want to swing by Imaging Resource ( imaging-resource.com/IMCOMP... ) and compare the two. Input both models and you'll see examples of similar shots taken with both. This will give you a good idea of their performance as well.
It is perfect for Indoor/Wedding/Party and Landscape piccies..
Expect to pay around £280/£300 on the net.
You would be better shopping around for the D80 body on its own and a couple of decent lenses.
If you can go for it get the 18-200 mm Nikon VR lens..this will do you for everyday use and you wont need another lens ever if you had these 2.
Hope this helps..
Read about this great Nikon Lens here.
kenrockwell.com/nikon/18200...
And the Sigma Lens here.
ephotozine.com/article/Sigm...
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3. Select language and you will be able to change it to English from the list.
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I don't know if Nikon uses plastic lenses. If so, I am sure it would only be on the low-level models.
You need to buy the adapter As-15 and slot into the hot shoe to establish electrical contact before flash synchronization takes effect.
AS-15 can be found at <a href="onecall.com/ProductDetails.... location</a>
For the follow up question of D90, it is already out and available in the market.
The improvements include live view and capability of taking movie clips.
More details are found in <a href="nikonusa.com/Find-Your-Niko... this advertisement </a>
Why not just invest about $10 into a USB memory card reader?
speed is more of a transfer issue
That's the advantage of Nikon's glass.
Thanks again for your feedback James!
I also hear of a program called RawShooter Essentials. It's open source. It'll read your NEF file and allow you to save the file to a tif file, which you can open with CS.
There may be other ways.
The Sony H9 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ) looks to be the way to go. While both cameras seem to have the same features, the H9 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ) has more optical zoom at 15x. The ISO 3200 will perform much better in low light settings (although add some graininess to the photos), and the camera has a highly touted "Night Shot" mode which is supposed to take photos in almost complete darkness. I hope this helps. Good luck and happy shooting.
Andrew
I just purchased a Canon S5 of my own and I chose this camera due to the features which appeal to me. I've read a many reviews on this camera, and although there are still many aspect I would have like to have which were not there, I decided that it's a price compromise maybe on the manufacturer's part.
For the S5, some of the better features include: -
1. movie function - although H9 can give the same resolution, due to S5 USM lens, I'll be able to get silent and smooth zooming in movie mode, also there is stereo sound recording available.
2. Feature-wise, S5 offers more! All the functions available on a SLR camera can be found on the S5, and all the buttons are well arrange and user-friendly. The functions are extensive and it's fully manual. There's a flash hot-shoe for whenever the need for a flash upgrade arises and then there is the converters features available for wider or more telephotos.
3. Less noise suppression, but this could be a disadvantage depending on your liking. I find that too much noise suppression really only cause the image to become less real, and H9 higher noise suppression for even low ISO is actually not a good idea to my liking. At least with the S5, I'll be able to know that, say, if I've set it to a high ISO and find that the image is too noisy, I can switch it to a lower ISO and try to steady up my hand, this way, I'll be able to get more accurate result.
4. S5 uses SD card format, it's more common and much less expensive than Sony's memory stick.
5. S5 uses AA batteries, instead of Li-Ion, this to me is a better option, as it's cheaper to get spares rechargeables, easy to buy AA anywhere if I'm on an extended trip, or if I just happen to run out of battery.
On the other hand, the H9 offers: -
1. a better zoom range of 31mm - 465mm, although distortion at these extreme are more apparent than the S5.
2. night mode, which I think is more gimmick than function.
3. faster shot-to-shot time, if you intent to captures lots of sports/ kids running around, etc, than this is a plus.
4. faster flash recharge due to the lithium ion rechargeable, compared to S5 AAs.
etc etc.
Just read through online reviews to get an idea of what features appeal more to your particular needs.
dpreview.com/reviews/compar...
This URL will compare these two cameras' specifications.
Also be sure to view the sample photos for each camera and judge quality for yourself.
Lastly, be sure to go to a camera store and hold each camera in your hands to determine fit and feel which can be a major factor in your purchase.
Enjoy, Larry
I was going through some of the comparisions on some sites and I found that features I am looking for Can be found in S5 IS.
But there is one thing I found out, and that is about the LCD Display. I read that LCD Display is not all that good as compared to H9 ?
I also found in the DPReview site (link above) that H9 is SLR Like Digital Camera while S5 is rated as Compact.
Can somebody please clarify my doubts on this ?
Thanks !!
I own a S5, and I find that the LCD is quite sufficient, even in bright outdoor situations. There even a setting to brighted up the LCD a notch if required. I haven't use the H9 before so I couldn't comment on the LCD, most probably it could be better, but for me, in the end, it's what the camera offered that was important.
Since you say the S5's features matches you more, go have a look and test out the feel of the camera and the LCD at a shop to see whether it fits your needs!
The LCD's are similar, but the S5is has a more versatile Flip and Twist arrangement.
The S5is LCD is 2.5 inches with 207,000 pixels while the H9 LCD is 3 inches with 230,000 pixels which is not a significant difference. Check them out in person at the camera store.
The S5is LCD is easier to see in bright light than the H9's.
If the features of the Canon S5is suit you better AND it feels comfortable in your hands (fit and feel) and easy to operate controls, then you have a winner.
You mention that with the Canon S5 you get "silent and smooth zooming in movie mode", does this mean you can zoom in and out while taking the movie? I couldn't find a reference to this feature for S5 in dpreview or in the Canon user manual, although it is mentioned for the Sony DSC H9...
I'm also a little confused with shot-to-shot times and flash recycling time, since I have found some tests showing that the Canon is actually faster (imaging-resource.com/PRODS/... versus imaging-resource.com/PRODS/...
We're trying to decide between the H9 and S5 and have come to the conclusion that Canon offers somewhat better quality (less blur, distortion, purple fringing) but Sony has some more impressive features (15x zoom, nightshot, remote control, 3" display). So any help will be greatly appreciated!!
Thanks!!
Nicholas
I'm not really sure about the H9 shot-to-shot time, the S5 typically gives about 1.2 fps at the highest resolution (without continuous focusing) and about 0.8fps with continuous focusing. This is typically ok for me, but could have been better, I guess, but this is not an SLR, so can't complain. Flash recycling time, again I'm not sure about H9, for the S5, the flash recycling time is stated to be around 4 to 5 seconds, which coincided with my experience of it. And everytime I want to shoot with flash, I'll have to wait for a few second before I can shoot! On flash recycling time, it would probably be safe to assume that the H9 will be faster, since it uses a Li-Ion propriety battery.
One thing on the S5, I found that the Noise at higher ISO to be very high! If you plan to shoot with ranges of ISO, then S5 might be a tad disappointing. On this note, I read that panasonic's 18x superzoom performs extremely well throughout its ISO range due to its better in camera noise reduction software processing. I just found a website www .popphoto. com that gives very statistical reviews on camera, maybe you can have a read there!
Everything about the S5 is extremely good, touch, feel, hold, built quality, lens, AA batteries, SDHC card. All apart from having stellar image quality (on higher ISO, ie. anything above ISO 200)! have a read at the review site.
Canon PowerShot S5is
Kodak EasyShare Z712is
Casio Exilim EX-V7
Fuji Finepix S700
If anyone can add to this list please do and I will share with everyone. Thanks, Larry
Larry, the Sony DSC-H9 and H5 also zoom optically during video (see dpreview.com/reviews/sonyh9... Apparently video quality is not very good on the Sony H9 though, because of MPEG-1 compression. The Canon S5 produces larger files, but you can always buy more memory...
Nicholas
And, yes, memory is getting cheaper, faster and bigger all the time. I just bought a Panasonic SDHC 8MB Class 6 card!
Here's the link to the panasonic FZ-18: popphoto.com/cameras/4837/p...
If image quality is top of your list, this is probably the better choice, on the other hand, if taking video is priority, then S5 is still the best choice. Again, looks, feel and built quality, S5 is top of the line, so to me it was a shame that picture quality was not there to match, maybe they should have included RAW in the package... as RAW enable superb high ISO+ high resolution shots for Canon G9!
Another thing on the S5, I've confirmed with Canon and they informed me that 4GB SDHC card is the maximum for this camera, anything higher will cause the operation to be very slow (in their own words), so limit yourself to 4GB SDHC, class 6 is the best!
Andrew
"Vanity Fairy": The dpreview site actually gives a better review for the Canon S5 (8,1 average total score) than the Sony H9 (7,7) and the S5 beats H9 in "Image Quality", "Optics", "Build & Quality", "Ergonomics & Handling". The H9 doesn't beat the S5 in any category. See dpreview.com/reviews/canons... and dpreview.com/reviews/sonyh9... Also check the sample movies from the S5 and H9 in the same site: the H9's movie quality is much worse because of the MPEG-1 compression it uses.
The infrared & remote control are nice to have, but how often do you actually use them? Having AA batteries, SD card and good movie quality (plus taking photos during a movie!) is much more important to me...
Remote control are useful, but not essential, we could just make do with the "delay" shooting - i.e. shoot with the timer, which is easily set on the S5 and most other cameras where there's a dedicated timer button, and on S5, you can easily set different time for the timer...
S5 will top the list of movie quality for a digital camera. Only thing is the capacity of the cards! 4GB cards will only give about 32 minutes of video at the highest capacity, so to make use of the 60minutes limit, you'll have to shoot at a lower quality setting, either the LP 640x480 or the 30fps 320x240, either way, it will still be of higher quality than H9 MPEG-1 compression!
So again, if video is the deciding factor for your purchase, then get S5. If image quality is the deciding factor get Canon G9! If zoom is the deciding factor, get Panasonic FZ-18. If useless gimmicks are the order of the day, then by all means, get H9! haha!
IM THE VANITY FAIRY, BABY!, Actually, you sort of get the idea of the value of the camera from the package sold by the manufacturer! I.e. why did they throw in all the extras in! Because they know it's the common sense thing to do to entice consumers to buy their camera against competitors who produces a higher quality camera, if you get what I mean! -ditto- with Canon, if they think that say H9 is on par with its' S5, they would do the same and throw in the same extras in their package...
That may have been due to some quality issues. I had similar issues with my old extended zoom and switched over to dSLR and will never go back. I know its a bit more expensive, but they are so much more versatile and responsive. Good luck in your search.
Andrew
If you read the reviews on these cameras at dpreview.com you will find actual measured values for the shutter lag. However, some definitions are in order since they break the timings down into first part and second part. The first is time to focus (shutter button half-way down) and set exposure, detect faces etc., and the second is the actual "shutter" time (from half pressed to full pressed). Usually they also give a combined full press time. BUT don't expect your camera to focus if you skip the half-pressed position. These P&S cameras all take some time to focus. If you just press the button all the way down all at once, it will take a picture immediately without focusing properly. So prefocusing at the halfway position is critical to reducing shutter lag into the .1 and less range. Some P&S digital cameras also allow you to focus lock so the camera can then take pictures without having to refocus, and this will reduce the "shutter lag" also. Continuous shooting modes typically make use of this option to speed the shot to shot time by only focusing on the first picture.
Bottom line, Andrew has it right -- if you want to virtually eliminate shutter lag you have to go to dSLR, but if you practice some shooting techniques with P&S cameras you can reduce the lag into the 0.01-0.10 range which may be acceptable.
1. The Sony felt better in my hands than the Canon. I had a better grip and the camera was better balanced. Both handled equally well in all other respects.
2. Both cameras seemed to display little difference in composing and taking a full auto picture. I do believe the Sony was a bit more responsive in "dependable" focusing and speed of focus.
3. As for macro photography, I believe the Sony rendered a slightly better picture in that the color balance and contrast were more pleasing to my eye. There was no distinguishable difference in clarity and sharpness between the Sony or Canon
4. For portraits, the Sony won hands down. The flesh tones rendered were significantly better with the Sony. As for clarity, the overall appeal was slightly in favor of Sony primarily due to the fantastic flesh tones and the general smoothness of color throughout the picture. Not to say the Canon wasn't good, it was great...just that the Sony had an edge on color quality.
5. Landscape shots were found equally good. I focussed in on several shots of birds and there was an edge given to Canon on sharpness but the Sony won out due to the across the board smoothness of color and the overall pleasing visual quality of the print.
6. Flash photos were both equally good without a clear winner but that color thing, that you're sick of hearing me talk about, was again the winner for me. The scales tilted in favor of the H9 for me.
8. Both cameras put the Minolta 35mm to shame in color rendition. There are, as you know, many variables with film, developing chemistry, and so on. Yet, as far as sharpness, the Minolta held its own with both the digitals though not necessarily better than either the S5 or H9.
So, what did I buy...I bought Sony, not because of specifications and other peoples opinions but on a side-by-side comparison with the way I take pictures, what I take pictures of, the process I have them developed and judged what my eyes told me about the two different cameras. Both cameras are great, I just preferred the Sony.
Hope this has helped.
I would say that a side by side comparison is definitely the best way to pick between two items, not just cameras. Thanks for your insight on this (from one "supposed expert" to another).
Andrew
Well, if it is high resolution, and fast photo you need, then it's best to get a dSLR, since you have several lenses, it's probably best to go with a Nikon that takes them... pricey though!
I've hear the Nikon D80 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ) will accept more lenses than the newer cameras. You might give that a try if you want to make the investment.
Andrew
Instead, I bought a Canon S5IS as a stopgap to Canon eventually putting a decent adapter for their older FD lenses. I do own some very serious glass and it's all lost.
So far, in about a year, I've taken well over 3000 photos and the camera stands up well. Yhe big dilemma I have when taking some action is whether or not to shoot in the "continuous" mode or the S5 "movie" mode. Unfortunately, it's impossible to print anything in the movie mode (AVI file). This mode however yields some invaluable history and the operator can shoot as long as the card will hold.
One of the big factors that influenced my choice is the fact that the camera accepts AA batteries. While the operator could go for the ordinary AAs, they have virtualy no power and will probably last about a half-hour under normal shooting contitions. They'll surely drain very quickly in the "movie" mode!! I opted instead tof the NiMH batteries; the higher the milliamperage, the better.
Ihe shutter is noiseless but it has a nice selection of sounds in the menu and I like a nice loud "click", just like in the old days. In the movie mode, it's noiseless. The movie button is a bit dinky but I've operated it with gloves in the winter (at 10 below), shooting railroad at trackside. One warning with the movie mode is that you have to know when to start and stop the camera, as there is a very small delay (.2 sec or so) before the movie mode starts. Also, you have to leave a bit of room at the end. It's esay to zoom while shooting but it may not be as smooth as desired, if the camera is not tripod-mounted.
There are lots and lots of bells and whistles on the S5IS it's an excellent choice for the well-versed amateur. With an optical zoom of a bit over 400mm equivalent to a 35mm, it's worth its weight in gold to acquire far detail if needed. Mind you, getting closer is much better but sometimes, there isn't the choice.
For its price, the Canon S5IS is a worthy alternative to any EOS, without getting soaked to death by the price, giving of course that it's not as robust and perhaps lacking certain features, such as RAW.
Before I buy an EOS, I will certainly be looking for the successor to the S5IS but so far, my S5 is a real gem.
I forgot to add that, following my retirement as Manager of Photo Services at a large Canadian Airforce Base, I was employed as a photographer in a large museum and, when chemicals interfered with my health, worked for some years selling cameras. I am now completely retired but photography is still in my blood and I use the S5IS about every second day to take anything from 5 pics to 100 or more.
Thanks for the excellent write-up on the S5is. I really appreciate your effort to share the information. With your experience I bet you could write a book!
Well done.
Please keep us enlightened in any manner that you can think of !!
This is possible with some of the newer dSLR cameras, but not all of them. From what I can glean from the product brochure ( nikonusa.com/fileuploads/pd... ), you can only do this with optional software (Camera Control Pro) when hooked up to your computer. I hope this helps.
Andrew
You can get adapters to use other lenses, but again, the tradeoffs rather defeat the purpose in my view. And you don't really have to spend over a thousand for a Nikon unless you really want to. Check out third party lenses like from Sigma and Tokina, a few have been rated even better by Photography magazine.
And check eBay. A good used Nikkor lens is still a Nikkor lens!
For what you want to do, I would definitely go with a dSLR ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ). There are a lot to choose from, so you have to look at your budget and take into account how much your extras are going to cost. As for a lens, if you just want to start out and get something thats is decently versatile, I would go for a Tamron Di II 18-250mm Asphyrical lens ( tamron.com/lenses/prod/1825... ). They are less expensive than the name brands and they make lenses that work with Canon, Nikon, Sony, or Pentax (not all 4 at once though). You should also take into account that you should get an extra battery or two as well as at least 2 memory cards and a good camera bag. If you're serious about your photography, I would also recommend picking up a tripod for steadier shots.
Andrew
That lens does not have vibration reduction, but it should still work fine. Between the two cameras above, there isn't a big difference between them that I can see. If they were my only choices, I would go with the less expensive D40x ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ). As for other brands, Nikon makes excellent cameras. I, personally, shoot with Canon cameras. It is just a preference in the user interface on my part though.
I would recommend going to a camera shop and holding a couple in your hands to see what you're comfortable with. I've found that a photographer will take better pictures the more comfortable they are with their equipment. I hope this helps.
Andrew
I'm glad we could help clear things up for you at least a bit. Please feel free to come back with more questions or issues.
Andrew
I own a Canon XTi ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ) and just love it. The 9 point AF isn't something I use a lot though. What I do like is the lighter feel of the camera (I carry it around a lot), and it's user interface.
Larger lenses will increase the weight of the camera significantly. The VR in the Nikon D80's ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ) body also adds to the weight of the camera. If it's in your budget and you like the feel I would go with it.
Andrew
They seem to sell name brand merchandise. I did find them on ResellerRatings.com ( resellerratings.com/store/E... ), and they score very poorly out of over 541 lifetime ratings at 0.75 out of a possible 10. The also score 1 out of 5 from 129 reviews on epinions.com ( epinions.com/webs-Web_Servi... ). After reading some of the reviews, I would recommend purchasing from a more reputable seller.
Andrew
I have two Tamron lenses that I use on my Canon dSLR. I've found them to be very versatile and a great option for a less expensive lens.
Andrew
So my question is therefor - what is the different between Canon rebel xti 400D and Canon eos 40D???
The Canon 40D ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ) is a more advanced camera. It has a faster processor, a broader ISO range, and faster shutter speeds. While both are good cameras, if you have the budget, I would go for the Canon 40D ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ). Good luck and happy shooting.
Andrew
Be advised, however, that the D80 does have a .80 millesecond delay.
Can I use it on my D89?
If you use it as a slave, it probably will work.
Beyond that, you will find that D40 takes on APS lens with built in focusing motor, whereas D80 accepts most traditional lens without built in focusing motors.
Your lenses from N70 days probably belong to the later and they only go well with D80.
If you are buying the body, D80 should be the one you are looking for.
There is a forum discussion about compatibility of N70 lenses with D70 body. D70, like D80 , accepts lens without built in motor.
The discussion probably throws light to your question and you may take a look at the answers at <a href="photo.net/nikon-camera-foru... this location </a>
I would expect prices of D80 to drop and you should get a good bargain.
I hardly buy any cameras through the internet mainly because dSLRs are expensive to begin with, and I want to satisfy myself that the item I bought is brand new, not a demo item, not a returned item, no scratches or signs of mishandling etc etc. and I take pictures with it and see that it works properly before I go to the cashier.
I can do that because the camera shop is just 5 minutes walk from my house and half an hour's trip will lead me to 10 or 20 of them. In that sense, I really can't recommend any internet store. Sorry.
In such cases, customers can expect little extras from them, if you ask.
Items like camera bags, camera brush, mini tripods, memory cards or screen protector are some of the items I used to get from the salesman.
Salesperson are also very obliging before you decide to buy the camera. Do take the opportunity to ask for tips on how to operate the camera, any accessories, or a demonstration on the quality of pictures taken with cameras in the same price range.
It is the personal touch that is missing in Internet purchases and it is also the confidence that " you buy what you see ", not what people promise you in the net.
2. I need a compatible lens and was thinking to the Nikkor 50mm f/1.8 but am not sure how to know which series is good. I read here that you reccomend a Sigma zoom, I think it was 18-200. Which series is good and is it better than the same price range in Nikkor?
It really doesn't matter much, for a first time owner, whether you buy D90 or D60.
D80 is a bit out of date, and has been replaced by D90. You wouldn't go for it unless you are budget conscious.
D90 is the latest in the line, having features not found in D60, such as life view and taking movie clips, besides enjoying the support of more lens, Nikon, Sigma, Tamron or Tokina alike.
D60 on the other hand uses silent wave focussing motors built into the lens and enjoy acceptance in places and occassions where ' silence is golden '.
If you intend to go deep into photography, perhaps aiming to be a professional one day, D90 would be the obvious choice.
Whereas if you take photographs as a hobby, D60 will do quite well.
2. If budget is not a constrain, proud Nikon owners will always opt for Nikon lens although with today's lens technology, only seasoned users will be able to tell which lens is better than the others.
50mm lens was the standard kit lens for good old days cameras. Present day users will opt for zoom lens, 18-35mm for the wide angle zoom and 55-200 or 300mm for the longer range zoom.
Sigma lens is not that much cheaper, if you ask me, and if you are going to stick with a zoom lens for quite some time, it pays to invest in a Nikon.
Thanx for the answer. I still don't know which to go for. I see that you mentioned the D90 by the D60 while it seems to me that the D80 is closer to the D90 standard, isn't it? I am budget conscious and am wondering if the D80 is "good enough". I dropped by at a local store who said to go for the D90 since it's tech is better. I am not into the video feature so I wonder if the difference is worth the pay?
You can read about it all in this review. <a href="dpreview.com/reviews/nikond... D90 vs D80 </a>
D80 is more than ' good enough ' for many if ' video feature ' is not to be considered and price differences is of primary concern.
I hope I'm not pushing it, but after checking the comparison you added, I have a need for a few clarifications:
1. Is the Image Sensor Cleaning any good? What does it do exactly?
2. What is the difference between the CMOS sensor & the CCD sensor? How necessary is it?
and a last thing....
How much memory do you suggest purchasing? I was told there is an adapter that enables automatic download without the use of a mediator. Is this necessary? and... I heard there is a remote for the camera? What is it's use?
I promise these are the last of my questions... again, I thank you beforehand. You are very very helpful...
It happens more often to those who change lens regularly, especially the professionals, not you and me.
2. CMOS sensor and CCD sensor are two different means of capturing images. There are pros and cons of each, but generally, CMOS sensor are more common in dSLR, particularly Canon and high end Nikons, and CCDs are usually found in compact P&S.
The choice of sensor does not arise out of necessity as such, although it is generally believed that CMOS consumes less power.
You can read more on the subject in <a href="dalsa.com/corp/markets/CCD_... this article </a>.
3. Memory cards, if that is what you mean, has dropped in price tremendously and if you buy the latest dSLR,
you can expect it to accept high speed memory cards that come in 4 gig, 8 gig, 16 gig or even 32 gig capacity.
For average users, 4 to 8 gig is more than enough unless you want to take a lot of movie clips.
4. Remote control comes in 2 forms, infra red remote control has a shorter range and lets you take your own pictures.
Wireless remote control lets you do more and usually is hooked up to the computer. It is sometimes used in monitoring and capturing pictures of birds and wild animals.
Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX2 (the best low light camera in the group), also DMC-FX35, and DMC-FX500
Fujifilm Finepix J150W
Nikon Coolpix S600 (refurb)
Casio Ex Z7200 (refurb)
Samsung NV24HD (the widest angle lens of the group)
If none of those suit you, then you could consider using the stitching function to create wider angle views without the wide angle lens. Most Canon cameras (and many others) have this function. Be aware that it takes more time to do this method because you have to do the stitching part on your computer so if you don't like the final result you might have to go back and shoot it again!
Thank You so much for your reply and clarification.
japie (Africa)
Thank you very much!!