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Panasonic Lumix DMC-LZ3
Editor's Review
The Panasonic Lumix DMC-LZ3 is Digital Camera HQ's favorite affordable camera, with a stunning feature set that seems like a steal for under $200.
The Panasonic Lumix DMC-LZ3 is steady, even when you're not. This model replaces the affordable and compact LZ1 with some outstanding features. The Mega O.I.S. (optical image stabilization) system of the LZ3 works hard to make sure none of your photographs are adversely affected by shaky hands or twitchy wrists. If you're concerned about blurry shots, this might be the camera for you. Be sure to check out the LZ5 as well, which has many of the same features but a larger number of megapixels.
Editor's Review
The Panasonic Lumix DMC-LZ3 is Digital Camera HQ's favorite affordable camera, with a stunning feature set that seems like a steal for under $200.
The Panasonic Lumix DMC-LZ3 is steady, even when you're not. This model replaces the affordable and compact LZ1 with some outstanding features. The Mega O.I.S. (optical image stabilization) system of the LZ3 works hard to make sure none of your photographs are adversely affected by shaky hands or twitchy wrists. If you're concerned about blurry shots, this might be the camera for you. Be sure to check out the LZ5 as well, which has many of the same features but a larger number of megapixels.
Specifications
- 5 megapixels
- 6x optical zoom / 7.5 digital zoom
- autofocus
- auto and manual exposure
- JPEG file format
- ISO 80-400
- 2 AA batteries
- movie mode
- 2" LCD screen
- Part Number: DMC-LZ3S
- UPC: 037988985371
- Release Date: Jan 10, 2006
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Panasonic Lumix DMC-LZ3 Comments & Questions (write your own!)
When I try to take a picture nothing happens and it won't scroll back through on playback or let me access the menus.
Finally if I go to SC1/SC2 it keeps scrolling through all the options like a button is jammed down or there is a frozen command.
I have tried turning it off and on several times. Taking the batteries out and leaving them out for 24hours. Any ideas much appreciated.
If none of that restores your camera functions, you're looking at a camera repair.
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can you tell me more information about what you wish to install
You can't really compare digital images to film images in terms of resolution. A film negative can be blown up to almost any size without noticeable distortion, whereas a digital image has a very specific limit for magnification because it's made up of discrete pixels. Furthermore, a film image can be scanned into a computer at nearly any resolution given a scanner powerful enough.
Hope this helps!
what you need is a camera with good spot metering.
this means the ability of the auto focus to center quickly on one object.
this is a feature of the lumix range of cameras from panasonic
i have a lz3 and often use it for this purpose.
digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... is a image taken by the lz3.
flickr.com/photos/geoffrey/... may also consider the new ls 60 which uses the same lumix system.
the best small portable tripod is :
iwantoneofthose.com/gorilla...
my fz3 has been through the wars it has been dropped at least 4 times
i have carried it around in a sports bag and it is still working
and to use that old pun "take a licking and still keeps clicking!"
same camera but at a quarter of the price
but if you must have the "leica" brand
leica-camera.co.uk/photogra...
yes, the feel of a camera is very important it is like a pair of shoes.
it is a very personal experience
my choice would be the panasonic lumix range
if you are on a budget try
digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... is a photo taken with the lumix lz3 showing its mastery of detail.
flickr.com/photos/andreas_h...
other factors are :
1.the quality of the lens .
2. the type of paper used.
3.. the sharpness of the original photo.
4. the type of printer used.
the lz3 produces pictures that are 2560 x1712 pixels in 3:2 mode which similar to normal 35mm film size
this will give you a 16in x 12 in print
if you need bigger try the lz7 or the new lz8
with shaky hands two things are important.
firstly : you need a camera that you grip easily a lot of modern digital cameras
are too small or shiny to afford a decent grip.
secondly: you need a good stabilization system.this will give you better photos.
I own a fz3 and would suggest that it meets the above criteria.
it may be an older model but it is still a quality camera at a very good price.
digitalcamera-hq.com/digita...
from my point of view they do
another view
panasonic.com/consumer_elec... a experienced user you will know that the feel of a camera is personal.
there is no substitute for the hands-on experience.
To check the camera, take out the memory card, close the battery cover and turn it on. It should allow you to take pictures or read the pictures taken inside the built in memory.
Coming to the pictures in the DCIM folder, you can do a simple file recovery to copy them to the computer.
I used to recommend Zero Assumption for recovering photos from memory cards. It is very straight forward, and there is even a tutorial to guide you if you need one. go to <a href="z-a-recovery.com/">... site</a> for the software and tutorial.
If you like to try something else, log on to <a href="morashik.com/recover-photos... site</a> and follow the instructions to get your pictures back.
If you definitely can't retrieve any pictures, I suggest delete the folder. When you take pictures with the same memory card, the camera automatically stores them in a new file.
NB: Have you checked that there is no new file like "###_PANA" or "###Media" that could have your pictures in it?
and no picture is taken. I am using the Oxyride batteries that came with the
camera, so there is plenty of power. I've had the DMC-LZ3 two days. What
am I doing wrong? The flash is set to A (auto), but the same thing occurs on
all the other flash settings.
An experiment would be to see if the camera indicates it is focus locked on the subject when the flash is not firing. Usually, the camera will not fire the flash unless it can focus.
If the light is lower, experiment by putting a bit more light on the subject and see if this improves the flash performance.
If not, it may be a defect in the flash, but it sounds like it is trying to work but just can't lock onto what you are trying to shoot.
Hope this helps.
My LZ3 is working now. I suspect the authritus in my right forefinger is the
culprit. The button to take the picture is extremely hard to push all the way
down. My wife had no problem with it. I do appreciate knowing about the
"focus assist beam" about which I had not read. I'll try and find it in the user
manual. Thanks....
To date stamp the pictures, go to this site and download Magitime :
keronsoft.com/magitime.html... and run the software will give you a screen with 2 columns. On the left column, click the plus sign to select the pictures to be date stamped.
The picture will be enlarged on the right column with date on it.
Move this date to a suitable corner and click " run ". It will save the date stamped picture to the hard disk. When you have finished with all of them, take these pictures to the shop and it will be printed with dates.
#1 Download the software you referred me to
#2 Download the pics to my computer
#3 Take a CD of the pics to the print shop.
Is it always this difficult??? 1st digital camera and I'm thinking it may be more trouble than it's worth.
I do appreciate you taking the time to answer my question. Panasonic after 3 phone calls has been no help. Wal-Mart, Wal-Greens and CVS had no clue and I had plans to go back to Circuit City. I'll give this a try first. :) As I said earlier, the quality of the pics are great, I'd just like to get all I paid for!!
go to play on dial
press menu
select dp of print
make selection
make sure the shop uses dp of print protocol or pictbridge
The LZ3 has a 2,8 f on the lens, which is preety nice, so you will be able to take pics at ISO 200, at about 1/60 in insides. It's not bad for a point & shoot camera, but if you need something like 1/100... you will have to raise the ISO to 400.
The pics of this camera are great, so don't be afraidl for ISO's up to 400.
Hope to be helpfull,
Alan.
In some cameras, you can take pics in a mode, that it record it twice, but with different compression, or without it. Never heard if Panasonic did it, but, look at the image sizes, and you will know if's that.
Look into the manual to take that mode out.
Hope it is helpful,
Alan.
Dave
When you say "electrified" is their hair coming out too bright, or burnt looking? I'd make sure the camera is on auto settings and try to take a photo. If this doesn't work, you might play around with the ISO settings. If their hair looks too bright, set the ISO number lower. If it is too dark, set it a notch higher. Please come back and let me know what works for you.
Andrew
Cathy
Anyway, the Panasonic has some nice features for the money, particularly the IS (image stabilization). And the 6x optical zoom is great too, and the 2 inch LCD beats out the 1.8 incher on the Canon.
Drawbacks are plenty, though on the LZ3: The 'noise' of the photos can be excessive, there is no optical viewfinder, it weighs 8 oz., and THE MOVIE MODE HAS NO SOUND. Also if you want creative control, the manual mode on the LZ3 is poor. The Canon gives you full manual control, (if that's what you like) over the shutter speed, the f-stop, the ISO, the manual focus, the flash intensity, etc. The A530 weighs only 5.9 oz.
I would go with the A530, or even the A540 (just a bit more moolah).
Rich
But you are right the Canon is a little higher that the Panasonic LZ3 because it has a lot maore features, but also the Panasonic have a better Optical zoom and have an image stablizer and a bigger LCD.
6X zoom. But I've already found that in bright outdoor light the view-
finder (as on the Canon) would be helpful. The LCD screen is useless.
If you are going to use the disposable batteries, read PC World's review
about the Panasonic Oxyride batteries that come with the LZ3. It will be
helpful. The Oxyride is not available in the US until this summer, except
by mail order. Google "Gigaweb" for the best price. I like both cameras.
Check out the excellent user reviews on the link above!
Good Luck
You can see sample image galleries from each camera below:
L3 ( steves-digicams.com/2006_re... )
LZ3 ( steves-digicams.com/2006_re... )
Both cameras are rated moderately well by users/pro reviewers. They both have issues with build quality (they are very cheap cameras, after all) and with image quality. The Panasonic does fairly well outdoors in good light, but once you move indoors and the camera's auto mode bumps the ISO setting up, the image noise really starts to flood the picture. But check the shots for yourself and see what you think.
Good luck!
If you have children focused at say, 8 feet away, AND you keep the F-opening small (meaning a larger number), then the 'field of focus' or 'depth of field' might be between 5 and 15 feet, and this upper limit perhaps being infinity (with a really small F-opening). So that is one way to photograph kids.
You need a camera that can be set for 'fully manual' mode. The Canon Powershot line does that (and there are many others that do as well) ---I'm just most familiar with the Powershot cameras. The beauty of digital is, you can experiment with different settings on a camera, and it doesn't cost you a fortune (like the old days, a dollar a print).
Rich
panasonic.com
case you have difficulties, this is the short cut :
service.us.panasonic.com/OP...
The LZ3 is indeed an incredible value. However, it is inferior to the A710 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ) in several ways, which I'll try to detail here.
1. Build quality. Many users of the LZ3 have reported issues with cameras simply failing after a few months. This will happen at least once in a while with any brand and any model--it's just the nature of delicate electronics--but the reviews section for the LZ3 here at DCHQ seems to indicate that it might be something of a trend.
2. LCD. The Canon has a 2.5" 115,000 pixel screen, while the LZ3 has a 2" 85,000 pixel screen, which is really quite poor for a camera these days.
3. Image noise, particularly in low light. The LZ3 has trouble with any ISO setting above 100, while the Canon fares significantly better. Pretty much any non-SLR digital is going to have issues with low light shooting, but Panasonic has unfortunately acquired something of a reputation for particularly poor noise levels.
4. Movie mode. The LZ3 doesn't offer audio recording in movie mode, which is going to be a serious showstopper for some people. The A710, on the other hand, includes a market-leading video mode--I personally own the S2 IS, which uses the same video mode, and I can guarantee you that it's fantastic.
This is not to say that the LZ3 isn't a good camera. It is, and it's incredibly feature-packed, especially for its price. The A710 IS is most definitely a better camera, but it's up to you to decide if it's worth the jump in price.
Good luck!
Surprisingly, given its low price and the fact that Polaroid haven't exactly made a big splash in the digital camera business, many users seem to love this camera. However, when they say it's great, that statement is usually accompanied by a "for the price". You can see many such reviews here ( circuitcity.com/ssm/Custome... ).
Personally, I'd save up a bit more to get into the $150-200 range and go for a Fuji F650 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ) or a Panasonic LZ3 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ), as they're much more full-featured cameras at not that much higher of a price. For the extra $$$ you get optical zoom, manual control over settings like shutter speed and aperture, and all around better build quality.
That said, if you just want to point and shoot and you don't care about the extra bells & whistles, the Polaroid might meet your needs. Just remember that in digital cameras as in most things, you tend to get what you pay for.
Good luck!
You can get the S500 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... )'s manual here ( esupport.sony.com/US/perl/m... ).
Good luck!
What you're looking for is a camera with an Image Stabilization system (IS). Some companies also refer to this technology as VR (for "vibration reduction"). Typically this is accomplished either by gyroscopes that move the lens to compensate for movement by your hand, or by a mechanism that moves the imaging sensor (aka the CCD).
Some of the best long zoom cameras with IS systems are:
Canon's S2 IS ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ) and S3 IS ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... )
Panasonic's FZ7 and FZ50 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... )
Sony's H5 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... )
Kodak's P712 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... )
All of these have 10x or 12x optical zooms paired with very good Image Stabilization systems.
To your definition questions: a "megapixel" is a million pixels (the tiny dots which digital photos are made up of), so the more megapixels, the larger the image on your screen and the larger you can print those images; a "SLR" is a single lens reflex camera--you can recognize them primarily by the fact that they have removable lenses and by their huge price tags--they range from serious amateur to pro equipment; the letters after model names are pretty arbitrary, but sometimes (as in the case of the S2 IS and S3 IS) they mean something... it's pretty hard to tell sometimes.
Hope this helps!
Of these I'd recommend the SD600 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ). It's got the best LCD, for one thing. For another, it's the smallest of the three (though they're all pretty similar in size). Finally, it has a better flash range than either of the other two, which is important when you're shooting in the dark or just in low-light situations (parties). Most importantly, though, Canon image quality is, in my experience, unmatched.
You should be aware that no ultracompact is going to be entirely blur-free, especially in low-light situations (unless you use flash all the time). Just a sad fact of the way digital cameras work.
Good luck!
Good luck finding any of those cameras under $250 in a retail store after you buy a memory card. Unfortunately cameras don't have enough internal memory now days to take more than a couple pictures, forcing buyers to purchase memory cards. A decent size card is going to cost about $50. Also, none of the cameras that you selected offer an image stabilizer. If you are taking photos in low light or want to reduce the likelihood of a blurred picture, this is a feature you are definitly looking for. All of the cameras that you selected are great, but for this I would recommend the Olympus FE-190. It is actually smaller than all of the cameras you mentioned, has a surprisingly large LCD, and has image stabilizer. In addition, this camera is only going to cost about $199 leaving you with pleanty of money to get a memory card and a case if you so desire.
The fact that neither you nor I can find any information about this camera probably means that it's not worth finding out about. When it comes to digital cameras, if you've never heard of the brand, that's probably because they're not worth hearing about. There are several low-end manufacturers producing very cheap digitals, but they're also very low quality and support for them is bound to be non-existent. You'd be much better off saving up a little more money and hitting up one of the lower-end cameras from a major brand. Say... the Panasonic LZ3 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ), the Panasonic LS2 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ), or the Fuji F650 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ). Good luck!
I looked up the JST name because I saw some in electronics stores in NYC when I was there last weekend.
Nice to see that I m not the only one having been ripped off in Broadway NYC. The worse is that I hesitated between a cheaper Sony and this *** of JST. I guess I got impressed by the slim black shape, large screen and the big letters saying 12 Megapixels. I was charged like 350 US, with memory cards. This camera takes OK pictures, BUT
1) The flash is too weak to take any pictures after 6 pm, and takes ages to charge back after each pictures
2) Has an 8X DIGITAL zoom, which is perfectly useless
3) Has softwares flaws, crashes sometimes
4) Doesn t adapt automatically to the light level, one has to do it MANUALLY, going through the menus !!!
5) My personal favourite: the colours and luminosity are different from what you see before taking the picture.
Regards
Ann Quinn
PS Would love to send you a photo of me but my JST digital camera is not working!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Writing to the Mayor of NYC sounds good....but if I may add the kind of experiences I have had with the likes of Bank of America (theres a $ million class action suit (for selling the personal info database of the bank customers) from California which the bank is trying to settle off-court), Hertz, Marriott, Travelocity and the numerous rip-off Internet sites that skim few $ off your account every month....then I guess writing to the President may be needed!! LOL
(dlt1116)
Who finally exchanged it for you? We have been calling and faxing and still getting the run around, I know hard to believe!
I filed a dispute with our credit card company but they gave no assurances.
It was interesting to see that they only have 1 complaint in the last 12 months to the BBB.
It is despicable that this is going on in our country...somebody know a lawyer out there???
JST, Advanced digital lens..ouch..$ 7500,00!Jennifer doran
My partner bought a laptop from the same store and has an unexplained debit for over $300 on his bank statement.
I'm not sure where we go from here but as so many of us have been ripped off ,there must be something we can do.
Thank you all!!!!
Its bad enough to be ropped but then but the credit card compnay as well as they have the merchant status to allow this to go on .. i will be taking this further and please spread teh news the more people subscribe to this thread and leave and email the better .. gong to the sotr tomrrow to sort it out ,, but dont what good its going to do ..
My tale follows the similar pattern to that of all the other threads, in that, I, for some reason purchased an inferior quality non branded product and SD cards for over 1300 dollars, this being a special offer to me because he liked me so much, incidentally he reduced the price from 2400 dollars obviously a very highly inflated price.
Having realised fairly quickly after purchasing, and then looking closer at the unit, it was clear I had been conned!.... I took advantage of going online in my hotel, and in doing so found this site, and my decision to take action immediately was based on the facts displayed in these threads.
I took the camcorder and SD cards back and requested a refund, but was told that refunds would not be given, only exchanges were possible. Bearing this in mind I went for the damage limitation option, and agreed to exchange the unit and cards for two branded items, both 2007 models. These, as with every other product in the shop were hugely overpriced and I had to negotiate carefully with them whilst liasing with a friend who had Internet access in England, this action was carried out in an attempt to recover my potential losses. Even though I paid over the top for both items, the alternative was to potentially lose everything!
I can only conclude by saying that nobody should venture anywhere near these outlets, if you do, be prepared to be lied to and cheated. Don't ask advice because they will tell you absolutely anything to get a sale, infact they will tell you the the inferior product which has a bigger profit for them, is far better than the superior product just so they can make the con even better for themselves. Better still don't even look in their windows, walk straight by..
This company and few others in New York are taking full advantage of tourists and preying on their vulnerability and should be reported, as I shall be doing in the very near future with the NYC BBB.
Hi Ann,
sorry you fell into the same pit, could you please advise, what is--NYC BBB. and I for one will follow the same route, as should all the posters in this thread.
good luck
I'm on the same situation......i buy a video camera on this shop....they tell me the price (1400,00$)and then my refuse...they ask me if it's good 900$.....
and so....i buy this......
but now i see on web site that the rates of this camera is 240$.......
what can i do????????????
i payed with credit card......
help me
I also purchased this JST-712 and cannot get this to down load to my computer
cannot locate company will also have to go to the BBB if I do not get help
HI, i am sorry to disappoint you guys but luckily i had a pleasant sale in one of those stores, somehow i was treated well and got what i wanted for a fair price.
I hope all of you guys can settle your problems amicably with your salespeople.
Good luck
Have purchased JST DVC 712 canot get store to help with information. Problem is cannot get zoom to focus properly, video pictures are blurry as wellas still pictures. also cannot get vedio from camcorder to computer
can any one help with the above problems
Can anyone help as to what we do re: jst712 camcorder that is not operating
I guess they saw us coming. We get no help from store in la where we purchased
So next step wrote to Fla. BBB waiting for ans. in the mean time can any one help
unfortunately you have been ripped off, just like the rest of us, if you are in the place that you bought the camera go back in and create a noise and copy these notes and take them with you I was fortunate and nagged the CC company and the refunded half of my payment = £300. try thr financvialombudsman if you are uk based tho,
I went to this store with my family to buy post cards. A clerk called Gino pick me up and started to pursue me buying a radar detector. I said no but he insisted looking at the device. He lied all the details (undetectable, battery operated etc) and began to show the price instead and reducing it. From 799 he went to 599 and quite quickly to 499. I still said no and he went away. The other clerk whispered to me that this was a very good price. Gino came back and said, ok, as you are the first customer of today, I'll give it for 399 and the rest of the goods (a very over priced 137 Lumix camera battery, a t-shirt and the 20 postcards) for free.
As being experienced traveler (+40 countries) and never cheated before in even very odd countries (like remote Russia, Kazakstan, MEXICO, Brazil etc.) and circumstances I really regret my tiredness (we just flew in the night before) and jetlag that I did not recognize the con.
After returning home I checked the price level in the internet and found out this KAT DLS315 would normally cost around 50!!! And as a climax I used the "detector" the first day at home and got caught by the police: fine for using the device 1600€! That is 2370...
I'm so pissed of to be frank. And it does not comfort me that I found numerous writings in the internet of similar happenings. (1st attempt from Google: newyork.citysearch.com/revi... )
Please shut down this shop immediately and start paying people their losses, if only you can. And arrest the personnel. I can confess.
All the prices at the shops' goods are twice to ten times more than appropriate and the clerks are lying. This is a shame for NYC. Such a shop at such a location!
Br, Andy
Ps. I wrote this to New York Post, NY DCA and others: nyc.gov/html/dca/html/home/...
Debbie and others should accept my sympathy bcos the cost of the camera is too much for someone to lose
If you take the memory card out your should be able to put into any computer sd card slot to down load and edit using existing free software . Re-charging can be done via a computer USB port .
if any one wants to cut and paste this for the NYBBB your more than welcome.
Good luck
let me know how i can contact you, you can have mine its no use to me at present the camera is shot
Where do we get information on JST?
Is there a .pdf on the use of camera, where can you get extra batteries, technical questions or troubleshooting, anyone????
If you're feeling unsure, there are quite a few other cameras in this same price range that you can consider, that we do have reviews on. The Panasonic Lumix DMC LZ3 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ) retails for $150.00 and is listed as our best camera under $200. It's got 5 megapixels, 6x zoom and is very simple to use with good image quality.
<a href="digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... is our list of lowest-priced digital cameras, if you want to browse the descriptions and reviews. Let me know if you have questions about another model!
The LZ3 takes SecureDigital memory cards, so yes, you can expand the memory from the built-in 14mb. In fact, you really have to if you want to have any kind of shooting capacity at all. The camera should work just fine with SD cards up to 2gb in size.
Good luck!
As simple point-and-shoot automatics, the Olympus FE-180 and the two Panasonics should be fine. I'd recommend seriously against the FE-170, as it's heavily inferior to its big brother and, honestly, a pretty terrible camera. The other three are competent, even good beginner digitals. However, if your husband wants to override manual settings he's going to run into trouble with these models. None of them offer very much manual control, which is common with cameras under $200.
I've done some research, and very few of the well-rated cameras in your price range offer full manual controls. The best of these is the Kodak EasyShare C875 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ), which offers several quasi-manual modes as well as a fully manual setting. It's got a 4.33/5.0 rating here at DCHQ and similarly positive reviews elsewhere around the 'net. It's retailing around $179 at places like Amazon.com. With a decent memory card, you should be able to just squeak in under $200 (or maybe a few dollars over).
Good luck!
The Panasonic Lumix LZ3 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ) is a nice pick for a very cheap digital camera that still produces good quality images (and, yes, will let you date/time stamp the images). It can be had for as low as $150 from the good retailers (Amazon, etc). Hope this helps. :)
Apologies, it seems I mistook the ability to print the photos with the date/time for the ability to stamp the photos with the date/time in-camera.
The LZ3 cannot do this--it can only give you the option to print the photos with the date. If you've already got a LZ3, you may be interested in knowing about ways to put a timestamp on the photos yourself.
You can:
(assuming you're working under Windows XP)
1. Get the pictures from your camera using My Computer (connect camera to computer via USB cable, open My Computer, select your camera from the list of devices, select the pics you want and drag them to the folder you want to put them in).
2. Right click on the image file and select properties. Click on the Summary tab. Click the Advanced button. The date and time the picture was taken will be listed there.
3. Use a photo editing program to add them to the picture.
There are also several programs that will do this for you (SnapTouch ( snaptouch.com ), for example).
As to other lower-cost cameras that will actually do this for you in-camera...
The Kodak EasyShare C743 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ) is a very cheap and very good camera that offers the ability to stamp the date/time on your photos in-camera (really! I swear I'm right this time!) in a variety of ways. It gets pretty good ratings from users and it got DCHQ's Editor's Choice award for best beginner digital camera.
we have always bought Ricoh cameras as we find they are the only brand that consistently have it.
I know for a fact these models have them as we have previously owneed them.
300g, R2, R3, R4, R40, R5, R6, R7, G4, GX & RR30
Ricoh is not a commonly found brand unfortunately.
hope this helps.
the TZ5 you have to have in view, tools, text stamp, single or multi, and more questions to answer.
My canon does it auto under certain settings I like it best for work related pictures requiring a date/time stamp.
Koday's EasyShare line are among the easiest-to-use cameras on the market today. Most of them offer very good image quality, solid automatic shooting modes, and, as I said, great ease of use. The EasyShare C743 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ), for example, earned DCHQ's Editor's Choice award for best beginner digital camera. It's got a great 7 megapixel sensor, lots of features tailored to beginners (in-camera red-eye reduction, photo touchups, etc), and intuitive controls. If I had to make a recommendation with no other qualifications than ease of use, it's the one I'd make. Good luck!
I'm not saying Joe's vote isn't a great one- just offering another option for you to check out. =)
The C530 has one big advantage over the other cameras you've mentioned, and that is that it's very, very cheap. The reason it's so cheap, however, is that it cuts big corners in certain areas. The biggest is its lack of an optical zoom lens, which severely cuts down on the kinds of shots you can take. You'll essentially be limited to the same kind of shots you'd get out of a disposable film camera. Given that it's so cheap, I wouldn't expect much from its image quality, either. On the other side of the coin, it's very easy to use and doesn't have much to distract you from the business of just snapping shots.
Personally, I'd suggest going toward something with a little more versatility--that way you won't find yourself frustrated with the C530's limitations in a few months and spending even more on a replacement. The C743 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ) would be a good bump up in terms of features (7.1 megapixels, a 3x optical zoom, and a much bigger LCD display) for only about $50 more (it's at $150 at Amazon.com right now). We at DCHQ have given it our Editor's Choice Award for Best Digital Camera for Beginners, and users seem to agree.
Also, if you don't mind looking outside of the Kodak line, I'd recommend the Panasonic Lumix LZ3 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ), which got our award for Best Camera Under $200 (currently also around $150). It includes optical image stabilization, a 6x optical zoom, and 5 megapixels. Users seem to love it.
Hope this helps!
Panasonic has a very solid reputation in digital cameras. Their FZ series, for example, compete with the best from Canon and Sony in the stabilized ultrazoom category.
The LZ3 is a fine camera, and as you can see it's gotten the award for best camera under $200 from DCHQ. Users rate it high for its ease of use as well as its great features and extremely reasonable price. It's probably one of the best starter digitals you could buy.
Good luck!
<a href="panasonic.co.jp/pavc/global... a sample gallery; typically these can be touched up of course, but I've seen this camera in person too and think the image quality shown here is pretty dependable in terms of what it really does.
It takes AA batteries; I would buy NiMH rechargeables with a separate charger. I think there is an AC adaptor available.
There are lots of different kinds of cameras that fit into your price range. I can help you narrow them down, but first I need you to answer a few questions.
1. How will you be using the camera? Are you mainly a point-and-shoot photographer, or do you enjoy messing with manual settings and taking photos for their own sake?
2. Does size matter to you? Do you need a camera that can fit easily into your pocket or are you okay with carrying it in a bag?
3. Are there any features you really want? High megapixels? Long zoom? Image stabilization? Any of these will help me narrow it down.
Thanks!
This camera is a great choice. You might try using the DCHQ Digital Camera Gift Guide ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ). You can pick cameras based on lifestyle, skill level, and price range. The cameras in your price range ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ) are also a good place to start. You should really ask what you want to use the camera for before you buy one as well. Will this be for parties and social functions, do you want to take landscape shots, or something completely different? These are all things to take into consideration. Good luck and happy shooting.
Andrew
As Andrew said, the LZ3 is a great choice. If you want to spend a little more, the Canon A630 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ) and A640 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ) are also very good cameras, as is the A710 IS ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ), which features a stabilized 6x zoom.
The A640 is at the higher end of your price range, but it's got almost a perfect 5-star rating here on DCHQ and I always feel comfortable recommending Canon's A-Series. They're simple to use but extremely powerful, and feature tons of manual options for someone who wants to get a little more serious about their art.
None of these are small enough to fit completely comfortably in your pocket, but they're a bit smaller than the size of your (my) open palm and would definitely fit into a jacket pocket or a purse without much trouble.
Hope this helps. Good luck!
For price, features, modes, user controls, range, macro, accessories, quality, etc, - look no further.
As for megapixels, my friend who is a pro photographer for over 26 years (used to shoot for National Geographic) said, and this is a quote, "Unless you are shooting for a magazine and the picture is going to be on a 30 foot by 50 foot billboard, there is no reason to get more than 8 MP's". Of course he has a 10 MP 20D, but that's how he eats!
So, as far as I am concerned, this is the last camera I will ever own. I also got a 5 year warranty from Repair Tech for about $45. So, at least until the year 2012, I will have a kick-ass camera. (In fact, a few of my pictures have already been approved for sale on a stock photo site).
You're a nice aunt! The A530 is a fine camera, with essential features and a solid reputation. The Panasonic Lumix DMC-LZ3 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ) has one feature that makes it cool -- a longer zoom, and it's a little smaller than the A530. But it's a bit more expensive. Also consider theKodak Easyshare C533 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ) which is well liked by users.
Maybe someone else can buy some rechargeable AA batteries and a SD memory card which she'll probably need to make the camera more useful, but I would say you have set a high bar for other aunts/uncles by giving such a nice gift! Lucky niece!
Your own idea of the Powershot A530 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ) gets two thumbs up from me. I always direct 'newbies' to the Powershots (or the Kodak Easyshares) because they are ridiculously easy to use, and they really do produce quality images. I own a Powershot A series camera myself and it has never let me down. The menus are simple, the camera body is durable and easy to hold, and the options give you just enough control- there are lots of fun settings like Portrait or Landscape, or you can choose Manual exposure and learn the settings yourself, or just put it in Auto and click away.
Also, in terms of buying for a young photographer I think buying a Canon is a great idea since they make good stuff and if she gets used to them early on, she'll be able to choose wisely later on when she wants the really fancy stuff. =)
The reason I ask is there are two possibilities, here: 1) People are misusing their cameras and are ignorant of its features or 2) the flash really is inadequate. One is a problem that can be overcome through proper use. The other is a problem that suggest: "Don't buy this camera."
I consider this particular camera to have an inadequate flash. That's of course just my opinion.
Two ways to look at it- one is that in the right hands, this camera can take good pictures. But the thing is, if you have to make adjustments to compensate for a weak flash and the settings are not user friendly as they are, sure, if you know how to adjust them you can fix the problem, but why spend your time doing that if you don't have to? Even good photographers sometimes like to just point and shoot, and in my opinion this camera doesn't do a very good job with that.
Many thanks to you both for your thoughts and wisdoms. You've helped me a lot.
Most gratefully,
jeff kim - sacramento, california
p.s. Anybody got any suggestions for a good, cheap DC that cost around 120.00?
What you really want to ask yourself is what you want to use the camera for. You might want to check out DCHQ's <a href="digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... Camera Gift Guide</a> to see what camera fits your lifestyle the best.
The camera you have listed above is a good starter camera at 5 megapixels for good photos and prints easily up to 8x10. The 6x optical zoom will give you decent zoom qualities. If you want to shoot in lower light settings, the max ISO setting of 400 might be a little low (try a 800 or 1600). Another thing to watch out for is the need for AA batteries. Regular alkalines can wear out quickly. If you do choose this camera, I would recommend getting some rechargeable Ni-MH or lithium ion AA batteries so they will last longer. Good luck and happy shooting.
Andrew
There is a camera around $215 that should suit your needs just fine. The Panasonic FX01 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ) rates highly and gets good comments on shutter lag and power up time. It even has a nice wide angle lens for good family shots and landscape shots. It also comes in with 6 megapixels, making the resolution good enough to print photos easily up to 8x10's. Its ability to go up to ISO 1600 also makes it good for lower light settings. Good luck and happy shooting.
Andrew
The Nikon d50 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ) is the camera that I would recommend. It is affordable for the style and it has all the features you need. Plus it is very highly reviewed. Very popular camera, a real work horse.
Good Luck,
Hope I helped.
A zoom would be nice.
Andrew
I noticed you haven't marked a Best Answer... are you still looking for help? If so, I recommend re-submitting your question at digitalcamera-hq.com so it has a better chance of being noticed. Lately questions are being answered within just one or two days. Good luck!
THANKS
The Panasonic's image stablization is a feature that will be very helpful and it alone is the reason to get the camera over the Kodak.
You have a couple of options.
The LZ3 uses an USB cable. You can get this at any electronics store or on-line. If you are not familiar with the cable, you may be better off taking your camera to the store with you and asking for a USB cable.
A second alternative is to pop the SD/MMC card out of the camera and insert it into the smart card reader many PC have.
This is a very inexpensive cable.
Andrew
Digital stabilzation is when the camera uses software to compensate for camera shake, by speeding up the ISO, which degrades the quality of the resulting photo.
All information was taken from thsi link: digitalcamera-hq.com/digita...
The Sony H5 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ) excellent zoom and advanced picture quality.
The Panasonic Lz3 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ) which has amazing features for an affordable price.
and The Kodak v610 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ) which truely is FULLY LOADED.
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With that said, since I don't have any specific advice for you, I went to a few sites whose reviews I usually trust, and found their takes on this particular camera:
<a href="asia.cnet.com/reviews/digit... One</a>
<a href="dcresource.com/reviews/came... Two</a>
Hope that helps.
Two options - 1) Google's <a href="picasa.google.com/">... 2</a>. It's FREE! 2) <a href="adobe.com/products/photosho... Photoshop Elements</a> for more advanced work. About $90.
AS for transferring, get a memory card reader and plug your cards into it. Windows will recongnize it as a drive and then it's a simple matter of dragging from one and dropping to another. Best, and easiest, way.
You might try the Canon SD900 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ), the Fuji F20 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ), or the Panasonic FX07 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ). All have an ISO setting of 1600 for lower light settings. They are all 6.3 megapixels and up and have over 3x optical zoom.
Andrew
Thanks
Matt
I noticed you haven't marked a "Best Answer"... are you still in need of help? If so, I recommend re-submitting your question at digitalcamera-hq.com so it has a better chance of being noticed. Lately questions are being answered within just a day or two. Good luck!
Andrew
i am from north of lebanon(tripolie).and i want to now the price please.thanks
Hope that helps!
although i can not say for sure if they ship where you live, i have used them many times for various items and have had no problems at all
I really don't know if you can get excellent digital photos in low light on a camera for under $100. If I were you, I would up my price range just a little and check out the Lumix DMC LZ3 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ). Your low light shots won't necessarily be perfect, as it sometimes takes a pretty complicated/ expensive camera to get good shots in low light. But compared to comparable cameras this one has great all-around performance and I think you'd be pleased with the photos.
Quickly take good picture
Make some movies (good quality)
I read reviews and I am totally confused. Price max is about 250$
If you need more details I will provide but tell me please what is advantage with each model.
Please, please...
I have to make purchase before this weekend.
Unless you are planning to take pictures that you enlarge to poster size, 5 megapixels is probably plenty, so save a few dollars and buy the Panasonic LZ3 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ).
reviews.cnet.com/Panasonic_... site rated it as the best digital camera under $200. I am trying to make an informed decision. This would be my first digital camera. Why the discrepancies in the ratings?
My instinct is to say, choose megapixels over mega-zoom, because with enough megapixels you can always crop and blow up the picture later and create the same effect as a long zoom- without losing image quality like you would with a low-megapixel, long-zoom camera.
The thing is, people fall for megapixel-cramming all the time. The truth is that megapixels are amazingly cheap and easy to add to a camera, and with a high megapixel count someone out there will buy it. But chances are really, really good that the rest of the camera is junk.
I'm speaking from experience... I knew someone once who bought an off-brand digital and the thing ate up four packs of batteries in one day, then died for good. I'd buy a 4 megapixel Canon for around the same price if I were you. Trust me, it will be much better.
<a href="avforums.com/forums/showthr... a debate on this exact issue... sort of interesting. Even the same camera you mentioned.
If you need help choosing a camera, let me know. I can point you in a good direction depending on what kind of features you're looking for. And in the meantime, I suggest the Panasonic Lumix DMC-LZ3 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ). Amazing camera for really cheap.
With the various color settings, light settings and a fairly decent optical zoom, it is a good camera and VERY easy to learn to operate. I sat down with her last night and in twenty minutes, she could use the settings, upload the pictures and do all the other stuff like delete pictures from the camera that were no good and use the self-timer. It is a good 'first' camera for her situation.
The company support phone number is 1-800-270-5071. I called with two questions. Is the lens plastic or glass? Which battery should I use? The lens is glass and probably a vivitar lens. The batteries they recommend is either Panasonic, SanDisk or Fuji. It is a 1050mAh 3.7v DC rechargable battery. I could write more but I think you have the idea. This a great little camera at a very good price. The camera is still in the box. I am taking my time reading the 91 page manual that comes with the camera.
I noticed on the packaging box that the camera accepts a 2gb SD card. In the manual it states 1gb. I called the customer service and I was told that the manual was published too late to change the information. The DC 8600 does accept a 2gb SD card as the box states. It's great that you received a discount. That was my intention but the Aldi store near me solded out the 7 they had for the Christmas season. The person at customer service I spoke with recommends a Sandisk, Toshiba or Panasonic brand you are going to use a 2gb SD card. Once again, I think the 3 year warrenty speaks for the quality of the camera and the company that makes the item.
It is a great camera, 2.8 LCD screen and best of all Macro & Super Macro facility. I won't consider buying a camera unless it has a Macro feature as I take a lot of close-up flower shots. I have had great results with this 8.1 MP. No problems at all with the camera itself - however I have 1 extra lithium battery that we got from Aldi plus the 2 that came with it but 2 of the 3 after having charged them ok ( I thought) aren't working. I have just put the 3rd previously working one on charge but don't know if it will take the charge, so whether the charger is faulty or not I'm not sure until it comes off charge. I am searching the web for a spare replacement rechargeable lithium-ion battery but can't find the correct one - does anyone out there know where/who I can buy one from please ? If & when Aldi's have them in stock they are about 50 euro here in Ireland, I am trying to find a cheaper one.
(Located one - See below)
I would not swop this DC8600 camera - only to update to more MP's if they do one in future. Also - does anyone out there know how to get the video-clips onto the computer please ? I am not very technical.
I highly recommend this camera, it's great !
Some news which may be helpful to others out there - After a frustrating, fruitless search on the web for batteries and getting no-where I have found out today (17th April) that my batteries have not died completely. The battery charger is faulty. My husband obtained a different Tel. No. for Traveler support from Aldi's here in Cork, Ireland. I rang the support No. and was told to charge the battery IN the camera using the charger lead (AC Power adapter - Page 24 in Manual). I didn't know the battery could be charged in the camera. Page 24 says the LED light flashes green when charging and lights green (steady) when it's completed.
So hey-presto - my battery IS flashing so it's not dead after all. The support line lady was very helpful and said if I tried this way first it would prove if the charger was faulty or not. It is the charger and she said to phone them again if it was not working and they would send me a replacement. So for anyone who needs another support No. to ring it is (00) 800 78772368.
I am delighted that it's the charger and not the bats as now it is on charge ok it will be ready before some tree paeony buds open so I will be in business again as usual getting close-up and personal with some flowers.
So don't throw away your batteries until you have tried charging them IN the camera first before you give up. Hope this was helpful.
Bit more news - Yesterday evening I rang the 1800 2705071 support line and was advised that the Acer Model No. CR-8530 is the correct battery for the DC8600 from www.star-battery.com @ $14.98 but it was 1100mAh not 1050mAh so not sure if this one will do.
Guy in a camera shop today said it wouldn't make much difference the extra bit of power.
Evening 17th - Just taken it off charge via the AC Power adapter with bat IN camera and it works !
Sorry this info is rather long but want to share what I have learned in last few days.
I can only guess at what some of the words mean
"The camera is my good? .... only 60 dollars ?
The camera has a lot of features you only find on expensive Nikon, Canon, etc., such as aperture/shutter priority, manual focus, backlight correction and so forth.
I would recommend it to anybody.
I lost the charger while on holiday and I can't find one anywhere on the net for it? 5 volt 3 amp, nothing out there with the right plug. Any ideas?
Did you read my info above re my faulty charger ? I rang the support line and the lady was very helpful and said she would send me a new charger. I am still waiting to receive this
after 3-4 weeks so perhaps she got my address wrong or maybe it's still on it's way
so why don't you give them a ring and see if they will send you out a new one. They may send it out free or for a small fee - it would be worth trying. Meanwhile try charging the batteries IN the camera on the docking station that came with the kit with the power cable which you use with the charger.
Hope this solves your problem until you get a new charger. All the best - Rosemary, Ireland.
The two support line No's are
00 800 78772368 and 1800 270 5071.
after making my first photo's on holiday I wanted to transfer them on to my computer.
after connecting the camera to the computer the USB screen appears correctly, but after pressing the SET-button nothing happens! my computer doesn't recognize the camera (windows xp). there's nothing under 'removable disk'. so I am not able to transfer the photo's I've made.
Is there anyone who can give me a solution?
Take care
After waiting weeks to receive a replacement charger for Traveler DC8600 which never arrived (perhaps the lady got my address wrong) imagine my surprise when on Thursday 28th June 07 Aldi's had an upgrade 10.1MP Traveler at an unbelievably far lower price (€199.99) (£134.49) than the DC8600. (€279.99) I bought one and was going to give my daughter the DC8600 and try again to get replacement charger for it, however as the DC8600 was still under guarantee my husband took it back 5 days later. Fortunately they had 1 DC-XZ6 left so he got a refund and bought it.
The faulty charger proved to be a blessing in disguise. Can things get any better ? Upgrade on pixels and much lower price.
Also Aldi's had 2GB SD cards on sale that day for €16.99 (£11.42) approx.
What a great deal - well done Traveler,
I am so pleased. They now have the support line Tel. No's on the box - very helpful.
Currently I have a 3 megapixel Kodak from several years back, which I got for free when changing my energy provider. It's a nice camera with a quite good picture quality, but it has no zoom, no macro, videos without sound at a low frame rate and low resolution.
I have also looked at low cost camera's from Kodak and Samsung, but they usully lack some of my requirements (BTW. I don't care much about zoom...).
In the analog era I had a SLR with several lenses, but I think that digital SLR is kitsch. The benefits are smaller than the disadvantages. (Except for professionals perhaps.)
I bought the camera this afternoon at about 15:30 (local time) and have been playing with it, since I came home. It's a really amazing camera and so much better than the old (2001?) Kodak CX7310 that I'm used to. It also exceeds my expectations on all apects that I was looking for (and a lot that I was not looking for).
The picture quality is very good (as others already proved in the thread on the other forum site) and the macro capabilities are also amazing! The video quality is also very good (640x480 at 30 frames per second with sound!) and you can zoom during filming, although it upsets the auto-focus so it starts readjusting, but serious filmers almost never zoom...
(Btw. I have been checking the stats of similar Kodak and Samsung cameras and they never are as good.)
Thanks Ollie for your encouragement! I'm familiar with the Aldi problem of having too few items per shop on the famous wednesday morning (I also lined up outside a Aldi once before opening at 8:30), but in this case they have plenty of stock. I estimate that they still had about 250 cameras left today, which is not much less than yesterday, but perhaps they also have some stock in the back and fill up the stock in the store from time to time. I also didn't see many customers buy a camera, so sales aren't going that fast.
I disagree that Aldi only sells high quality products. I haven't bought earlier Aldi's Traveler camera's because of bad reviews on the WWW. But in general a store chain that sells one-off products that it's not specialized in will try only to sell good stuff because it doesn't want complaints.
But anyway this camera is so good that instead of giving my old Kodak to my mother permanently I suggested that she should buy a Traveler DC8600 too. Impressed by the photos I showed on her and my TV and the movie I showed on mine she is now seriously considering buying one too.
I have put some photos and a video here:
xs4all.nl/~ganswijk/travele... the material is made without a tripod and my hands have become less steady over the years. The picture of my mother was done with flash. The macro picture of my keyboard was done with an about 9 watt energy saving bureau lamp from the left (yes, I don't clean my keyboard often enough ;-) and the movie was shot quite late in the day and using the 220V to 5V converter as power source because the battery gave up after all of my experiments. Still amazing how much power the accu still had after being in the package for probably several months!
As Ollie I now have to go study the manual in details to get to know every aspect of this amazing camera!
I wonder if my mother will do the same should she buy one. As most women she tends to only use the automatic setting of cameras...
DC-XZ6 10.1 megapixel digital camera. I'm wondering if this model is basically
the same as the DC-8600 but with added megapixels, or simply a better
upgrade. If anybody has tested this new model out, could you please let
me know of the overall quality of the camera. Phil
I get excellent results with this camera, I don't have any complaints about it at all. It's like my right arm, I wouldn't be without it.
I usually photograph flowers and the camera records amazing detail when you view photos on computer.
If it's still available snap it up quickly before someone else does, it is very good quality, I'm sure you will be very pleased with it.
Aldi have another Traveler camera on offer this week (11th Nov) but it's only 7MP @ €119.00. Comes with 512MB SD card,
2 batteries/charger etc.
All the best - Rosemary, Ireland.
SO I HAVE PICTURES WITH A BLACK STRIPE
I WISH TO LET IT REPAIRED BECAUSE ITS STILL IN WARANTY BUT I DON4T NOW WHAT TO DO CAN ANYBODY HELP PLEASE
CHARLOTTE STEYAERT
Go back to Aldi's with your receipt and tell them the problem you are having with your DC8600. Ask them if they will contact the Traveler Support Line for you as the camera is faulty and they sold it to you (under your consumer rights).
They may just want to give you your money back and not a replacement if they haven't got one in stock.
Alternatively you can ring the Traveler Support Line ( I gave two numbers above) which are 00 800 78772368 or 1800 270 5071
the first number is to ring from Ireland but if either of these No' are no good, go online to their website
www.traveler-service.com or ask Aldi's to provide the correct telephone No. + codes for your country.
Or, ask for your money back from Aldi and wait until they have another upgrade Traveler camera.
See my entry above of Friday July 20th - I had the DC8600 and upgraded to the DC-XZ6 which is a 10.1 mega pixel camera.
Hope this will prove useful to you and you get the problem sorted out.
my question is my digital camera 9 months old and i don't now where i have to send it for repair the lens doesn't open whole so i have pic; with a black stripe
can someone help me with that
charlotte tkhs
To find out where to send your Traveler DC8600 for repair,
Their is a USA number which is 1-800-270-5071. Their is also
an international number which is 01 1800 7877 2368. The
internet support address is www.traveler-service.com
I've been real impressed with rhe traveler digital cameras.
Great prices too. I'm getting ready to purchase the new
10.1 megapixel model. Good luck Phil
cheers
nat
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Some months ago I bought an LCD screen hood from 7-Day Shop UK which is made from black material and velcro and sticky tape which fits over screen like an open box to shade it from sunlight but it's not very good. There is another brand of camera (A Fuji I think) which has an integral metal hood which one can open and I wish Traveler would do something like this. It may be worth writing to them and ask if they can manufacture a metal hood to fit their cameras, then the camera would be perfect.
All the best - Rosemary.
Viewfinder-less cameras have been around for quite a while now so you would think the penny would have dropped by now in the R&D departments of camera manufacturers.
Then again ... probably not. Expect they're all blokes.
Which leaves me with the quandary about buying or not an Aldi Traveler DC-XZ6 this coming Thursday here in Oz. Cheers.
Why don't you buy the Traveler DC-XZ6 anyway although it doesn't have the desired viewfinder - if you don't get on with it you can always take it back for a refund. For the money I think it is an excellent camera and I've never had any problems with the camera itself. Let's hope Traveler are working on an integral pull out LCD hood for their next one.
I may very well contact them and put that suggestion to them.
Long may the sun shine on your LCD screen in OZ !
We don't get so much of it here in Ireland.
Cheers - Rosemary.
Interesting discovery on the US Aldi site ... goto aldi.us/index_ENU_HTML.htm. Under the menu heading "Special Purchases/Now available while stocks last", they are selling off the leftover cameras for $US200. Now that is only $AU220 or 135 Euro or 101 UK pounds. But they're selling it here tomorrow for $AU299!! So I'm thinking to take a gamble and they may drop the price here as well after the initial selling week has finished and they have leftover stock. I know they do this here as well from time to time. Anyway, as with most Aldi gear, if you miss the present model of something, simply wait a bit longer for the next updated you-beaut model to arrive.... probably with an LCD hood too ... haha
I could be wrong but my understanding is that Aldi prescribe the specifications they want in a product and they get someone to make it. So then that product is exclusive to Aldi and not available in that exact form anywhere else under a different badge. I know there are similar models available, but not necessarily exactly the same. So what I'm saying then is, probably requests to change specifications of a product, ie LCD hood, would have to be put to Aldi first, rather than the manufacturer.
Ireland eh. I was there all too briefly in 2002. The very morning I arrived on your shores at Dublin in my hire car, I inadvertently discovered a common practice of your school kids on their bicycles .... riding down the middle of the road where there is queued traffic. I had reason to do a quick u turn and yes ... you guessed it, collected a girl on her bike, she tore straight into the side of the car. Seems the Irish are made of pretty tuff stuff, she got up, regathered her composure, got back on her bike and was off like a shot, never to be seen again. Welcome to Ireland ... lol
So yes Rosemary, if you want sunshine and lovely beaches to photograph ... come on down! ... lol. Cheers. Ken
quite a few people get killed on the roads because they don't bother to wear any reflective gear, they think they are invincible.
I'd love to visit OZ, maybe one day, I could do with some sun and I could take scores of photos with my trusty Traveler camera.
Next time I go to Aldi I will ask them if it is so that they call the shots re the camera specs. - meanwhile I hope you pick up a bargain priced Traveler - happy snapping and thanks v. much for the info. I will now visit the website you posted.
All the best - Rosemary.
It's possible this camera is manufactured by a Taiwanese company called Premier Image, their camera brand name is Foxconn.
They have a "Power Zoom Series" of small footprint cameras, in particular the model .. Foxconn DS-A650. For more info, goto: premierimage.com.tw/product... . This seems to be the exact same camera.
For a test report of the Traveler DC-XZ6 camera, there is a german site that has a rough english test possibly worth a read, goto: 64.233.179.104/translate_c?... who really DOES manufacture this camera? Who knows. Maybe time will reveal all. Cheers. Ken
I think one would have to be a perfectionist to complain about this camera. I find it very good for the use I want to put it to and get great results. Thanks & bye for now.
Cheers. Ken
minox.com/index.php?id=206&... used to be the maker of specialty and "spy" cameras. Don't know how they stack up today in the digital world. Since this carries a different brand name, the actual specs may differ from the Minox version ... or maybe not. ;-)
Yes the Minox seems to be exactly the same camera and with a named MINOCTAR lens, whereas we don't really know the maker of the Traveler lens. The same? Of course, Aldi's version also has more accessories than what's available with the Minox, which makes the Traveler a more complete and workable package.
Rosemary, I went back to Aldi the other day to check availability and found they only had the display one left so I bought it there and then, worrying I'd miss out. So I'm trying it out and the more I delve into its capabilities, the more I'm impressed. Plus 3 years warranty and a 60 day trial return policy by Aldi aint half bad eh. Cheers. Ken
I only hope Charlotte Stayaert above sorted her camera problem out -
perhaps she will let us all know how it turned out for her.
Just looked at the Minox DC 1022 that Tom gave info on - at €329.00 I think I will stick with the Traveler brand. Hope you get some good shots with yours. It would be nice if we could post some of our photos on here so others can see what good results the Traveler gives then I could see your sand & surf pics (if you will be taking beach scenes) . I haven't had time yet to come to grips with all the different settings etc on mine.
If I did though the results would probably be a lot better. I'm thinking of the anti-shake feature and the sport setting - because I was in too much of a hurry to capture a moment (moving children) I didn't concentrate on focusing and many pics were out of focus so there is yet a lot to learn about it and try to remember all the available settings.
Anyway, happy snapping and bye for now. Hope you let us know what you think of your camera soon. - Rosemary
170 Euro eh. We was robbed here! .. lol. That's about $AU275. We paid $AU299.
Charlotte's camera problem. Has she lost the warranty doccos that came with the camera? I expect each country has a supplied phone link to a helpdesk. Failing that, romp up to the nearest Aldi and ask for assistance. If the camera has been damaged, hence not covered under warranty, then the warranty people would still fix it but at her cost.
Now Rosemary, I declare the R&K S.I.G. is now in session, please stop slouching and pay attention!! haha ... joking.
From what you are telling me, my first thought then was "practice makes perfect". You and I are going to have to put in to get the results we'd like with this compact camera. We can mess about with the settings all we like, but the most fundamental requirement to taking a sharp photo is keeping the camera as still as possible when the camera clicks. Also, getting it focused first (that's the push to halfway and stopping on the shutter button) is mandatory. Try taking a few photos without stopping halfway first and you'll see what I mean. So recapping, camera (and you) movement when the camera clicks gives you blurry pics, plus not allowing the camera to auto focus gives you out of focus pics. Now do those 2 naughty things together and you've got a dogs breakfast. I guess it comes down to figuring out what's comfortable for you to set yourself in a braced/balanced stance or lean against something fixed or use a tripod to get the fundamentals working in your favour. Practice, practice, practice is what's needed here during the learning curve stage. Think outside the square, ask questions etc.
Sport setting. Yes well just leaving the camera on auto for an action shot will give you blurry subject matter in the pic. That's not necessarily a bad thing, because at times, you may want to show the subject is moving, hence the blur. Otherwise, change the camera setting to SCN/sport. The other thing to try (using various settings) is to pan the camera during a shot ie., stay on the moving subject as you take the shot, then see the results ... see if the subject is in focus and with a blurred background. Just try it ok.
The other setting I haven't used yet is SCN/splash water. Must be different but it does suggest movement too.
Anti shake. Ok well let's try this together and see if we can see a difference. Try taking pics both ways, firstly in the usual way of auto or sport setting or whatever whilst improving technique of holding/keeping still the camera during the camera click. Then do the same but use anti-shake setting. Check the results both on the LCD and transfer to your PC to view on the monitor. Report back. Game on?
Showing pics. I've not mastered uploading pics to forums such as this so I don't know about that yet. In any event, it's early days yet, need to practice first to see about improved picture making techniques and getting results worth showing. Sure I can do beach shots, sand and surf here etc., just so long as you lot don't all emigrate here and clutter the place up ... haha. Heh Rosemary, I'm down to about 56 days left to practice before I decide whether or not to get a refund ... lol
Talking about the Li-ion battery for this camera, has anyone delved into trying to find a source for it?
So far, I can't find one worldwide online, nor could Aldi's helpdesk here in Oz for this camera. They've agreed to make enquiries and get back to me (don't hold my breath?). Let me be clear on this. There are batteries available that have lower mAh's ie, 1050 and 1100mAh, but NO 1250mAh batteries, 2 of which capacity came with the camera. Reason I'm persueing this is because I tend to agree the camera seems to be a tad power hungry, hence you could run out of power during a prolonged photography session. For your info, in case it's different to yours, the battery supplied here in Oz is Model no. DS8330-1 3.7volt 1250mAh Li-ion battery, Part no. 02491-0054-06, made in China. Go check for yourselves please, see if you can find a source/link for a 1250mAh battery that fits. I'd appreciate feedback.
Cheers.
Ken
The other thing to try re your camera problem, although it may not apply for a Li-ion type battery, is to fully discharge/recharge the battery several times, particularly when newish. Try it, won't hurt.
Also, dirty or inadequate contact continuity between the battery and the camera can cause a problem. Happens also in phones and MP3 players.
Sure the 8300 battery fits ... but it's less mAh capacity than what's supplied with the DC-XZ6 ... in Oz anyway. Not good enough IMHO. It'd be one of the lower capacity batteries mentioned in my post above.
As far as I can deduce from my online searching, NO ONE has a replacement 1250mAh battery listed for the Traveler DC-XZ6. Now if you can prove me wrong, I'd love to hear from you. Suppliers? ... HELP!! Cheers. Ken
Have you looked at putting your pictures on www.panoramio.com you can put the camera details olongside.
Reg
I may try posting some photos there when I have a bit more time to do it and if it's easy to do. Very helpful, thanks. Rosemary.
Even the Traveler website doesn't show them. I'll have to make a phone call to the helpline. It's nice to have a spare or two for emergencies.
Thanks for your advice which I will put into operation and see what results I get. I think the problem I had was that I just clunked the shutter down fully without doing the halfway focusing bit.
I love your sense of humour, you make me laugh. No, I won't be emigrating to Oz. Even though I'd like more sun I think Oz would be much too hot for me. My brother went there once and left after about 3 days because he couldn't stand the heat. Perhaps that was because he lives in much colder climes in Canada. If we can't clutter your beaches with our persons perhaps we can clutter up the Panorimio website kindly given by Reg with the stunning results of our Travelers (if I can manage it.)
I am a techniphobe - why do these technical buffs make things so complicated for ordinary mortals. Why can't all these gadgets be controlled by voice command. These days one has to have a mental library of all the abbreviations for so many gadgets, DVD-R or RW, CD-R or RW, MP3's etc. the list goes on and on.
I've only just learnt how to burn my video clips onto a disc.
We still can't set up our TV to record to HD or DVD and I just about manage to make a call on a mobile phone. I need a team of 5 year olds to get everything going.
Returning to the digital cameras - a few years back before I had one I took some photos using a roll film camera of my pet wild rabbit eating ice-cream.
I had about 15 rolls stuffed in the fridge because I couldn't afford to get them developed and gradually got them developed as and when hoping to see the rabbit photos. I went through the whole lot but no rabbit. I think the film must have come out of the spool and so I was taking nothing.
I lost precious unrepeatable shots because of that and the rabbit later died.
If I had had a digital camera at that time it wouldn't have happened.
I think that is one big advantage with digital, you can see instant results whether good or bad and know that you have your subject photographed.
Meanwhile I will try the Sport & Splash Water & Anti-shake modes and see what I get and let you know. All the best for now - Rosemary.
Hope we won't get chucked off the DA forum for being too lengthy.
Re Charlotte - The camera is under guarantee for 3 years so won't her till receipt still cover it as it sounds as if the camera was faulty and not because of any damage she did to it.
Have a look at www.watchbattery.co.uk they have a lot of camera batteries,it is a question of matching it up to the camera.
Reg.
Reg, I checked out www.watchbattery.co.uk but with no joy. Actually I found it a pretty difficult site to navigate and search ... seen much better user-friendlier sites than this one.
Well surprise surprise, a rep for the camera helpdesk rang me back last night, he tried to find a 1250mAh battery online while we were talking but with no joy either. Fancy that eh. Essentially what I gleaned from what he was telling me was that for the camera, their stance was that they are responsible to consumers for the camera and camera specific accessories, but not for "consumables", for example, the soft camera pouch and the battery. So they say if we need "consumables" for this camera, that's for us to find a suitable source in the marketplace, not them. So there you have it ladies and gentlemen, we're on our own. I guess an analogy would be that when you buy a new car, there is a vehicle warranty but not on tyres, battery, fanbelt etc etc. They are consumables, they wear out and have to be replaced by you the owner when needed.
I guess my gripe is that despite there being a known Chinese manufacturer of the 1250mAh battery that marketers/manufacturers have chosen to fit in this camera, the same people haven't bothered to go the extra step to ensure the battery can be sourced somewhere on this planet as a consumer replacement. Probably take one phone call to do that. How good are they eh?
On a brighter note, he did say that for the duration of the 3 year camera warranty, in the event you have a problem with any of the camera specific accessories, [possibly drop them, lose them, defective etc., [spin em a yarn etc.]), they will send you a free replacement.
Now here's something re the battery you may consider pursuing in UK ... a 1200mAh battery from dc-battery.co.uk/advanced_s... confusing thing about this though is that if you do a search on other camera battery source websites for this part number, they usually list its capacity as 1100mAh, NOT 1200mAh. Try this please and see what you come up with, also try an email enquiry to the dc-battery UK website and see if they will confirm that it is 1200mAh capacity. I've tried doing that here on the dc-battery Oz website but have yet to receive a reply. Please let us know how you get on.
Rosemary, re Oz. I'm wondering where your brother was he couldn't stand the heat for 3 days and left. All I know is this place has been overun by UK migrants (and others) over 200 years, only a confused few have gone back. In recent years, we hear news about summer heatwaves in UK where the natives have been dropping in the street like flies. So there you go ... lol.
Camera speed setting. Just read a bit more in the camera docs. The other (manual [advanced]) setting you can also try for a moving subject is "Tv" on the top rotary dial. These manual setting combinations of shutter speed/aperture size roughly equate with what photographers are familiar with if they have had experience manually setting older film type cameras, SLR's etc. Maybe something for you later on after more experience.
I look forward to hearing from you about the Sport and Splash Water and Anti-shake modes, Rosemary. Cheers. Ken
SD cards are consumables and they sell those from time to time so why not the bats ?
Re my brother in Oz - I forgot to mention he was only there on his hols,
he didn't emigrate which was just as well really. Shame he didn't give his body thermostat more time to adjust, perhaps he just didn't fancy dying of heatstroke.
My pre-digital camera was a Minolta SLR and I never did use it to it's full capacity. I didn't have time to wade through all the technical stuff but fortunately it was auto-focus and so I managed ok.
My above mentioned brother is a photographer - he posts some of his work on www.smugmug.com If you put in the search facility either -
naturalwestphotoramas or john w hall you will get him up.
He does supersize panoramic photos of the rockies etc and also photos of the First Nations people when they have their festival in Banff.
I just looked and it seems he hasn't posted anything this year.
I'll have to search for a moving subject down town, cars, people etc as nothing much on the move in the garden yet to try out the differnt modes.
I'll report back soon - all the best - Rosemary.
Well fancy that .... my Traveler is replacing a Minolta SLR too ... model SRT Super or else known as SR-T303. Great minds think alike eh ... lol. The cost of films and film processing have pretty much killed it off. Museum piece?
If anyone has something to add to the battery debacle debate, please feel free to comment here. Aldi, where are you hiding?
Cheers. Ken
As regards all the settings: Yes, I'm also still learning but at least there is a lot to learn! Usually I start by using the standard settings and check by zooming in if the result is sharp enough etc. When not I'll try other settings depending on the situation. When you are using a tripod and have a subject that doesn't move you can for example increase the shutter time to say 0.5 s and still have a very small diafragm for optimum sharpness over a large depth area. (Very useful for close-up shots).
BTW. I think I described that I also persuaded my mother to buy the same camera, but she feels it's way to complicated and might better have kept using my old 3.1 Mpixel Kodak camera. Well, she still can... BTW. Before I made her use that she didn't want to use a digital camera anyway but kept buying analog camera's. The advantage of having two of the same camera is that we can share the loader and the accus and the knowledge about the camera...
And then there is the element of dust on the foto-element. With analog film it would be removed every frame when you transported the film, but on a digital foto-element it will accumulate.
Thanks for your imput about the subject of a replacement battery. I agree caution is needed in the selection of a battery, some may be duds and even dangerous, others, and I assume the battery that came with the camera is amongst them, are fine. Being merely an end user of this camera, I think it shouldn't be rocket science trying to sort which battery to buy, hence if I stick with the original battery model/brand, find a supplier, buy it and then get on with my life. Seems that may be too much to ask. Still, from what you say about mAh claimed capacities, at this stage, I'm thinking then the battery available at the supplier at dc-battery.co.uk/advanced_s... is the best I can find so far.
I see from your previous post that you bought the Traveler DC-8600. So I'm wondering what is different about it to the Traveler DC-XZ6 I just bought? One thing (I think) is that yours has a viewfinder of some sort, either digital or optical ... yes? If so, I would have liked that. Anything else important? Cheers.
Ken
As regards the Traveler DC-XZ6: This thread is about the DC-8600 and not any Traveler camera. ;-) I have just tried to find something about your camera, but couldn't... Please send us a link to a relevant site. After my camera had been sold here at a new branch of Aldi for quite a long time (and many of them were left over) they tried to sell a similar camera with 10 Mpixels instead of 8.1 but for 175 euro instead of 125 euro. I think that 8.1 Mpixels is already more than you need in 99% of the cases so I'm very happy with my camera. In fact I have reduced the resolution setting of my mothers camera quite a lot to save harddisk space but still allow 10*15 cm prints of enough quality. She has a 4 Gbyte harddisk. I have two 500 Gbyte drives (mainly for games...). Of course I'd gladly help her transfer her OS and data to a new harddisk if only she would make her mind about needing a bigger harddisk. I also installed one of my old CD-writers so she can put the photo's on CD-R's. But she seems to think it's too complicated. Mothers! ;-)
As regards the viewfinder: No, my camera doesn't have one and I think it's the right way to go. I never used the viewfinder on my old Kodak digital camera (which I got for free when switching my energy supplier ;-). Once you have an LCD on the back showing you more or less exactly how your picture will look, why use a viewfinder with all of it's problems? And I don't even wear glasses. ;-)
Another problem is zooming. How can you ever show zooming in a viewfinder (except with a mirror reflex camera (SLR) of course), but that has other drawbacks as I tried to describe.
I think that you can safely give the 'security' number to companies that you trust.
The Minolta I have (still) is a 7000. There is something wrong with the shutter, it sticks and I haven't bothered to have it repaired.
As you say - a museum piece.
Hi Jaap - Sorry, we (Ken & I) are losing the plot & straying from the thread re the DC-8600 but it all seems helpful and entertaining and if only owners of the DC-8600 can post info what are owners of the DC-XZ6 going to do, just watch and keep quite, ha ha
I'll just keep it short and sweet in future - (I hope)
All the best 2U both - Rosemary.
My DC-8600 seems to work fine with a 2 Gbyte SD card though...
Why push your luck, just try if a 4 Gbyte card works and otherwise buy several 2 Gbyte cards.
Why would you need a 8 Gbyte card? At 3 Mbyte per picture you can take 2700 pictures. Earlier generations of people died of old age before taking that many pictures! And have you considered how long it takes to read or write such a card even over a USB 2.1 connection? ;-)
For specs etc. on Traveler cameras goto: h8349.serverkompetenz.net/h... website states DC-8300 supports 1Gb SD card. Interesting though, Traveler website states DC-8600 also supports 1Gb, yet earlier in this thread, Tom (11/2/2008) found out it supports 2Gb. So who knows, maybe the DC-8300 does as well. Try it and see.
At best, Raj's 8Gb SD card would be handy as a portable data storage device.
Jaap, in answer to a comment you made earlier about viewfinders, my wifes digital camera has a viewfinder capable of being focused to suit ones eye and importantly, also zooms in and out, gives a similar view then to the LCD display, only smaller. So its very good in bright light situations where the view on the LCD screen is impossible.
Rosemary, I see what you mean about Aldi selling SD cards but not batteries ... a 2Gb SD card is available in Aldi UK at the moment.
Maybe it will eventually be available here in OZ too. A query I have though is about the write speed rating of SD cards on offer. It isn't stated anywhere what is the maximum speed rating of an SD card the Traveler camera supports. Obviously it would make sense to use the fastest memory SD card the camera supports, but we don't know what that is. For instance, an SD card I would consider buying is the Sandisk 2Gb Extreme III SD card, but I don't know if the camera supports that writing speed. Similarly, the 2Gb "High Speed" SD card Aldi is selling at the moment .... what does that mean ... "high speed"? Compared to what? Specs? Who knows. I understand not all digital cameras support the higher memory write speeds. Yet it is important to exploit the write speed a camera supports, to do otherwise simply means hanging about falling asleep while the data is being written to the memory and you can't do a thing until it's finished. So the quicker the write, the quicker you can get on with doing the next task with the camera. Clues anyone?
Cheers. Ken
I have in the camera at the moment another brand of high speed SD card, Dane-elec (133xs which I think is high speed) and it is working fine, but as you say high speed compared with what.
I got it from www.7dayshop.com (uk) I looked for the battery on here too but they didn't have it.
How are you liking the camera so far - have you had good results ?
Bye for now - Rosemary.
Hope this helps you out. I have a Traveler DC-Xz6 digital camera that I just ordered batteries for. The website is star-battery.com/DIGITAL_CA... First I t/w the company to make sure this battery fits and I ordered 2 because they are on sell for $11.09 and minimum shipping is $8.00 (if you get one or two, same price). I purchased my camera after seeing my niece's pictures that she took w/her camera. ALL her pictures look like postcards and they all are of professional quality, with details that are fabulous! She had an DC8600 1st then upgraded to the DC-xz6 and says she will continue to use both. Some of her pic's of bumble bees and flowers she has had blown up in size and framed. They look better than any picture you could by in a store and they were taken in her own back yard. So beautiful with details. She also has pic's of jet's flying that are unreal. (no blures)
One of the things I like about the DC-XZ6 is that you can use it as a video camera for up to 2 hours, never needing the big video camera again. Just ordered batteries that should be here in 5 days. (Rollei- DP 8300 or DS 8330) DRL002 Hope this helps everyone!!
Jeannie
Rosemary, no I haven't done much lately, still getting to know it mostly. The feature I really like on this camera that I haven't seen before is in photography mode ... the quick method of "reviewing last photo/delete option." Just pressing the SET button brings up the last photo to view, if you want to delete it, hit the trash button, hit the set button ... and its gone. Very efficient. I also like the way multiple thumbnail photos can be viewed together and you can mark all the photos you don't want and do a bulk delete in one go.
Ok well I have yet to decide on a 2Gb SD card, the Sandisk Extreme III is available here so I'm tempted to go that way at the moment.
Jeannie, it seems to be unclear how much credence should be given to stated mAh capacity of these batteries, your new one is listed as 1100 mAh whereas the battery that came with the camera states 1250mAh capacity. It may be interesting if you could report back here after you've used the new batteries for a while, whether or not you can discern that your new batteries generally last as long between re-charges as the original "higher capacity" ones. Cheers. Ken
Regards Reg.
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Regards Reg.
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You can find more details here:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secur... regards the cameras not being able to 'support' a fast SD-card: Any device will support any high speed SD-card but is it capable of providing the data fast enough? Well 133x=133x150 kbyte/s=20 Mbyte/s and a modern processor (as used in these cameras) should be able to provide the data with that speed.
BTW. The given speed is probably the read-speed and not the write speed.
Here are some other useful remarks about which speed card to buy:
gadgetspage.com/cameras/und... fully agree with him that when a high speed version only costs 25% more you should go for that but also cosider that the slowest versions usually are already high-speed (50x or more). This is typically a market where some parties try to make money by selling 'quality conscious people' the 'best quality' by just putting an ultra/gold/platinum sticker on some of the standard products...
(As a technician I prefer to buy the cheapest product or to see concrete specifications...)
BTW. When you have trouble reading an SD-card with a certain universal card reader, try another one. I have found that some are better than others and sometimes a very cheap one (no brand, sold in the Wibra here in the Netherlands for about 8 euro) is better than a more expensive one (Sweex, sold for about 15 euro).
Reg ; Thanks for the websites re batteries but not sure if any of them are suitable, trying to find out from Jaap above. The Part No. for my Traveler is 02491-0054-06 (1250 mAh)
Thanks to you both - Rosemary.
BTW. As regards batteries, there are much more serious problems than the (hypothetical) energy capacity. Some batteries (NiCd for example) lose capacity when you don't fully charge and discharge them each time. This is called the memory effect. They will remember the last levels of charge and discharge and won't go outside of those borders the next time. NiMH which is often used in recharchable AA and AAA batteries doesn't have the memory effect, but loses it's charge at a rate of say 5-10% a month, which makes it hard to store loaded batteries. (A solution is to keep the battery in the loader all of the time where it is being trickle-fed).
I don't know much yet about the Lithium Ion battery technology used in our batteries, but as I understood the batteries seem to age quite fast. (That is losing their capacity over time.) That means you will have to buy new batteries every 5 years for example. Suppose the capacity loss is 10% per year, that means that a 1250 mAh battery will become a 1125 mAh after a year (of laying in a warehouse for example).
Personally I prefer cameras that use standard AA or AAA rechargable batteries because you can keep a pool of cheap, recently recharged batteries for all kinds of devices and use a semi-professional loader. (Batteries are currently 5 euro per 4 AA/AAA batteries at Aldi). Another advantage is that the batteries can use the latest technology. And yet another advantage it that you can also take some regular (non-rechargable) batteries along as a backup or you can buy them localy, for example when you are on vacation. My mother took my old Kodak 3.1 Mpixel camera (which uses 2 AA batteries) on a boat trip to Norway last summer and recharging the batteries in foreign situations can be a much larger problem than just buying non-rechargables (which have a higher voltage and a much larger capacity by the way...).
Well, considering all of this I bought the Traveler DC-8600 because of it's other merrits and the fact that it came with two accus/batteries and a loader and a pouch and cables etc. whereas a lot of other brands seem to charge an excessive amount extra for the optional 'extras'.
And of course because of the specs that I'm interested in:
- enormous macro-zooming (I want to be able to photograph
a single flower close up)
- semi-serious movie-making (640*480 at 30 fps with sound)
I will read your info again & again.
As I said somewhere above, I won't consider buying a camera that doesn't have a Macro facility and that's the reason I bought first the DC-8600 and then upgraded to the DC-XZ6 both with Macro & Super Macro as I photograph flowers more than anything else. I've had stunning results with both cameras. When you import the photos to the computer you can see details which are invisible to the naked eye, hairs in foxglove throats, bristles on flies, pollen grains etc. Iris petals look like white prawn crackers, crisp and glistening. The cameras open up a whole new world which is truly amazing to see. Many thanks again 2U both - Regards, Rosemary.
As regards seeing details that you can't see with the naked eye: Scanners are also quite good at this: The human eye is quite compatible with a scan of 300 DPI (dots per inch) but modern scanners can scan at about 2400 DPI which is equal to using a magnification of 8! Try scanning a black and white 'photo' in a newspaper!
They were selling a Traveler microscope at Aldi here (well it was in the folder) for about 50 euro, but I had already bought a Bresser one from Lidl (for 60 or 70 euro) some years ago which seems to be slightly better. Both microscopes also have an ocular with a digital USB camera but it has quite a low resolution (at lest on my Bresser: 352*288 or such). Besides the USB ocular the microscopes are quite good on a just below professional level. It's similar to or better than we had in high school and what a chemistry student in a university would have had. When you have never used a microscope it's really a good introduction! (But read the manual very carefully, it's easy to push the lens through the specimen glass...). BTW. if anyone knows where to buy a better USB ocular for the Bresser microscope or a ring to attach our camera to it let me know. BTW. one of the biggest improvements for microscopes like these is the use of bright LEDs to illuminate the specimen from the top and/or the bottom. When I was young it had to be done with a bright 60W lightbulb and a mirror bellow the specimen and that created quite a lof of heat (cooking your sample) and you couldn't move the microscope even a mm or the light would change... That is all much simpler now but it's still a lot of work to make nice pictures.
Here some pictures from another (French-speaking) user:
users.skynet.be/chricat/usc...
Well, tonight I just dug out of a dusty old plastic bag two (shamefully dusty) old Russian Zenits - one is a Zenit-E with Helios-44-2 2/58 lens (SLR I think, it's quite bulky) and the other a Zenit 3M with Helios-44, 2/58 lens not sure if it is SLR, both are quite heavy.
I think the shutter is stuck on one of these Zenits and not sure if the other still works. Both with viewfinders which Ken would love.
Next coincidence, also in bag are three (equally dusty) screw-in extension rings which you mention above to facilitate getting closer to image/object. One is about 1" in height including screw thread, next is just over 1/2" and last is just under 1/2" making a total of 2+1/4" including all knurled edges of rings.
I remember using them once trying to photograph a bug of some sort, it turned out ok but focusing at close range was very difficult.
Both the cameras & rings belonged to my father. He had a collection of old cameras. If he were still alive today he would be amazed at the advanced technology and would love all the digital cameras and their capabilities and ease of use.
Next, I had given me last year a BioLux microscope 40x-1024x from Lidl. I used it briefly but hadn't put the software into computer as not sure if it was safe, then the bulb blew and we couldn't buy right size to replace it, then a few days ago my husband found a spare in the box. I haven't had time to try it again - I suppose the software disc is safe to run ?
Tonight, I only just looked at your video clip and photos of your (dusty) keyboard ha ha, so we have that in common too.(dust).
I don't know how I missed them before but I could not find the photo of your mother. By the way, flowers & bugs are much more interesting than dusty keyboards.
And finally, back to the Traveler cameras, in Aldi's here they still had (a couple of days ago) one of each of the Traveler DXZ-6 10.1mp €169.99 & DC-7900 7.1 mp €69.99 but they haven't restocked with the DC8600. Wonder what will be next ?
We haven't heard from Ken for a few days - are you still out there Ken and just busy with your Traveler ?
All the best - Rosemary.
The shutters of the Zenith's were made of a kind of asphalted cloth and very prone to failure (a friend in high school had one I think). BTW. The much more sophisticated metal shutter in my Praktica also had to be repaired later.
The Zenith camera's also used P-thread (Praktica-thread) I think. The first standard for lenses. It was very easy to find cheap lenses and other parts because it was all very standardized. Later Olympus, Canon and Nikon etc. all introduced their own 'standards'. Well bajonet connections can save a lot of time when exchanging lenses and the camera's got more and more electronical and less mechanical of course.
Focussing at close range is always very difficult and that is where a mirror reflex camera can be very handy, but not when the subject is moving. I hat I lot of tame mice back then and they tend to move. Our Traveler camera's have a setting where it takes 3 photo's in rapid succession or keeps taking photo's in rapid intervals. I haven't experimented with it yet. Of course you can't use flash at close range so you need to set-up a well lit scene which takes quite a lot of planning. I bought two 5 dollar bureau 12 V halogen lamps some time ago but both have died in the mean time because the internal transformator gave up. I'll buy some more of them later, hopefully of a better quality.
As regards the software for the Biolux: I think you can trust that. BTW. the driver for the camera is generic I think, so it's already present in Windows XP and Vista and you can also use other software to capture the images or the 'movie' from the camera. I have several programs from other webcams, scanners, videocards etc. so I'm not sure if I used the software that came with the microscope. But I always trust software from serious companies. Most software that comes with products like these are downgraded versions of the professional version. I think that this microscope came with Ulead's photo-express SE (special edition). You can probably also download it from their site for free.
With the bulb that blew, you mean the LED? It's amazing how powerful and multicolored LED's have became over time. As far as I can oversee I think all of those kinds of LED's should be compatible and shouldn't cost more than say one dollar. I'd worry more about getting a LED that emits enough light and in all colors than if it uses the 'correct' amount of power. The power unit should be able to accomodate any LED. Most LED's need a voltage of about 1.5V I think. BTW. I didn't find a spare LED in the box...
Anyway, a LED blowing up is very unlikely unless perhaps you reverse the current. (But I'd have to check that. Does your husband tend to experiment with these things?)
The photo of my mother:
xs4all.nl/~ganswijk/travele... the dusty keyboard: Well I was impressed by the macro
capabilities of the camera and these were all photos and movies
made soon after buying the camera. Sometimes when I see
demo photos I doubt that an amateur could make them within
say a week.
As regards keyboard hygiene: I have seen much worse keyboards
in my life because I have used a lot of second hand keyboards
over the years... (I'm using another second hand keyboard in the
mean time by the way...)
As regards Aldi and their cameras: I think that the DXZ-6 and DC8600
are too similar to keep offering them both but they seem to think
that a cheap non-zooming camera with only 7 megapixels for 70
euro might appeal to part of the 'masses' and my mother would
probably like it's snapshot-camera-like qualities. And frankly, a
moving lens is way to expensive when you can replace it with a
(in the mean time cheap) multi-megapixel sensor that most people
don't need and with which you can do the zooming digitally?
Most people don't seem to be smart enough (as we are) to
appreciate the macro capabilities of cameras. ;-)
Talking of the mechanics in the old cameras, I'm just looking at the Minolta manual and a blow out of all the works inside the camera -
about 7 circuit boards or more plus numerous sets of cogwheels etc. I haven't a clue what's inside a digital camera but I guess it's nowhere near as complex as SLR's. Thank God I don't need to know what inside to be able to use a digital.
I have plenty of dead butterflies that didn't make it through hibernation over the years so I'm going to take some "dust" off a wing and have a look under the microscope. I've seen them before and they look like roof tiles in different shapes and sizes.
Re the dust, it's everywhere, one can't get rid of it even if you dust each day it comes back down again, very frustrating and not worth bothering about really. My brother once had a 3d camera - I don't know how frequently he used it or what happened to it.
I often wonder if someone will invent a holographic imaging camera /+ tv's so we can see things in 3D, maybe it's impossible but reminds me of a sci-fi film with Walter Pidgeon in it, Robby the robot. The evil side of his conscience manifests itself as the monster of Id. Can't remember the title but he spins a disc on a table and a 3d image appears for a few moments.
Sorry, strayed from the thread again re the DC-8600 so maybe you can keep it going telling us about your results.
Thanks for all the additional info - Regards - Rosemary.
PS - I remembered the film title - it was Forbidden Planet.
Also in my posting above of Wed March 05 I made a typing error, the price of the
DC-7900 7.1mp Traveler was €89.99 not €69.99 - sorry if I misled anyone.
I have just tried a 4Gb SDHC (Class 6 Higher Speed) memory card and it does recognise the full capacity! Be aware, it is possible a standard speed 4Gb SD card may not work, I cannot confirm this as I don't have one.
Also, I haven't yet tried any higher capacity cards than 4Gb. Good news I think anyway.
there is a good Forum exact for the Traveler Digital Cameras. Traveler-forum.de it is german, but most
do quite write English well.
Traveler dc-8600 for night short, I would turn to the "red hand" and not on automatic "A"
That increases the the sensibililty. But you must hold it very quiet as you might know. Best a stativ or wall
or so..
Hope this helps
fred
for batteries: amabilidade2002.com/cellpho... Traveler DC-8300, DC-8500, DC-8600
Traveler DC-XZ6 etc..
Picking the "best" lens really depends on the types of shots the photographer wants to take. Wether you have a SLR or a point and shoot with an adapter, you have to know what kind of lighting you'll be in, what your subject is going to be, and any other pertanent information. For low lighting situations, you have to pick a lens that will have a wider aperture (for SLR cameras). For shooting wildlife, you will need a large focal length because you can't always get close up for good shots. Saying one lens is "the best" really depends on what its being used for.
Andrew
This camera might be ok... but you might want to keep looking. It has average-to-fast times on everything, with about half a second shutter lag (from when you push the button to when the shot actually fires) and just under 2 seconds between photos when you're using the largest resolution (this gets shorter as you use lower resolutions). It also has what is called a burst mode, which is where you set it to take pictures in rapid succession when you push the shutter once. It takes about 3 photos every second which is pretty decent.
There are faster ones out there, but this one is pretty respectable. If you're looking for something faster, let us know what other features you like and we can try to point you in a good direction.
I'd try one of the following. They are all cheap yet reliable and more-or-less "plug and play" when it comes to downloading photos onto your computer:
Canon Powershot A410 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... )
Nikon Coolpix L4 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... )
This camera will take up to 250 pictures (CIPA Standard) with included AA Oxyride⢠Batteries. If you upgrade to rechargeable lithium ion or Ni-MH batteries, you'll see even better life.
Andrew
AS LONG AS THE SUBJECT IS IN FOCUS IT CLICKS OFF ALMOST INSTANTLEY.
<a href="digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... is our full list of lowest priced cameras.
Thank you
If you want a nice camera that is cheap and easy to use but still takes great photos I would recommend the Panasonic Lumix DMC LZ3 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ) over the Pentax. It has more features and it is more highly review by users that have had great success with this model. The pentax isn't bad and having rechargeable batts is the only way to go with a camera that has bad batt life, but the Panasonic is really te best way to go. $150 which is amazing. Takes extra good pictures of friends.
Thanks in advance!
The red eye reduction tool on most cameras is hit or miss. The beauty of digital technology though, is the photographer's ability to use software to correct it after the picture is taken. You can get software that works well for this around $100 now. I personally use PaintShop Pro ( store.corel.com/webapp/wcs/... ). I've found its very user friendly, and doesn't hog your memory like Photoshop does.
Andrew
You might try the Canon S2 IS ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ) or the Fuji S5200 Zoom ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ). Both have the 5 megapixel (+) quality of the Panasonic LZ3 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ) but have the viewfinder as well. Both are slightly more expensive though.
Andrew
Yes, it can. this camera comes packaged with Panasonic's Oxyride AA batteries (longer life than alkaline), but it can also use alkaline and rechargeable NiMH AAs.
If you want a similar camera with sound, you need to check out the Panasonic LZ5 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... )
640 * 480 at 30fps with sound and no limits on how long I can record for.
Please help me, Thanks
Might I recommend the Pure Digital point and Shoot camcorder? You can get a 30 minute version for about $99. The new 1 hour version has improved color and audio performance. Both units plug into your PC for transfer afterwards.
It's a great camera for what you're looking for.
The Panasonic LZ3 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ) should be more than fine for a beginner. You might also look through Digital Camera HQ's gift guide ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ) to find just the right camera for her.
Andrew
You can also review our low-priced cameras listed <a href="digitalcamera-hq.com/digita...
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You might also like the Fuji Finepix F30 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ) or the Pentax Optio A10 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ). Both have nice 2.5 inch LCDs and both offer auto settings for the beginner.
And, the other one we always mention to people as an excellent easy-to-use camera for cheap is the Panasonic Lumix DMC-LZ3 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ). Bargain price, fun to use, quality images. Two-inch screen.
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* Kodak C875.
* Panasonic LZ5
* Olympus Stylus 740
* Pentax Optio A10
* Samsung L85
* Panasonic TZ1
* Nikon Coolpix L5
* Sony W70
Take a close look for each. But... I've like to say my own point of view: The best one, is the Panasonic because of the 10x optical zoom (with Leica lenses...), but it's also too big comparing it to the Nikon L5 that has a high quality lens of 5x. The Kodak also have 5x, but Nikon has the best Image procesor, so you may have better pictures. The Olympus is not bad, but you can have something better for that price. The Samsung is an excellent camera, with 5x and a bigger sensor, which will make higher quality pics (and bigger, with 8 mp).
So... buy the Panasonic if you don't care of the size. If not, the Nikon L5, or the Samsung.
Hope to be helpful,
Alan.
Big screen, easy, good
In order to print photos up to about 8x10, what you really need is 4 megapixels or so (anything above that is just cake). If you want to do some comparison shopping, <a href="digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... our list of point and shoot cameras; you can narrow it down by megapixels and price. Hope that helps!
Andrew
Good luck with your new baby.
A great camera for anyone, excellent price, quality, and easy to use.
Check you the high reviews too!
Ciao!
The Cybershot T30 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ) is a fantastic camera (a little more bang for your buck than the T9 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ), I think).
What other features are important to you aside from IS? That may help us point you to a better choice.
One thing- don't worry overly much about reviews unless everyone is saying a particular thing about a camera... lots of times I've bought a camera that got reviewed poorly for something and found later that it wasn't a problem at all. So just be wary of that.
I can spare to about $300. Please guide me to the best camera with these features.
A few others to consider:
Canon Powershot A85 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ): I own this camera and I love its low light images. They sometimes do have a yellow cast to them, which I think looks great and so usually don't take out, but if you have a photo editing program the yellowness can easily be removed with the color balance tool. Takes perfectly colored daytime pictures.
Another great one to look at is the FZ20 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ), although again a little above your price range. Also check out the Sony Cybershot P150 or its cousin the P200 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ) for very true colors, low image noise and good twilight modes. Both retail for around 200 dollars and can be found on Amazon.com.
Wouldn't it be nice if a camera could take a picture of anything and come out crystal clear? =) While that isn't quite possible, if you have a problem with camera shake you'll want to look for a camera with image stabilization, which will help cut down on blur even when the camera and subject are moving. It isn't a magic tool, but image stabilization can definitely improve your pictures.
I recommend what's called Optical Image Stabilization over the alternative (Digital Image Stabilization), because Optical is more effective and doesn't cut into your image quality like Digital can do.
You didn't mention your price range, but if you're looking for a quick-reacting camera that is easy to use, has image stabilization and is portable, here are just a few to look at:
Canon Powershot A710 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ) (these are super user-friendly)
Panasonic Lumix DMC-LZ3 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ) (super cheap and super good quality)
You might also get some answers from our <a href="digitaladvisor.com/guides/f... Guide</a>, it is really good at helping you narrow down what features matter most to you. Feel free to come back and ask if you're still not pointed in the right direction. =)
With that said, if you do want to upgrade and you're having problems with blur, first narrow down what's causing the blur. You won't be able to take pictures while you're jogging no matter how good your camera is. =) But if the problem is coming from typical camera shake then definitely look into one of the ones mentioned above with image stabilization (preferably Optical).
Just to show you an example, <a href="dcresource.com/reviews/cano... review</a> for the Powershot A710 (mentioned above) shows the difference that image stabilization makes. Click on the link and scroll almost halfway down the page to the two side-by-side pictures of the vitamin bottle. One of them is taken with IS and the other without. Definitely helps with camera shake!
The Panasonic DMC-LZ3 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ) has a battery life of up to 250 pictures (CIPA Standard) with included AA Oxyride⢠Batteries. This is taken from the spec page on the Panasonic site ( www2.panasonic.com/webapp/w... ).
Andrew
yeah, from the specs page....i want real life experience - how is it really. Thank you for taking time to answer though.
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very simple to use point and shoot
digita with a 4x zoom if possible
First of all, you should know something about cameras to decide for youself, because that's what you should do.
Any digital camera comes with automatic settings... including DSRLs.
The image quality in interior shots, is defined by two things, depending on each model and brand. In one hand, you've got the sensor size, and the number of pixels (in other words, how big each pixel is...): that determines how much light is going to reach each pixel, so it also determines if noise (or any other image issue) is going to be visible, or not. In the other hand, it's the image processor. Some brands use strong noise reduction, that it reduces noise but also detail. How much noise you want visible, and how much detail you want to preserve, is going to lead you to a brand.
As this is leading you to a study of each model, and each brand itself... and I supose you don't have the time to do it (if not, you would have done it, without asking these guys that don't have anything else to do...) I will recomend you some cameras... the best of each style.
Ultra-Compact: Fujifilm F30.
Point & Shoot: Canon Powershot G7.
Large Zoom Point & Shoot: Fuji S6000 fd.
DSRL, under $600: Pentax K100 D.
DSRL, under $1000: Nikon D80.
I hope this helps you...
Alan.
Note: the fujis are best of it's class, with no discussion because of the high quality sensors (super CCD), while the others can be discussed.
Thank you so much for the reply
the cannon power shot SD900 will work out great for me and i will look at the S600FD
Thank you agin for your time
Earlene
1. very good 6x optical zoom
2. optical image stabliser
3 venus engine plus which is designed for use in interiors
4 automatic mode setting such as party and candelight
great for someone who is used to point and shoot
Pay special attention to the Panasonic Lumix DMC-LZ3 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ). It's got 6x zoom and a 5MP sensor all for under $200. A great deal.
There are many things to like about the Easy Share system. But the thing I like the most is it's undelete capability. You hit the wrong button or delete an image too fast, you get a "do-over!"
For a beginner, that's an important feature.
If you are looking for a camera that is easy to use for a first time buyer and crammed with features for a good price I would have to suggest two cameras to choose from;
The Panasonic Lumix DMC LZ3 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ) is amazing and it only around $160. It takes 5 megapixel stills which is high enough to print out 8x10 quality photos from a printer and has 6x optical zoom, plus tons of other little tricks to help you take great colorful stills.
Also the Canon a610 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ) is a great buy wit 6 MP and 4x optical zoom. Takes quality pictures as well.
But really anything in this price range from one of the brands mentioned above is going to be very good quality.
The A610 beats the Pansonic hands-down at low light levels. The image stabilization is worth little, since with low light the flash comes on/ is required anyway. Also, the sheer weight of the A610 constitutes "stabilization" of sorts: you will hold the amera steady.
The Panasonic does not have a view finder. Really annoying at low light levels!
Unexpected, the A610 is excellent to photograph documents at low light levels, e.g. checks, letters, other photographs.
If we had to do it again, we would forsake "image stabilization" and buy a 2nd A610.
If you are willing to spend more money I would suggest the Canon a710 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ) it is easy to use and it is very powerful. The main benefit of this camera is the Image Stablization which helps keep your pictures free of blur. No camera really has large labeled buttons because smallest is best in the digital camera world it seems but this is the same camera my grandfather has and he doesn't have trouble with the buttons. Basically the important buttons are big so it isn't really a problem for people of any age.
good luck
There are few brands that make good camera's panasonic is one of them but also this olympus is a good camera my advice would be go to a great shopping mall and take you child with you see how he or she reacts if you give the camera to the child , some childern know that it is expensive and handle it with care some childern don't the like to play and touch the camera too hard on fragile places like the lcd
The proprietary battery in the F20 is a 5 V battery. It could be expected to recharge quickly, too.
Panasonic Lumix DMC LZ3 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... )
Canon A530 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... )
Very highly reviewed camera as well.
Ciao
If you are will to pay a bit more the Canon Powershot A630 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ) is easy to use and a great value for the amount of features it has.
Check them both out, see what you are willing to spend. Good luck. They are both excellent cameras.
Send us his myspace page if he ever gets an pictures up I would love to see them.
Good luck
This delay between when the button is pushed and the shot is taken is known as shutter lag and can sometimes be a problem with digital cameras. You'll want to look for a new camera with as short a shutter lag time as possible. A few good ones to look at:
-Panasonic FZ50 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ) (high end price range but shutter lag of fractions of a second)
-Kodak Easyshare DX6440 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... )
Also, more high-end DSLRs (thousand-dollar price range and such) will have much less shutter lag than a typical point and shoot.
Another quick tip- prepare yourself to take the shot by half-depressing the shutter button before the "action shot" is ready. Half-depressing the button will frame the shot but not take the picture. Then when the action really happens, push the button down the rest of the way. This will eliminate a lot of problems with shutter lag because the delay is being caused partially by the shot framing, so get that out of the way before you actually take the picture.
Clyde
If the shutter lag is good (i.e. fast), then the manufacturer will often time it and advertise it, but it's not a set specification (at least, not a public one). For the most part it is camera reviewers that put the camera through field tests and publish the results, including shutter lag.
If you're curious about lag on a certain camera, try going to www.google.com and searching for the name of the camera and the words "shutter lag." You should be able to find lots of reviews and responses that will tell you how well the camera performs in that area.
Look at the specs of the cameras you're interested in; we almost always list the kind of battery they use. The Canon A series mostly use AA, so you can stay away from those, and some Kodaks use AA. Otherwise most cameras use Lithium
This camera is retailing at 179.99 at Circuit City and at similar prices at other places. Take a look at the reviews page for it ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ) and there are "merchant offers" listed down the right-hand side with prices and links to buy.
You can find a helpful list of Wide-Angle cameras in this helpful article ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ). There are plenty of great cameras that will suit your needs.
Hope this helps.
Ciao!
Or the Panasonic Lumix DMC LZ3 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ). Check out the reviews on each and see which best fits your budget and feature desires.
You can find out what 5 and 6 MP cameras are the highest rated by checking the 5 and 6 MP sections here:
digitalcamera-hq.com/digita...
You can find our listing of under $200 cameras here ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... )
I'd personall suggest the Panasonic LZ3, or Fuji FinePix F470. Check them out:
digitalcamera-hq.com/digita...
Jane --
The viewfinder is getting to be a thing of the past on the ultra-compact models; they need to replicate the optics of the real cameras lens, and take up room that could otherwise be used for the new larger LCD screens (and cost more). And viewfinders are so "2005", that any self-respecting 15-year-old dude would think you were trying to pawn off some pre-historic junk on him :-).
But the close-up of art part makes for a real challenge. For this, you probably want a camera with a longer-than-average zoom (4x or even more), and you really need to be able to focus carefully, so manual focus is probably a good idea. The thing is, manual focus is sometimes implemented through the LCD, not through an actual optical viewfinder. This means you need good eyesight and a large screen.
So are you sure you need the viewfinder? A really big LCD screen (2-1/2" or better) are what's hot these days. They are not as fast as a real viewfinder, which can make careful composition of fast-action shots hard, but for art and closeups, they are really quite good.
Consider the <a href="digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... target="_blank">Nikon S6</a>. Review, as with most of Nikon's non SLR models are mixed, but it's got a large screen, and needs no wires to download to the computer (cool, baby). People are not thrilled with Nikons -- I wonder if this is just because they have such a great name for themselves with SLRs. Then again, we have watched them put out ho-hum cameras for the last few years; this one is one of the first to suggest they are able to do something different and interesting.
Panasonic, the least cool brand in history, has a pretty well-respected camera line, and the <a href="digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... target="_blank">Panasonic DMC LZ3</a> is getting pretty good reviews. It's got a longer zoom, which is a good thing. But Panasonic? Yes, they make really good cameras, but their image (pun, sorry) may not be so great with teens.
Pentax also does a good job with small digitals, and the <a href="digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... target="_blank">Pentax M10</a> might fit your requirements. It has a larger screen and manual and auto-focus modes. If only it had more zoom...
Maybe someone else has some other ideas! I haven't actually used any of these cameras, so take my words with a grain of salt.
Tom
Panasonic Lumix DMC-LZ3 Reviews
Panasonic Lumix DMC-LZ3 Reviews by Digital Camera-HQ Users
- 2.0 out of 5
I recieved this camera as a gift about 1 1/2 years ago. Camera was working great. Loved it. Then all of a sudden the screen went black. Thinking that I might have pushed a button on the menu that did something to cause the "black out" I had my camera friend look at it. Friend looked at it and said that there was dirt on the lense internally. I needed to get a hold of the company and get it replaced. Back to it as a gift. I have no bill of sale. So therefore no warrenty.. Was told that I had to send in with camera $52 for diagnosis fee. Then was told the starting rate for repairs is an additional $111. Operator told me that the fees would cover the shipping and handling. So nice of her. So the total for repairs would be equal to purchasing a new one. This is a no brainer. Any one want a broken camera????
- 5.0 out of 5
I find it this camera to be awesome. It is a decent size, the pictures are nice, it is user friendly, and the battery life....I give it a 10. I dont know how many times I have found that the camera was accidently left on and the batteries still good! It has an auto-"sleep" mode which is awesome. For an low cost digital, this is the way to go! I have been very happy with it.
- 5.0 out of 5
I really like this camera. The photo quality is excellent and the 6x optical zoom was much better than anything else in its price range. Some have expressed concerns with it's durability, but mine has survived several drops, most recently a 4 foot drop onto my concrete garage floor 2 days ago. Wish that the video had sound, but I didn't buy it for recording video clips, so that's not too important to me. All in all a great camera and easy to use.
- 5.0 out of 5
This camera is awesome!Some people don't like it because the have not read the instructions fully. It has a ton of features!
- 3.0 out of 5
The 'anti-jiggle' tech is very good. Camera is compact and easy to use. Lots of nice features. I can't live with 'no sound with video' and no view-finder.
- 2.0 out of 5
I really like my camera EXCEPT when it keeps asking me to turn it off and on again, and it won't turn it back on for up to an hour. I just can't rely on it. It's random and doesn't always happen, or may not happen for about 500 shots, then it starts doing it again with a vengeance! I haven't been able to get it fixed or find out why it is doing this. I've tried all sorts of things, eg different batteries, memory cards, different settings, to no avail. Any help would be most appreciated
- 3.0 out of 5
This camera takes great pictures for the price, but one little bump and it's shot! Mine tumbled about 16 inches off a chair and landed on a thick carpet and the lens will no longer retract and a constant error message of "turn camera off then back on again" appears on the screen. Physical damage not covered under warranty. Spoke with someone else who purchased this camera and it broke while walking around with it in a case. Works nice, but keep it in a bullet proof container!
- 3.0 out of 5
I absolutely loved this camera. It was the first camera that I actually took time to learn inside and out. This camera took some awesome pictures. I even shot a music video with it.
(To view the video visit: www.youtube.com/thepsychonubs)
Then one day it just stopped working. The lens won't retract and anytime I try to do anything with it I get an error message saying "Please turn camera off and then on again"
Good camera, but fragile. The cost to get it repaired is almost as much as a new one.
I'm pissed I gotta ditch this camera...
- 3.0 out of 5
The camera is so awesome that I cried when it broke so soon after purchase. It is slippery
- 5.0 out of 5
Hi! I own this camera for almost 6 months. It's an excelent camera in it's segment, i allready took many pictures with it and i'm trully satisfied. I love the big zoom range and details that photos has. I recommend it camera to all beginners, and i can say that only disavantage for me is that it hasn't manual modes (such as for shutter an aperture priority). Have fun with it!
- 3.0 out of 5
Just got my camera and the features seem great but I do think that it is a bit misleading to say that it records in movie mode when it doesn't record sound. While it is not a camcorder it would have been fun to record those short fun clips some times.
- 5.0 out of 5
I bought this camera today on an impulse at Best Buy. I returned home and started testing it out (primarily the macro function, to take pictures of my error coin collection), and I can't believe the detail that this camera can pick out! I don't even have a light, I just used the flash.
- 5.0 out of 5
Awesome camera! still learning all of the available functions. Takes good movies too, but I thought it would record sound when I made the purchase, oh well. Over all a very good digi-cam!
- 1.0 out of 5
The digitals went and the warranty was voided because they said it was physical damage. No way. Will never purchase another panasonic camera again because they do not stand behind the product. The camera was used on a vacation and broke, BETWEEN PICTURES, while being carried. It was a very hot day. Maybe the heat?? Even so, that is a manufacturing flaw. Spent too much money.
- 5.0 out of 5
I own a large DSLR and wanted a small camera to take on business trips. This camera is a gem. Easy to use, great ergonomics and great results. Manual is crystal clear, providing detailed instructions on the vast number of options. You can't go wrong.
- 2.0 out of 5
Best camera I owned do far. Easy to use. Good pictures. But all of a sudden one day It started putting white horizontal lines across the whole photos, making photos completely useless. Tried every thing in the menu, no avail. Contacted Panasonic, but they say it will be covered only for parts, I have to pay both way shipping + labor!!!
- 5.0 out of 5
I love this camera! It is so easy to use. When looking at cameras too many of them were very complicated. I highly recomend this camera. Great picture quality.
- 4.0 out of 5
first, thank you to all the reviewers who helped us purchase our second digital camera. after reading the reviews at cnet.com i had dispared of finding a good quality camera under $200. but, on the suggestion of another reviewer i looked on this site and i could not have been more impressed by the degree and competence of the reviewers. so, again thank you.
the camera, on first inspection, feels solid. buttons are arranged comfortably so holding the camera does not become an exercise in finger contortions even with its small size and shape. the lcd screen is the menu button, zoom, mode dial and optical image stabilizer button are well configured for comfortable manipulation while shooting.
the operators manual does a fine job of explaining the basic layout of the camera as well as the many options available for taking pictures. although, i dont know when i will require a specific mode for food or fireworks photographs but who knows.
the camera was easy to take out of the box and use from the first. and, i was taking pictures, changing the default settings and enjoying the camera within twenty minutes of taking it out of the box.
a note to perspective buyers: invest in a memory card from the first. the built in memory only saves about 14 pictures.
also, because of the camera's small size, plastic frame and obvious lcd screen you may want to grab a camera case before leaving the store. i love the feel of this camera but i do notice myself worrying about my three year old grabbing it when i set it down on the table.
thanks again for all the reviews, you made this an easy and painless purchase.
- 5.0 out of 5
The LZ3 is rare in that it offers a high optical zoom of 6x, an image stabilizer, and 1600 ISO capability for low light, all for around $160. Any other camera with these high quality features will typically run for $250-$300. I appreciate its compact design because most with 6x optical zoom are significantly larger. I like that it uses AA batteries as well because I hate running out of battery in the middle of the day and having no backup. Lithium ions ($50 and up) are too expensive to buy extras. I travel often and this camera has adapted well to all the various conditions. If you are a student like me, every dollar counts! This camera gives you every feature you want short of an SLR and it does it all for about half the cost of comparable models from Canon or Olympus. If you can find it for about $160, it's the best compact digital around today.
- 5.0 out of 5
ok for six months i am very happy with my purchase of my camera. with all the setups and do hickeys you can do on this camera it willgive you a heart attack. should be well over 200 dollars but take advantage ang get this camera great pics
- 5.0 out of 5
After doing extensive research, I concluded that this camera was the best value out there - 5 megapixels, 6x Optical Zoom, Image Stabilization, only 2 AA batteries - all for $170. After 7 weeks of use (this is my 2nd digital camera), I am convinced I made the right decision. Picture and design quality are excellent.
- 5.0 out of 5
Easy to use and to download onto computer. Comes with usb cable. Uses 2 AA batteries. Batteries only last a few days. Had to get recharable batteries and recharger. Does not have viewfinder.
- 5.0 out of 5
First digtal camera ever owned. Really think it Is truly a beginners camera for sure! Lots of simple to understand features . The instruction booklet is very user friendly. Although short time owner heard about some cameras that do not live up to the "hype". Bought this at Circut City along with other PC goodies.
Very happy Owner.
- 4.0 out of 5
Picture quality is good. Features and ease of use all good. I'd buy it again. (In fact I am — I lost mine and miss it)
- 5.0 out of 5
We recently went on a trip to Disneyland, and every picture we took were excellent. The stabilizer was a life saver because we were not always able to be perfectly still while taking pictures. It was really great that our pictures taken on the rides or of our party on the rides in sports mode were very clear.
