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Panasonic Lumix FX30
Editor's Review
The Panasonic Lumix FX30 is, as of Feburary 2007, the world's smallest camera with a wide-angle 28mm lens. This ultracompact camera is capable of big things, encompassing a wider field of view than most and allowing you to capture larger groups and longer panoramas without any additional accessories. The FX30 also features an above-average 7.2 megapixel sensor, which will provide high-quality photos ready for large-size prints.
Editor's Review
The Panasonic Lumix FX30 is, as of Feburary 2007, the world's smallest camera with a wide-angle 28mm lens. This ultracompact camera is capable of big things, encompassing a wider field of view than most and allowing you to capture larger groups and longer panoramas without any additional accessories. The FX30 also features an above-average 7.2 megapixel sensor, which will provide high-quality photos ready for large-size prints.
Specifications
- 7.2 megapixels
- 28mm wide angle lens
- 3.6x optical zoom / 4x digital zoom
- ISO 100-1250
- Auto focus and exposure
- Secure Digital memory (27MB internal)
- Panasonic MEGA Optical Image Stabilization
- Movie mode
- 2.5-inch LCD
- Lithium ion battery
- Release Date: Jan 31, 2007
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Panasonic Lumix FX30 Comments & Questions (write your own!)
But, same GOM player is working okay with other movie file (not taken by Kodak) in my pc.
Additionally, same FLV file that was taken by Kodak is working perfectly okay with Gom player at my friend's machine.
Any clue?
Thanks,
No need to lose the moment because you relied on one card one when several can solve that problem.
The Lumix software may help. What file-type are the movies recorded in (.wmv, .wav, etc.)? It may be a software issue on your computer.
Andrew
The extension of the files is .mov
The weird thing is that the computer recognizes and plays some of them (in picassa, it won't play it in GOM movie player, it says "you don't have the necessary Codec to play it).
Then again, it plays some of the movies I made some time ago - a week ago - it this GOM player, but the sound shuts down at half of the movie. Picassa plays the same file normally, with sound until the end.
????
This whole thing should be simple - I had an Ixus previously and it all went fine. The Ixus movies were in avi mode.
What should I do?
The Lumix software plays the movies all right, but when I copy-paste them into another folder or rename the folder, the same problems happen again....
HELP!!!
This sounds like an issue with the movie players you are using, not the files. I would actually remove some of the players that aren't working from you by uninstalling them through the control panel. If you're interested in trying a different movie player specifically designed for .mov files, I would try Quicktime. You can get a free download from Apple ( apple.com/quicktime/ ).
Andrew
Glad we could help. Please come back with any other issues or questions.
Andrew
If it is just the sound that goes after 30 seconds, then you might have an issue with the camera itself. I would contact Panasonic customer support ( www2.panasonic.com/consumer... ). If this camera is underwarranty, you should be eligible for a repair or replacement.
Andrew
While the Kodak brand has been around for a while, I have heard that there are quality issues with their digital camera line. I'm not sure the 513 is listed here, but the C533 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ) is, and it has an overall rating of a C out of a F through A grading list. There are a lot better cameras out there.
If you're looking for something in the same price range and about the same size, I would recommend the Canon SD1000 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ) or the Panasonic FX30 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ). I have had a Canon pocked camera for almost 6 years and it still works great, and the Panasonic has some great features like a wider angle lens for group shots and Image Stabilization. I hope this helps.
Andrew
Personally, I don't see much value in the few extra options of the FX30 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ); I would purchase the FX10 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ), if I was picking between the two. The higher ISO settings will help you in lower light situations, and you can't beat the price.
Andrew
Cheers ;-)
Anyone used both? Which is easier to use?
The Pansonic is more expensive - is it value for money in comparison?
Let's start with just the basic specs:
FX30: 7.1MP; F40fd: 8.1MP (the Fuji has higher resolution, which will allow for better detail at similar ISO, all things equal)
FX30: 1/2.5" CCD; F40fd: 1/1.6" CCD (the Fuji has a much larger CCD, which will allow for better low-light pictures)
FX30: 28-100mm; F40fd: 36-108mm (the Panasonic has by far better zoom range, including the wide-angle that you mentioned)
FX30: 5cm macro; F40fd: 7cm (the Panasonic has slightly better macro, but it's not a deciding factor)
FX30: F2.8-F5.6 aperture; F40fd: F2.8-F5.2 (again, the Panasonic has a slightly better aperture range, but not a big deal)
FX30: 5 meter flash; F40fd: 6.5 meter flash (the Fuji has a little stronger flash)
FX30: 3fps continuous shooting, max; F40fd: 1.3fps for 2 pictures (the Fuji's continuous shooting is worthless)
FX30: 848x480@30fps video; F40fd: 640x480@30fps video (the Fuji has standard video, the Pansonic has wide-screen)
FX30: 2.5" LCD w/207,000 pixels; F40fd: 2.5" LCD w/230,000 pixels (same size screen, the Fuji's being higher resolution)
FX30: 3.7"x2.0"0.9"; F40fd: 3.8"x2.3"x.9" (the Fuji camera is slightly chunkier)
FX30: Image stabiliztion; F40fd: NO
These cameras are actually about the same price (unless you somehow found a great deal on the Fuji and didn't bother looking for the Panasonic; they can both be had for <$200). The optical image stabilization on the FX30 will help somewhat in low-light pictures, but not on the subject (only the blur caused by your hand-movement)... this will allow still-subject pictures on the FX30 to come out about as well as the Fuji. However, with moving subject pictures in low-light, the F40fd will definitely be better.
The question then comes down to what you plan on using your camera for. Do you plan on taking a lot of pictures in low-light without using a flash? The F40fd would then be the better bet (although the low-light pictures aren't as good as the F31fd). Do you use flash on the majority of your pictures, take more still-subject pictures if in low-light, and want a better field of view? Then the FX30 may be the better bet.
Check out www.flickr.com. You can type in the camera name you want to look at and see pictures from amateurs and pros alike. For instance, typing in FX30 will show you a few still-subject low-light shots on the first page, and you can rummage through all the pictures you'd like.
For me, the FX30 would fit my needs better, but our needs are all different. :)
Thanks Matt for your detailed response - very helpful.
Otherwise, you may want to look at a Canon camera, as I've had nothing but good experiences with skin tone and proper color when shooting. The SD800IS is a great camera and a good compare-it-to camera for the FX30, but it costs a little more at ~$270.
If you need a camera now, you won't be disappointed with the FX30. Here's a link you can go to, as well, to see amateur to professional pictures with the camera: flickr.com/search/?q=fx30&a... can also check out a few of my SD800IS pictures at the same site: flickr.com/search/?q=mattk1... And all SD800IS pictures at: flickr.com/search/?q=sd800&...
Thanks for your response. Since I posted this, I actually have aquired more interest for the new DMC FX33. As you mentioned, cameras get better as technology improves, so I assume this one is better than the FX30. The only problem is, it hasn't fully hit the market yet and is thus still >$300. I may try to wait it out until the price goes down, as I have heard great things about this camera. Especially because it has added face detection, which I don't think the previous Panasonics had. Have you heard anything about the FX33, good or bad that I should know about before going through with a purchase? I'm not sure how the reviews compare to the SD870is, but I know both are great cameras.
Thanks Matt!
You're right, the FX30 doesn't have face detection. And the FX33 has more resolution. It also CLAIMS to have an ISO ability of 6400, which is just plain ridiculous -- the VENUS III NR system the Panasonic cameras use are bad enough, let alone cranking it up anything over ISO800!
You'll have to be careful with the "intelligent ISO control" as well, since Panasonic cameras (it may be different on this new model) always sets the ISO to something around ISO200 or higher, even if you're using flash, or there's enough light for ISO100. You may want to create a manual preset for ISO80 or ISO100 when you're in good lighting. No point in reducing image quality when there's absolutely no need.
The FX33 also has an underwater housing available, and more stamping features on your pictures (including text stamp).
I'm impressed by Panasonic's ability to improve on their cameras each year. I just wish their VENUS noise reduction engine would be changed.
Maybe by the time you're ready to buy the FX33, the FX35 will be nearing production :)
Yes, I saw that the FX33 is supposed to be <$300 when it releases, but there are some places online claiming to sell it early for $330-370. A lot of places say it is expected to be released in September, but I think Amazon has it right and it will probably come out in Oct. I figure it is worth the wait.
I really appreciate your opinions, as I have had a hard time getting educated responses from people who really know cameras. I am personally not very savvy with digital cameras and have recently been trying to learn more. The only part I'm a little confused about is the ISO ability. So the higher the ISO, the greater the noise? If so, I will take your advice about presetting the ISO controls if I get the FX33. How is Canon's noise reduction? If Panasonic's Venus system is as bad as you claim, do you really think they will replace it soon?
It just seems so hard to make a decision on what camera to buy when better ones keep coming out. It seems neverending. That was partially my issue with deciding between a Canon and a Panasonic. I love the Panasonic, but it seems like the rest of the world backs Canon's reputation and quality. I guess I have another month to be torn and see what else comes out...
Thanks:)
There is a direct correlation between higher ISO's and higher noise. The reason I'm not fond of Panasonic's VENUS engine is because VENUS reduces noise by compromising smoothing the graininess, causing color and luminance detail to be lost. Canon, Fuji and other brands have a noise-reduction engine that accepts the noise reduction to keep the sharpness and detail/color intact. Why is this better? Because you can always post-process a picture and lower the sharpness in favor of noise manually -- you can't take a blurry, smudgy picture and make it sharp again. Fortunately, the Panasonic FX cameras are good up to ISO400, and above ISO400 the pictures will be fine for 4x6" prints if the scene doesn't rely too much on low contrast or fine color detail.
I have to stress this, though. The VENUS system isn't BAD bad, it's just not as good. For the average picture-taker (and especially on 4"x6" prints), no one will tell the difference.
When buying a camera, the first thing you have to accept is buyer's remorse. Take me for example: I bought the SD800IS in March, I think. Now the SD870IS is coming out, which is the better model. But I'm happy with what I bought, and I knew full-well there'd be another camera that would better what I had. However, I wouldn't have had a camera for 6 months if I'd have waited, and I'm glad I didn't wait.
Don't get me wrong, I don't hate Panasonic. The Lumix TZ3 is one of my favorite ultracompact cameras. But there were disadvantages to that camera that made me favor the SD800IS, just like some disadvantages of the SD800IS (lack of optical zoom being the most obvious) will make people pick the TZ3. Does that make sense?
I'd go so far to say that Panasonic, along with Pentax, are two of the most unrecognized brands for camera quality. Nikon, Canon, Sony and Fuji take all the limelight. But from the flickr website I sent you earlier, you can see for yourself that buying the FX33 won't be a mistake. Just be ready to accept a better camera when it comes out 6 months, 1 year, etc from now. :)
I'm sorry if I am bothering you, but I really really appreciate your opinion. It is extremely helpful as you are the only person actually working out my camera questions and concerns. I looked at the few FX33 flickr website pictures, but also looked at the FX30 just to see more selection. On page two of the FX30 flickr pics, there are two pictures that show what I didn't like about my FX07. The untitled picture number 16 on page 2 shows a SF cityscape. It is beautiful, but some of the buildings on the middle/right seem a bit fuzzy to me. I can't describe it in technical terms and am not sure if it is noise, but it just seems to lack a certain softness. The green trees, white building and green building all seem fairly harsh and almost too digital, if that makes sense.
The same thing goes for the picture of the men in the park a couple pics below. The pics I took on my FX07 in the sunlight were very bright and almost white lighted like this one, without very much facial definition. I assume the FX33 will improve the face issue, but I guess I am just used to my old Sony cybershot creating more of a softer coloring in daytime pics. Or maybe there is a setting to avoid this look on the FXs. Some of the outlines of faces or even one man's socks just seem a bit fuzzy and lack a certain something. I think I am trying to describe wanting an image that is crisp and defined, but not harsh, soft, but not blurry. Does that make sense?
The truth is, 99% of my pictures will be for 4x6 printing and 75% of my pictures will have people in them. As I said before, I am not a camera wizard or professional photographer and thus do not need a perfect camera. However, ever since my old FX07, I have noticed sensitivity to certain harshness in pictures. Maybe it is because the Leica lens was more detailed than my old Sony and I'm just not used to it. I'm not really sure what I am asking you and apologize if I have typed in circles, but these are my dilemmas and I am interested in your feedback.
Like you, I don't want to wait 6 months for a camera, but I would love to make sure I make the right decision on the FX33 and thus am willing to wait a month. I'm using my old, banged up Sony for now, but I am very excited to replace it:)
Thanks!
One thing to notice is that he was taking pictures with the camera fresh out of the box. He didn't adjust default settings, increase sharpness, adjust color, etc. Also, depending on the monitor you're using to look at the pictures, the picture may be at a higher resolution than your monitor can view it at. I'm using a 22" HP widescreen monitor, and the picture looks completely fine. Also, the softness of the edges you may be seeing could be the position of the sun (the lighting), and also the contrasts between objects. For instance, the lefthand side of the picture has the building in strong sunlight bordered by a brilliant blue sky. The right side is slightly out of the sunlight and has a lot of busy, muddled textures and elaborate, geometrical designs. To the eye, the less cluttered, "clean" view is on the left side, and we find it more attractive. To me, I don't see anything wrong with the right side. If you're worried about barrel distortion, don't worry -- if there was, you'd most likely see symmetrical aberrations on both sides of center, not just the right side. :)
Also important is that, when printed (especially on a small 4"x6" photo), you wouldn't even be able to tell the softness/sharpness differences if they even were present to begin with. In order for those differences, you'd likely need a minimum of a 8"x10" picture professionally done (ie, not an inkjet).
I understand where you're coming from with the oddly colored trees, though. The brilliance of the green is distracting and almost "unreal". Some camera manufacturers (Canon included, actually), prefer the more vivid, overly saturated colors so they pop out at you. You can tone that down. Again, out of the camera, he certainly didn't do that. Oddly enough, though, you didn't mention the beautiful sky... that blue is unrealistically clean, but we tend to look past the sky. The larger tree in the middle, though, does look to be slightly shaded near the middle bottom, which could account for the dark and light patches in the trees leaves.
And finally, the picture of the people in the park. Notice the two on the far left. They are affected most by the glare of the sun. Most cameras have an issue with chromatic aberration (ie, dark contrast suddenly hitting light contrast). This usually causes a purple fringe along the border. In this case, the camera overcompensated and started to oversaturate the strong contrast areas, namely each man's left shoulder and face. Oversaturation leads to bleeding and reduced detail because the color detail is reduced. If you're thinking the reason may have been the lack of facial detection, that may be a part of it, too, since the other four men on the right do have slightly blurred faces. HOWEVER, you have to remember that the photographer may be an amateur, OR intentionally focused on something other than their faces. Oddly, the man standing up has the most definition even though he's the most washed out. The photographer may have locked the autofocus on him, panned right, and took a picture. Even the tree in the background has detail, leading me to believe he autofocused elsewhere.
It's good you're looking into all these shots. But flickr.com, along with any other picture site, has pictures ranking from amateur to professional. I'm sure you'll find other pictures that help you believe what this camera can do.
Any other questions, keep asking :)
Good point about the amateur photographer. I could probably qualify as such, but am trying to change that. I want to avoid oversaturation and sloppy autofocusing to hopefully help the camera help me. You're right, it is a quality camera and I just need to believe.
If it's alright with you, I will email you back once I purchase the camera with questions about the best adjustment settings. If you have any suggestions right off the bat, that would be wonderful as well. Otherwise, I'll check back in with you in about a month.
Thanks Matt!
And a word of caution: I can't guarantee the FX33 will improve on everything with the FX30. I haven't had the chance to play with the camera myself. You may want to wait a few weeks after release to see amazon.com reviews and one or two professional reviews online before grabbing this camera. There have been a lot of cameras (the Fuji F40fd comes to mind) that haven't been as good as the previous model (oh yeah, the Canon SD1000 comes to mind, too).
Ok, so the FX33 is starting to become available online for about $299. I was looking at some older pics from my FX07 in comparison to my old Sony Cybershot and I panicked a bit about buying the FX33. I know the FX33 is an improvement on the FX07, but I am wondering if I should look at the SonyW80 orW90 for people pic quality. I have 2 pictures on shutterfly that I would love to show you to compare if you don't mind. The first one is from my old Sony and the second from my lost Panasonic FX07. The Sony shot shows more of the facial softness that I like, whereas the Panasonic shot seems grainy and fuzzy. Granted, they are two sepperate locations so it is hard to compare, but I would really appreciate your opinion on the quality. For basic photography of mostly people, I wonder if I should stay with Sony? I'm sorry to keep questioning myself, but I want to make the right choice and I would love your expert opinion:) Thanks!
panasonicsony.shutterfly.co...
Thanks!
Again, I haven't got my hands around the FX33, but I'd put money on being able to change the sharpness and color tint. This would be considered "Program Auto", which is essentially auto-mode with a few settings you force the camera into as default. You can probably even limit the maximum ISO the camera will take.
Take a look at the pictures from the FX07 at this site. One good example of facial definition is the picture labeled "getting into Myanmar taken with FX07".
So, I got my camera about a month ago and I still can't seem to get the soft pictures I am used to on my old Sony Cybershot. I take a lot of people pictures and so far, none of my friends like their pictures on my camera. Everyone just looks washed out and unflatteringly-captured. I know it sounds rediculous, but I have found myself leaving my camera at home, which is very unlike me. I tried slowing my shutter speed with a softened flash, but that lowered the quality of the rest of the picture and still didn't help with the tone. I am frustrated and wondering if I should sell my perfectly good, brand new camera and just go for a Sony Cybershot. I hear their new ones have HD quality. Do you know anyone who might be interested in a brand new black FX 33? I feel silly going through all of this, but the FX33 might be more percise than I need...which also doesn't make sense, but hopefully you understand somewhat where I am coming from. I look forward to your wise feedback.
Thanks,
Katie
As for HD quality on cameras? That's just another game Sony plays to get people to buy their cameras. The only thing HD pictures mean is that you can present your slideshows on and HDTV at 720P IF YOU BUY AN ADDITIONAL $40 CABLE!
Please reconsider getting rid of the FX33. Give some more patience to the camera, as everything takes awhile to get used to. Under Picture Adjustments you should be able to set your sharpness level. You can even do it during post-editing... most software allows you to simply select a sharpness level and convert your picture accordingly.
Before giving up, I encourage you to learn your camera a bit more. Don't get frustrated :)
The FX30 is a very capable camera and I'd say it'd be a good buy for you. That said, I haven't really heard too many complaints about the SD800 IS, which is itself a fantastic camera.
One thing you might look out for are the two successors to the FX30 which have just been announced, the FX33 and the FX55. You can check out the announcement about their release here ( dpreview.com/news/0707/0707... ).
Good luck!
The Panasonic website claims it's a brown, and they also say that colors may vary depending on country. I did a google search and every website that called it pink seemed to be a "co.uk" website, so maybe it's pink in Europe?
Good Luck
Thanks for the suggestion though.
But in the end, you are missing a codec and as such, WMM can't read the file. Find th codec and you can possibly make it work.
I don't think you made a mistake. The technical specifications are almost identical. Same thing about customer ratings. The only advantage of the 850is that I can see is the optical viewfinder. But not having it is not an issue for many people...
If you check the specifications of the camera, it has a macro mode that allows you to take pictures at close as 5 cm from the object.
You may log on to <a href="dpreview.com/news/0701/0701... location</a> to see more details.
yes! you can shoot close ups without an extra lens.
panasonic.co.uk/technology/... is photo using the lumix system.
flickr.com/photos/retinafun...
On the other hand Lumix has a 28mm lens and stab while 900 has a forgettable 37mm and no stab (a big step backwards compared to 850IS, this was a deal breaker for me when I was considering getting it). Both these factors are somewhat related to the question of picture quality.
As far as video is concerned, both cameras produce pretty good quality videos, with Lumix having an advantage IMHO because the largest res 30 frame video mode it has is 848x480 compared to 900's 640x480. But both cameras gobble memory like crazy on high-res settings, so even on a 4G card you'll hardly store more than half an hour of video.
Lumix is also much smaller, lighter, and cheaper, and I also like its finish more.
i am planing to buy a PANASONIC LUMIX DMC-LX2S 10.2 MEGAPIXEL DIGITAL CAMERA - SILVER DMC-LX2,
i like to know which one is better lumix LX2 or canon(dont know the model no.)
but similar model, compact one.
can you suggest me which one i should buy.
either i should go for the lumix or canon, but i like lumix more than the canon.
thanks and ragards,
upendra
kuwait
A wide angle is definitely the way to go. While a dSLR camera ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ) with interchangeable lenses for different situations would be ideal in purpose, their prices may not align with what you're looking for. The bulkiness might also prove annoying for a real estate agent on the go. An ultra compact camera ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ) would probably be great for you. The Panasonic FX30 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ) is a 7.2 megapixel, ultra compact camera that comes with a 28mm equivalent wide angle lens capability. This will be great for your indoor and outdoor photos, while the high resolution will make the images nice and sharp when posting them on the web. Good luck and happy shooting.
Andrew
Sue
A good low light performer and a wide angle conversion lens (available for many Canon Powershots) is your best option.
FX 30 has a 7.2 megapixel CCD , FZ07 has 5.4 megapixel.
FX 30 can zoom down to 28 mm wide angle, FX 07 can only do it at 35mm.
Fx 30 has an ISO resolution of 3200, FX07 stops at 400.
All considered the above means FX30 can produce better blown up pictures, more room for cropping, can include more people in a group photos, can show more or a building at close range, and can offset camera shakes at low light situations with higher ISO settings.
In short, the two cameras are not the same, with FX30 turning out to be better, specifications wise.
The fx30 is smaller in size, the smallest wide angele (28mm) camera on the market.
For the rest they look technical almost identical.
from the product announcements (dpreview.com/news/0607/0607... (FX50 and FX07) and
dpreview.com/news/0701/0701...
FX07
"The lens unit comprises of a LEICA DC lens of seven elements in six groups, incorporating four aspherical lenses to generate high optical performance while preserving the compactness of the unit."
FX30
"The lens part of the DMC-FX30 comprises of seven elements in six groups, including five lenses with six aspherical surfaces to generate high optical performance."
They both have a 28 mm wide angle lens. ISO of the both are also 100-3200, and they're both 7.2 MP. Both have 2.5" LCD with a resolution of 207 k pixels.
The only diffreence between these two cameras that I know of is the built-in memory of 27 MB in the FX30 while the FX07 has none. The battery cappacity of the FX30 (1000 mAh) is also a little less than that of the FX07 (1150 mAh). But this last feature is not so significant.
presumably to make the new camera that tiny bit thinner.
Panasonic Lumix FX30 Reviews
Panasonic Lumix FX30 Reviews by Digital Camera-HQ Users
- 5.0 out of 5
I'm not a professional photographer but not a complete amateur either. This camera is great for me. I've had no problems and have been very pleased with my photos.
It does have a slight delay (from pressing the button to the camera actually taking the photo), and I really miss a viewfinder, but other than that, I love it.
After I bought mine, my sister got the next generation. And then my other sister got the next one. So those who have used mine have liked it too.
Overall, a great camera for the money.
- 2.0 out of 5
You will be "cheated" by the LCD! when you preview the photo using the LCD, you will feel very satisfy with the photo, however, when you upload to computer, you will feel very very disappointed with the picture quality, especially indoor photo. High noise when in low light condition....due to the high ISO auto setting!
