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Panasonic Lumix DMC-FX50
Editor's Review
The Panasonic DMC-FX50, and its twin, the DMC-FX07, have a lot in common. It would seem that the major difference between the two cameras is the LCD screen, which is 3.0 inches on this model, and 2.5 inches on the FX07. If that's worth an extra $50 or so, then this is the camera for you. The FX50 is still a very affordable ultracompact with a huge 7.2 megapixel sensor and 3.6x digital zoom. Such specs would have been unthinkable at this price just a year ago. The FX50 comes in four colors: red, silver, black, and blue, adding a sense of style and personality to an already appealing camera.
Specifications
- 7.2 megapixels
- 3.6x optical zoom / 4x digital zoom
- autofocus, auto and manual exposure
- ISO 100-3200
- JPEG file format
- Mega O.I.S. image stabilization
- movie mode with sound
- Secure Digital storage (16MB included)
- 3.0-inch LCD
- lithium-ion battery
- Part Number: DMCFX50K
- UPC: 037988985906
- Release Date: Aug 04, 2006
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Panasonic Lumix DMC-FX50 Comments & Questions (write your own!)
What editor are you using? If you're simply relying on Windows Movie Maker, perhaps you need to graduate to a better piece of software that's also more flexible in formats - like Adobe Premiere Elements (about $100).
Given the choice though, I'd go with the SD800, but I think it relies on QT files as well.
I know how to transfer files, and how to edit them. My question was - can you transfer from the Panasonic in some way as avi files or convert the Panasonic mov files in some way to avi files, which is a much more widely recognized format. I had an older Panasonic Lumix and was very happy with it.
The downside to the Canon is that it basically doesn't offer any manual control, while the FX50 does offer some. But you mentioned that you wanted things simple, so as long as you're happy with point and shoot, I think the SD800 will give you much better results for your purposes.
The SD 800 was rated as one of the worst digital cameras in the last year. The image quality is not as good as if I paint it!!!
Go right away for the Panasonic... or just buy the Canon SD 900. Go for some other camera, if not. I highly recomend Samsung NV7 OPS, or Ricoh Caplio R40 (which has a 28mm wide angle). If not... just pay some more and buy the Canon G7.
Hope this other point of view helps you,
Alan.
Sounds like people really like the SD800 to me.
Buy the SD900 instead, or even the A710 IS.
The SD 800 has a lot of noise despite the strong noise reduction... and because of this, it has not that sharp or contrasty images either.
My opinion is to look for the best image quality posible for the money, but also features, versatility and camera size.
In my opinion, buy the G7... if that's too much money, go for the SD900, or the A710 IS. In my opinion, I like more Panasonic cameras... but I would go fot the DMC-LX2 (but it's also much more expensive).
Keep on reading reviews, and comparing models. That's the way to know what you are buying, and why you are doing it.
Alan.
The SD800 IS has a lot of nice features and takes high quality photographs. Very high quality photographs for a camera you carry comfortably in your pocket.
Yes, its image isn't as sharp as the highly-acclaimed-for-its-sharpness SD700.
But that's only noticeable if you are printing out two poster sized printouts and comparing them side by side. Its a slight difference - not a huge difference.
The kind of person who can appreciate this difference is also the kind of person who knows what 20 seconds worth of work with an unsharp mask filter can do.
As for the slight barrel distortion and some of the edge problems, again, the kind of person who this matters to, knows how to adjust for it in seconds in post production.
To ninety five percent of the population, they wouldn't be able to see these things if you pointed to them!
The SD800 IS takes exceptionally nice photos for a point and shoot.
To joe citizen, it takes absolutely gorgeous pictures.
the "Image Flaws" which I consider technology limitations at the time of manufacture, which are discussed in the trade reviews are professional observations which need to be reported. Non are reported as huge problems though.
It depends on what you are shopping for.
But few people will tell you the SD800 takes anything less than great photographs.
Look at the sample pictures at the various testing sites.
Just look at those pictures!
Then go to a store and spend some time with the actual camera.
So, no, its not the very sharpest camera on the market.
But the photos it produces are sharp. To me - Very Sharp!
Its got a wider angle lens than the others
Its got image stabilization
It shoots in low light (ever see 400ASA film pushed to 1600ASA? - its grainy!)
it has all sorts of features which most people find extremely easy to use.
Its a quality product. The people in the stores will point to other brands when you ask which cameras come back the most?
Its got a great metering system.
Decide what you need from a camera
Then look at the samples at the sites that test all these cameras using the same set ups.
But don't "read all the reviews"
Reviews are hundreds of words - Pictures are worth thousands words.
If absolute sharpness is your priority - than seek out a camera that is the sharpest on the market. Of course people will be complaining that that one has too much contrast and produces harsh photographs.
A Cannon PowerShot SD800 IS takes beautiful photographs a professional will appreciate. No, its not a studio camera, its a fit in the pocket point and shoot, and its one of the best ones out there.. ..this week.
Hey - even dpreview rates it a "Recommended" Buy!
There isn't the kind of sample material for the Panasonic available on the internet yet, as there it for the Canon. So it is a bit difficult to compare the image quality of the two cameras.
Both these cameras are in the same price range and both these cameras offer a 28mm lens.
For you Joan,
My thoughts are to suggest you going to a store that caries both of these cameras
Take a picture of the same thing (whether it be cameras on the counter or the sales person in the same spot) (you could even bring in something protable that is similar in nature to your sculptures) using both cameras.
Do the same with the room or a part of a display area in the store.
There, you have your sculpture and your interior design.
Then, compare the two after they print the pictures out for you.
They should, without hesitation, print out the pictures for you on one of the printers they are trying to sell.
If there is something you see in one of the photos that bothers you (like shadow detail loss, or color shift, or burned out highlights, or etc...) ask the salesperson to adjust for that -- and watch and see if that is easily adjusted for.
For you Joan, I would think now that you narrowed it down to two fit-in-the-pocket point-and-shoot cameras, both with 28mm. and both at the same price point - it comes down to taking the pictures and looking at the pictures!
Good luck to you!
Just to let you know about image stabilization. It works only with the photo taker/camera itself, not the subject. If the baby moves, the camera won't stop the blurriness if it has a longer shutter time. On auto settings in low light, the camera will automatically keep the shutter open longer to adjust for the lower light. If you want to take a better indoor photo, you'll want a higher ISO range (over 1000). Something like the Nikon S7c ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ) or the Olympus 730 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ) both go up to ISO 1600. The Panasonic FX50 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ) goes up to ISO 3200, and will allow twice as much light in, creating a shutter speed that is twice as fast as the 1600 setting in similar situations. This might even be a better option for what you're looking for. All of these cameras are under $300 and should provide enough resolution for sharp pictures. Good luck and happy shooting.
Andrew
It would be nice to take a closeup without being close (Zoom).
Price is not important.
Thin is king!
I'd recommend the Panasonic Lumix FX07 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... )/FX50 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ). (These two are essentially the same camera, except that the FX50 has a larger LCD, so if that doesn't make a big difference to you, go for the FX07 and save a bundle.) It's a 7 megapixel, 3.5x optical zoom ultracompact with very good optical image stabilization and a nice size (3.7 x 2 x 0.9 in). Users rate it pretty well in terms of speed, especially for an ultracompact (ultracompacts often sacrifice speed in their effort to cram everything into such a small shell). Finally, it has a nice 28mm wide-angle lens, which is a feature not offered by many other ultracompacts.
You mentioned that you would like to take several features in a row without falling asleep. One other camera you might want to consider is the Canon SD800 IS ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ), which also features a nice optically-stabilized wide-angle lens, 7 megapixels, and a 3.8x zoom. What sets the SD800 IS apart from its competition is its burst mode shooting (continuous drive), which will let you shoot at 1.7 frames per second continuously until you run out of space on your memory card. The SD800 IS isn't rated quite as well by users as the FX07 is, but it might be worth a look anyway.
Good luck!
Having just bought a new camera, my short list was Sony T10, & your choices for the same reasons - I've got 3 kids under 3!!.
The only noticable dif between the FX07 & 50 is the size due the the 50 having a 3" LCD.
Sony T10 looks great, it really does, starts up v fast, is the smallest by far & the lens is housed within the camera.....but had poor reviews for indoor pictures - mainly red eye probs - so unfortunately it was out for me. I know you can correct red eye but I don't have time - I needed a camera that takes good pictures full stop - with no farting about.
There was little in it between the Canon & panasonics - but the genuine wide angle lens on the FX07 / 50 was a real incentive. Reviews I read also suggested that the Canon had red eye probs too.
In the end I went for the FX07 - it's the next smallest after the Sony (the canon is the biggest) & I prefered the aesthetics - Canon's are so boring! (personal opinion!)
I,ve only had it 3 days & haven't had a chance to play with it much but so far I'm very happy - the menu's very user friendly, is very solidly built and looks great (it is a gadget after all!). I've only taken about 30 pictures so far - all indoors, with flash & of family - only ONE image has any noticable red eye - v impressive!
I had a Minolta XG before & the pictures already look much better - more natural. Can't wait to try it in daylight. Didn't realise it before but wide angle is great - no back against the wall or cutting Aunt Prue out of the picture at Christmas (not Thanksgiving, I'm in the UK!)
Oh, it's a lot cheaper that the Canon too.
Have fun!
Slim , fast , better pic quality and even a wide angle lens. it is rated at 1.7 fps.
Even faster is the older sd 700 IS which shoots at 2.1 fps.
Its simple go with the above cameras (sd 800) and you'll make a great choice.
Lissen to Mike. :)
Canon's SD800 IS ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ) fits all of your considerations except the AA batteries (it uses Lithium Ion batteries). Frankly, it's pretty much impossible to find a slimline camera that uses AAs, simply because they take up so much space in comparison to other battery types.
Some other cameras that fit your needs are the Panasonic FX07 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ) and FX50 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ), and the Kodak V705 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ). The Canon and Panasonic models are all 28mm wide angle, while the Kodak is 23mm (wider angle). Each camera has at least a 3.8x zoom. They're all in roughly the same price ballpark, at $275-$325.
Hope this helps!
Ben has made an excellent recommendation in the Canon SD800 IS. 7mp 3.8x len 28-105 and Image Stablization. Dimensions are 3.5 x 2.3 x 1
However, I believe the battary issue is critical. I have been in similar situation as your son and the availability of batteries will be critical. Therefore, I am recommending the Canon A710 IS. 7mp 6x (35-210) and image stablization. dimension are 3.8 x 2.6 x 1.6.
Yes, its a little larger but you have a bigger zoom which can be a big plus.
Godspeed.
The A710 IS takes AAs. You can get him both AA alkalines (the normal disposables) or AA NiMH batteries with a charger. It might be a good idea to get both, just in case. The NiMH rechargeables will last much, much longer than the alkalines, but as you say the chances to recharge them are scarce. Getting both means he can take advantage of the NiMHs when he has access to electricity, and he'll have the disposables for backup.
The Sony T10 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ) is a great choice. If you like that, you might want to look at the Panasonic FX50 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ), the Canon SD40 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ), the Panasonic FX07 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ), and the Sony W100 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ). All have very similar capabilities and are priced the same or lower than the Sony T10 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ). I would recommend going in to a retailer and holding the cameras to see what you're comfortable with in your hand before purchasing. This will ensure a good fit for you.
Andrew
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The worst that I found was dppreview, which preferred the image quality of the SD700, but still recommended the SD800.
And expert reviews aside, I love the camera... it takes great photos, comparable in most cases to those from my EOS Rebel XT SLR. And it's the easiest to use camera that I've ever owned, and I've owned lots of them.
Should make it far better in low light and at the higher ISO speeds. Hopefully better than the Fuji F30/31.
The SD850 IS is an upgrade to the SD700 IS.
The 700 was known to have sharper images than the 800 IS but this was because you have to make sacrifices when gaining extra features like the wide angle lense in the 800. The images of the 800 are great, but sometimes have softness around the edges. www.dpreview.com is the best place to go for reviews. On this website they'll show you comparisons b/t the 800 and 700 as well as with other cameras. Dpreview does not have a review of the 850 up yet. I am waiting on the dpreview before deciding if I want the 800 or the 850. I am wondering if the 850 has the sharpness of the 700 and the features of the 800, that would rock.
amazon.com/Canon-PowerShot-... as someone else mentioned, the SD850 is 8 MP and the SD800 is 7 MP and the SD700 is 6 MP.
dpreview.com/reviews/compar...
SD700=IXUS 800(6mp),
SD800=IXUS 850(7.1mp)
SD850=IXUS950(8mp)
SD900=IXUS900(10mp)
Actually i myself is debating over SD850 or SD900. sd850's advantage is the image stabalizer, but i have also the 700 and 800, both have image stabalizer but i dont see mush use of it. SD900 has more megapixels, and a larger resolution Video option even tho at 15fps. IS or 10mp?....
What are the opinions on the SD900 vs the SD 850?
Thanks
However the Canon with 2.5 inch screen is Great in low light without a Flash + has image stabilization. I have the Canon SD800IS + the FX50, and they are each good in their own little department.... I have yet to buy the Canon SD850IS, but have read many interesting reviews!
both super cameras, both real solid design and camera build...
is sensor size important? realizing trhere is also a difference in resolution of the two cameras.
also, is sensor size or resolution most important?
Ron Weaver (rweaver100@msn.com)
Sensor size and resolution are both important. They sort of work together to produce a quality image. This can get pretty complicated, but basically a high megapixel camera with a small sensor will not perform as well, and vice versa. You need to find a good balance between the two. If you're interested in the science behind it, <a href="cambridgeincolour.com/tutor... is the best tutorial I've found on it so far.
The SD800 takes images with less noise for any given ISO speed, but this is compromised by mediocre lens performance. By contrast the FX50's Leica DC Vario-Elmarit lens is outstanding for a point-and-shoot camera.
The FX50 does not zoom while shooting movies. This is unfortunate, but the video quality of the FX50 is higher and more versatile when editing. The FX50 records at 848x480 which is a 16:9 HDTV format. Panasonic records their movies with the Photo-JPEG codec and can be edited with QuickTime on both Windows and Mac OS X. The movie audio format is 8-bit/8kHz on the FX50 and 8-bit/11.024kHz on the SD800.
why are pansonic cameras subject to noise since they have great leica lens, high iso ratings and sensors that are better the average 1/2.5 ?
Ron
In their most recent cameras, Panasonic is using what they call the Venus III engine processor, which has noise reduction that some people swear finally fixes the problem- others say it results in blotchy painty-looking images and that it isn't a viable fix. It's open to interpretation.
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Panasonic Lumix DMC-FX50 Reviews
Panasonic Lumix DMC-FX50 Reviews by Digital Camera-HQ Users
- 5.0 out of 5
I am now on my 3rd digital camera. I had an early Nikon Coolpix that took forever to startup and focus, and delivered just ok shots. Then a had a Canon SD400 that was just ok. Never did understand the camera modes..and it took just ok pictures.
Out of the box this was pretty easy to use. Once I read through the manual ( something you need to do for cameras these days), it became very clear that I mwould love this camera. The modes are in SIMPLE English....although the Manual could use some translation. The day, night, outdoor and indoor pictures I took the first two weeks were great. The huge LED screen replaces a viewfinder which is ok with me. I recommend heartily.
- 4.0 out of 5
I really enjoy my Panasonic Lumix DMC-TZ1 for it's optical stabilizer. I can hand hold the camera and copy pages from historic newspapers, even getting down to close-ups using the macro mode.
But just two weeks ago the normal mode started over-exposing all images, whether indoors (shooting my keyboard) or outdoors at a golf tournament at Pebble Beach.
Luckily, I was able to switch to Simple mode and capture those images. As with most simple digital cameras, there is a slight delay when shooting sports. When I give my camera to someone else, they hold down the shutter too long and get two images. I guess that's good for sports photography, as you can always go back and erase the image you don't want to keep.
I don't plan to go back to a Single Lens Reflex camera, as this Lumix with a 10X optical zoom does a good job of capturing what golf shots I need. Besides, I can carry it around in my pants pocket.
I do recommend buying an additional battery, which I keep in the portable battery charger. No cord needed, the plug collapses and folds into the back of the small charger. That way you'll never be without a full battery.
If anyone knows what caused my normal mode to over-expose, please let this site know.
- 2.0 out of 5
The Panasonic Lumix DMC FX50 is the latest upgrade to the quite successful FX07, with the addition of a big, beautiful 3 inch screen. The menu functions are well laid out and easy to use, and the camera feels comfortable to hold and fits easily in the pocket. The Image Stabilisation (OIS) works very well even at long focal lengths, and is great for quick "one handed" snaps when on the move.
Recording video works quite well, however zooming is NOT available as mentioned previously and sound quality is quite poor, to the point of being unable to pick up audible conversation from anyone but yourself. And now..on the subject of poor.
Where this camera fails miserably is picture quality. Panasonic I believe have made a big mistake with this lens, as at its widest angle (and default start-up focal length), barrel distortion is quite noticeable with horrible blurring at the edges. This is most disappointing, considering it is quite sharp towards the centre of the image.
Initially I thought I'd been sold a lemon, but after browsing hundreds of photos from other FX50 owners on Flickr I, it is just as noticeable, especially when the images are viewed at larger size. Indoor photography is equally horrible as the FX50 struggles to auto-focus in even the most gracious indoor lighting conditions. Flash performance is not too bad considering the small size of the flash window, but flash-less photography using high ISO is also very poor, even when using a tripod.
In summary, I am very disappointed with this camera and would not recommend it to anyone wishing to take good quality pictures at sizes larger than 1024 X 765, and especially significant indoor shots. Such a pity though, that big beautiful bright screen is a wonder to look at!!
- 4.0 out of 5
I bought this Lumi recently after a lot of reviews and comparison. Firstly it is good value to money (Canon IXUS 850 is expensive and provides less accessories).
The OIS works like a magic. I don't hesitate to Lumi it to any person, even after knowing that the person might shake the hand during the photo! OIS works even the hand movement itself is very big.
The quality of shots is quite acceptable. Thought I got most of pics during daytime, few of pics taken in night are also good.
Most of features which Canon explicitly advertises (like grid mode in LCD) have been silently included by Panasonic! Oh yes...3" LCD is just awesome and I didn't have any display problem even on sunny days.
Also one thing that I noticed is the pictures are being taken very quickly. I didn't notice much of shutter-lag.
Few more advantages:
The live-histogram feature helps in adjusting the picture perspective.
The current zoom has been shown on LCD so can adjust the span.
I could shoot a movie with Zooming. And the movie was quite fluent.
Overall skipping Canon's face-detection technologys, then I think LUMIX DMC FX50 is simply unbeatable!
