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Panasonic Lumix FZ18
Editor's Review
Panasonic isn't content to sit on the sidelines while Olympus and Sony try to corner the extended zoom market. The Panasonic Lumix FZ18 is a nice update from a brand that knows how to make a good extended zoom camera. Following up their famous FZ30 and FZ50 models, the FZ18 arrives with a stunning, long-range 18x optical zoom and an 8 megapixel sensor capable of producing images that will allow for photo-quality 16" x 22" prints.
Specifications
- 8.1 megapixels
- 18x optical zoom / 4x digital zoom
- MEGA Optical Image Stabilization
- Auto and manual focus
- Auto and manual exposure
- ISO 100-1600
- JPEG file format
- 2.5-inch LCD display
- Secure Digital memory (27MB internal memory)
- Lithium-ion battery
- Part Number: DMCFZ18K
- UPC: 037988986941
- Release Date: Jul 24, 2007
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Panasonic Lumix FZ18 Comments & Questions (write your own!)
I am really sorry to hear about the problem you are having. I tried to find out if there was a reset button, but no luck so far. I would definitely say this is the time to contact panasonic and ask them for help. I don't think this should have happened to you at all. Let us know what you find out. I will continue to search as well.
Val
Thank you for giving me the best answer award even if I was the only answer. Please let us know what you find out so we can pass that info on to others. Good Luck,
Val
I am going to Ecuador in 2 weeks to work on a bird-monitoring project (for 9 days), and I wanted to get a camera (within $300-$350 range) so that I can take decent pics of birds. I just bought the Lumix FZ18 today, but I also looked at the Fuji Finepix S8100FD.
Is there any real difference between these two cameras that would make one a better choice over the other? (Besides the fact that the Fuji uses AA batteries; the site I will be working at will not have electricity, so I will not be able to re-charge the Panasonic battery; will have to buy an extra).
Thanks!!
of these two the fz18 is my choice for nature photography
the leica lenses are what makes the difference
colour accuracy is important in nature photography
it is my opinion that leica lens give the most accurate colour with the least amount of chromatic aberation
flickr.com/photos/odaydo/20...
Thanks
The good: Wide-angle, long zoom lens; nice set of shooting features.
The bad: Camera's JPEG processing choices can produce suboptimal results; no zoom in movie capture; sluggish LCD/EVF update.
The bottom line: A decent but not great camera, the megazoom Panasonic Lumix DMC-FZ18 still manages to outdo its few competitors.
You don't have much choice if you want one of these really long-lensed megazooms, but the Panasonic Lumix DMC-FZ18 looks to be the best of a not-so-great lot. It's a fine camera, as long as you keep in mind its shortcomings and can work around them.
Shutter lag is .7, so you'd want to prefocus before using. For that price, I think you can do better.
The Limited Warranty set forth below is given by Canon COMPANY listed below with respect to Canon Photographic Products produced in the United States, Canada, Australia, the United Kingdom or New Zealand.
So, it's international ... sort of.
thank u in advance
When I came home i compared the two and i was really dissapointed in the p80!!
The picturequality and the colours were a long way from the usual nikon quality.
I ended up buying a fz18 and i haven´t had any regrets at all.
Jarmo
I currently own the Panasonic FZ18 and was wondering if there are any remote triggers on the market I could use for this camera. So far I haven't located any in my research, but then again, I may just be looking in the wrong locations. Any help from those of you more experienced would be appreciated.
Another option is the Canon S5IS and the Pansonic FZ18 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ). All are highly rated.
since 2003 there have been great improvments in digital cameras
the panasonic tz5 has a 10times optical zoom which can be extended to 13x
Raphael Winters' has an album of bird pictutres which he took with a lumix tz3
wwwc.flickr.com/photos/raph...
Picking a memory card can be tough. The faster the write speed on the card, the faster you can get your image on it and move to the next photo. This does cost more, but helps if you're shooting fast moving subjects. This camera also accepts SDHC cards (high capacity). This will allow you to store more photos on one card. If this is the way you want to go, make sure you get one that is specifically SDHC. Some cards with larger capacity capabilities are not SDHC and probably won't work with your camera.
If you're just taking leisure photos, I would go with something like this ( amazon.com/Transcend-8GB-SD... ). It will store a lot for a low price, but doesn't write the fastest. If you want the faster write speed, this card ( amazon.com/Sandisk-SDSDRX38... ) should be perfect. Good luck and happy shooting.
Andrew
Is it better to get a 8 GB SDHC or a 8 GB high speed SD? Sorry, no more questions, you have been a big help.
Lars
More questions is why we have this forum, so don't worry about it. Definitely go with the SDHC card. Many "high speed" SD cards won't work in digital cameras, only the SDHC technology is compatible. The two cards linked above should be more than adequate for what you're looking for. Both are under $100 as well.
Andrew
So, justs looking at focal length and lens speed, the S5 isn't as wide as you'd like for landscapes and it's slightly faster lens doesn't really make up for that, so I'd eliminate it. Both the P80 and the SP570 are a tad wider than the PZ18, and the same lens speed at the wide range, so I think that's what you can narrow it down to.
As for underwater ... again, speed is going to be the factor here. But my concern is that these cameras will be too large for a decent underwater housing which often can cost more than the camera itself.
What applications have you tried?
I don't know if you have already resolved this problem, but I would say you could do what I do. I downloaded a video converter from AVS4you and converted my MOV clips from my FZ18 to format that my video editor would use. Before converting though, I would right click on vid clip and choose to open with quick time. This works, whereas if I just double click thumbnail it will try to open in the windows program and says it can't. Now I know I am working with WinXP so don't know if Vista is different, but I wouldn't be surprised.
Val
This camera is in no way flimsy. Really feels good in the hand, solid, yet light weight. Takes great pics, but take the time to learn as much as you can about camera to get the most out of it. I am still learning and finding new things all the time.
Val
Thank you for awarding me your points. I hope to continue to learn more about this camera and to be of further assistance to others.
Val
Good zoom -- 12X MIN but prefered 18X+
Speedburst -- Need at least 2 pics/second
Good for low light -- taking pictures at night with no flash, often zoomed in (on tripod)
Good for fast moving -- May need licence plate number of moving car, or quick shots of someone on bicycle, running, etc.
Is this the camera for me? My price range is about $500.. Any suggestions apriciated !!
I was looking at this camera vs the Olypis SP-550UZ.
Thanks!
I am afraid I would have to agree with James about the DSLR. As much as I love this camera, like most digitals, high zoom, low light does not render good pics. If you are having to zoom in, and the zoom is great by the way, but in the dark you won't get a good picture. Fast motion in low light situations will be a problem as well. In good light, the burst mode is great for quick series of pics, but again in the dark, or low light situations not gonna cut it. Don't know of any digital that could do what you need. But for all of your daytime shots it would be great. Probably not the time a PI is the busiest though. Anyway hope you can find the right rig.
Val
It is true a good portion of my work is in low light, but not that much low light AND fast moving. so I can use tripod with zoom, but if subjects are moving, still may not work too well....
Does anyone know if there are SLR or standard lenses and/or cameras specifically designed for low light situations?
I was facing the same decision last week and ended up choosing the SP-570.
I haven't used it much yet, but found the following articles helpful in making a decision.
This article compares some of the features of each camera side-by-side.
dpreview.com/reviews/compar... of the users in this discussion has both a SP-570 and an FZ18.
I disagree with the comment that the zoom ring is too slow. I find it faster than using a switch.
flickr.com/groups/olympus_s... sounds like they are both good cameras. I already had an Olympus so the fact that I could use the same cards was an advantage. Another thing that influenced my decision was other user comments that Olympus colours are better. I'm not sure of the truth of that, but can certainly say that the colours in my pics are great!
Hope this helps!
I switched HP 945 (ca 20k pictures /3 years) into 570uz. I must say: wow! The extraordinary zoom with pretty nice supermacro option are fully sufficient for me. The only problem I have: my hands shaking so additional stative is required to shot long distance scenes. IS is OK but when you running across the forrest, might be not enough :)
in the comparison of super zoom, sony h9 is not included and if you really like powerfull zoom series,plz.go through the below website,read carefully and you will come to know which one is the best. i have fz18 and its really good you can extend the digital zoom upto 115x. still the picture is ok.no issue. and i hope this is the best camera as if now by comparing with other cameras.
popphoto.com/cameras/4836/s... check this and i suggest you go for FZ18. and enjoy shooting.
with regards,
upendra
But tell me, which camera last for longer life? and which give better picture quality?
honestly telling you its very hard to tell the longivity of these camera,coz fz18 and all these cameras are quite new.
regarding picture quality,fz18 is really good.when i try in the low light, it really works.no issue and flash is powerful.
when u put in 8MG.and take its really good, perfect no problem.even when u make the mega pixel low like 5 or 3.for extending the zoom.
then also i dont find that much issue on the quality of the picture.its really good.regarding the quality of the sony.plz.try to find out more.
i dont want to suggest u blindly.
regards,
upendra
Thanks in advanced.
Confused,
Jenny
fz18.ruudabeln.nl/blueband.htm
Well I just checked out the article and ran the test on my camera and did not see this blue band. I have had my cam for a few months now and have not experienced this problem at all. I believe that it may just be a very few number of cams and that Panasonic is working to fix problem for them. That's my input anyway. Thanks for the question.
Val
With this resolution, can I convert it to DVD & view it on TV?
Yes! A resounding yes! I have taken some incredible video both in full screen and wide screen format and created wonderful DVDs from it. The video in this camera is very good and works even in difficult lighting situations, such as theater, my only problem is that I cannot zoom while recording. With a good video editing and DVD burning program, you can make great movies too. You might find that you will need a video converting program to change the Quick Time format, since many of the windows editors don't use .MOV, but that isn't difficult to find either. Anymore questions, just ask. Hope this helps.
Val
Thanks for the info.
When you said "full screen and wide screen format" is this for viewing on TV or PC monitor?
Goboxe
The two formats are the standard for videos. Full screen fits your normal TV with a 4:3 aspect ratio. Widescreen is like theater screen which is 16:9 aspect ratio and will fit LCDs and Plasma screens. Although you are not recording in High Def, you are using the same aspect ratio, so this fits televisions or monitors with this ratio. If you have an LCD or Plasma TV then you should record in 16:9 so it fits the screen better. Anyway, hope this helps.
What format option to use to record for 16:9?
Is it 848 x 480 pixels / 30 fps?
Do you know any reference that shows how long I can record video on 2GB/4GB card?
I just stuck a 2GB card in my cam and set it to the 16:9 ration and it says I have 19min 20 sec of recording time. In 4:3 it goes to 22min 30sec. Then I looked it up on page 132 of the manual and the chart showed the same numbers. So that should give you an idea
the 4GB card is twice this, but the camera will only record continuously up to 2GB worth. so you will have to restart recording I assume about 19 mins into your video. Keep the questions coming, this is great fun.
Val
Thanks for the award. Really love to see those points adding up, but more importantly, I hope I can be of some help.
Val
Spend almost 1 hour at the camera shop yesterday to hands on it...
definately a great cam compare to Canon S5IS (my other choice before discover FZ18)
I taken several video clips... and looks very good on LCD... I will try to convert it to DVD when got free time later.
Still pics.... can really test it yet since it is already at night... but the 18x zoom looks promising...
Questions: do u hv any recommendation on software to convert .mov to DVD?
Thanks,
Goboxe
Congratulations on your purchase. I am sure will enjoy the camera as much as I have. Concerning the converting software, I too had to find a program to convert video so I could use my video editing software. I found a company called AVS4you that is in the UK. They have created a wide range of programs for audio and video needs. With any program purchase you are given unlimited downloads to all of their software. You can join for a year or a lifetime. I use their audio and video converter and their video editor. Check it out at:
www.avs4you.com. Look forward to sharing pics with you.
Val
check this out and you will find the best camera,
popphoto.com/cameras/4836/s... regards,
upendra sharma
digitalcamera-hq.com/digita...
i dont have any idea regarding the canon s5, as far as i know about fz18 is there is nothing wrong if you go for 18x zoom.the picture is fine no issue at all.but sometime i used to take by putting extended zoom that is more then 18x.(i.e. there are some options which we can put the zoom more then 18X, like 5M EZ, you can zoom upto 23X, and if you put 3M EZ you can extended the zoom into 28.7X
when i take in 28.7X i dont find blur and picture quality is still fine. so if you taking by putting 18X there is nothing wrong picture is very clear and there is nothing wrong.I like to suggest that you can go for the FZ18.
here you will find some comparison regarding the zoom.check it out.
popphoto.com/cameras/4836/s... luck,
upendra
Please see the major comparison areas below (the Olympus SP-570 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ) is listed first in each case).
- Resolution: 10MP vs 8.1MP
The higher resolution at this level will only make a real difference when cropping and printing poster size prints
- Optical zoom: 20x vs 18x
Depending on the widest angle, this could result in a couple hundred mm difference.
- ISO Range: 64-6400 vs 100-1600
While the higher resolution will cause more "noise" or graininess to show in the photos, you will get better photographs in low light situations. This could be huge if you don't like using a flash all the time.
Both of these cameras have image stabilization, which is nice to have in an extended zoom lens to avoid camera shake, and advanced settings. While the extra settings are nice on the Olympus SP-570 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ), you have to see if the extra $150(+) price tag is within your budget. Good luck and happy shooting.
Andrew
You are right about the testing. If you can wait a month or two before purchasing, there should be some more decent reviews on the technical quality of the camera. If you don't want to wait, and you narrow it down to you other two choices, I would go with the Panasonic FZ18 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ). It is a newer camera than the two year old FZ50 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ) and has much more optical zoom 18x vs 12x. While you do get the higher resolution and ISO range in the FZ50 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ), you won't get the 2 years of technological advances.
As for your battery questions, I've used both lithium ions and AA rechargeables and like both. I keep plenty of charges spares with me when I shoot, so I don't really worry about it that much. Good luck and happy shooting.
Andrew
Andrew
olympus-imaging.jp/product/...
While the digital zoom does add extra options, you will find it degrades your resolution. You can get the same results by cropping on your computer.
Andrew
I'm in the same delima as George but i guess i will settle for the Panasonic FZ18 as i find the zoom of Lumix FZ18 much better in comparison than the Olympus SP570...i may be wrong.....
I assume by limited, you mean recording time. The answer is no, as long as you have memory you can record. The only real limitation is, that you canNOT zoom while recording. The video quality and sound are wonderful, but I am disappointed that I canNOT zoom. Hope this helps.
Val
Usually when the movie length is limited, it is due to memory space. Try a larger memory card! Some Cameras only allow you to shoot short video clips, look in your manual to see what the length of time your camera allows for video. Good Luck, I think this is what you meant with this question. I hope this helps.
Larry
From reviews I've read and people I've spoken with, the Kodak cameras aren't always the best choice for quality and lasting. Besides, the features on the Panasonic FZ18 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ) seem to be a lot nicer. You have more resolution with 8.1 megapixels vs 5.0, almost twice the optical zoom at 18x vs 10x, and a wider ISO range of 100-1600 instead of 80-400.
The higher resolution will get you more detailed photos, the optical zoom advantage will get you that much closer to your subject without loss of resolution from digital zoom, and the higher ISO range will help the camera perform better in low light situations (higher ISO does cause a little more graininess in the photos, but that can be corrected with software). All and all, the Panasonic FZ18 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ) is a much better choice in my opinion. Good luck and happy shooting.
Andrew
You can actually order it online from at least six different stores in the upper right corner of this page. I hope this helps.
Andrew
internal memory wont be sufficent if u want to record for long time.what i put
in my fz18 is 4 gb,SDHC,(external memory)with this i can record upto 5 hours
video and about 800 still photo.it is better u put SDHC(high speed)memory card this will
be good for taking video,if u put normal SD card then i dont think it will give you good picture
when you put movie mode.
internal memory wont be sufficent if u want to record for long time.what i put
in my fz18 is 4 gb,SDHC,(external memory)with this i can record upto 5 hours
video and about 800 still photo.it is better u put SDHC(high speed)memory card this will
be good for taking video,if u put normal SD card then i dont think it will give you good picture
when you put movie mode.
Video and sound quality are great even with a normal SD card and as stated before your only limitation is the amount of memory you have. Just remember you canNOT zoom while recording. BUMMER! But I do love the quality of the video anyway.
Val
Also, does anyone know if I need a circular or linear polarizer?
Any suggestions on where to get a good deal on the filters?
According to the manual, there is a lens adapter available and a close-up lens, an MC protector filter, and a ND filter available. I think any lenses made for the F series cameras will work. The strange thing is, that the numbers listed in the manual do not match their website. I also was able to find some filter kits on Amazon and Ebay that claim they fit, but until I can actually find the specifications, I will hold off ordering anything. I have to say I agree with James though about doing stuff in post production. I wouldn't mind finding a light ring that work with this camera though, for better macro shots.
Hope this helps,
Val
I am currently using an Olympus 740.
Thanks!
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
I would go with the Olympus SP-560 UZ ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ). The 18x zoom will make a huge difference over a 12x zoom camera, and it also has an amazing ISO range. Being able to shoot down to 50 for amazing contrast, and up to 3200 for low light settings is a great option. The manual exposure ability is also a great feature. This camera will give you great flexibility and you should be used to the user interface since it should be similar to your current camera. Good luck and happy shooting.
Andrew
How does the Olympus SP-560 compare to the Panasonic FZ-18?
Thanks
Greg
I'm sorry if I wasn't clear enough in my first answer. I feel that the Olympus SP-560 UZ ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ) is a better choice over the Panasonic FZ18 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ), for what I would use it for. The wider range of ISO settings (50-3200 vs 100-1600) makes the camera more versatile in low light settings (higher ISO), as well as capturing great color contrast (lower ISO). Please let us know if you have any other questions.
Andrew
Thanks for your input.
I have not been able to locate a Panasonic FZ-18 to lay hands on. But , I have had a chance to hold and play with a 560 and the S5IS.
Greg
I'm glad we could help. Please come back with any more questions.
Andrew
I don't know what ebay India AD is referring to, but it is not possible on this camera. The FZ18 does NOT allow you to zoom in and out once you have started recording. You must set the zoom before you press record button. I am very sad that this is not available, but I tell myself it is not a movie camera, but a great still camera. Low light is very good if you choose the right settings, or manual adjust properly. Low light video is very good also.
Hope this helps,
Val
The included software comes in both pc and mac formats so no problem there. I have only used this software when for the RAW format pics I have taken. I usually just shoot in jpg format and use a card reader to download to pc, then use editing software when needed. The camera also does all of its mpgs in Quick Time which is standard for your mac. Your new Mac probably came with built in card readers so no problem there either. The only time you would be downloading from the camera would be for the built in memory, which since it is so small and holds so few high pixel pics I rarely use it. Anyway I don't see a problem on any front for you, and congrats on your new MacBook.
Hope this helps,
Val
I couldn't imagine that there would have been a problem but I had to ask. With my luck I would have purchased this great camera and had trouble viewing the pictures on my Mac. I wonder why the Mac OS X system is no listed in the details as with other cameras I researched. Thanks again for your help. Diane
3) from that diameter to 42mm OR for a direct tube 23.5mm insert with locking screw Anyone able to advise and tell me where I can buy the necessary? thanks Vic
I assume that you are asking for an adapter for the FZ18. According to the Meiji website at this time they only have adapters for the Fz7, 10, 15, and 20 which are not at all the same as the 18. I am afraid that the camera may be too new unless you can find another camera with same size adapter ring.
Val
Comparing the two, I don't see much difference in quality except that the H9 seems to give a more natural look. If you take alot of macro shots, however, the H9 is also the way to go as the FZ18 seems to suffer from barrelling at those close up ranges.
I am a little confused as to which camera you are comparing with the DMC-FZ18. The DMC-FZ18 is the model number and the letter K only indicates that the case is black instead of silver. As to your other questions. I am sure with the camera at its highest settings and with a clean clear shot that you could print 16 x 20. The pixels are there, but as you know, the condition of the particular picture would indicate how well it would enlarge without pixelation or aberation. If you were to zoom in all the way to 18 power under not so great light or maybe not on a tripod you probably would not want to blow that up to that size. So far I am very impressed with the quality of pictures, both indoors and out. I do wish we could post pics here so as to show you. When I have my shots uploaded to my photo site I will post link so you can see them. I am still learning the tricks of the camera and have a lot more to learn so that I will consistently get great pics. But for now I am really enjoying this level of quality and manual and auto control without having to drag around a big DSLR. The 28mm wide lens with the 18X zoom is great for nature and wildlife shoots. This is really one to consider. Hope this helps.
Val
The FZ18 takes pretty decent low-light shots as long as there is an adequate amount of light compared to the zoom you're at (more zoom needs more light). Here's an example of a lower-light shot you could expect: flickr.com/photos/10360406@... only problem the FZ18 really has is ISO800 and higher, because of the noise reduction software it utilizes (VENUS III). It's a great camera, but if you want it compared to something else, let me know. For now, you can look through more pictures at www.flickr.com and search for any camera you'd like. :)
I saw this question too, but since Bryan never gave us any camera info I figured he was just a troll making a joke out of the night life of these cities. I have been very happy with the FZ18 performance as I was with the TZ3 for night light pics. Using the scene setting for party or stage light and it does a remarkable job. I am still just getting familiar with my new FZ18 so I will be posting a review when I know more.
Bryan,
We are here to help each other out with our camera questions and concerns so if you give us more info we will be glad to help you.
Val
I'd put them in this order, #1 being best, of course.
1. Fuji S8000fd
2. Olympus SP-560UZ
3. Panasonic FZ18
4. Sony H9
Keep in mind, there's not much separating these cameras in low-light... to get a good low-light shooter you'll need a dSLR with good aperture lens. These cameras are all going to have trouble above ISO400. I would put #1 and #2 close to a near tie, and the only reason the Panasonic is #3 is because I don't like how their noise reduction software works. Will the average person notice a difference? Probably not. Will there be a big distinction on 4x6" prints? No one will notice.
I wonder if you've seen Popphoto's review of the three 18x zoom. Image, optics, performance, lab test, etc. Go ahead check it out. popphoto.com/cameras/4836/s... You'll be surprised how your 1 and 2 doesn't come close to your FZ18 in almost ALL respect except weight and handling. Most FZ18 owners know this. You should.
Also check digitalcamerainfo.com. Click on "camera rankings" for non dlsr/point and shoot category. And you'll be proud to see 2007 Rubrics rating and who's at #1.
I need your expertise since it's obvious that you folks know your stuff and I'm just a newby in all this. Of the 4 rated by Matt,
1. Fuji s8000fd
2. Olympus SP-560UZ
3. Panasonic FZ18
4. Sony H9
Which of these would be better at action shot? And if none are particularly good, which point and shoot would you recommend for a mom who takes pics of kids skiing and at dance?
Thanks for your help!
The reason the Z18 has a '?' instead of a letter grade is because it is very new. If you hover over the '?' you'll see that it does not have many user reviews. Obviously, that's because it's not been available for very long.
DCHQ will reserve grades on new cameras until enough information is available to make a sound and accurate judgment.
I have to say though, if Panasonic's previous extended zoom cameras, the FZ18 is probably going to be an excellent camera, and if you like Panasonic better than Canon in general, I think you should feel comfortable in ordering the FZ18. Besides, the FZ18 goes all the way to 18x zoom, while the Canon S5 IS only goes to 15x!
I will echo camera?'s statement about the newness of this model. I have only had mine a couple of weeks and not many people have had a chance to use and rate this yet. So far I love it. I can't speak for the Canon as I have not had one of those, yet I can say that the 18X zoom has been a real blast and all of the manual settings I can do has been a great upgrade from the TZ3. Since I do a lot of theater shoots, I needed a camera with a viewfinder so I would not have the LCD on distracting the audience. I am still learning the ropes, but so far have had great fun with nature, theater, portrait, and zoom shots. I got mine at Costco for less than anyone on line and it came with camera case and a 2GB card and a sunshield. I will be posting more later.
Val
Thank you meveetu for posting information that was helpful Appreciate it.
Jim
Thanks for the points, but I am sorry I didn't really answer the question. You are right about the ratings being posted before the camera has actually had a chance to be rated. I too have thought that when researching different cameras. I am not sure where the advisor board gets its numbers unless it just has to do with the number of posting compared to those other cameras. Like the TZ3 was similar until it was out for awhile and had become very popular in the q & a section. I am hoping this will happen in time with the FZ18 as I really do love this camera.
About the zoom, it is fantastic. I am planning to post some pics that I have taken to show the extent and clarity of the zoom. Using only the optical zoom so far I am able to take incredible pictures of Mt. Shasta and then zoom in on them on the computer and see detail that is amazing. I do with this website would make posting pics possible so as not to need to link to another site. I will let you know when I have them available.
Thanks again,
Val
Is the Facial recognition feature worth the difference (FZ8 and FZ18)?
Color saturation is great! Took some of the initial photos at the San Diego Red Bull Air Races; good stop action even at 18X zoom. When one of the planes "took out a pylon", blow-ups showed clearly the individual workers and could even read "Honda" on the outboard motor -- from a distance of a little over 2000' (~0.4 miles).
This is a hard one to answer, since the camera is new on the market. I haven't been able to get my hands on one at all, but I did check out some of the reviews from their unveiling show. My only comment could be that if it is anything like my TZ3 it should do great for your indoor shots. The wide angle lens has been very useful for capturing more up close and personal. The high ISO means you don't always have to rely on flash. I found with the TZ3 I am unable to adjust the strength of the flash so if my subject is too close the picture is much to bright and the shadows created are unaceptable. Solution, a bit of frosted scotch tape over flash or no flash just change settings for lighting situation. The FZ18 does have flash levels which make it more useful in these situations. If you are only going to print up to 8x10 you won't have any resolution problems. I have only encountered graininess when zoomed in all the way without sufficient light. I too love the H9 and finally got my hands on one for just a few minutes last weekend. I have been a Sony diehard for years and really wanted that camera. I found that I could zoom in movie mode but if too fast it went out of focus. I don't think I want to give up the 28mm lens for this and I surely don't want to pay that much more money for it either. Cost is a big factor. FZ18 is a lot of camera for the price.
val
Thanks for the info. THe H9 seemed to have a longer flash range in the specs but I really do like all the features of the FZ18. The 28mm is really nice and at about $100 less, seems like a good buy. I'm starting to see some sample shots posted by users and they seem to be pretty sharp, even though there's a lot of talk of too much softening. I'm sure it will do better indoors versus my old Optio555. I'll give it a try.
Bert
I own the DSC-H9 and while it is an excellent camera in my opinion, it compresses the files way too much resulting in soft images. I actually had this camera and returned it for the Canon S5 IS which is more hands off and includes features such as custom mode and a custom button that I really like. It is very easy to use. However, the Sony takes some really nice pics too if you don't analyze the image at 100% and even then some of them are good. However, the file is so compressed, there is very little wiggle room for editing. But I wanted it. I like the long flash range and the night vision. But, I will likely use the Sony more for candids.
The Panasonic F18 looks awesome with a long zoom range and does not suffer from purple fringing. With digital zooming I think it goes over 100X, not that i recommend digital zooming. Cool feature though. The sony tops out at 30X and the Canon at 48X.
Though I have not used the F18, based on specs, I would opt for the F18 over the Sony DSC-H9 for the better lens, finer control over compression & RAW capabilities.
Sony DSC-H9 users should inundate Sony with demands to issue a software update that allows the end user to set the default level of compression.
The sony output is rich, vibrant and well exposed - just too compressed and too soft. They should add a fine and superfine mode to the standard mode they save in now.
Anyhow, since I will probably not be able to restrain myself for next years models (which I should do), I see the F18 in my near future.
The reason being that 18X and 12X are the maximum zoom available, while you can also set it to the minimum zoom/ wide angle to take pictures as close as 0.1m-∞ (wide), 1.2m-∞ (tele) or 1cm closest focus (super macro) in the case of Olympus 550UZ.
In between, you can use any intermediate zoom to compose your picture, whether it is 10 meters away, 20 meters away and so on.
So 18X zoom does not bind you to using the full zoom power and there is no fixed distances that you have to follow to take your pictures.
Tom
Since there is no (fixed lens) camera that offers that degree of magnification, you would need to use digital zoom, or crop the photo later in a photo editor program. In both cases, you would be reducing the resolution of the photo (number of pixels), and if printed at 24 x 20 inches, it's possible that you would begin to notice the pixels in the image. To minimize this, I recommend you consider one of the new 18x zoom cameras ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ) such as the Panasonic Lumix FZ18 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ). I have the LZ3, which is a 10x zoom camera and have found it an exceptionally good camera. This would be a case where having a camera with more than 8 or so megapixels could make a difference.
The answer is NO. I have the TZ3 that just came out and I love this cameras video quality, but the fact that I can't zoom while recording has been a major disappointment. I thought if I upgraded to the FZ18 that it would include this ability only I couldn't find out if it had it for sure at the website so I called their tech department. It took 3 different people and several minutes on hold before the technician told me that this camera also does not have zoom capability while recording. I'm bummed. I know I really need to have a separate camcorder because these cams weren't made for that particularly, but we can always hope. Anyway, I am sure that part of it is the noise generated by the zoom which would be on the recording and like in other cameras they would then choose to have the sound not record while zooming, that wouldn't be a very good option either so I guess we will just have to live with it. Other than that the TZ3 is a great cam and I am seriously thinking about upgrading to the FZ18 for the super zoom. Hope this helps.
Val
So, every point and shoot is going to have shutter lag. The good news is that a recent article in the news stated that Camera makers are considering placing the more advanced SLR chips into their point and shoot lines so that shutter lag will be a thing of the past. This feature will probably emerge in about a year or two.
Now, onto your exact issue. Here's the times for the Canon G7:
Power-on Time 1.5 sec
Shutter Lag,
Full Autofocus 0.540 - 0.550 sec
Prefocused 0.073 sec
Shot to Shot time 1.54 sec
Continuous Speed 1.59 fps
Sadly, the Lumix FZ18 is a little to new to know what the actual lag times are, but previews state that the lag time has been reduced from previous models.
Regardless of what you end up buying, here are some other ways you can reduce your lag time:
1. Prefocus. Hold down the shutter half way to get a prefocus of the image you're shooting. When it changes, prefocus again. This will speed up your camera's performance during picture taking since it won't have to autofocus before it shoots the shot.
2. Use faster SD cards. Yes, there are faster cards and it does make a difference in writing the image file to the card. This is especially key if you're taking multiple or burst images.
3. Fresher batteries. Use alkalines at least. But I recommend using high energy batteries designed for digital photography. Varta is a good brand. They are usually sold in camera shops, are long lasting (because they are sold in small quantities) put out alot of energy.
4. Shoot in "sports" modes when you're in situations that require action. Night or available light modes when in night time settings. These presets can help in speeding up your shots, rather than the camera taking a split second to evaluate the conditions of the lighting.
5. Go manual. If you are manually focusing, particularly in darker settings, you can constantly refocus the image as things happen. Also, the infrared does have a range and if your image is out of that range you can end up with the camera's "best guess" or infinity setting which may not help. You can also go manual on fstops and shutter speeds as well, getting more light faster when you choose.
6. Go with a shallow depth of field.
7. Pan with the action. You can create some pretty cool shots by panning with your shot, focusing on your subject. This will create the effect of your subject in sharp contrast to the blurry background.
8. Use a flash - even in day time. This will "freeze" the image and cause your subject to "pop" in the shot. However, flash is only designed for limited range and can dissipate outside of about 20-25 feet unless you're using a zoomable flash.
9. Stick with 100-400 ISO. Going higher will cause more noise/grain in your shots, particularly in darker settings.
I've heard that Lumix cameras have too much noise above ISO 200, but don't know if the FZ18 is better or how it stacks up to the G7 in that respect. Has Leica's good name been co-opted to market mediocre technology?
Also have heard that compact digital "superzooms" tend to suck at the telephoto end. How can so little glass give a good quality image over such a long range? Too good to be true?
Also wondering if that pop-up flash on the FZ18 his high enough to avoid red-eye, compared to flashes built into the camera body such as the G7. i.e., Is it worth factoring this feature into my decision.
If the FZ18 lives up to its promises, is it still not as good as the G7 because it has 8mp vs. the G7's 10mp? I recognize that cramming in MP doesn't always yield superior image quality. How much does the mp difference impact image quality when comparing these two particular cameras?
I know it's a bit soon to answer definitively about the FZ 18 since it's not on the shelf yet, but any specifically relevant information would be helpful!
You've probably noticed that there were a few performance hits on the upgrade from the G6 to the G7. I think there will be less problems and more improvements on the FZ18, even though that's purely forward-thinking.
The 8MP vs 10MP dilemma is a non-issue. On the short range of the zoom, the G7 will likely have better red-eye reduction, but that's almost a non-issue as well, with how easy it is to fix in post-processing software.
My thoughts are that anything over ISO400 will start creating noise problems because of the Venus noise-reduction software in the FZ18. But what's really nice is the ability to film in RAW mode. That'll help the situation out. I don't think the Leica brand has been ruined by Panasonic's model.
You are right, there will most likely be barrel distortion at the 15-18x zoom range on the FZ18, but I think it will only be noticeable if you crop at the edges. For all intents, the average picture won't be visible.
I'm excited for the FZ18. I don't know how much it will cost, and I'm sure the G7 will have slightly better image quality (Canon lenses are still better lenses, sorry :)), but the FZ18 will bring a lot of new things to the party.
I'd also personally go with the G6 vs. the G7. But that's probably just me :)
Good luck.
Most pictures you take - and I mean 99% of them will fall between 100 and 400 ISO/ASA.
Initially, liked the S5IS of that bunch. Image stabilization, a host of other features. However, it's running into continued image and lens artifacting problems which is turning users off of it.
The SD850 gets very high marks. Great performance and image quality; solid image stabilization; face detection. Rates an 8 out of 10.
It's a little too early to have an opinion of the FZ18.
Here's another option - I am currently testing the Olympus SP-550UZ ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ) and have so far been quite pleased with the results. 7.1 MP, 18x zoom, image stabilization and some great scene based program features including a 15fps burst mode. This is great for sports photography.
Now some will argue that the 15fps burst mode only allows for about 1.2 mp. I think it's better than that. But even so, it will do for snapshots no larger than 4x6, and you still get that action shot. For full res, it does have a 3 fps burst mode as well.
It also has in camera editing features such as cropping, sepia and black/white alerations, nite modes, super macro mode for REALLY close up shots, panoramic guides for shooting multiple shots to stitch into a panorama, even a mode for shooting documents.
I'm really enjoying it. If I had to complain, however, I have found the menu structure wanting and difficult to use on the fly. But other than that, it's a top notch camera.
A tripod is still recommended at high zoom.
There is a very good report of FZ8 <a href="dpreview.com/reviews/panaso... location</a> with respect to image stabilization and how far you can go without getting blur pictures.
You may wish to compare the three charts presented in the page to get an idea.
I am having so much fun with the 10X zoom on my TZ3 that I really can't wait to see what the FZ18 can do. The image stabilization in my camera has been great at full zoom. I can only imagine it being even better with the FZ18 as it is a bigger camera and perhaps easier for me to hold it still. As always though when practical a tripod will help, but I still just grab this cam and shoot and get great shots.
Most digital still cameras, however, don't allow any zooming at all while recording. Or if they do, you lose the audio.
remember, this is first and foremost a still camera with video added for marketing/convenience reasons. If video is your prime concern, you may be better off getting a video camera which also shoots digital stills. the quality is getting much better with these and some have mp ratings around 6mp and save to an SD card.
James is right, you cannot use the zoom once you have started recording. I found this to be a bit disappointing since the video quality is so great, it would be nice to be able to zoom too. I did here rumors of a possible firmware fix, but my inquiry to Panasonic resulted in an absolute NO plans for this.
Like James said, it is, afterall a still camera first and foremost. And a great one at that!!
Val
I hve been monitoring ur communications and thought would encroach in. well, me too a foto entu! I was using the FZ10 and was looking out for an upgrade. Dont wana SLR coz of its size and price. well, to add up my confusion, i hd a lot o options in this market. FZ50 is one, but size isnt worth, and the 2" LCD. FZ7 & 8, is no better than fz10. Another one is Olympus 18X, but, the focusing and the picture clarity is not rely satisfactory. well, Sony... is good @ electronics, not @ cameras. so'r'y. Unfortunate that Nikon does not want to make any cameras that fit my budget, and my requirements, the S10 though amazing! i liked the way S6500FD works, its style, user friendliness, but the tele 300mm isn’t enough. S8000FD has not yet arrived in our Dubai market. I was about to finalize on S5 IS, which i found to be great. i liked the picture clarity, the focus. the 180 deg tilt-2.5 LCD is amazing. its stylish. after all its canon!
I was always looking out for more zoom with my preferred features, thanks to the new FZ18. I like it because, its Lumix. I would say, Lumix is one o the best in the market. U wud only know this after seeing its great pictures. The OIS is good, auto focus is good. Macro is amazing. The intelligent auto stuff too is amazing.
Folks, my primary concern about a camera is its portrait mode, those blurs the back ground after focusing the subject. I am also intersted in ultra zoom. Well, here are my concerns:
1. Can you guys recommend me the best option of the above mentioned cameras??? fz18??????
2. Every manufacturer boasts about their ‘face detection’ ‘image stabilization’ and the like. Does that really make a cam unique from the other? Or are they one at the same?
3. How about the ultra zoom? Will i hv issues with 18x zoom in the future, since thers lot of mechanical stuff involved in it?? will 18x consume more power?
4. Isnt AA batteries better than lithium ion?
5. Which camera focuses the subject the best in portrait mode (after blurring the background)?
6. Which camera flash is the best? What is the max distance?
7. which is the best in sports fotography?
Thanks to any help. Vicky (milkechalo@rediffmail.com)
Since you are well versed with the features and shortcomings of each, I think it's going to come down to which one you like personally. it may just come down to what camera feels good in your hand. Go to a local camera store and check both out side by side, holding them, feeling their center of gravity, the balance. How it sits in your hand. That usually sells me one way or the other.
You also want a camera that will grow with you, allow you to always push the envelope of your skill with it. Otherwise, you may end up with just an expensive point and shoot.
2. Every manufacturer boasts about their ‘face detection’ ‘image stabilization’ and the like. Does that really make a cam unique from the other? Or are they one at the same?
This feature isn't that compelling to me at this point. It's a new feature. As it matures, it will become a much more useful feature. But for now, it is what it is. I know that isn't much of an answer, but I tend to wait until the bugs are shook out of a new technology and it matures to the point of overall usefulness.
3. How about the ultra zoom? Will i hv issues with 18x zoom in the future, since thers lot of mechanical stuff involved in it?? will 18x consume more power?
Well, I suppose you could say that an 18x zoom will consume more power than say a 10x zoom simply because it zooms further. But I think the difference in power usage is neglible in comparison to the issues of camera shake that will occur at the further end of the optical spectrum.
4. Isnt AA batteries better than lithium ion?
AAs have gotten much more powerful lately. 2500s are VERY powerful. They are designed for the high capacity usage of electronics like digital cameras.
5. Which camera focuses the subject the best in portrait mode (after blurring the background)?
My argument here is that which photographer is focusing best in portrait mode. You want the shot, take charge of the focusing. Prefocusing will help.
6. Which camera flash is the best? What is the max distance?
It's important to understand that flash for a camera like this is fairly limited. It is designed mostly for portraits and group shots and it's max distance is really not much beyond about 6-10 feet before the dissipation gets dramatic.
7. which is the best in sports photography?
I think both will work equally as well, particularly on it's presets. And if you are prefocusing and panning with the action, then you should be able to go with either. However, I'd give the edge to the Canon thanks to it's DIGIC processor. YMMV.
thanks so much for ur sincere efforts to answer my queries. do appreciate! i got most of my queries answered. well, i too agree that
1. U NEED A CAMERA THAT GROWS WITH YOU
2. TECHNOLOGY MATURE OVER TIME
3. THE BEST METHOD TO FINALIZE YOUR CAMERA IS TO GOTO A LOCAL STORE, HOLD THE CAM, FEEL ITS CENTRE OF GRAVITY :)
4. BEST FOTOS ARE A PERFECT BLEND OF GOOD CAMERA AND A CREATIVE FOTOGRAPHER
thanks a bunch! luv from VICKY (Anand Kumar)
BTW - George! I noticed that you haven't marked any replies as the "best answer." Are you still looking for an answer? If so, I recommend you re-submit it on digitalcamera-hq.com so it will have a better chance of being noticed. These days it looks like most questions are being answered within a few days.
If you're happy with the answer you received, you can simply click on "Mark for best answer" bubble and it will close out the question. Thanks for posting it and Good luck!
Just checked on amazon.com. This camera will not be on sale until Oct 20.
I have been reading all of the press releases and the camera is supposed to be available in Sept, but no idea who will have it by then. Amazon is the only one taking presales right now. I really think I want this camera, but hate that I have to wait so long.
Val
I got mine at Costco a couple of weeks ago for 379.00 and it came with camera bag and shun shield and a 2GB card for that price. I am still learning all of the tricks, but so far I love this camera. I returned my TZ3 which I was enjoying to get this camera because it has an optical viewfinder as well as LCD. I will be writing a review soon, but so far it has been great for my theatrical shoots and for portraits. Can't wait to learn all the other things I can do with it.
Val
Thanks for the info. I live in England. Will check out our local Costco soon.
I'll look forward to reading your review.
I just bought mine online last night.
write me on my aim or yahoo if it changes there are a few more sites I use that no one knows about.
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Panasonic Lumix FZ18 Reviews
Panasonic Lumix FZ18 Reviews by Digital Camera-HQ Users
- 4.0 out of 5
The manual focusing joystick is too inconvenience. If Panasonic design the manual focus by means of focusing ring at the lens and improve the high ISO clarity will make this camera perfect. Overall, a very good cemera if you are looking at AF and bright (daylight) photography.
- 5.0 out of 5
Easy to use, true value for money.
- 5.0 out of 5
easy to use, great price, great camera
- 5.0 out of 5
I bought this camera for a trip to Europe. A friend on the trip quickly regretted the size of his SLR, and the versatility of my camera quickly stole the show. You are able to get the good shots without changing lenses. Not quite the quality of an SLR, but pretty darn close! I have ordered some filters and can't wait to try them out. Love, love, love my camera!
- 5.0 out of 5
While I have only had this camera 5 weeks I have given it a healthy workout most notably having my daughter-in-law use it to shoot 240 pictures at our youngest daughter's wedding. Some of the shots were up-close and some were long distance shots (more than 30 ft). The resulting pictures were outstanding in picture quality (image resolution)...stunning actually. The optical zoom was so smooth and accurate that distance and lighting from the target did not affect the picture quality. Even in low light conditions the picture quality was good. Had my daughter-in-law used the built-in flash to shoot the low-light pictures, the results would also have been excellent. My daughter-in-law had not used the camera before our wedding... which illustrates the ease of use and intuitive nature of the camera. At one of my grandson's baseball games I took an action shot of him as he swung at the baseball using the optical zoom. I was about 55 -60 feet away. I sent the image to Walmart using their online photo center and asked for an 8 X 10 image. The resulting image was of professional quality. The picture captured the baseball just inches from the bat in exacting detail and color. Even the digital movies I took with the camera turned-out highly acceptable. I can't imagine a better producing camera.
- 5.0 out of 5
Fun-tastic time with this beauty....feels good just holding it....the zoom works wonderfully and the iA is great for quick shots....the best feature (for me) is the movie mode...wow....so much sharper and clearer than my JVC video cam...m still trying to discover the other functions of the cam....simply wow!!! Great buy, no regrets .....
- 5.0 out of 5
I like this camera. I love to shoot raw pics, and so far this camera has done everything I needed it to do.
- 4.0 out of 5
Got my FZ18 late last year. Was kinda disaappointed for a while with the pics that I got until I learned the necessary tweaks and
adjustments for best results. Now I'm enjoying the camera a lot and can see a whole lot of potential in it....what with it's numerous manual options and programmed scene modes. The iA works wonders as well specially for not so easy situations where time for adjustments may not be too short to get the shot at the right time. All that being said, if only it had a much larger sensor as the FZ50, super CCD's of Fuji, or the A640 and G9 by Canon, then t6his would have been a perfect PnS that is all around and very versatile. For now, as long as I keep within ISO200 and below, I should get great pictures. 400s and 800s may have to be very selective and can use a noise PP software (Noiseninja, Neatimage...). Tried neatimage and it sure gives me great looking pics at 400ISO.
Could have given it an excellent if not for that.
- 5.0 out of 5
First off let me say that I am not a professional photographer but I do like photography as a hobby. I have had mostly small point and shoot Canon Power shot series cameras that have performed well, but this Panasonic FZ-18 is entirely in another league. I can now take shots that I could only dream of before and it has opened up a whole other world in photography to me. The zoom on this is really incredible.
Most of my photography is done outdoors and the zoom is great to capture birds or other forms of wildlife.
I think the battery life is very good. The image stabilization works great, and if you are the type that likes to change settings this camera makes it easy with the joystick they provide on the back of the camera. If you rather stay in auto mode the Intelligent Auto also takes some very good pictures as well.
If you are looking to move up in class from a smaller point and shoot and want a camera with a long reaching zoom, I really feel that you will not be disapointed with this one !
- 5.0 out of 5
This camera went on a trip to Italy and Greece, and I got amazing pictures without the flash and the zoom is incredible. NO shake even at the longest zoom with no tripod, just hand held. I have 2 complaints however, the battery life is short, only 2 1/2 hours, you must carry an additional charged one if out for the day. I much prefer the AA lithium, they last forever! The other complaint is the LCD screen is very vulnerable, a frame around it would help to protect it from nicks. I recently took pictures at a concert, from the 6th row, no fllash and they are super!
- 5.0 out of 5
I run an award winning hyperlocal web site and I use the Lumix FZ - series cameras exclusively to produce video. Yes I said video. I have a handful of FZ 7's and one FZ 18 and I loan out the FZ 7's to students and others... they are rugged.
These cameras are less 'intrusive' than other video cameras and their 848x480 progressive video has more resolution than the three chip $2,000 "DV" cameras I've retired.
My experience with them is they get the job done whether it is in the field in demanding (low) light or in the studio where I used them to capture video for green screen production.
I use the still image capability of this camera to supplement video by snapping shots for the 'b-roll' . Even as a drive-by shooting ... these camera get the shot.
Are they perfect? No.
Probably the most common thing you'll hear about these cameras is the graininess of the images when the chip is pushed to ISO 400 - 3200. First, it is not that much worse than other cameras (but not as good as a full DSLR which actually have a larger CMOS chip which means it is kind of like the difference between shooting a large format camera and a 35mm). Anyway, the graininess is not an issue for me. Heck in the heyday of news photography, the use of a 35mm Tri-X pushed to 3200 was sure to get you an even grainier print in black and white than these cameras give. As most of my content is for web-distribution (final image sizes are rarely larger than 848x480) the grain just gives the images a news-ambience. (I've taken photos that defy capture at all such as a car that ran into a house in a dark subdivision ... the image of the car resting against the gas-meter lighted only by a firefighter's flashlight.)
Next to the video capability, the best thing about this is the wide angle view available with the notoriously sharp Leica lens. (The lens is why I first bought these cameras ... cause in photography, it is all about the lens.)
I'm one of those folks who believes the cardinal rule of photography is to get close. With the 28mm (35mm eq.) wide angle setting, this camera obliges.
The things I don't come from a little confusion over placement of controls between the FZ7 and FZ18 ... I find myself setting the camera to manual focus too easily.
The history of the industry is that years is a good active life for a digital camera before obsolescence but what most folks have not realized is that the field is actually getting pretty mature. With 8 megapixels and the lens this baby has, it will be a workhorse for several years. These cameras are light but rugged and promise to be long-term, a good investment.
Indeed, it is going to take improved video in the next series to move me to the next level 'cause I'm quite happy with the FZ18 and even FZ7/FZ8 as they stand. How would one improve the video? Well it is going to take more than the base 720p HD at 15fps to move me ... the resolution is fine but come on, we want full 30fps HD video.
Oh an one more thing, give us a way to put a remote mic a person with this camera.
- 5.0 out of 5
Color saturation very true-to-life w/o adjustment; OIS provides steady shots even at 18X zoom; "28mm" wide angle shots; high resolution LCD (bright) for focusing OR EVF w/diopter adjustment that really lets you view & adjust focus.
Has face technology & Li-ion battery. SD & SDHC. Great intelligent photo setup, but one which easily allows manual override
- 4.0 out of 5
well i've only had the camera for about a week and I like the sharpness of the pictures. I still haven't read the manual because we got it one day before my husband went on a trip and even though he probably doesn't even know what megapixles mean he took some really nice shots on the inteligent auto mode. The only thing is that we probably got a camera with so many options we'll never use. I kind of regret not getting the fuji 700 or the kodak 712 since reviews say how easy they are to use. I would recomend this camera for someone who's knowlege is more advanced when it comes to cameras. But i do like the zoom and quality of pictures, even though I have the shakiest hands. I know eventually I'll get use to all the settings (so many) and i'll get the hang of it for now i'll stick to auto. I still have to see if it can take pictures of children and animals at the zoo that don't stay still I'll let you know
