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Panasonic Lumix FZ8
Editor's Review
The Panasonic Lumix FZ8 offers a powerful 12x optical zoom lens in a highly portable and comfortable body. The FZ8 allows for a level of photography that approaches professional-level SLRs without requiring users to fuss with extra lenses and enormous price tags. In short, the FZ8 is great for creative and casual users alike. Panasonic's MEGA Optical Image Stabilization keeps things steady in those long zooms, and the camera also claims to have a shutter lag of only five thousandths of a second.
Specifications
- 7.2 megapixels
- 12x optical zoom / 4x digital zoom
- Panasonic MEGA Optical Image Stabilization
- Auto and manual focus
- Movie mode
- ISO 100-3200
- Auto and manual exposure
- 2.5-inch LCD
- Secure Digital card storage (27MB internal)
- Lithium ion battery
- Part Number: DMCFZ8PK
- UPC: 037988986163
- Release Date: Jan 31, 2007
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Panasonic Lumix FZ8 Comments & Questions (write your own!)
The Manual seems to indicate this can only be added AFTER pictures have been recorded. Many thanks
Thank you.
,
Paulie
I kind of thought that would be the anwser. I paid about 330.00 it's not a bad point and shoot with a good zoom, but certainly not worth over $630.00.
Thanks for your input.
Paulie
Getting the exact same problem: zoom working perfectly, then nothing. Zoom is also not working on "Picture viewing" mode, so I can tell it is nothing mechanical.
Any ideas? Any of you know how to hard-reset?
Another tip is to go to Panasonic's website and look for firmware updates. Download and install them. This should get everything back to normal.
the initial settings at the time of purchase.
- pg. 22 of manual
First of all, this is not a dSLR, so you won't have the interchangeable capabilities with it. That aside, the Leica lens does have a lot of technology and experience to it, so you should have a decent set of glass built in. One thing you might find lacking though is the aperture capability at longer zooms. You won't have as much freedom as you do with a dSLR or your other SLR lenses. The widest angle on this lens is also only 36mm (effective). If you're looking for a wider landscape shot, you'll have to stitch shots together with software later.
While you do have manual focus on this camera, you might find yourself limited because of the points above (especially if you're used to SLRs). If you just want an easier point-and-shoot camera with a decent amount of zoom and a clear lens, this would be a good choice. Good luck and happy shooting.
Andrew
I have four canon lenses from my Canon Rebel XS film camera. They are, EF 22-55mm1:4-5.6 II USM, EF 28-90 mm, 1:4-5.6 II, EF 35-80mm 1:4-5.6 II and a sigma 70-210mm UC Zoom.
I am planning to buy a Canon Rebel XTI, I know the lenses will work. I am just unsure if the quality of the photos with them. Could someone give me advice.
Thank you,
Paulie
I don't suspect that you will have any issues with the quality. I shoot with a Canon XTi ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ) and love the quality through my Canon and Tamron lenses. Canon has taken the time to make sure that they maintain their quality with the move towards digital SLR's.
Andrew
Thanks again,
Paulie
No problem. Please come back with any other issues or questions.
Andrew
And does anyone know if Panasonic will be replacing Their FZ8?
I am a causal picture taker and just learning.
Paulie
panasonic replaced thier fz8 with the fz18
yes the picture quality of these cameras is higher than a non slr
but these camera are for users who have the skills to get the best out of them
the user friendly fz18 is better choice to hone your skills with
I'm sorry, what I meant was is Panasonic replacing the FZ18 with a new model. I think the photos with the FZ8 are very good, But I was wondering if the Canon Rebel Xt, XTI or Nikon D40 would be capable of better Quality Photos. I was hopeing Panasonic was going to use a larger sensor to help with the noise problem in low light and maybe able to use higher ISO.
Thanks,
Paulie
Paulie, I'd certainly recommend either the XTi or the D40 if you're serious about photography as a hobby and want to get in on the ground floor of the DSLR world. The best part is that as you grow in your hobby and get more comfortable with your skills, you can then upgrade to a more manually oriented camera and still enjoy the auto features. And the same lenses would work with the more advanced camera bodies.
Go for it.
Thank you,
Paulie
I do a lot of shooting at our zoo and find the FZ8 takes beautiful pictures outdoors. Is there anything you can suggest when shooting indoors with low light and flash prohibited. I'm new to this and need help.
Thank you,
Paul
I am going to print this up and give it a try. I know there's only so much you can do with the Fz8 as far as low light situations. I really do like this digital camera but I am also trying to decide on a Nikon D40 or a Canon XTI. I have a canon Rebel XS film camera with canon lenses a 22-55mm, 28-90mm, 35-80 and a sigma 70-210 all 4-5.6 and excellent condition. I just am not sure what quality pictures I would get with those lenses and the Digital Canon XTI. Or maybe I should just start all over with the Nikon D40 with their kit lens and their 55-200 VR lens. I'm new to this and need all the help I can get.
Again, Thank you for your information. If you could give me your thoughts on this I would really appreciate it.
Need your help,
Paulie
digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... you had any additional questions or the answer wasn't sufficient enough, just let me know.
I do a lot of shooting at our zoo and find the FZ8 takes beautiful pictures in well lite situations. Is there anything you can suggest when shooting indoors with low light of nocternal amimals or swiming fish and seals. I'm new to this and need help.
Thank you,
Paul
I do a lot of shooting at our zoo and find the FZ8 takes beautiful pictures outdoors. Is there anything you can suggest when shooting indoors with low light and flash prohibited. I'm new to this and need help.
Thank you,
Paul
"1. Prefocus. Hold down the shutter half way to get a prefocus of the image you're shooting. When it changes, prefocus again. This will speed up your camera's performance during picture taking since it won't have to autofocus before it shoots the shot.
2. Use faster SD cards. Yes, there are faster cards and it does make a difference in writing the image file to the card. This is especially key if you're taking multiple or burst images.
3. Fresher batteries. Use alkalines at least. But I recommend using high energy batteries designed for digital photography. Varta is a good brand. They are usually sold in camera shops, are long lasting (because they are sold in small quantities) put out alot of energy.
4. Shoot in "sports" modes when you're in situations that require action. Night or available light modes when in night time settings. These presets can help in speeding up your shots, rather than the camera taking a split second to evaluate the conditions of the lighting.
5. Go manual. If you are manually focusing, particularly in darker settings, you can constantly refocus the image as things happen. Also, the infrared does have a range and if your image is out of that range you can end up with the camera's "best guess" or infinity setting which may not help. You can also go manual on fstops and shutter speeds as well, getting more light faster when you choose.
6. Go with a shallow depth of field.
7. Pan with the action. You can create some pretty cool shots by panning with your shot, focusing on your subject. This will create the effect of your subject in sharp contrast to the blurry background.
8. Stick with 100-400 ISO. Going higher will cause more noise/grain in your shots, particularly in darker settings."
And basically yes (as mentioned here) a faster SD card will help, not make a huge difference, but definitely help.
The largest differences between this camera is the fact that it has a 0.5 inch larger LCD screen and can take interchangeable lenses. With only about a $50 difference, I would see this as an opportunity to go with the H9 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ) in case you want to expand what you can do with your camera. This camera will support more of what you want to do. Good luck and happy shooting.
Andrew
salesman told me the lens was not really Zeiss and I should go with the Panasonic Luminx Z8 instead. now I'm even more confused. He said the Luminx had a better Leica lens.
The H7 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ) is not much different than the H9 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... )(nothing that I can see that warrants a $100 price difference, though its a $50 difference here on DCHQ), and it actually gets better ratings. The H9 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ) does allow for external lens hookups though, which can be nice when trying to do more with your camera.
Both Panasonic and Sony make good cameras. I'd be weary when a salesman tries to steer you in a direction you weren't originally interested in. Many times they are just trying to sell something they're overstocked in. What was the price difference of the camera? The Panasonic FZ8 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ) does not have as much zoom or resolution as the other two cameras, though it may perform better in low light situations. If you like the price, it could be a viable option.
Andrew
The biggest difference between the 2 is that the H9 has a night shot mode. It is pretty signifcant but the photos it takes in this mode look like you took them with night vision goggles on!
If you can live with the lower res screen the H7 is a better buy.
You might try the Panasonic TZ3 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ). It has an amazing 10x optical zoom for a mid-sized camera, and up to 3200 ISO which helps in low light photo taking (it will add some noise to your photos, but it will get the photos to begin with). Based on over 430 reviews, this camera scores at 4.5 out of 5 stars. You may see some reviews on poor indoor quality, but they don't sound like they used the correct lighting balance for the situations they were in. I would still recommend this camera.
Andrew
For the extended zoom that will give you good performance indoors, I would try the Panasonic FZ8 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ). It offers 12x optical zoom to get those long range shots, a high ISO setting for lower light situations (this will add more noise to your photos though), and Image Stabilization which helps for both the long range shots and low light situations. The 7MP (+) resolution will make this a great camera to print photos from. You can also manually focus the camera, giving you the ability to take some selected focus shots. The shutter speed ranges from 1/2000 of a second to a full minute of opening time to allow more light in. You can also find it for just a little more than the TZ3 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ) above. Good luck and happy shooting.
Andrew
Again, thank you for your input and suggestion. I have looked at the FZ8 and really thought about purchasing it. It sure sounds like a good starting place for me. This size camera is what I am more interested in, just because I think they will take better photos with more zoom and features. A happy medium?? I hope so! Thanks again. TT
Its not a problem at all. Good luck in your search. Also, please try to direct your questions to the site here at DCHQ ( digitalcamera-hq.com/ ). Happy shooting.
Andrew
I came across an interesting article today about how more mega pixels is not necessarily a good thing. According to Image Engineering ( 6mpixel.org/en/? ) – a company that does testing of digital cameras for photo magazines in Germany – the quality of digital pictures has steadily decreased since the state of the art was six megapixels back in 2004. And because they don’t have a “dog in this hunt,” they put forth a compelling argument for buying new digital cameras with less mega pixels and not more.
The argument is essentially this: CCD chips on point and shoot cameras a smaller and as such, fitting in more pixels causes them to lose light sensivity. Sure, there’s more data on the chip, but at higher ISOs, the chip can’t absorb the light data and what it ends up with is a picture that has more noise than image quality.
The camera defaults this way so when you download them to your computer, they don't have the same file name as before. If you want to change that setting so it does renumber, there are a couple ways to handle this. First, you can reset the entire camera to its original settings by going through the setup menu and selecting RESET. If you just want to reset the photo numbering, you have to format the internal memory. You can not have a memory card in the camera when you do this. You can find the full instructions on how to do this on page 109 of your camera's user manual. ( service.us.panasonic.com/OP... )
Andrew
dpreview.com/reviews/panaso... Larry
I own the Panasonic TZ3S, this is a point and shoot that is small enough to put in your pocket but has the quality of the higher end cameras. Of the 2 you are in question about I would have to tell you that the Panasonic is a phenomenal camera. It has a Leica lens and the glass is superior to the Fuji glass. As for the speed of the recovery, put them both together and try them side by side. Good Luck!!
You do have one more option, That would be to go to a DSLR camera. It would be comparable to the size and will give you far better results than either of the other 2. Nikon D40x with a lens kit would be what I would suggest. The price is a bit higher but the functionality and more importantly the recovery would be much quicker. This would also give you the option of changing lenses, this is more of a camera and would allow you room to grow!
I hope this helps you!! Good Luck and Happy New Year!!
I have had some great luck with the FZ8 and have been very happy with all aspects of the camera, down to build quality and legendary panasonic reliability. The noise can be avoided when using longer shutter speeds and keeping the ISO as low as possible. I am able to get 11x17 prints from the FZ8 that look great.
The recover time between shots is commendable on the FZ8, keeping mind the Fujis are not always the fastest of the bunch. If you pick up the FZ8, just get used to working with the ISO 100-200 range and the camera will provide you with a great tool to use for a long time.
This, of course, is what I would recommend without getting into an actual SLR. For that, its the Nikon D40 with VR lens for me.
SX100IS: has better picture quality and low-light shots than the FZ8 (sharper and less noise)
FZ8: has a better zoom, uses bateries, better performance when using flash.
Both have manual mode, witch is very important to me...my question finally comes to this:
Is the SX100IS image quality noticeably better than the FZ8?
The flash has an output adjustment in 1/3 ev stops which should allow for correction of the washouts.
The wall color changes will be corrected in white balance or white balance-fine tune. This will take some trial and error learning (and possibly some reading at Ken Rockwell.com about white balance).
Auto and ProgramAE modes always have weak spots and you are finding them. A little manual control usually fixes it nicely.
Best Wishes, Larry
Merry Christmas, Larry
Larry
Just to clarify, they are not really interchangeable. You can add conversion lenses with an adapter ( www2.panasonic.com/consumer... ). Good luck and happy shooting.
Andrew
Andrew
The Fuji S700 is a good camera, and is <$200. There aren't really many other cameras in the <$250 price range that will give you a good zoom, fast performance, decent low-light with long shutter speed, etc. You'll unfortunately want to avoid all Panasonics, as they all use the same noise reduction system. HOWEVER, if you plan on taking static night shots (non-moving), the Panasonic would be just fine... and with you asking for a long shutter speed, I'd guess that's what you'd be doing. The FZ18 is a great camera, but it's not in the $250 or less price range (it's $350, but has RAW mode...). I'd suggest staying with Canon or Fuji.
Penning in burst mode without a viewfinder is a little difficult, because usually the LCD blacks out during the process.
Going back to your FZ8... there's nothing wrong with capturing low-light pictures in RAW mode, and using JPEG for everything else. Besides, in low-light, you generally shouldn't be taking pictures quickly anyway.
-under $350
-takes wonderful pictures in low lighting (concerts, formals, etc.)
-SD memory card, no other kind of storage
-very fast start up time and able to take pictures immediately
-a long zoom (6x or more)
-image stabilization
-wide angle lens would be nice
-uses AA batteries (although that's NOT a necessity)
-be able to record movies with sound
-6 megapixels or more
-some manual controls so I can experiment
-size of body doesn't matter, probably no ultra-compact, prefer more "chunky" style, but really just looking for the best camera so if the best one is ultra-compact, then that's just fine
I have been looking at the models listed in my question. What one would be best considering my specifics??
Thank you in advance to everyone who can give me some recommendations. I appreciate your time to help me out! Have a wonderful day!
I would personally go with a camera with image stabilization because you need it to work well in low light situations. If it is going to be really dark, I would also recommend getting a monopod or tripod to stabilize the camera even more. If a camera has a higher ISO setting, that would also help in lower light situations. Of the cameras you have listed, I would choose the Panasonic FZ8 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ). Its longer optical zoom (12x) and ISO 3200 capabilities would fit best for your needs. The 7.2MP resolution will get you great photos up to 8x10 and even larger at the finest resolution settings. Good luck and happy shooting.
Andrew
The Fuji S6000fd ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ) drops you down to 6 megapixel resolution, while the Fuji S8000fd ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ) bumps you up to 8MP and boasts a 18x optical zoom both with ISO 3200 capabilities. This camera also has image stabilization. If it is in your budget, the Fuji S8000fd ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ) might be the way to go.
Andrew
Which of these would have the best noise/low light performance? On the FZ8, if I set the noise reduction to low, would it be any better? Can you set the NR to low in just PASM modes, or all modes?
The "noise" usually comes from an ISO setting that allows more light in. The higher the ISO setting, the more nose, but the better performance in low light. You can purchase software that will help reduce noise though. I use Paint Shop Pro ( paintshoppro.com ) for noise reduction, and I have found it works decently. Good luck and happy shooting.
Andrew
But if you want to connect your camera directly, you can head over to Panasonic's website to download the latest drivers, if available.
If you know how to compensate for these things, you should be okay.
But on the whole, if you want to change lenses, you are much better off with an SLR.
As for the clarity issues, nothing you can do about that.
dpreview.com/reviews/panaso... is the last page of a full review on this camera, and I have found over the years that the pros & cons that that reviewer lists are almost always dead-on. So that "con" list might give you an idea of possible drawbacks. The rest of the review may be very helpful, too!
Avoid the pricey Panasonic lenses.
FZ8K has a black body and FZ8S has a silver body. See <a href="reviews.cnet.com/digital-ca... site</a> for further information.
It also has in camera editing features such as cropping, sepia and black/white alerations, nite modes, super macro mode for REALLY close up shots, panoramic guides for shooting multiple shots to stitch into a panarama, even a mode for shooting documents.
I'm really enjoying it. If I had to complain, however, I have found the menu structure wanting and difficult to use on the fly. But other than that, it's a top notch camera.
If just point and shoot, I think you can get a prosumer like the Olympus or even the FZ8 and do just fine. But in sports, the flexibility that comes with a DSLR can come in handy. You can shop around and find better deals, sure.
I think in the end it may come down to this. Going down to a local camera store and holding them in your hand. Seeing how they fit, how the balance is, whether you like the ability to change lenses. You can do all the research you want, but until that camera is in your hand, all bets are off. You may surprise yourself.
You can find examples of ' Telephoto converter ' and ' Wide angle ' converter ' in <a href="cgi.ebay.com/Panasonic-Lumi... site</a>.
Based on Price and Quality :-
Best tele conversion lens: OLYMPUS TCON-17
Best wide angle lens: RAYNOX DCR-730
Best macro lens: RAYNOX DCR-150 or RAYNOX DCR-250
Get a card reader and insert your memory card to it. Plug the reader to the USB port of your computer.
If you use Windows 2000 or Win XP, the card reader will be recognized immediately and you can try to view the contents of the card. If they are there, just copy them to the computer.
If they are not there, then you have to do a photo-recovery which is a bit more troublesome but not that difficult really.
Photo-recovery software can be downloaded from the internet, some are free and some are demos.
I would try the free ones and following the online instructions will let you recover the pictures.
According to DCRP's very good review ( dcresource.com/reviews/pana... ) of the TZ3 (I assume that's what you mean when you say T3), "outdoor visibility was good at default settings, and very good if you turn on the Power LCD function." I wouldn't worry too much about the lack of an optical viewfinder. Though they are nice to have, LCD technology has come a long way and, on the plus side, they show you 100% of the frame, which is something most optical viewfinders can't pull off.
That said, the FZ8 is a very strong competitor for the TZ3 and if you have the money to spend/don't mind having a larger camera, it would be an equally great buy.
You can get a side-by-side comparison of the two cameras here ( dpreview.com/reviews/compar... ).
Hope this helps!
-Put camera in Playback mode (to review photos you've taken)
-Get to the Menu (not sure, honestly, how to do this; either push Menu/ Set or press and hold LCD Mode. One of the two should work).
-What you want is the menu that starts with Slide Show... the one that lets you choose how you want to view your photos. Further down that list you'll see Date Stamp, which is the option you want to turn on. You should be able to choose it for just one photo, or for all of them.
Let me know if that doesn't work. I'm basing it off a vague memory of the Panasonic functions. =)
Thank you, you were right about the description. But the problem is still how to set date stamp as a fixed setting. When I choose Data stamp I can select either single or multi (?), but in both cases the setting is not keept by the kamera and I'm also forced to add date stamp on each picture manually, and even that I cannot find out how to do for all pictures! But perhaps it is just the way Panasonic works, I'm used to Sony.
Best regards Annelise
Just bought new FZ8 today.....still pondering over same problem, Date stamp by default on all photos. What Brenda suggested was to print date stamp after photos are taken.
I too am used to a Nikon which stamps date by default.
Still probing into the manual to see if there is indeed a setting .....
best reg - Kamath/ India
There are many differences between the two. In essence, the FZ8 is a third generation descendant of the FZ3, which debuted back in 2004. Major differences:
1. Megapixels/sensor. The FZ3 offers 3MP to the FZ8's 7MP.
2. ISO range. The FZ3 offers a range of just ISO 80 to ISO 400, while the FZ8 offers ISO 100 to ISO 3200.
3. LCD size. The FZ3's LCD is 1.5" to the FZ8's higher resolution 2.5" screen.
In general, the FZ8 is a much improved camera. The FZ3's rating might be higher, but you have to remember that that rating is in context with its peers at the time it came out. Competition in this part of the digital camera market has gotten fiercer, with Sony and Canon dominating, so it's not surprising that the FZ8 is ranked a bit lower.
Hope this helps!
Doug
Paulie
Let me try to explain your Question a little better. set your top dial to SCN mode, press set menu and scroll down to High Sens. Then press set and it will automatically be set to 3200 Iso.
If you have your manual it's on page 67. hope this helps, rememmber once you set high sens. it is set to 3200 ISO but you won't see the 3200 ISO displayed but it is set.
Paulie
Thanks for any help!
I have the FZ7 which is almost identical,but the later FZ8 has a few more features.
There's not much that these camera's don't offer,but you need to read the manual to uncover all the functions.
Doug
I like Lumix FZ8 . it come for 12x zoom and 7.2 MegaPixel
and it has lithium battery can rechargeable
and the most important has great value
it around 300 dollar
we can try sony H5 and canon S3
I would like to enjoy in Pakistan with new camera!
sallam!
I have the earlier FZ7 which is a great travel camera,with the same Leica super zoom as the FZ8.
Highly recommended!!!
Doug
Fujifilm s700 (less than 250) (7mp 10x zoom)
Olympus sp-510 (225) (7mp 10x zoom)
yes, is it include sound!
you can check pansonic website to downloud the video!
I see it .
Enjoy with it!
however, the battery is rechargeable Lithium ion. Two sets of batteries and a battery charger will last you for quite some months,if not over a year.
The video option should include sound. But you can get better quality sound recording with a Sony / Olympus Micro tape recorder if you want to record special events to supplement the video clips.
The battery lasts for ages anyway before it needs recharging.
Doug
The FZ8 comes with these many preset scene modes:
Portrait
Soft Skin
Scenery
<b> Sports</b>
Night Portrait
Night Scenery
Panning
Food
Party
Candle
Fireworks
Starry Sky
Baby 1 & 2
Aerial photo
Snow
High Sensitivity
Beach
Sunset
Pet
So you won't have to worry about manually setting the camera to a faster shutter speed.
Hope this helps,
Mark
panasonic.co.uk/high-zoom/d... other camera in this range is the fz7 on offer at the moment
here is a photo taken by it
flickr.com/photos/jeffc2766...
I just got this camera the other day so I' just getting used to it! Did you take that picture with manual settings? or in the "sports" mode?
Thanks for your help!
the photo was not taken by me but by someone else
he used the 10 x zoom with no flash and sports mode
he also used the the one point H for the close up
i hope you enjoy your new camera
if you need any help just ask
Thanks so much for your reply, that helps. I bought the FZ8, and I'am taking it on vacation this next week. I might have some questions for you when I get home :)
Do you have either one of these cameras? (FZ7 or FZ8)
Thank you again!
Laura,
P.S. I'm going to a concert next week in a casino and I always have a tough time getting good shots. Wish me luck!!
i have the earlier model the fz3
have a good time at the concert
to get good photos at a concert
always set the white balance manualy at the concert
use the optical rather than the digital zoom
for more details
panasonic.co.jp/pavc/global...
the specifications and customer ratings are very similar for those two cameras. However, higher ISO sensitivity, lens thread, RAW file format and extended shutter speeds on both ends make the Panasonic more advanced camera than the Kodak.
Could you tell me a bit more of the differences. Thanks
It also looks better,and produces better prints!
Doug
Good Luck.
Doug
dpreview.com/reviews/olympu... check and replay me!
and i wait for us to see the link!
As for a comparison to the canon s3 is, I think the panasonic is an overall much better buy. The s3 is about a year old, looks far more complicated, and has a tiny, tiny lcd screen... If you have no trouble seeing microscopic print, or don't mind not reviewing how your picture turned out until you get to your home computer, you may want to consider the s3. Otherwise, I would go with the Panasonic which has less clutter on the buttons (which are large enough to actually see) and has a lcd screen you can actually use.
A final point, your pictures are only as good as how well you can use your camera. So if you are used to having all of the buttons in weird places (aka a canon buff), then you would probably be fine with the s3. If you are new to the superzoom advanced camera market, or haven't owned a canon, I would definitely go with the panasonic, which is much less intimidating and far easier to use.... Hope this helps.
... me too. I have a Canon A620 (fantastic cam!), and I had the same doubt. I investigated very much, saw many photos of both and bought the FZ8. The photos of S3 are very bad, colors washed without definition, those of the FZ8 are much better. The Pana's noise is sometimes a problem and the Venus III is always the bigger one. So shoot raw whenever possible. I am very happy with the purchase.
Canon: The lens mount suffered an ingress of dust (they SAY!). They wanted to fir a whole new lens assembly. Nuts to that!
Picture quality very good.
Panasonic: The pictures are really outstandingly good. But above 100ASA the noise is outstandingly TERRIBLE.
I shall NOT buy another Pan until they fux that.
Both. Were I forced to choose between them I'd go for Panasonic. BUT WILL THEY PLEASE LISTEN AND FIX THE NOISE
In film cameras I have had many Leicas, many Canons, Nikons etc. They all have some super lenses. Some lenses are no better than bottle ends. For example the a 35-70mm Nikkor was vitrually rubbish ahilst the 105mm Nikon lens is a SUPERB portrait lens as is the 90mm Leitz lens,
Now I have to buy another Digital to replace the Canon Catastrophe. I checked on the net and found a disturbingly high number of Canon S2s and S3s suffering from the mount misery where repair costs were too painful to bear. Though the lens quality was not anywhere near as good as the Leica I would have tolerated it because the film speed performance was better than Panasonicss.
My answer as always is to go for the fundamental qualities first "sine qua non". Here they are:
LENS performance Leitz is visually obviously ahead of all the digital lenses. (Why oh Why did they drop the f2.8 all through the zoom range -F10, F20. A magnificent achievement a 432mm with f2.8)
STABILITY The Panasonic anti- shake sytem really WORKS... so does the Canon by the way.
RESULTS FROM CCD Panasonic is wretched beyond ASA80. Raw is ok but for snapshots???
CLARITY OF CONTROLS I tend to use one or two set-ups. So do most pros. But it's nice not to have to ferret in those awful instruction manuals.
FEEL in HANDS Any Leica feels good, just right in fact. Some of the FZ's inherit that.
VIEWFINDER For STEADY shooting (that is for sharper photos) you should be able to brace the camera against your face. Some of the smaller Panasonics have NO finders. Grrr! It did give us anti-shake tho'.
You can get sample galleries as follows:
S3 IS:
dpreview.com/reviews/canons...
dpreview.com/reviews/panaso...
dpreview.com/reviews/sonyh2... galleries will give you a wide variety of shots from each camera, including some indoors shots.
Hope this helps!
dcresource also has great galleries, and they tend to shoot the same subjects every time, which helps for comparisons.
If you only print at smaller sizes you don't really need 6or7mp,or even higher resolution cameras,and any of the cameras you mention is perfectly capable of good indoor pics at smaller sizes.
But in reality, with only 20% of people actually printing digital pictures these days, you're point is well taken.
You might try using a Panasonic FZ8 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ). It comes with a Macro mode for close range photos. The image stabilization and high ISO capability will make it great for lower light photos in a warehouse or garage. Good luck and happy shooting.
Andrew
Good luck,
Julian
You might try the 7.2 megapixel Panasonic FZ8 ( digitalcamera-hq.com/digita... ). It has a "Macro Mode" for close up shots, and it will keep your shots stable with image stabilization.
Andrew
dpreview.com's in-depth review of the FZ8 has a full list ( dpreview.com/reviews/panaso... ) of timings, but the relevant ones here are as follows:
Half to Full-press Lag, LCD live view or EVF, image stabilization mode 1 (or off): ~0.07 sec
Half to Full-press Lag, LCD live view or EVF, image stabilization mode 2: ~0.12 sec
Full-press Lag, LCD live view, wide angle, High speed AF: ~0.7 sec
Hope this helps!
You may check the list in the following site
ultimate-electronics.co.uk/... the advertisement at this site
adorama.com/IPCDMCFZ30X1.html
The only very small difference is the battery serial number has the letter "R" in one of the lines.. just a slightly different serial number.! - but YES both batteries are practically the same.! - Ive used the FZ7 battery in my FZ8 as a backup, and there has been NO problems at all.
To get back to the starting point, the default settings, try the same trick that somebody does with his FZ7 :
" In the Setup Menu, there is an option to "RESET." That should give you your factory settings, except the clock and folder counter should remain unchanged. "
If this does not work for any reasons, I would search for the battery that powers the ram that keeps the memory in the camera, something like a button battery hidden somewhere. If there is one, just remove it and replace the same some ten seconds later may do the trick. No guaranty though because there isn't an FZ8 around for me to play with at the moment.
The FZ8 is a very new model and there are almost no customer reviews available. The S3IS has very high ratings so it would be "safer" to buy this one. However, the FZ8 has RAW file option that will allow you to correct your mistakes using computer and software. The S3IS has stereo audio added to video. The FZ8 has a little bit bigger LCD. Other technical specifications are all very similar.
Thanks a lot. What's now I'm considering is FZ8 and FZ50. Any comment?
Panasonic Lumix FZ8 Reviews
Panasonic Lumix FZ8 Reviews by Digital Camera-HQ Users
- 4.0 out of 5
Very good photo's, but not the greatest in low light. Photographs look as good to me as the Nikon D40 I recently purchased. Great camera for travel, and vacations. No extra bag or lenses to carry around. For daylight pictures it's an all in one packageall at the right price. I am still parcial to my Panasonic FZ8 digital.
- 5.0 out of 5
after months of researching ''bridge'' cameras vs. DSLRs, I decided to purchase the Panasonic Lumix FZ8. I was on every site imaginable. Reading every bit of info I could find. The reasons behind my purchase are as follows...
great zoom
great lens
great price
great battery
great features
user friendly
I was see-sawing between the FZ8, the FZ18 and a DSLR. well, because the FZ8 is no longer in production, I was able to purchase this unit for $100 LESS then when it was first available on the market ($260ish). Believe it or not, I purchased this camera BRAND NEW, sealed box, made in Japan for $160. I got it AND a 2 yr. extended warranty at Wal-mart. I cannot BELIEVE amazon is still listing it for over SEVEN hundred dollars! absolutely outrageous!
I figure I can use this unit as my long-zoom camera to take snaps of my kid's baseball games....the optical zoom equivilent on a DSLR would be mega bucks!!! then, with the money I have saved with this purchase I can look at getting a DSLR for more advanced shooting situations. (ie, basketball in a gymnasium)...
reducing the MPs on the FZ8 I can still get 18x zoom, if I want to. the FZ18 is still over $300...and I worried about the ''blue band'' issue...
Theres been MANY discussions regarding NOISE with this camera. Here is my advice.
contrast-high
sharpness-low
saturation-high
noise reduction-low
Modes: set everything to maximum 100 ISO
set the intelligent ISO mode to 400(it will not go beyond that)
always raise your flash when inside...it works very well. it will go off if it has to.... I have taken pics of rooms that are completely dark, no light whatsover just to test it...and the pictures come out decent...NOW, viewing these pics at 100% on your monitor will show noise. naturally.
set your pixels to 5 for just about everything. you can use the simple mode for numerous pics, it works well...and the camera will default to 7 mps.
i have taken tons of pics.. I REALLY like the auto-bracketing feature. this feature is a real asset. be sure to read up on it in the manual.
the macro mode is good...just be SURE the cameras lens is not extended....
re:batteries
so many people are put off by proprietory batteries. I really do not see the reason behind this. this camera, on a full charge, will take something like 350 shots. you can pick up another battery for something like $15. it only takes an HOUR to charge the thing....
AA batteries do not last NEARLY as long, not to mention they are HORRIBLE for the environment, cluttering up our landfills. just testing this camera, getting used to the settings, etc...i took something like 500 shots...do you know how many AAs that would have used?? very wasteful.
this camera is NOT an SLR. It will not take the same quality pics of your kid playing hoops in the gym. at least, not unless you are on the floor under the hoop....people constantly compare this camera's quality to SLRs, esp. when taking photos in poor light. The reviewers constantly say that in low-light conditions this camera struggles. I honestly can say that YES it isnt going to be DSLR quality, BUT, I do NOT view my pics at 100%, nor do I blow my pics up to 8x10s. normal, everyday 4x6 prints will look just fine...IF you use the flash when necessary, or in a well lit room, and keep the ISO to 100...I have even found that pics at ISO 200-250 using the simple mode are totally exceptable.
I really like this camera. It was a great purchase. It is all about educating yourself... just take the TIME to read the manual, play with the settings, have some patience, do some online research DPreview is one awesome site, read the forums on there......you will figure it out. it is very user friendly. If I can do it, anyone can. I am no genius.
hopefully this review and info helps someone!
-b
- 5.0 out of 5
I have used this camera as a back-up to the Olympus E-500 for a trip to Europe and for a couple of weddings. I'm still working on the adjustments for indoor shooting, however this camera has amazing color for macro! It completely out works the Olympus when it comes to getting the details. The brides' bouquets came out beautifully. The ablity to shoot in RAW is great when doing large landscapes. Also, the zoom is very impressive. Really no need for a larger lens. I was able to capture the details of the top of the tower of Pisa with no problem. This is an excellent camera with lots of play. Easy to take with you anywhere because of the size and weight.
- 5.0 out of 5
I knew I wanted (and needed) a camera with a viewfinder and a longer telephoto length than the 110 or so mm available on my little camera, so I researched and checked and researched some more and finally came down to this one.
For me it was the perfect (or as perfect as you can possilbly get) camera for me. The lens is super sharp! There are a lot of ways to "tweak" the camera for each individual user to get the best performance out of it. It's simple but has a plethora of available options when, and if, you need them.
The main complaint I saw in professional reviews about this camera concerned noise. I haven't noticed that yet in my own photos taken in any kind of light. So for me, at least, that isn't apparently an issue.
The viewfinder is excellent, giving you a 100% view of what will be on the frame. It's adjustable, so I don't need to juggle my glasses on and off while photographing—I just don't wear them. BUT it is still usable while wearing sunglasses; a definite plus!
- 4.0 out of 5
There are no bad cameras. There are cameras that are improperly exploited. Before evaluating advantages and disadvantages, let`s stop for a while and look back – what for we purchase that sort of equipment? The sphere of creativity of Panasonic FZ8 is report-and-art images in daylight, the images of transient moments of the stream of life, when on the one hand a photographer has no more than a minute to get ready his device, and on the other hand high criteria for the quality of the images are required.
Manufactures bundle Panasonic FZ8 with a battery of standard charge capacity, battery charger, cables for connecting camera to either PC or TVset (USB or «bell-wire» cables accordingly), a disc with driver software, a lens hood with an adapter, a strap and a lens cap on a string.
Read full text at http://digicamfriends.com/Panasonic_FZ8.htm
- 4.0 out of 5
After shooting 1000 pictures, I started loving FZ8. The one I used earlier was Canon A630. Zoom, IS and Full manual controls are the definite plus. But I still have a thought that I could have bought TZ3.
- 5.0 out of 5
I love my FZ8! A ton of features for the price, and it's lightweight and easy to use. Advanced features for veteran shutterbugs, yet simple to use for the newby. The zoom is incredible, and the photos are beautifu. You can't beat it for the price.
- 5.0 out of 5
I am a beginner to photography. I bought this camera with doing several reasearching and several comments of users. Also this camera matches my budget. Honestly this is wonderful camera. I am very very please with performance of this camera. I really love it. Outdoor picture quality is very best. Very easy to maneuver the FZ8 and photo quality is in very best.
- 5.0 out of 5
La compre hace tres meses y he sacado unas 1000 fotos, y estoy muy contento con la maquina, tiene un potente zoom. La recomiendo.
- 5.0 out of 5
This is a brilliant camera. The RAW mode is very useful. I've taken pictures of the night sky with star trails from a 60 sec exposure using Starry Sky mode. Excellent Optical Image Stabilization. The best camera I've ever owned!
Here's some after market Raynox lenses for the FZ8:
[URL]http://raynox.co.jp/english/dcr/egindex.htm[/URL]
- 5.0 out of 5
Out of several cameras that I own, this is an excellent camera, no questions about it !!! I will not botter to write a review (lose my time), if this camera wasn't worthit. So hopefully my review will help other customers to make a wise choise in getting a digital camera, without spending their time and money like I was !!! (its allright. I'm still happy)
I own several cameras in the past like Canon SD500,
Kodak CX7430, Casio EXZ 750, Samsung v700, sony dsc70, Kodak z612, I am left with only that ones that I like its pictures quality best, and that is Kodak CX7430, and Canon SD500, the other ones I give it present to friends and relatives. Those two camera that I have are excellent in pictures quality no question ask, however none of it has a fast shutter and frankly I missed lots of good (one time opportunity to get the shot). So I purchase me and try it out the Canon S3, Kodak Z612, Kodak z712, Samsung L74W, Sony DSC W90, Nikon S50, and beliveit or not I Return all of them back to the store regardless the restoking fee or not, I was just not happy either the pictures quality, flash power not strong enough, low light miserable, horrible noise, slow shutter, etc. I did some research on this one and after being satisfied with the Experts/Professionals Reviews, as well as the customers review I decide to try one back at Circuit City. After I try it out for about 10 days I simply was amazed with the picture quality, super fast shutter, very powerfull flash metering, optical image stabilizer, beautiful 2.5 screen, superb battery life, and excellent features, I finally decide to keep this one, I now been its owner for more thatn 3 months and stiil very happy specially after I just try a Sony H7, Sony T100, Canon S5, and a Fuji S700, from a friend of mine purcessing to tryit out and not been fully happy, he return all of it back to store, and decide to go with Panasonic FZ8 as well. Now that there are some reviews up there complaining aboutthe Noise on this camera, but honestly I did not find that to be a problem when you actually print it on and up to 8x10 at ISO 100 / 200, the only time you can actually be able to see the Noise is either you will print a 8x10 at ISO 400 or higher, or youdecide to zoom in on the TV screen at the highest Zoom/In/Level at ISO 400 or higher. As long as you will keep the ISO at the highest 200, I will assure that you will have an excellent pictures quality, the fastest camera up there, (excluding SLR camera), super image stabilizer, excellent movie quality, excellent features, excellent flash power, excellent battery life, easy and comfortable buttons on the camera for enyone to operate and understand its futures including its menu, very light when holding in hand, at a reasonable price compare with some other cameras that are so much expensive and its not even half of this camera in terms that I mentioned above.
YOU CAN TRY IT FOR YOUR SELF ALL OF THE CAMERAS OR YOU CAN TRUST ME WHEN I TELL YOU, THERE'S NONE UP THERE OTHER THEN PANASONIC FZ8, WHEN/IF YOU WANT EVERYTHING AND I MEAN EVERITHING THAT I MENTIONED ABOVE !!!!!!!!!!
Just a small exemple, in the previously months, I was able to take hundreeds of pictures of my childrens as well as other childrens, at their TaeKwonDo Academy when they were braking boards, with their feet or hands, and I have not miis one picture, I got all of it with the boards flying thru the air, pure and clear, something that all the other cameras mentioned above could not get me not even one single shot. With the Panasonic FZ8 I was ablle to take without missing any of all the action shots, amaizingly.
I strongly suggest that you try this camera if you are one of the picky customer like me, who likes to have it all the above mentioned. You will love it !!!
GOOD LACK !
- 5.0 out of 5
The camera is highly customizable, so if u go in and customize it to how u shoot it produces great photo's I have shot close to 1000 photos already and have been very happy with the results. When I found a test done on the camera it suggested turning the Noise Reduction (NR) to low, the saturation to low, and sharp to low and lastly the contrast to Standard (STD). When I did this it made a great improvement, also I used the (.) mode to equal out exposure and tested histogram on every shot and used the 2 second timer when I could to eliminate shaking when pressing the shutter button. I hope this helps and good shooting
- 5.0 out of 5
I bought the fz8 about a month ago and have been very satisfied with the purchase. Overall, it is extremely easy to use and for beginners (like me), easy to learn on. I considered the Canon s3 is, but after trying it out, strongly disliked the way it worked/felt. That is more of a personal preference thing—I don't like the way canon configures their cameras with tons of buttons that are scattered over the camera (I guess that's kind of their trademark though, and if I was used to it, probably wouldn't mind it as much as I do now). So, in conclusion, if you are looking for a good camera around 300 bucks that is easy to use and takes exceptional pictures (at least under 400 iso), I would buy it.
- 4.0 out of 5
hei,its the best a beginner as well as an advanced user can get.so i strongly recommend to buy this if you are peeping on to its class.
