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Sony Alpha A200
Editor's Review
Here's what we had to say about the A200 when it was released in Feb. 2008:
Sony's all new A200 dSLR is a less expensive counterpart to the flashy A700. Coming in at around half the price of the A700, you still get a lot of value out of this camera, chopping off a lot of cost without losing much in the way of quality.
Specifications
- 10.2 megapixels
- JPEG and RAW file formats
- Sony Alpha and Minolta A-type lenses
- CCD-Shift Sony Super SteadySHot image stabilization
- ISO 100-3200
- 2.7-inch LCD display
- Compact Flash memory storage
- Release Date: Feb 28, 2008
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Sony Alpha A200 Comments & Questions (write your own!)
the A100 has a depth of field preview and settings for High Key and Low Key which the others do not have. A200 has a little better image quality up to ISO 800. the A230 has the fewest number of features, but has lots of in camera help menus and a change from Compact Flash card to SD card. it is a little smaller in size, but the battery has been changed (worse battery performance?).
is it worth spending the money? in my opinion, NO. if you really want an upgrade, wait for the new cameras like the A500 or A550 being lauched in October. they will cost more than the A230, but you will receive more features for the money. BTW, i have an A200 with a bunch of used lenses. i was hopeful that Sony would upgrade the A200 but, sadly, i was very disappointed in the A230. of the new cameras, i am most interested in the A500. hope that is helpful.
The LCD on the A200 displays photos and shows the functions and menus available in the camera. Unfortunately, Live View is not available in the A200.
The A200 would work, sure. Course, Canon, IMHO, is better choice as is Nikon. But I hear good things about the Alpha line.
... getting back to your question. the A200 has an advantage in that it is compatable with the Minolta Maxxum lenses. you can save some $ buying them used. the A200 also has image stabilization built into the camera body, which might help reduce the camera shake. a good used lens for sports pictures would be a Minolta Maxxum 70-210 mm F4 (Beercan), but it is a heavy lens to hold up for a long time.
My recommendation would be to check with Sony for a refurbished unit. You may be able to get a similar deal and it'll have been looked over, cleaned, and serviced and still have a full warranty. Even if it's another $100, it's a safer bet, IMHO.
Is the camera defective?
I'm going to direct you to a similar question for your response - the XG-M has the same "M" lens mount discussed in this response:
digitalcamera-hq.com/digita...
I thought that in addition to viewfinder maybe there was to take pics via LCD screen as with compact digital cameras but it seems not! all I get is display of information, also wondered why they supply a viewfinder cover? my point being that if you cover up the viewfinder how do you frame the subject you wish to photograph?
Can someone please enlighten me as I am not sure if this is what DSLRs are supposed to do or if mine is faulty, i have tried to find reviews etc without luck but did see a video review from ? what digital camera which helped but did not explain my problem.
The cover for the viewfinder is there for a couple of reasons, as said before, it helps to protect the viewfinder; but more importantly it is used alongside a tripod (when the image has been framed and the eye is no longer covering the viewfinder)...by using the cover, no excess light can enter the system from behind and mess with the exposure.
Better to spend the extra coin on speed, rather than capacity.
You have a good lense already for taking photos indoors with the F2.8. The lense has a focal length of about 105 mm to 300 mm with the A200 sensor (conversion of 1.5X). If you want something with a longer focal length and is still portable, you could try a lense with a maximum of 300 mm which is the equivalent of a 450 mm focal length. But it might not be as fast as your F2.8. A lot of lenses are F3.5 or F4.0, so you'll have to shop around. The alternative is to resize and crop your photos on the computer using a program such Photoshop Elements 6 or 7. It might loose some pixels, but the image quality should be good enough for printing 4 x 6 prints.
I think your bigger factor with indoor basketball shots is getting enough light. Moving from 2.8 to 4.0 with the longer telephoto would be quite a drastic decrease in available light. Is there some way to "try before you buy"?
It's March Madness just now so this is a very pertinent issue. More comments are needed.
1, buy the 300 mm f/2.8 G. This is the kind of lens pro sports photographers use. It has a couple of limitations though. You can't zoom with it, it's very big and it's hugely expensive as it'll cost you around $6.000. That's more than 20 times a cheap tele zoom
2, buy a longer zoom. Sony offers three tele-zooms longer than your 70-200G. The 75-300 is a cheap tele zoom. The 70-300G is a higher quality lens , which is more expensive and a little bigger than the 75-300. The 70-400G has better IQ than the 75-300 and a longer range than both, but is bigger and more expensive than the others. The 18-250 offers little extra focal range over your current lens, and is much slower. The 14x zoom means compromises in IQ were inevitable. On the positive side, it has an incredible focal range, is quite affordable and not that big. They are all much slower lenses (5.6 at the tele end, 6.3 for the 18-250), so you have to quadruple the iso to use the same shutter speeds. None of these are as big or expensive as the 300mm.
3, crop. You obviously lose resolution, but when using higher iso detail is also lost. This is the cheapest, lowest noise option. Using a quarter of the picture means effectively doubling the focal length. The image then has 2.6 mp, which should be enough for small prints.
You can try using the Shutter Priority Mode. You would select a fast shutter speed such as 1/250 and the camera would set the lense opening automatically. You'll have to try different shutter speeds to see what works in the light conditions. You'll need to adjust the ISO to a higher number to get the exposure for the faster shutter speed. An ISO might be 400, 800, 1600 or even 3200. I'd try either 400 or 800 first to reduce graininess in the image. It will require trying different combinations of shutter speed and ISO to find the best exposure. And, remember to turn on the SuperSteady Shot to reduce any camera movement.
Here's also a great treatise ( robgoodlatte.com/2008/02/08... ) on basketball photography which may help. Among other tips, it advises to in general, shoot manual. Then, you’ll want to keep the aperture low—2.8 for cross-court telephoto shots, and between 2.8 and 4.0 for close-court shots. You also need to keep a fast shutter speed to freeze the action—at least 1/200, preferably 1/300 or faster. That'll also push you to higher ISOs for faster recording times.
I am interested in the A200 and would like to know if it is any good for animal/nature photography and in particular birds.
Thanks,
Luke.
MC ROKKAR PF and MC Tele ROKKOR QF.
Will they work with A200, A100 or any Sony
DSLR if I use them manually?
You probably will get it right if you manually focus first and stop down the aperture next to enable correct metering.
a try. I'd hate to lose the old lenses even though
they're 35 years old. Thanks again.
have 4 times as many points as bukit97 ;) Seriously though,
your suggestion is something to consider. Thanks.
And you'd be amazed at how much I've learned from fellow members like bukit ...
A lot of people ,without any points at all, can tell you the same answer.
It's a matter of spending some time browsing the net.
Like you, I still keep many of my old SLRs and lenses.
I would like to use the lenses once in a while, particularly the 500 mm Canon mirror telephoto lens and one or two fish eye lens.
However, what people, and the net, can't tell is whether it is worthwhile buying a new digital camera, such as A200 and going back to the old ways of taking pictures manually with 35 year old lenses.
Perhaps you can tell us the answer after you have tried it.
What you said makes perfectly good sense, and the loss of light
and clarity issues are factors I didn't consider. A packrat like me
just hates to depart with seemingly high quality beautiful lenses,
but I may do that if I'm not satisfied after trying the adapter technique.
Sorry about the lame attempt at humor concerning points in my
last comments, especially because your suggestions where both
serious and helpful.
And bukit 97,
Your point is well taken concerning buying a new digital camera and
then using the old manual ways of taking pictures. But after taking a few
thousand slides the old ways, it's hard to adapt to some of the so-called
advances in technology. Currently I use a digital camcorder that takes
3.1 MP stills, and much of the time I use it in manual mode setting the iris,
shutter, white balance and even focus manually. But after I've tried the
new DSLR using the manual lenses with adapter, I'll be happy to tell
you if it's all worthwhile. If not, I'll only be out the cost of an adapter.
In the meantime, thanks to you both.
My Minolta SRT 101 is ancient - 1970-ish - but it might work the same.
Facing the front of the camera, there's a little round lever on the body to
the upper right of the lens. Push the lever downward and rotate the lens
counterclockwise about 70 degrees until the red dot on the lens aligns
with the red dot on the body, then pull the lens out. I believe it's called a
bayonet mount.
Glad it worked. Now I have a question. If you -- or anyone -- takes 35mm
slides with your SLR film camera, where do you get your film? And who develops
slides now, or other 35mm film for that matter? I'm getting a Sony DSLR A200
or A350, but am keeping my old Minolta because lenses will fit the Sony digital
camera with an adaptor -- I'm told. My flat-bed scanner copies slides to the
computer with very high resolution and I'd like to compare pictures.
This camera does not take video. Most dSLR cameras do not come with this function. While some of the newer, basic dSLR's do, the more advanced ones do not. Good luck and happy shooting.
Andrew
The LCD is just for the playback of images and working with the menu items on the camera. It is not available for use as a viewfinder.
Andrew
fyi
what you are referring to is called Live View. Sony has two cameras in the Alpha series which have Live View: Alpha 300 and 350.
Even then, there might be further issues like how to keep the camera from auto shut off after a short period of in-activities.
It might be simpler if you buy a <a href="peppersprayinc.com/motion_d... detection camera </a> costing a fraction of A200 but does the job very well.
$700 max
it's important to keep in mind that Alpha refers to the Sony Product. there are Minolta Lenses that will fit the Alpha cameras but they have to be a compatable bayonet mount. for example, the Maxxum Lenses from Minolta are compatable with Sony Alpha. however, please be aware that lenses that you might purchase for the A200 may not be compatable with A900, should you want to make the upgrade.
FYI, there is no such thing as a Sony Minolta Lens! these are two sevperate companies. Minolta did not make their lenses with Sony in mind. there are a limited number of Minolta lense that are compatable with Sony, so be careful of making those assumptions!
My preference ... CANON first, Nikon second. (I think Canon's focus a tad faster).
We are talking an entry level DSLR here and I think Sony is on par or even better then Canon/Nikon. Don' forget Live View (A300 and A350) that a lot of P&S people will like (implemented MUCH better then in canon since it uses 2 mirrors instead of one so you get no delay what so ever and can be enabled with one click instead of going into menu each time)
Maybe they are not there for professionals (but I heard A900 24MP about to get released) but I think they are better camera then Canon and Nikon have to offer for amateurs.
If you are a professional then maybe - glass is more important then the body (even though Carl Zeiss glass is second behind Leica and considered better then Canon and Nikon glass).
In addition, Sony's are based on the Minolta platform with some noticable improvements. But if that foundation didn't work for two of the oldest camera companies in the biz (Konica being the other) ... well, I'm happy to stick with the better other two ....
Ass for Zeiss vs. Canon/Nikon lenses. Again, we'll have to agree to disagree on that. Especially when you look at the price sticker.
i recently began my search for purchasing my next digital camera. to make a long story short, i narrowed the search to a DSLR, at the the entry level. after, looking at various reviews, i decided on the Sony Alpha 200. my decision came down to optical stabilization, to noise levels and to lenses. in a nutshell, Alpha 200 has optical stabilization built into the camera body. so that means, if you were to purchase a lense, new or used, you just need to make sure it's has a Sony mount. by comparison, the D40 does not have stabilization, so it has to be manufactured into the lense. if you spend some time looking at Nikon Lenses, you'll see a huge selection of lenses. you'll have to take care in selecting the right lense for features like stabilization and auto focus. the auto focus has to be compatible with the D40. it's a similar situation with Canon, so make sure that the camera has the features you want and that the lenses are compatible. basically, i was on a budget and found a used lense at an affordable price, which has a Sony mount, so it was a no brain-er. i also checked reviews and saw that the noise levels are quite good up to ISO 800. but i am finding that the images are quite good even up to ISO 3200. i typically have 4 x 6 prints made, so it's really not an issue. hope you find that helpful.
Thanks again for the post
Hope Sony releases new firmware update soon. For the time being, I think it is safe to guess through Japanese menus.
Your news is precious. I am in Vietnam. Let me contact to them for upgrading.
Hope services in Vietnam could be the same as US.
So, I think that there is no language to change other than Japanese.
@James,
Sony Vietnam could not fulfill my request since they take care only the model sold in Vietnam. I have got acquainted with Japanese menu. Good news.
The question is there as follows: If there is an update for the firmware available (and will likely to be sometimes in the future) does the installing english version change the menu languages or not? what do you think? (i.e. is the menu a part of the firmware in your opinion). They always make firmware available if it is newer, updated version.
Toan,
but you were right, the menu is quite simple and most of the functions have their own controls on the body, so it is worth sparing couple hundred bucks less in japan :)
I contacted canadian sony support and fortunately and unfortunately, i talked to a person that knows the stuff. She explained that the cameras made in japan for japanese are different (they have different electronics inside) so changing the language means changing the 'chipset' not just firmware. sony 'international' warranty also means different things - usually even if you are in Hanoi, you have to call Tokyo and send the camera there to fix it. It may cause problems.
I will buy mine for more, but without problems, i suppose.
Thanks a lot for your information. My curiosity now is clear. Even if it is the same product name, Sony sells the local model to Japan only and international model at the others.
I am not so sure about the difference b/w local (Japanese) model and international one. I would call the local (Japanese) model is for patient users only :-).
Good luck for your new model. May I suggest you to aim with Carl Zeis lens? You would spend more but the quality is good.
@ James,
You are right for the idea of risk when I update the firmware. Maybe tech gurus would like to do it but normal users learn how to accept it. It is easier to remember some Japanese character now.
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We have two model of alpha 350 camera in Japan. One is a Japanese
domestic model and the another is an overseas model.
Our domestic model alpha 350 can display only Japanese menu and the
warranty is valid only in Japan for one year (the warranty is not
valid in overseas).
However, Sony Overseas Model alpha 350 has has English (multilingual)
LCD display (cannot display in Japanese). It is covered by world wide
warranty valid in the 46 countries within one year from the date of
purchase.
Sony Overseas Model can be purchased through authorized Sony Tourist
shops. Please refer to the following URL. Hope it will be helpful
for you.
< Sony Overseas Models DSLR-A350K(JE) >
ecat.sony.co.jp/tourist/DSL... Shop List >
sony.jp/products/overseas/c... of alpha 350 (Japanese domestic model and overseas model)
correspond to the power supply and the voltage all over the world, but
please prepare the conversion plug of the outlet depending on an area.
Thank you for your understanding. Your continual attention to Sony
products would be highly appreciated.
Sincerely yours,
Sony Customer Service(Japan) Inc.,
SCSJ
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and i checked prices - english 'oveseas' version is 30 kY more expensive. They can take care about themselves ;)
And Toan: sure, do not try to installl english firmware because you might not be able to turn it on again.
trustedreviews.com/digital-... anyone comment? I need to upgrade my old 5D soon for a trip, it finally broke completely ;/
I'm debating between "jumping ship" completely to go to Nikon...or to possibly stick it out with Sony. I Don't care for raw, purely a jpeg shooter.
Insight appreciated.
With a 10.2 MP resolution, you should get very crips photos with this camera. Remember, as you push your ISO setting higher, the grainier the photos you'll get. It will perform better in lower lighted situations at higher ISO's though.
Jumping to a Nikon would work too. If you're interested in a dSLR, the Nikon and Canon brands are terrific. Lenses can get expensive though.
Andrew
A fair amount of purple fringing on the 75-300 zoom. I recently bought a 35-135 Sigma and the difference is very noticable.
Noise is a minor issue with the A200 below ISO 800.
i am in the same situation as you are: i have little desire to shoot in RAW. i purchased the Alpha 200 and have been playing around with it the last couple of weeks. i have shot everything in JPEG, and have shot a lot of test shots in available low light. there is some noise in the higher ISO range, but it shouldn't be a problem for making 4 X 6 prints. if noise is concern, you can purchase a download called Noise Ninja. they offer a version specifically for JPEG at a reasonable price. i have used it on the test shots and it works really well. in addition, i have found that the 200 has good white balance on auto - you don't really need to use a custom WB for indoors. it has a lot of good features, so it's very versatile. and it is a budget, entry level DSLR. the kit lense is ok, but you might want to add to that.
Sony Alpha A200 Reviews
Sony Alpha A200 Reviews by Digital Camera-HQ Users
- 5.0 out of 5
Used to have a Nikon D40. Sold that & started missing having a DSLR so bought A200. Only had it on auto so far but very pleased with photos even with the standard kit lens 18-70.
The high tech. review sites say this cam prob. has the same sensor as the Nikon D60. Which means same sensor as D80 &
D200. With the right lens the A200 is as good as any of the 10mp cameras made by Canon Nikon etc.
- 5.0 out of 5
Love it! Finally got away from point and click. Great for beginners simple dials, but still has options to be creative. Only drawback is not viewing picture in screen. Battery life is very long. Lasts for hours!
- 4.0 out of 5
User friendly for beginner, solid result, affordable !!!
- 4.0 out of 5
i've owned and used film SLRs in the past but this is my first DSLR. typically, my photography involves room light (low light) , some sports, some nature and as little use of flash as possible. during my search for a suitable camera, i found myself trying the Olympus 410 and the Sony A200. obviously, budget was a factor in buying a camera. i also wanted a good lens, but found that both Canon and Nikon were totally confusing in trying to match up used lenses with models and with stablization,... totally frustrating. in the end the Sony A200 was my choice. The camera is fairly small, the menus and buttons are easily to use and understand, and the viewfinder is fairly large. the A200 also received good reviews and an award for budget category—for value for money, white balance settings, useable ISO up to 800 with noise reductions, built in stablization and for it's battery life. it's also compatible with some used lenses ... again a buget concern. i picked up two used Sigma lenses, 28-300mm F3.5-6.3 and 28-105mm F2.8-4. i don't really have any issues with this camera: i didn't rate it is as perfect because it is a budget camera afterall and i didn't want anyone to think it could compete with the top of the line cameras. So am i happy with my decision? Definately.
- 5.0 out of 5
Walked into the local camera store, frustrated by my P-A-S camera's inability to handle normal life, much less anything approaching activity. I have a 1st generation Minolta Maxxum 7000 with 2 nice lenses, and I thought digital had rendered it useless. I had pretty much decided on the Nikon D40, but the salesman brought out a Pentax and Sony that were comparable to the D40. First thing I noticed was the higher (10.2 vs 6.1) MP on the Alpha 200. Like some others I already had a comfortable feeling with the Sony name, and with it's ease of use features the D40 was losing ground. But when I mentioned the old Minolta the salesman did the absolute right thing for me. He was impartial until he found out I had Minolta lenses already, and he sold me on the value of the Sony and the viability of my old (1985-ish) lenses. So I bought the camera and set off to capture my daughter's volleyball action. This is the part where I say my P-A-S camera was a joke. Even with no flash inside of the adequately lit gym I could zoom in and take crystal clear photos just by changing to the sports setting on the camera. I spent hours taking hundreds of photos( money on film) learning how to use the Maxxum 7000, and I learned how to get the most out of that camera. Immagine doing the same thing with the Alpha 200 and simply hitting delete until you have it figured out. I have taken about 100 photos in the standard settings and could be happy for the rest of my life right there. 500.00 is only a little more than some P-A-S cameras that will never come close to the Sony 200. Even for the rank amature or parent looking for a camera to capture memories, with this camera memories are in the bag!
- 5.0 out of 5
Got this as a xmas gift ! I absolutely love it. It takes great winter pics.....wildlife....and nightime....I am having a blast experimenting with it! Learn new things every day,
- 5.0 out of 5
I love this camera, it's as close to point an shoot as a camera gets.
- 5.0 out of 5
As an introduction for me into the world of DSLR, the Sony Alpha has been everything I could want and had expected. It handles perfectly with an easy to use layout of external controls; the system menu lives up to my expectations of Sony and works smoothly and flawlessly. And above all, the picture quality is fualtless-the supplied kit lens has had some bad reviews but there is absolutely nothing to complain about and the camera is perfectly capable of a number of different, demanding tasks-I have used it for a lot of landscape photography, selling a number of the pictures, and also for a wedding, in which nothing went wrong and I made a fair bit of money from. I will definatley be sticking with Sony!
